Bayh has serious netroots support

Greetings fellow bloggers,
  As you have known since I resumed my blogging in November 2004 that I am an American for Bayh.

 A few weeks ago, I posted the link to the poll at Blogging for Bayh, facebook, myspace, etc.--and was accused of poll-stuffing, which I feel was a wrongful accusation.

Anyway, Bayh was running fourth in Round 11 last time I checked.

You might recall that in the previous straw poll, Senator Bayh was running in second until Chris Bowers accused us Bayh supporters of poll-stuffing--and his belief that Bayh did not have serious support.  However, this poll validates that Senator Evan Bayh has support among the netroots--and this was after former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner pulled out of the race.

In the newest, late night straw poll, Bayh is running in fourth place in round 11 as of the last time I checked.

The netroots shouldn't just be defined as MyDD or Daily KOS readers as candidates have large support from sites outside of these two major blogs. For example, Senator Bayh has online support through Facebook, MySpace, Gather, and other social-networking websites and blogs..

Tags: 2008, Evan Bayh (all tags)



From 2 a.m. to 7 a.m. Eastern, Evan Bayh was... 8th place, with one more vote (6) than Mike Gravel (5). He was trailing such notables as Bill Richardson (12) Hillary Clinton (14) and Not Sure (21).

by MeanBoneII 2006-11-28 12:36PM | 0 recs
BTW, I have no doubt that Bayh does have his fans.

It seems that, as you suggest, they don't hang out at MyDD.

by MeanBoneII 2006-11-28 12:41PM | 0 recs
Perhaps They Hang Out At Redstate

Or Free Republic.

by Paul Rosenberg 2006-11-28 02:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Bayh has serious netroots support

I support Bayh -- I support him jumping in a lake.

by hoose 2006-11-28 12:40PM | 0 recs
Well, His Support Obviously Lacks A Sense of Humor

So, I guess, in that sense, it's serious.

by Paul Rosenberg 2006-11-28 02:00PM | 0 recs

Never heard of him.

by Michael Bersin 2006-11-28 04:16PM | 0 recs
Jeez, the hostility

Yeah, he's a conservative type of Democrat, but I don't think his main fans are at Redstate or he should jump in a lake.

Guy worked hard to get three Democrats elected in Indiana.  And yes, there was a political benefit for him doing so, but the same could be said about Hillary and she didn't work nearly as hard to get Democrats elected in NY.  

by bosdcla14 2006-11-28 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Jeez, the hostility

Hey, I was gonna say I support him "playing in traffic," but I thought that was too harsh.

He wants to privatize social security, expand the use of the death penalty, voted to reautorize the PATRIOT Act, and is spotty on free trade and abortion rights.  

I grew up in Indiana, and know how backwards it is ( [1], [2]).  And I understand that Democrats there have to do weird stuff.  But if, Nationally, we can't get a better nominee that Bayh, we should jump in lakes.

by hoose 2006-11-28 05:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Jeez, the hostility 5/03/bayh-private-accounts-may-be-way-to -go.html

this link says he doesnt support messing with social security, unless i read it wrong

by kydem 2006-11-28 06:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Jeez, the hostility

I went back and did some more reading here: s/week_2005_01_02.php and a couple of other places.  The consensus is that he's for private accounts and keeping SS how it is.

I don't see how that makes sense from an ideological point of view.  It feels like someone saying he's for school vouchers but doesn't want to take anything away from public schools.

But I don't claim any particular insight into what he's thinking...

by hoose 2006-11-28 08:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Jeez, the hostility mispelled "Inherited his money and position hard". Hope that helps!

by ElitistJohn 2006-11-29 04:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Mydd & Kos is Not a Sole Gauge

I agree with you 100% Kydem.

I was a Clarkie in 2004. I have not made up my mind yet for 2008. But anyone who thinks that Evan Bayh has weak support among the netroots should take off their blinders.

Yes, that may be true in progressive leaning communities like Mydd & Kos. But as proven in 2004, there is a whole other world of netroot Democrats outside these two sites.

