Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to destroy the Clintons

There is a lot more I am writing myself about Donna's role in the DNC's decision to not seat Fl and MI.

In this blog the author posts real Email conversations Donna had with her.
Donna is out of her mind and is claiming that SHE saved Bill Clinton's presidency and that the nation still sees Donna as Gores spokesperson. So if Donna officially endorses Obama everyone will see it as Gore's position as well.

BTW: if Obama wins, Donna is speculated to be the probable chair of the DNC.

Please forward this to CNN and tell them they can no longer let Brazile pretend to be a "neutral" commentator.

Please forward this to CNN and tell them they can no longer let Brazile pretend to be a "neutral" commentator.

Donna Brazile is for Obama
by: masslib
Thu Apr 10, 2008 at 23:14:42 PM EDT

For the last several months it's been pretty obvious to anyone who watches CNN, that "neutral" commentator Donna Brazile actually harbors anti-Hillary feelings, if not an outright preference for Obama. CNN decided to bench pundit James Carville  because of his pro-Clinton bias. Maybe CNN doesn't yet believe that Brazile has taken sides.
Bothered by her obvious bias, last month I began an e-mail correspondence with Brazile to express my disappointment in her as a DNC leader. I share some of what she wrote back to me below. If CNN doesn't pull the plug on her after they read this, then Saturday Night Live was right when they said CNN was in the tank for Obama.
masslib :: Donna Brazile is for Obama
I'm making these e-mails public not just because I don't want to see her on CNN, but because with rumors afoot of her aspirations to be DNC Chair if Obama becomes the nominee, I think it's important that Democrats see what they would be in for. While I appreciate her willingness to correspond with me, what you can see in these excerpts is an individual who doesn't have the political saavy to communicate with the public (keep in mind I was an anonymous stranger when she wrote to me) in an appropriate and pro-Party fashion. You can see that she has no problem creating inferences that Hillary Clinton is a racist. You can see that she feels she has no responsibility to stand up against sexism. And you can see most shockingly that she resents Democrats for leaving her out in the cold since managing Al Gore's losing 2000 campaign, finding the highest praise not for those in the Party she aspires to lead, but for Republicans.
Without further ado, here are some choice excerpts from our exchange. (view emails in their entirety here)

ME: I am very disappointed in you. I saw you at the State of the Black Union, and not once did you speak out against a number of sexist and divisive comments about Hillary. I understand the desire to see an African American President. I share that desire. I just don't find Senator Obama, with his limited resume, and few public accomplishments(ie accomplishments for the people, not personal accomplishments like book writing) to have the resume for President, at this point. I think Hillary is correct to point to her strong resume, and that isn't racist.

Donna Brazile(DB): I am very sorry that you tuned into my life just three weeks ago and not the 40 years I have engaged politics on a very personal level.

Just be up to date in your criticism and go back and read my columns, see my interviews and then walk a moment in the shoes of someone who calls a spade a spade. [emphasis added]

Thanks Donna. I don't know if you're telling me that you're a straight shooter or if you're daring me to use racially charged rhetoric to make a point.

ME: I'm young, but I have been watching you for eight years. You can not possibly think I just tuned in three weeks ago. That's why I expect more from you. You are one of the most prominent female voices of the Democratic Party. Emotions are running high, and the media is just loving to play up the fissures in the Party.

DB: Please don't lecture me about the isms in America . You cannot blame the media for Clinton being behind or running out of money.

It's the strategy stupid... And I for one have gotten down right tired of the lame excuses.

When many of us beat the heck out of Obama last year, we were not called racists.

I, for one, can't recall Donna ever beating Obama last year.

ME: I don't expect you to watch the sexism. I was hoping for a more fair reading from you. I think it's loopy to think Hillary has run a racist campaign. Really loopy. Again, the 3am ad, winning NH??? These are not signs of racism. If you respect a candidate, you run against them on the merits, which Hillary has done.

DB: Just ask Hillary why is she apologizing to Black folks at every turn.

And now Obama has to denounce his pastor.

Here's where Donna really ratchets up the rhetoric. She won't come right out and say Hillary is a racist, but she'll imply that an apology from Hillary equals an admission of racism. As for Reverend Wright, Obama didn't have to denounce him. He found it politically expedient to do so.  

ME: She doesn't have to. She just is because she doesn't want anyone to feel alienated or offended. I can not believe that's what you really see. How sad.

DB: I defended the Clintons and it was Black people who kept their asses in office. [emphasis added]

Now, show respect and not indifference or worse insularity and more insults.

