Democrats commit suicide

With the near certain failure of healthcare reform, the Democratic party has decided that it no longer wants to be a Congressional majority.  Jim DeMint was on the money when he said that healthcare reform would be "Obama's Waterloo".  This now ensures that Obama will be a lame duck at least until 2012.  Now, after seeing that Obama has caved on the issue that he decided to spend his last ounce of political capital on, Congress will now see him as nothing but a joke that can be rolled over.  Now that healthcare reform is dead, Cap and Trade, repeal of DOMA and DADT, and repeal of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy are all dead.  If Obama couldn't get Democrats to support healthcare, how will he ever get them to tackle issues that involve raising taxes and upsetting Evangelical Christians?

There are a couple of good things that we have gotten out of Obama's term.  We have gotten Sonya Sotamayor on the Supreme Court, and were able to get an $800 billion stimulus package through Congress.  The problem with the stimulus package is that once it starts to kick in and heal the economy, Republicans will likely take all the credit.  The same thing happened after 1993 when Clinton pushed through a deficit reduction package through Congress and it revived the economy and balanced the budget.  The Republican Congress pretty much took all the credit for that even though Democrats pushed it through.

Without healthcare reform, Democrats have decided that they will simply run a defensive campaign in 2010.  You will see a lot of Democrats running ads saying that "I have taken on my own party.  I even helped kill Obama's healthcare plan".  This may well work, but it would have been a hell of a lot easier for them if they had something to run on rather than against.

We simply need to realize that most of the things we wanted to pass are probably going to have to wait until the next Democratic President, whenever that may be.  This all shows that the 2008 election was not a realignment, but an aberration in what remains a stubbornly right leaning nation.

Tags: Democrats, Healthcare, obama (all tags)

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All dead......it's over, done burned to a crisp...

Hell, is it too late to unapppoint Sotomayor and put Miguel Estrada in her place?

Kent, do us all a favor. Blow your fucking brains out, because this much galactic pessimism is probably second only to Anti-matter in the warp coils for potential of a breech in the space-time continuum.

One more dire end of the universe as we know it diary from you, or the other cadre's of "See, I told you so" MyDD contingency, and I fear a galactic disaster of Hollywood B Movie proportions!

by WashStateBlue 2009-08-18 01:51PM | 0 recs
That is completely inappropriate

And in very bad taste.  

by Kent 2009-08-18 08:46PM | 0 recs
Yes, well

Your diary is completely inappropriate and in bad taste.

WSB didn't bring up suicide first, you did.

by Dracomicron 2009-08-19 07:46AM | 0 recs
Dramicon is correct

Since you CLAIM to be a Democrat, and you are saying we are committing suicide, I simply suggested you lead the way....

Kent, or Upstate Dem, your act is old and tired, and transparent as can be.

You play this agent of gloom and doom, it's all over, we are defeated, yada yada yada..

You know you're going to get nothing but derision, so knock off the feigned outrage.

It's just so Republican of you, and it is blowing your cover even more then your diaries.

by WashStateBlue 2009-08-19 08:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

The hog hasn't been let out of the barn yet...

by lori 2009-08-18 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

Well, this is a stupid diary.  Lately, that's really saying something.

by fogiv 2009-08-18 02:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

Whoa dude, I am surprised you had the will power to type this.  The fact that you got up off the couch is a step in the right direction. You should capitalize on that momentum to acheive the things in life you dream about.

As to the content, you should show a little more restraint, this is coming out a wee bit too soon and it demonstrates your eagerness to cheer for democrats/Obama's defeat.  IOW, you're showing your hand again.

by KLRinLA 2009-08-18 02:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

Grab your bankie and your paci and take a nap. Things will better when you wake up, Sunshine.

by JerryColorado23 2009-08-18 02:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

It won't work.  The sky is always cloudy in UpstateDemland.

by Khun David 2009-08-18 02:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

This is premature, but aprpeciate only in the sense that they do run that risk in terms of public perception issues in th enear future.

by bruh3 2009-08-18 03:17PM | 0 recs
Re: What?

 you've been saying precisely the same thing for weeks! Sure, you haven't been as concise or clear, but the message has been identical.

by QTG 2009-08-18 04:07PM | 0 recs
There are very few known constants in the universe

1. Somehow the House passes a public option and by reconcilliation and by the slimest of votes, it passes.

Bruh will tell us "see, I told you so...."

2. If it goes down in flames, and we get some weak-water-co-op INSURANCE reform bill....

Bruh will tell is "See, I told you so...."

It's like Plank's constant or any of the universal presets.

The day Bruh admits "Whoa, I was really wrong about that one, I didn't see THAT coming...."

Gravity will reverse, water will flow up hill, and iron will spontaneously turn to gold....

by WashStateBlue 2009-08-18 04:14PM | 0 recs
funny

Oh, I can admit when I am wrong and you can have a way to test whether I am right on the specifics of my arguments and circumstances upon which I made them.

This is as opposed to the moving target of first looking to President Obama to tell me what to think like several of you do.  As Glenn Greenwald put it- it is interesting to watch you agree with Obama when he's for something, and then agree with him when he's against something because you demonstrate there is no pricnple involved at all in anything you say here.

by bruh3 2009-08-18 04:38PM | 0 recs
Obama's Term?

Since when is eight months a Presidential term? Ignored for the shear lack of critical thinking skills.

by jsfox 2009-08-18 03:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

Kent--
Why don't you and UpState Dem get together and take your whiny little rear ends over to DennisKucinich Underground, where you and all the other borderline Greenies can sit around an moan  all day.

Sometimes I wish I was a moderator on these sights, so I could say the following...
"Booger-eating purity trolls! Go back to your mohter's basement! We're just taking grown-up discussions today."

But if I did that, the liberal blogosphere would get quiet in a hurry.
 

by spirowasright 2009-08-18 03:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

CONGRATULATIONS!

But if I did that, the liberal blogosphere would get quiet in a hurry.

You've been selected to participate in the Understatement of the Year awards.

by fogiv 2009-08-18 04:04PM | 0 recs
Kent IS Upstatedem

Kent posted an identical comment a few months ago to an UpstateDem one on kos.

by DTOzone 2009-08-18 06:09PM | 0 recs
Um...

Kent is Upstate Dem.  He/she/it posted identical diaries on DK and MyDD.

by Khun David 2009-08-18 08:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

Yeah, and it's all pointless anyway.  Either the universe is going to die after petering out to entropy (cold death), or it's all going to contract back to the center and implode (hot death).

And Paula Abdul is leaving American Idol.

Life has no meaning.

by Drummond 2009-08-18 07:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

With one classic line, "There are a couple of good things that we have gotten out of Obama's term," this diary crossed the boundary that separates mere pessimism from performance art.

by Steve M 2009-08-18 09:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Democrats commit suicide

If health care reform fails, then the Democrats will be in trouble in 2010. Accomplishment and a sense of momentum is what keeps a political party in power. Once they are perceived to be ineffective they are thrown out of office. The Blue Dog Democrats for some reason are stuck on the idea that they must vote on the middle of every issue in order to get reelected. But history shows that if the Democrats fail, the Blue Dogs are the first to be thrown out of office.

by Zzyzzy 2009-08-19 09:10AM | 0 recs

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