Who's Electable Now?

When "electability" is a candidate's last desperate argument to superdelegates that they should overrule pledged delegates and overturn the popular vote, news like this has to be a stake in the heart.

Update: I hold the very notion of "electability" in contempt since it amounts to nothing more than guessing what other voters will do -- like guessing which stock will outperform others.

The only valid reasons for choosing whom to support (in my book) are records and proposals. Everything else is subjective and wide open to lies and manipulation.

But when "electability" is your last trump card, and 59% say you ain't got it, what's left but to trudge on without purpose?

Tags: clinton, countdown, Electable, Gallup Poll, obama, Olbermann (all tags)

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30 Comments

Re: Who's Electable Now?

To answer the diary title, BOTH our candidates are electable. But it'd be nice if some folks here finally dropped the hysterical predictions of doooooom if he's nominated.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-03 11:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

or the threats if she gets it

by zerosumgame 2008-04-03 12:19PM | 0 recs
and McCain this am talked

about "fixing" SS and Medicare.  Calling Dr. Kervorkian.

by Xanthe 2008-04-03 01:45PM | 0 recs
Re: and McCain this am talked

I really think he is going bonkers at this point...

by zerosumgame 2008-04-03 05:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

or the threats if he gets it.

by JenKinFLA 2008-04-03 04:02PM | 0 recs
JGFC is right

Especially against W's third term, though Johnny Mac is doing a deceptively decent job of separating himself from Bush his policies are the exact same.

by Student Guy 2008-04-03 11:24AM | 0 recs
It's an illusion that must be maintained

to keep donors and the media in check.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-03 11:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

Lets see.  KO demands that HRC take responsibilty for Ferraro.  But when the Rev Wright story comes out does he call out BO.  NOOOOO he lets BO on his show and say how sorry he is that Rev Wright was treated sooo badly.

Is KO par tof the BO campign.  YES.

david

by giusd 2008-04-03 11:25AM | 0 recs
What's wrong with Rev. Wright?

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-03 11:28AM | 0 recs
Re: What's wrong with Rev. Wright?

Don't start - I dont' wanna hear about him anymore.  No one seems to care anyway...

by jarhead5536 2008-04-03 11:36AM | 0 recs
Re: What's wrong with Rev. Wright?

I wanna hear more about how talking about racism and imperialism is bad. It's funny.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-03 11:42AM | 0 recs
Re: What's wrong with Rev. Wright?

Talking about racism and imperialism aren't bad. Spreading malicious lies (the us created the AIDS virus to kill blacks) and calling Italians "Garlic noses" are bad. There's simply no room for shite like that in the public discourse.

by Mayor McCheese 2008-04-03 02:05PM | 0 recs
Re: What's wrong with Rev. Wright?

Using racism, or sexism for that matter, of some voters as a reason to declare a candidate "unelectable" is bad.

I'm just glad we haven't been seeing any of that from Democrats.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-03 02:10PM | 0 recs
BTW, why are you ignoring the polls

KO was talking about?

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-03 11:28AM | 0 recs
You know why?

   B/c Barack Obama HAS taken responsibility for Wright. He's called him out on his ridiculous comments...which Clinton did not do to Ferraro. That's the difference. Obama takes responsibility, while Clinton hides.
by southernman 2008-04-03 11:34AM | 0 recs
Re: You know why?

No, he did not take responsibility, he made excuses, something he's always doing.

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-03 12:39PM | 0 recs
He said he condemned the remarks

   which Hillary refused to do with Ferraro. What do you mean make excuses?
by southernman 2008-04-03 12:52PM | 0 recs
Stop with the whining

Everyday it's nothing but whining about media bias. Do you only have victim cards left in your deck??

by lion king 2008-04-03 11:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Stop with the whining

we deal from thet deck is in front of us and currently when it's the media bias deck.  If you toss another deck on the table, we'll deal with that when it comes time to shuffle.  

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-03 12:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop with the whining

Sorry but the game is already over. You LOST!

by lion king 2008-04-03 12:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop with the whining

Given there are still votes to count, that is premature.

by JenKinFLA 2008-04-03 04:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

Both are electable in different ways, I'm pretty sure Quinnipac's recent polls putting Obama at a distinct disadvantage vis a vis Hillary in Ohio Floria and Pennsylvania doesn't help his case, though.

And this is a valid argument, if you believe the other guy can't get elected, then you believe so. What's wrong with that? This is a contest and she's making her case. You think everything she's saying, the Republicans don't already have? They'll come at him in full force in August if he's the nominee regardless of what Hillary says.

So give me a giant break; I'm sick of how much coddling the Obama campaign has had. Can't criticize him unless it passes a pre-approved non-racist police panel made up entirely of Obama supporters!

by VAAlex 2008-04-03 11:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

Both Obama and Hillary are favored to win the Kerry States plus NM and IA- states Gore carried in 2000 but went of for Bush in 2004.
264 ev.

The states Obama and Clinton need to win.

Ohio
Missouri
Nevada
Colorado
Virginia.

by nkpolitics 2008-04-03 11:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

The states Obama and Clinton need to win...

I hope that list has a big OR next to it and not an AND, right?

Speaking generally, I'm sick of hearing about nothing but Ohio and Florida.  Other light purple states are in play this year - most notably Virginia, Nevada, and other small states in the west and midwest.  Winning Florida would have put Al Gore WAAAAY over the top, but he didn't need to win it.  Taking Tennessee would have been enough.

by Mostly 2008-04-03 12:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

OR went for Kerry as well as NH, WI,MN,MI,PA.etc

by nkpolitics 2008-04-03 12:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

OR is also an anti War state.

by nkpolitics 2008-04-03 12:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

Tennesse and Lousiana have moved towards the Republicans

Colorado and Virginia are trending Democratic.

by nkpolitics 2008-04-03 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

I agree....  Florida also has an Gay Marriage Amendment on the ballot this year... as well as a popular GOP Governor that may well be tapped for veep...  I don't think it's purple this year at all...

by JenKinFLA 2008-04-03 04:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

The answer to the question is that all three remaining candidates are electable.

by bobbank 2008-04-03 01:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Who's Electable Now?

Anybody who's ever been elected to any office is "electable."

I thought "Where's the beef?" back in 1984 was a much better criterion for selecting a nominee.(snark)

"Where's the beef" gave us Mondale and "electability" gave us Kerry. It time to choose with our records and proposals rather than stupid slogans.

by Kobi 2008-04-03 02:23PM | 0 recs

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