I am not checking my black or feminist credentials into the locker box for either candidate.

ME: Let's agree on some things. I have never walked a mile in your shoes. I am outraged by the continued institutional racism in our justice system, in our educational system, in our society. We are not at odds here. As far as McCain goes, I dislike him, and his extremist supporters.
I do think that if you believe Hillary Clinton is a racist or has employed a racist campaign strategy, you are overreaching to the extreme.

DB: She's the one apologizing to Black folks. Not me. Not You. She is the one saying I regret. Not me. Not you.

ME: Yes, because she doesn't want any one to be offended. She's a buck stops here person. I think that's an admirable quality.

DB: Blacks have been deeply wounded by the duplicity of the Clintons. Now, you may not like it or agree. But as a black person who helped saved the Clinton presidency, please just respect what I am saying. [emphasis added]
Again, you disagree. But, I honestly believe the wounds will not heal. It's personal and the Clintons have shown their darker demons. [emphasis added]
Now, I will end it here. I was Al Gore's Campaign Manager. Let the buck stop here.
If I make a decision to go with Obama, people read it as Al Gore hates the Clintons.
So, I stay above the bull and do not take bull from the Clintons or the
Obamas or the McCains.
I don't owe anybody a dime. And if I counted who has helped me since 2000, its Republican men and not Democrats.
Go figure and good night.

Did she just say what I think she said? The aspirant to head the DNC owes her success to Republican men not Democrats. I, for one, can think of at least one notable Republican man who hasn't done a damn thing for me for the past eight years. Somebody stop her.
The author of this post is in no way shape or form employed by or connected to Senator Hillary Clinton's campaign or Senate Office.  She has not discussed nor will she be discussing this matter with anyone from Senator Clinton's presidential campaign staff, her Senate staff, nor any of their surrogates or representatives.  Nor will there be any contact with President Clinton, his foundations, Chelsea, Mrs. Rodham... you get the idea right?  She speaks solely for herself in this.

Tags: African American, black, Brazile, clinton, Democratic, DNC, Donna, feminism, Hillary, HRC, obama, Primary Ddemocrat, racism, sexism, Women (all tags)



Clearly we must believe this person

I think its clear that we must accept the person who posted his first diary to a Hillary Clinton blog and the made his/her first comments to his/her own diary.  If such a credible source makes a claim, it must be true and repeated!

by PantsB 2008-04-10 09:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Clearly we must believe this person

" If such a credible source makes a claim, it must be true and repeated!"

I know Jon for about ten years and he doesn't lie. No one we know in common has ever said that Jon misrepresents things, even people who have disagreed with him on issues or had other reasons to not get along with him. He is sometimes painfully honest, even about himself. If Jon says it happened, it happened.

This exchange sounds like Donna Brazile, and is consistent with everything else I have ever heard from her.

by 07rescue 2008-04-10 10:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Clearly we must believe this person

The e-mails have been verified by Ben Smith sweetheart.

by owl06 2008-04-11 10:04AM | 0 recs
She sounds like she has

a big chip on her shoulder. That last line is very telling.

by LatinoVoter 2008-04-10 09:40PM | 0 recs
Re: She sounds like she has

What's very telling is how desperate you people must be to write a diary like this. So Brazille likes Obama, what the hell is the big deal?

Such drama queens.

by lion king 2008-04-10 09:53PM | 0 recs
Re: She sounds like she has

I've heard Donna make this point before.  It is not an argument, it is her experience that post politics Republicans have been more helpful to her than Democrats.  

Now, having cited no a single source that she wants to head the DNC, she gets put into the box of denigrating Democrats while aspiring for one of its highest offices.  BTW, she is more than qualified to hold the office.

That said, it seems the diarist desperately wants Brazile to call the Clintons racist.  Donna's response, "Why are they apologizing to black people?" seems appropriate, and it's one the diarist avoids.

From your view, it appears Donna has a chip on her shoulder.  From hers, it probably looks a bit different.  Her point is that maybe you'd feel differently, if you saw things from her perspective.  And if not, maybe you'd be a bit closer to understanding her viewpoint.

by niksder 2008-04-11 05:12AM | 0 recs
My next diary:

James Carville: DOES support Clinton and wants to destroy Obama

Frankly, who gives a rat's ass?

Another big mouth pundit/consultant...

by Bob Johnson 2008-04-10 09:42PM | 0 recs
Re: My next diary:

Except that Carville is named as a "Clinton supporter" and Brazile is named as "neutral". Enough said.

by zcflint05 2008-04-10 09:53PM | 0 recs
Well, then get rid of her.

