Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

Snubgate.

What a tremendous embarrassment for the Democratic Party.

How could we let this become an issue when men and women and boys and girls are dying in Iraq, when our economy is on the brink, and when our planet faces an unparalleled environmental crisis?

Aren't there more important things?

Yet instead of talking about matters of substance, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are talking about who refused which handshake when:

Apparently, there's now debate over whether there was a snub before the snub.

It seems that what happened in South Carolina was just the beginning:

This is what really matters:

There's one candidate in this races till talking about issues.

There's one candidate battling against the triumph of the trivial.

His name is John Edwards.

Please consider giving him your support.

Tags: 2008, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton (all tags)

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19 Comments

Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

Its the media that is playing this up. They are only interested in making news, not reporting it.

by RJEvans 2008-01-29 08:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

Yes. It would have been a non-story if Obama did not build his campaign too much around his personality. A very bad move for him and possibly for the party.

by praxis1 2008-01-29 08:12PM | 0 recs
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Hillary CONSTANTLY talks about policy and issues, you must not be listening at all.

by reasonwarrior 2008-01-29 08:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

Methinks some of you have a little too much time on your hands.

by Drummond 2008-01-29 08:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

Me thinks a guy who spends so much time here posting shouldn't judge how others are spending their time.

by FilbertSF 2008-01-29 08:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

jedreport, I normally like your diaries and think you fair.  But your comment about Hillary is inaccurate.  She did not make this an issue.

She was snubbed by Barack.  But she didn't make an issue of it.  It's the media doing the work.  

Obama's camp has also been inconsistent.  Axelrod told the morning crew at Morning Joe that Obama was turning around to face Claire McCaskill, who was asking him a question.

However, Obama camp later said that he wanted to give Ted and Hillary "alone time."  

Don't bring Hillary into this.  She graciously shoot the hands of a man who had just endorsed her rival.  

I don't understand why Obama is behaving like a spoiled child.

by FilbertSF 2008-01-29 08:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

shoot = shook

Must be a Freudian slip.

by FilbertSF 2008-01-29 08:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

"Yet instead of talking about matters of substance, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are talking about who refused which handshake when:"

Could you be so kind to point out where Hillary Clinton has actually been TALKING about this incident?   Instead of talking about issues?  

I realize this is the continuation of the theme that Edwards represents the "grown-up" party while the other two don't, but the premise of this diary is wrong, and transparently so.  

by georgep 2008-01-29 08:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

Watch the video in the diary.

by jedreport 2008-01-29 09:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

Your claim was that Hillary is talking about the issue, but what you really offer is a video simple answer to a question posed.  I guess you would have it that she refuse to answer at all cost, but that would then have the counter reaction that she is not forthcoming, does not want to speak her mind, etc.

I also don't see your point that she is not talking about issues.  There were campaign appearances yesterday and also today, and Hillary was talking issues all day long.  BTW, from what I have seen, the "snub" issue did not come up once in any of her campaign appearances.  

by georgep 2008-01-29 09:44PM | 0 recs
Clinton's hypocrisy is a little much on this.

Does no one remember this from January of 2007, the day Obama announced his exploratory committee:

The relationship began to change, according to several Democrats who are friendly to both senators, when Mr. Obama began musing aloud about a presidential bid. The day he opened his exploratory committee, several Senate observers said, he extended his hand and said hello on the Senate floor. She breezed by him, offering a cool stare.

by psericks 2008-01-29 08:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton's hypocrisy is a little much on this.

There's probably a reason why "she didn't shake MY hand a year ago" wasn't the talking point they ended up going with.  I dunno, could be just me, but it's amazing the things some people consider to be good arguments.

by Steve M 2008-01-29 09:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton's hypocrisy is a little much on this.

The strategy is to blunt the issue with a "she did it, too" message.

What the hell is a "cool stare" anyway?  Seems like a bunch of nonsense here.  So, with this idiotic throw-in, anyone could just say that the STARE was misconstrued and misinterpreted, that she was really in thought about whether she would have the Chicken Pasta or the Spaghetti with meatballs for lunch?  Or she was using one of those small bluetooth headphones and was in the middle of an intense conversation regarding hiring of campaign strategists?    "Cool stare", my foot.  

by georgep 2008-01-29 09:15PM | 0 recs
unnamed sorces = gossip

and likely never happened.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-30 02:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

When I need to look for what I consider the "common person" perception of an issue, I ask my dad, my roommates and my brother.

My brother is slightly more high information on the issues and current events than the rest.  My dad comes second, and my roommates come third.  They are all Democrats.  They will all vote in the February 5 caucuses.

And none of them have heard of "snubgate" and when I told them about it... they didn't care.  So, from my personal perspective, I don't think many people care and this will only affect a very negligible amount of votes.  If any.

by fbihop 2008-01-29 09:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

As others have said, this whole thing is entirely a media creation. That ABC News clip you posted was absolutely brazen-faced about calling it a "drama". This is what they do, and what they love. They amuse themselves by making up little dramas about trivia - clothing, hair, who's getting snubbed by whom, etc.

To them, politics is sport - their lives are well insulated from the consequences of elections, and they don't give a rip about other people's lives. Reporting on the issues makes their heads hurt from trying to learn all those facts and things. Besides, it's boring.

by itsthemedia 2008-01-29 10:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

Do you folks seriously believe that this is  "just the media" and the Clinton campaign hasn't been pushing this story all day?

by desmoulins 2008-01-30 12:10AM | 0 recs
how?

How are the Clintons pushing this story?  If they can control the media that way why have the media all but blown Obama in Rockefeller square?

by MollieBradford 2008-01-30 02:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Snubgate is humiliating the Democratic Party

According to noted political observer George Costanza, "It was a snub Jerry!  A clear snub! He DEFINITELY snubbed her!"

I agree with Costanza.  A clear snub.  Hillary should definitely add this to her list of grievances against Obama, the media, the vast right wing conspiracy, and all others who fail to recognize her rightful place in the White House.

by davey jones 2008-01-30 03:09AM | 0 recs

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