Bush looked into Putin's soul

Remember these words, when Bush "looked into Putin's soul", and liked what he saw?

"This was a very good meeting. And I look forward to my next meeting with President Putin in July. I very much enjoyed our time together. He's an honest, straightforward man who loves his country. He loves his family. We share a lot of values. I view him as a remarkable leader. I believe his leadership will serve Russia well. Russia and America have the opportunity to accomplish much together; we should seize it. And today, we have begun. . . . I will answer the question. I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. And I appreciated so very much the frank dialogue. . . . We share our love for our families. We've got common interests. And from that basis we will seize the moment to make a difference in the world. That's why he ran for the presidency, and it's why I ran for the presidency."

George W. Bush, 6/16/01
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/ 2001/06/20010618.html

How wrong was Bush?

"Under Soviet dictator Josef Stalin, people who fraternized with foreigners or criticized the Kremlin were "enemies of the people" and sent to the gulag. Now there's new legislation backed by Vladimir Putin's government that human rights activists say could throw Russia back to the days of the Great Terror.  The legislation, outspoken government critic and rights activist Lev Ponomaryov charged Wednesday, creates "a base for a totalitarian state." . . . The bill would add non-governmental organizations based anywhere in the world that have an office in Russia to the list of banned recipients of state secrets. The government has repeatedly accused foreign spy agencies of using NGOs as a cover to foment dissent. . . . Under current treason statutes, some NGOs are not considered "foreign organizations," meaning a person who passes a state secret to an NGO might not be considered a traitor.  Some of Russia's most prominent right activists, including Moscow Helsinki Group head Lyudmila Alexeyeva and Civic Assistance director Svetlana Gannushkina, said the bill in fact gives authorities the power to prosecute anyone deemed to have "harmed the security of the Russian Federation." It is "legislation in the spirit of Stalin and Hitler," the activists said in a joint statement -- legislation that "returns the Russian justice to the times of 1920-1950s." . . . The legislation expands the definition of treason to include damaging Russia's "constitutional order," and "sovereignty or territorial integrity." The activists believe each proposed addition cynically targets potential threats to the Kremlin, shattering what remains of civil society in Russia.  Activists said expanding the term "constitutional order," would effectively outlaw opposition protests. "Territorial integrity" would forbid anyone from calling for independence or perhaps autonomy, an issue of particular concern in the volatile North Caucasus where Chechnya is located.  The bill broadening the definition of state treason is the latest in a series of measures taken since Putin's rise to the presidency in 2000 that have systematically rolled back Russia's post-Soviet political freedoms.  Rights group say that rollback has shown no signs of stopping since Putin, a former director of the KGB's main successor agency, became prime minister and his protege, Dmitry Medvedev, assumed the presidency."
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ wire/sns-ap-eu-russia-treason-law,0,6488 592.story

The next time a former president's recovering alcoholic, ex-cocaine addict son needs a job, let's give him a slot on "Celebrity Rehab", not two terms as president.


Tags: George W. Bush, Vladimir Putin (all tags)



Re: Bush looked into Putin's soul

I don't care about Bush's substance abuse (assuming it's in the past).  I do care about his competence...in that it's completely lacking.

by freedom78 2008-12-18 10:14AM | 0 recs
Having America being hated

as much as to get a shoe thrown at its leader is what has helped allow Putin to amass so much power and leverage in the region. If Putin had his way, the USSR would still exist. Now they're also sending ships to Cuba, for the first time since the Cold War. I wonder if the Russians will stand for this new treason bill.

by Lakrosse 2008-12-18 10:25AM | 0 recs
Er what?

Isn't this diary like seven years past its relevancy?

Are you just trying to establish some sort of cred beyond your ridiculous anti-left reactionary rantings?

by Dracomicron 2008-12-18 10:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Er what?

I do believe Draco you have hit the nail on the head. Too bad some here still believe he'r legit.

by venician 2008-12-18 10:52AM | 0 recs
I don't know who that would be

I can't imagine someone seeing any sequence of KNM's body of work as anything other than inflammatory trolling.

Anyways, Bush bashing at this point is pretty weak.  Even conservatives hate the guy.

by Dracomicron 2008-12-18 10:59AM | 0 recs
You don't think the laws passed TODAY
in Russia are relevant?
I'm real sorry this isn't another navel gazing "who's throwing who under the bus" diary, which you seem to prefer.  
I guess that's way more important than what's going on in Russia.  Sorry for the interruption!
by kosnomore 2008-12-18 12:10PM | 0 recs
If that were the focus of your diary...

