Goodbye Until After The November Election, MYDD

This site has clearly been taken over by extremist fangurls of Hillary Rodham Clinton.  If I wanted to go to Hillary's campaign site, I would.  

The really embarrassing part of it for the Hillbots here is that this is perhaps the only site on the liberal blogosphere that would susceptible to this takeover because they can overwhelm the numbers here.  On dailykos they are a minority voice - a loud, vocal, and annoying voice - but a small, inconsequential voice nonetheless.

I have been here for a long time.  And I enjoy the site mainly for its emphasis on elections and the congressional races.  But it is no longer recognizable.  Indeed, all this site is is a propaganda outlet for the most visceral, obnoxious Hillary supporters, apologists, and propagandists.

I choose to no longer take part.  So go ahead, take over the site.  But you won't have me readng all your bullshit propaganda ever again.  I'm done.

Tags: 2008 (all tags)




Oh gosh. Don't leave. Not. You know I felt the same say over at KOS. Except, that site's been taken over by Clinton-haters. You should feel at home! Peace!

by lonnette33 2008-01-20 09:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Bye!

you're actually one of the Hillary people I like.  You at least have a great sense of humor.  You and georgep, kingstongirl and masslib1 (formerly known as bookgirl) are good people.

The rest?  Not so much.

by jgarcia 2008-01-20 09:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Bye!

I'm sorry to see that you're leaving. This will be a tough time for the progressives on this site who back Edwards or Obama.

by Rare Sense 2008-01-20 09:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Bye!

Edwards does just fine over here and so does Obama. Clinton has supporters, I hate to tell you that. You should get over it.

by lonnette33 2008-01-20 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Bye!

they'll all leave like I am doing.  I am posting replies in this diary, and then I am going to sign off my username here and try and come back after the November election.

NOt that big a fan of dailykos, either.  They are just as bad in the opposite direction sometimes.  

I like issue focus and congressional race stuff.  But I am not coming to a site with assholes who call Barack Obama "Barry" and mention his middle name at the drop of a hat.

by jgarcia 2008-01-20 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Bye!

I feel bad for being sacastic. Good luck!

by lonnette33 2008-01-20 09:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Bye!

your sig is so true.  

by gobacktotexas 2008-01-20 10:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Bye!

thanks.  and the sig seems to describe most of the hillbots here.  why don't they attack REPUBLICANS with the same amount of venom that they do the Obama and Edwards people here.

by jgarcia 2008-01-20 10:10AM | 0 recs
Do You Want to Win in November?

Clinton supporters -- you just are not doing your candidate any favors by the constant, truly obnoxious attacks.  I'm about ready to follow jgarcia.  I really wonder, seriously, if the so-called Clinton supporters on this site -- many, obviously not all -- are not Free Republic types or junior Rebublican tricksters -- who are just sowing division among Democrats.  I'm sure some of 'em pose as Obama supporters too.

by howardpark 2008-01-20 09:52AM | 0 recs


Don't let your web browser hit you in the...  ;)

by BigBoyBlue 2008-01-20 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye Until After The November

LOL, we posted this at like the same time! That's hilarious.

by X Stryker 2008-01-20 09:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye Until After The November

yeah, I saw yours after I had hit submit on mine.

How long have you been here?  I have been posting consistently for the past five years.  Since the Dean phenomenon in 2003.

I doubt I'll be back.  And I don't just whistle dixie.  When I am done, I am done.  No one will see me back here after this diary.  

I am not happy about it because you get attached to a site like this when you've been posting for years.  

by jgarcia 2008-01-20 10:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye Until After The November

I've been lurking since post-convention 2004. I commented occasionally in 2006, but spent most of 2005 and 2007 away from blogging. I've only been really active since this past December, but by that point MyDD had been daily reading for a couple months. I'm really more of a Swing State Project guy.

by X Stryker 2008-01-20 10:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye Until After The November Election, MYD

Actually, we Hillary supporters only make up a quarter of the readers here according to the poll on the frontpage, while Obama makes up 45% (even Edwards has more votes in that poll then Clinton).