I would agree. Pretty much all of these consultants/pundit are hacks.

Get rid of her.

Carville sucks and so does Brazile.

by Bob Johnson 2008-04-10 10:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Well, then get rid of her.

They both suck, granted, but one was instrumental in getting a Democratic president in office.  The other fumbled on the 1-yard line in 2000.  Brazile ran an incompetent campaign and now profits from it as a "objective voice."  If she's objective, so is everyone on this board.

by reggie44pride 2008-04-10 11:57PM | 0 recs
Re: My next diary:
is Carville a DNC official?
you never say anything Bob. just jump into every diary with nasty sarcasm.
by the Walrus 2008-04-10 09:55PM | 0 recs
He's on TV. Just like Brazile.

They're both big mouth jackasses. Get rid of them both. They are part of the problem, not the solution.

by Bob Johnson 2008-04-10 10:10PM | 0 recs
Re: My next diary:

That was on the DNC rules committee influencing FL and MI delegates.

by owl06 2008-04-11 10:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama

For the moment, let's just assume that this exchange is authentic.  My question is: who gives a crap?  

Though, I have to admit that it is interesting to watch certain Clinton supporters begin to unite behind the idea that Brazille is the grand villain behind the Michigan and Florida fiasco.  Is this just an example of selective memory, so that they don't have to rationalize Ickes's involvement?  

by rfahey22 2008-04-10 09:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama

Ickes and Carville have been honest as to which candidate they support. It was both Ralph Dawson and Donna who strongly pushed that FL's delegation not be reduced 50% as the rules stated but be given the additional sanction of 100% reduction. They also both favored Iowa defying the Rules and Bylaws Committee when it moved it's primary first. Originally neither NH nor IA were going to be first in 2008.

Donna and Dawson fully supported granting a waiver to Iowa moving it's primary to Jan 3. Obama was ahead in Iowa when the waiver was granted in Dec 2007. However After Florida asked for a waiver as the rules provided since they do not control the Republican majority in the state legislature and the Republicans put  legislation that would finally require a paper trail for all voting equipment to make the bill impossible for FL Democrats to vote against, both Donna and Dawson proposed and pushed hard for the nuclear option. Florida was seen early on as a state Hillary would win big and would give her campaign momentum.

Yes it is important to know whether Donna Brazile has been pushing for a candidate all along as she played a crucial role in going nuclear on Florida but granting a waiver for Iowa.

If Carvile is no longer able to be a neutral commentator than neither should Donna.

by Jon Winkleman 2008-04-11 02:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama

If the unseating of Florida was some grand conspiracy to help Obama, that doesn't explain why it passed with only one "nay" vote, including by Harold Ickes, who later on called the 100% penalty "automatic".

by Mostly 2008-04-11 05:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to

Don't emails have time/date stamps?

by hootie4170 2008-04-10 10:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to

They do, they also have headers to show where they come from. And they contain more then cherry picked ravings from someone whose tinfoil hat needs an adjustment.

by Obama Independent 2008-04-10 10:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to


by hootie4170 2008-04-10 10:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to

Email correspondence between myself and Hillary

ME: Being this is such a tight race and will last long do you think this a good thing for the Democratic Party?

HER: I just don't know what Barack is thinking...Does he know I am a Clinton?  LOL I will win this thing, I gotta a little surprise for him in May.

ME:  Could you enlighten me?

HER: It's a little something me, Bill and the Pennster have been working on....Don't tell anyone, OK?  PS write back.

ME: Uh, Okay I'm writing back...What's up with Columbia?  I mean how can you surround yourself with people who are lobbying for something you are against, shouldn't you distance yourself from them?

HER: Come on...Do you see what they pay Bill 800K for a speech?  Where do you think our 109 mil comes from?  You don't bite the hand that feeds you.  Did you watch Survivor tonight?  I was stuck in Pittsburgh (yuck) with Eddie and Sophie.

ME: No, I didn't watch Survivor...Well good luck with everything.

HER:  Yeah, gotta run, snipers you know j/k.  But remember Bitch is the New Black...God, I love Tina Fey...Peace

by hootie4170 2008-04-10 10:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Duplicity??

Queer people have been deeply wounded by the duplicity of Donna Brazile.
(To paraphrase the interview above)

You know - that little thing about gays being an "affront" to the civil rights movement.
Gawd, Ms. Brazile - you are a poster child for bigotry.

What an arrogant, self-righteous asshole.

by johnnygunn 2008-04-11 12:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Duplicity??