...then you did a really poor job of explaining it.  The Wall o' Text probably didn't help.

Your diary was about criticizing Bush's blindness and incompetance; the Putin stuff was secondary, or else you would've put it in the first paragraph or the title.

This is elementary journalism.  Did you get your degree from Liberty University or something?

I mean, I appreciate that you're trying to broaden your scope a little, and that I can see how Bush bashing is low-hanging fruit that you might be able to establish some Democratic credibility with, but I gotta tell you: Bob Sackamento has bashed Bush quite a lot, but if one day he started pushing the tripe you shovel as legitimate diaries, we'd be pretty skeptical of him, too.

by Dracomicron 2008-12-18 12:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Bush looked into Putin's soul

Kind of ironic that Bush starts off his presidency looking into one guy's soul, and finishes it looking at some other guy's sole.

by Steve M 2008-12-18 10:43AM | 0 recs

Nice one.

by Dracomicron 2008-12-18 10:45AM | 0 recs
THAT is eminently sig-worthy

Well played sir!

by Neef 2008-12-18 11:44AM | 0 recs
Ouch - -

that's worse than me saying don't make jokes about that / defend the institution of the presidency, because soon the shoe will be on the other foot.

by kosnomore 2008-12-18 12:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Bush looked into Putin's soul

Wow.  Even racist Republicans are bashing Bush now.  Awesome.

Off-topic, but do you ever plan on re-releasing all that hateful bullshit that you posted during the election and then subsequently deleted?  You could release a coffee table book all about Osama Bin Lyin' and his scary Muslim family.  It's a niche market, but it's just racist enough that you could probably get a plug or two from Michael Savage.  

Mull it over, coward.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-12-18 11:42AM | 0 recs
I love when anonymous posters

call others coward.

by kosnomore 2008-12-18 12:18PM | 0 recs

Sometimes they're accurate.

Just because someone is anonymous, doesn't mean they're hiding.

by Dracomicron 2008-12-18 12:26PM | 0 recs
"Just because someone is anonymous
doesn't mean they're hiding".
by kosnomore 2008-12-18 12:49PM | 0 recs
Re: I love when anonymous posters

And I love it when people spend months writing fear-mongering, racist garbage on their blog, then delete it all and try to recreate themselves as some type of rational moderate that is open to discussion.

Sorry, when you only referred to our new President as "B. Hussein", "Osama bin Lyin'", and constantly claimed that he is/was a secret Muslim and that McCain/Palin were the best choice for the United States... you lost all credibility.

Don't get me wrong here.  I totally understand why you would want to delete that racist shit that you posted.  What I don't understand is why anyone would write that hateful bile to begin with.

Regardless, anyone that has the nerve to write that drivel and then try to pretend it doesn't exist IS a coward.  Have the balls to back up what you wrote, don't shove it under the carpet and try to point to the shiny thing in the corner.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-12-18 12:34PM | 0 recs
You cheapen the fight against racism

when you define racism as "any stuff I don't approve of".  None of the examples you cite are examples of racism, just stuff you don't approve of.  Frankly, the excessive use of that adjective to shut down criticism and discussion is what turned me off.  Making fun of his name in a political campaign?  Questioning the honesty of discussions of past affiliations?  You don't like it, but its not racist.  

by kosnomore 2008-12-18 12:54PM | 0 recs
Easy way to find out.

Did you do the same stuff to any white folks?

by Dracomicron 2008-12-18 12:58PM | 0 recs
Avtually we always caled Sen. Connie Mack

by his given name - - Cornelius McGillicuddy

by kosnomore 2008-12-19 03:57AM | 0 recs
Re: You cheapen the fight against racism

Yeah, because I'm sure you wouldn't dream of invoking names like Hussein and Osama in order to try and paint Obama as the scary brown man.  If your "jokes" were meant only to foster a little harmless discussion, why are you going back and scrubbing all of your inflammatory posts?  Why the attempt to hide your past if you're truly here for honest discussion?

That's a rhetorical question of course.. I already know the answer.  You're a dishonest coward.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-12-18 01:16PM | 0 recs
So you say making fun of his name is racist?
And, again, if I'm a coward and you're brave . . . what's your real name?  occupation?  location?
by kosnomore 2008-12-19 03:59AM | 0 recs


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