I agree that things have become nasty (from all sides, although I admit I am ashamed of some of my fellow Hillary supporters) but we are a minority here, just as on DailyKos.

by forecaster15 2008-01-20 10:00AM | 0 recs
boo hoo, sour grapes eater
can't stand to have your ass kicked by a lot of girls, huh?
Buh bye.  When I started posting her there were about 3 Clinton supporters.  I was not one of them, but I defended her and her supporters because the behavior of the supporters of other candidates who so bizarre.  
Not one of you ever have any facts about her actual record.  You just spew lots of hate and bile based on the blog koolaid you have consumed.  Now you are getting the same shit thrown back in your fact and it's not fun is it?
The reason there are Clinton supporters here is because you can't auto-ban people and control the discussion like at dkos.  That place has been taken over by the brat brigade.  
by MollieBradford 2008-01-20 10:04AM | 0 recs
Re: boo hoo, sour grapes eater

Look at my history.  I have defended Hillary against attacks here for YEARS.  Before YOU were here.

I resent you calling me a woman hater.  See, this is exhibit A in what I am talking about.  I jumped from supporting Hillart because of Mark Penn, Terry McAuliffe and Lee Feinstein also Harold Ford becoming Chairman of the DNC upon a Clinton victory.

I've even told of how my own mother resembles Hillary in an uncanny way.  Looks just like her and they are similar in age and my mom was/is a bigtime feminist.  I doubt I would be a misogynist being raised by such a person.

by jgarcia 2008-01-20 10:09AM | 0 recs
Re: boo hoo, sour grapes eater

can't stand to have your ass kicked by a lot of girls, huh?

That is certainly a strong argument that people disliking Hillary and her supporters because of their gender.   You are a very wise, open-minded person.     It's hard to see how anyone could disagree with your reasoning on any topic.  

by gobacktotexas 2008-01-20 10:12AM | 0 recs
Re: boo hoo, sour grapes eater

Are you 12 or 13 this year?

by HSTruman 2008-01-20 10:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye

The people leaving are just angry that she won Nevada.

by reasonwarrior 2008-01-20 10:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye

yeah, i am leaving a site i have been going to for five years because my candidate lost a caucus in Nevada?

are you nuts?

by jgarcia 2008-01-20 10:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye

No, I'm not.  Nothing Clinton supporters have said today hasn't been said- and worse- by them here before, so there has to be something more to it than that.  So yes, I do think the Nevada win played a part in it.

by reasonwarrior 2008-01-20 11:28AM | 0 recs
Sorry to See You Go

You alway struck me as someone who tried to be objective, even when you were wrong (read:  when you disagreed with me).  :)  

Seriously though, you will be missed.  Hopefully we'll see you again after the silly season is over.  I'm hopeful, if not optimistic, that things will be more tolerable once all this crap plays itself out.  

by HSTruman 2008-01-20 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry to See You Go

you as well.  I remember disagreeing with you on stuff (i think you may be more moderate than i being far left and all), but you were always respectful and objective.

i always tried to separate my comment into two categories, depending on the diary/topic:  1) advocacy, 2) political analysis.  Many people here hate objective political analysis if it doesn't conform to their worldview and/or their favorite candidate.

by jgarcia 2008-01-20 10:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry to See You Go

Thanks, although I'm not sure I qualify as "moderate."  More likely, we have simply fallen into different streams of "progressive" from time to time.  Which, ideally, isn't a problem if such disagreements can remain civil.

At all events, you really will be missed.  

by HSTruman 2008-01-20 10:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye Until

Sorry to read that Jgarcia.

I hear what you're saying though.. You got a point.

by crackityjones 2008-01-20 10:29AM | 0 recs

Candidates and their campaigns cannot control, nor are they responsible for, their amateur fans.

Not everyone who posts at a political site is who they want to appear to be.

Things might clear up and out after February 5th, if the staying power of candidate fans is any indication...

by Michael Bersin 2008-01-20 10:55AM | 0 recs
I still meant what I said before

about trusting your motives. You've gotten really combative lately, though. In any case, best of luck. We all need a break from this stuff now and then. Speaking for myself, I'm practically at my wit's end.

by bowiegeek 2008-01-20 11:00AM | 0 recs
the one good thing about being a periodic...

reader and poster is that i don't get worn out by it.  but one thing i'd suggest is to go off-line and actually volunteer for your candidate (if you don't do that now) or the local party.