Perhaps you'd like the diarist to lecture you on how queer people should feel about Donna Brazile.  Because clearly you've been tricked into disliking her by the Clinton campaign.


by Mostly 2008-04-11 02:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to

You don't lend credence to your own argument in this diary. DB stated that she was someone (one of several) who helped save the Clinton Presidency during the impeachment process. She did not make an exaggerated statement. Rather, you exaggerated when you stated that "she is out of her mind" and claimed that she, personally, saved the Presidency, when this is not what she implied. The e-mail you quote disproves your own claim.

Moreover, DB is not the only commentator on TV that has pointed out that many AA's feel Hillary and Bill sold them out in this election. You may disagree with the way large numbers of AA's feel about this (that's your call), but to claim, as you seem to here, that this isn't true (that AA's feel this way) is simply false. It is demonstrably true that they feel this way. Moreover, to claim that large numbers of AA's feel this way because of the media is to insult the intelligence of these people.

It takes an awful lot of wishful thinking to believe that Bill and Hill do not know exactly what they are saying when they speak. These are highly educated people. This is the man who talked about the meaning of the word is. They know what rhetoric is and what the power of language can do because they are both masters of it. This is why so many people (commentators, insiders, and AA's) think that they were clearly "racializing" with their comments (I don't believe, as you do, in calling people "racists" because I think race is far more complicated than that). Again, whether you agree with this argument or not is your call. But you should, at the very least, understand the argument. And it's not clear that you do. You seem to be implying that this idea came from outer space or was simply manufactured by the media--in which case you would be implying that everyone who feels this way was duped by the media. So, in effect, you would be arguing that large numbers of AA's, who have lived with racism all their lives, and who know how to read the signs and hear the code words of race, are simply suffering from some form of mass delusion or "false consciousness"? What then, I ask you, is the effect of this argument you are putting forward? And how is it connected to the history of race in this country?

by DrPolitics 2008-04-11 01:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to
Donna Brazile was the one who went to the press to say she was offended by Bill's comment on Obama's stance on the war being a "fairy tale", and it was "racist". Stupidest comment of the entire election, but it set the tone for the SC primary and the twisting of every statement from the Clintons as racist from the Obama camp.
Donna Brazile is one of the DNC members who pushed to have MI and FL stripped of their delegates (while ignoring the leap frogging of Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire), when the DNC rules say that states that violate the rules shall have half of their elected delegates stripped and all of the superdelegates.
She's been an Obama supporter for a long time.
by skohayes 2008-04-11 03:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to

I've said this before - I was an Edward's supporter and saw the Clinton campaign playing dirty pool in real time; I didn't need anyone to tell me what they were up to.  But even if I didn't, african americans did, and you'd think they would be able to pick up on those things even if you can't.

Show some humility.  You remind me of guys who don't take women's claims of sexism seriously, or try to laugh them off.  And opening up your little missive to Donna Brazile with "I know you want to see an African American elected..." makes me feel insulted FOR her.

It's generally a good rule of thumb to give the aggrieved party the benefit of the doubt.  They will almost always have insights into things that you don't.

by Mostly 2008-04-11 02:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to

This diary is virtually unreadable - you need to format it to make an obvious distinction between quotes and commentary.  But having struggled through it, who cares?  There's nothing here apart from the usual Clintonesque "everyone's ganging up on me, it's so unfair".  You guys need to stop it - it's backfiring and turning reasonale people off.

by interestedbystander 2008-04-11 02:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Donna Brazile: DOES support Obama and wants to

BTW: if Obama wins, Donna is speculated to be the probable chair of the DNC.

I clicked on your link, and the person speculating that Donna Brazile is angling for DNC chair is.... you.  (Hint - use of the passive voice is generally a giveaway.)

by Mostly 2008-04-11 05:20AM | 0 recs
laughing stock

She is a laughing stock. All she cares is about a candidate with the same skin color. LOL.


by prisonbreak 2008-04-11 07:42AM | 0 recs
Re: if I counted

"who has helped me since 2000, its Republican men and not Democrats."

Did I hear Donna Brazille recently say she is  good friends with Karl Rove?  I think I heard her say this either on NPR on one of TV cable shows.  Anyone else hear this?

If so, I wouldn't be surprised if Brazille and Rove worked together to bring about the FL and MI fiascos.  Sure plays into their hands (obama's and Repub hands that is).

by moevaughn 2008-04-11 08:09AM | 0 recs
Here are all the emails

If you really want to read the crap Brazile writes.

by NewHampster 2008-04-11 01:50PM | 0 recs


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