Not to mention, just like 2004, the sentiments of Millions of Dem voters, about 90% of registered Democrats who do not participate in online political banter. These Off-Line Rank & File Democrats actually voted for a DIFFERENT candidate than the one who was favored in these two sites.

The overall netroots strength of any candidate cannot be gauged based solely on Mydd and Kos.

2004 was a perfect example of that. If you recall, the Top 3 Finishers in the 2004 Democratic Primary, John Kerry, John Edwards & Wesley Clark had VERY WEAK support among Mydd & Kos members.

Mydd & Kos was DEAN Country in 2004. There was Overwhelming, Massive support for Dean in these two sites.
If the official primary results were based on Kos & Mydd members, Gov. Howard Dean would have been the Democratic nominee.

In fact, Any First Time visitor to Mydd & Kos back then would immediately Conclude that Howard Dean was on his way to a Landslide National Democratic Primary victory-based on the massive Deanics in Mydd & Kos. That's how lopsided the support was for Dean.

Of course, the actual results in the actual voting were very different.

The Top 3 finishers were Kerry, Edwards, & Clark. All had strong netroots support outside of the two progressive sites.

As a Wes Clark supporter in 2004, we have a very strong netroots presence. And since I seriously considered John Edwards, I know for a fact that Edwards also had strong netroots support.

Of course, Kerry also had a very strong netroots presence.

All these supporters were OUTSIDE the RADAR of the normal Mydd & Kos Surveys.

Majority of Clark netroot supporters back then were not "regulars" at Mydd & Kos.

And the same thing is now happening to Evan Bayh.

The candidate preferences of people here are Not necessarily the same as the majority of Democrats.

I think anyone who would base their conclusion about Evan Bayh's supposed weak showing or any candidate for that matter in Mydd & Kos surveys is in for a Big Surprise as we get closer to 2008.

by labanman 2006-11-28 08:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Will Bayh supporters engage here


Question for you.

As we get closer to '08, do you see Bayh supporters eventually joining & being more active in sites like Mydd & Kos?

With No unifying " ala Howard Dean" progressive netroots candidate, I can already see major factions within Mydd & Kos by the middle of 2007.

I thought Russ Feingold had a tremendous opportunity to be a unifying candidate among progressives in these two sites. But with him & Warner gone, I think we are going to see Blocks of supporters splitting into their respective candidates.

Assuming these people do run, I can already see big enough groups of John Edward's faction, the Wes Clark faction, the Obama faction, in Mydd & Kos.

I assume people like Hillary Clinton, Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson will also  have their supporters making their presence felt by 2007 in these sites.

by labanman 2006-11-28 08:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Will Bayh supporters engage here

I'm sure other folks that are Bayhpartisan have joined, they just don't comment that much

by kydem 2006-11-29 05:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Will Bayh supporters engage here

Yeah...that silver spoon they were born with, like their candidate really gets in the way of commenting. Garbles the speech.

by ElitistJohn 2006-11-29 04:38PM | 0 recs
Sure, why not?

In this heap, Bayh deserves a chance.  He was a very effective governor.  Certainly he has the package to run for President.

However, I don't think anyone who supported the war has a chance in hell come 2008.

Ask McCain.

by jcjcjc 2006-11-28 10:58PM | 0 recs
Would I vote for him?


But with trepidation.  His speeches remind me of some arcane debate about the value of pi.

Must be his heritage.  :)

by The lurking ecologist 2006-11-29 01:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Bayh has serious netroots support

First of all I think the Poll you posted is pointless.  Of course I would vote for him if he was the nominee, i'm a Democrat.  Anyway I have looked at Bayh and think he is appealing on the fact that he's electable.  He's popular enough in the deep red state of Indiana to win it and I bet Indiana's neighbor Ohio would like him better than they did Kerry.  But I don't really see anything else attractive about him and of course I have a big problem with his support for the Iraq War.  I don't think I can get behind anyone that supported it.

by blueryan 2006-11-29 01:51PM | 0 recs


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