another thing is to not take it too personally.  i find it a lot easier to think of this kind of interaction as an argument.  some of the arguments (like the differences between seymour and myself about our vision for the democratic party) are long term.  but most of our disagreements, especially about candidates, are not.  sure, the most ardent supporters of candidates may not participate towards the winner's benefit in the fall, but most people here (and on dkos) will.  but, presumably, we're all democrats, which makes us family.  we don't always agree with family, but still.

the final thing i'd suggest is, if you are really confident in the success of your candidate, be more gracious.  one of the problems that democrats ALWAYS have in contested presidential campaigns is unifying the party.  that's partly because we are more of a coalition of different interests that don't always agree with each other and partly because democrats just aren't disciplined.  in 2004, kerry was still trying to unify the party in october.  it may seem obvious to suggest that the party has to unify to win, but hurt feelings, etc, make that harder.  yeah, yeah, it's hard to sit by while your opponents make specious claims about your candidate, but losing sucks.  reacting with equal vigor only perpetuates the death spiral.  it's the winners who will need to losers, not the other way around...

by bored now 2008-01-20 02:41PM | 0 recs
fine words. n/t

by bowiegeek 2008-01-20 03:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye

That small, inconsequential voice over there, that so annoys  you, just happens- at the moment, at least, to be WINNING.  That doesn't seem so inconsequential to me.

by reasonwarrior 2008-01-20 11:23AM | 0 recs
Keep the faith, J. The virus will be exterminated

BEFORE November '08.

by nafamabo 2008-01-20 11:36AM | 0 recs
I would think you would want to stay here!
As this is the best site to earn converts for Obama, and at the moment there still is no clear front runner for the Democrats.
My only concern with this site is the vitriolic tone towards Obama, which is extremely counter productive, as Clinton will need all of the Obama supporters to have any chance in November.
I have been of the opinion from the beginning that Clinton would be the eventual nominee, as the establishment is just too much in her favor, and she has a lot of cash on hand and the infrastructure left over from the Clinton 42 administration. But I think her difficulties bringing out the male vote, and the hatred that the MSM and the nation wide pundits express towards her, make her far more vulnerable than any Clinton supporter has been willing to admit here or anywhere. Also I am concerned about the detrimental effect her polarizing presence will have on the nation if she gets elected president.
The only candidate I see as truly unifying an inspiring, for all, is Obama, and his speech today in South Carolina show cased just how incredibly unifying and inspiring he will be as president (which I am convinced will happen eventually, though perhaps later when his experience and heritage are less questioned).
Men like Obama only come around about once a century.
I love Hillary Clinton, I will support her throughly in November (in the likely event that she wins the nomination), but she can't deliver speeches like Obama can, and she won't be able to unite and inspire the nation like Obama does.
And if the Hillary people piss off the Obama people too much, they are going to lose Obama's dazzle in the campaign for the presidency, should Clinton win the nomination.  
by fetboy 2008-01-20 11:51AM | 0 recs
The link that mydd should be posting 108/Obama_at_Ebenezer_Two_calls_for_unit y.html
As much as I hate the politico I felt the readers of  mydd should have access to Obama's very moving speech (which was one of the few speeches that brought tears to my eyes just reading it).
Dailykos also has the entire speech posted.
In follow up, I think it would be better to elect Obama President sooner rather than later.
by fetboy 2008-01-20 12:16PM | 0 recs
youre upset by my callng him barry

why didnt this outrage you?


"It is unfortunate that people have tried to distort what Mrs. Clinton had to say about Dr. King," "I think there has been a deliberate and systematic attempt by some people in the Obama campaign to really fan the flames about race and to really distort what Senator Clinton said.  I understood and I think most right thinking people understood what she said.

"President and Senator Clinton have a record, a history, a very long history of bringing people together.  No right thinking American would ever think that Senator or President Clinton would ever do anything that would use the race card"

"I must tell you...I'm trying to set the record straight...the Obama camp is doing something else, theyr'e sending out memos to the media trying to suggest that the Clintons are playing the race card."

-Rep. John Lewis on News Hour 1/14

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-20 12:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Goodbye Until After The November Election, MYD

Hey jgarcia--I dumped MyDD for quite a while too, as soon as the candidate supporter bits hit the front page.  IMO, this was the beginning of the end.  The site switched from being analysis to advocacy. Have been back for a few weeks, and its decayed since then.

Back to lurking, elsewhere.

by The lurking ecologist 2008-01-20 05:10PM | 0 recs


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