Is There Really a Media Bias?

There has been a lot of talk here on MYDD about a media bias towards Obama. In light of the recent events and coming events I think it is time to put that theory to rest. Hillary appeared on SNL last night and the Daily Show will have her on Monday night.

The timing of both of these appearances (and the Tina Fey commentary last week,) are all clearly designed to help Clinton turn things around ahead of Tuesday's Primaries in Ohio, Texas, Vermont, and Rhode Island. Now, this is great strategy from Clinton's campaign (which is a bit surprising since they have appeared, on occasion, completely tone death.) If Clinton eventually wins the nomination I would say that it will be in spite of her high level advisors rather than because of them.

What gets me most though is not that this is a series if brilliant moves by Clinton and her campaign. It is that for all of the talk about a Media bias towards Obama (including being skewered for it by SNL,) she is now being bailed out by two segments of the popular media.

I know what some of you are thinking. You are thinking "SNL and the Daily Show aren't the media, they are entertainment you <insert expletive here!>" But I would point out that these two shows are incredibly popular, particularly with younger viewers, that the Daily Show at least aspires to semi-serious discussions with its guests, and that relatively high percentages of young viewers get their news from the Daily Show (and probably from Weekend Update as well.)

Now, I have a personal opinion about all of this, particularly the fact that the Daily Show is willing to have either candidate on Monday night, but my point here is that these shows are both owned by media companies that have been continually skewered as being "too Pro-Obama."

So, can we put this talk to bed and at least admit that there are biases for both candidates throughout the media and at this critical juncture in the campaign those who want to see a Clinton win (or at the very least the campaign to continue,) have picked now to make a play for the voters (one that I bleieve might be successful.)

Tags: 2008, campaign, clinton, daily show, Media, obama, Presidential, SNL (all tags)



Re: Is There Really a Media Bias?

Yes, there really is a media bias. Next question?

by LakersFan 2008-03-02 08:12AM | 0 recs
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Way to add to the discussion!

by JDF 2008-03-02 08:12AM | 0 recs
it's scary you took time to write this diary

some things aren't debate.


by yellowdem1129 2008-03-02 08:13AM | 0 recs
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How can you question if there is a media bias? Of course there is. Did you not see the debate in Texas? That really made it manifest to everyone.

by HillaryKnight08 2008-03-02 08:18AM | 0 recs
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ahhmmm, how exactly?

by marcotom 2008-03-02 08:48AM | 0 recs
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In all kindness, I don't find this question worth answering, except to guide the questioner to the debate and observe the moderators with an open mind. That SNL skit wasn't for nothing. It was making a point.

by HillaryKnight08 2008-03-02 11:50AM | 0 recs
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It is hard to believe you have an open mind when your name is "HillaryKnight08."

by JDF 2008-03-03 03:58PM | 0 recs
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Yes, the media bias exists. And no, these two Clinton appearances do not in my opinion counter the Obama lovefest. At this point, the bias is what it is and will most likely shift to McCain regardless of who snags the Democratic nomination unless a McCain scandal surfaces.

by Liberty 2008-03-02 08:18AM | 0 recs
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Perhaps, SNL and the Daily Show are actually trying to even things out in light of the "serious media" fawning all over Obama - MSNBC being the biggest offender.

It's kind of revealing when the Canadian media can make a big deal out of something and the only American news outlet to respond is ABC - regardless of the truth value of whatever is being said.  It's the media's job to seek out the truth, and if these outlets were truly out for the truth, they would have all jumped to see what was going on and debunk it if it wasn't true.  Where were CBS, NBC, CNN and the rest?

by ejintx 2008-03-02 08:22AM | 0 recs
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Is it really evening things out when it happens directly ahead of such a big primary day?

If the Daily Show had put Obama on the night before Super Tuesday the Clinton supporters would have been screaming bloody murder.

by JDF 2008-03-02 08:29AM | 0 recs
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Two or three nights on media that's generally valued for comedy near a primary election over six months of media valued for objectivity?  I think it's a small trade off.

by ejintx 2008-03-02 08:33AM | 0 recs
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6 months? That is just dishonest. All over this summer and up until Iowa, the media has basically been saying that Clinton is the nominee, how good she looked in the debates and how Obama does not stand a change.

by marcotom 2008-03-02 08:51AM | 0 recs
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Fine, I guessed at a number.  At least since Iowa; it doesn't alter what I'm saying.

by ejintx 2008-03-02 09:09AM | 0 recs
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And what about CTV and ABC verses the rest?

by ejintx 2008-03-02 08:34AM | 0 recs

by diplomatic 2008-03-02 08:23AM | 0 recs
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Maybe objective viewers are just aware that that there is nothing to the Rezko case and don't have any interest in burying Obama with a fake scandal.

And yes, I would agree that at times the treatment of Clinton has been a disgrace, that being said giving her the face time she deserved earlier, all at once and ahead of what has been advertised as her last stand is a pretty compelling case for the idea that at least some in the media want to see a Clinton comeback.

by JDF 2008-03-02 08:25AM | 0 recs
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JDF - I did not now nor  have I ever mentioned or referenced the Rezko situation on this site. Let's be honest here, OK. History was made the night Hillary Clinton won the NH primary, the first woman to ever snag a primary victory. And the networks went immediately with the race angle. The mainstream press corp had her buried and at the very moment that Clinton rose from the grave, the race angle was dealt. If you have the desire to deny this occurance, so be it. My style is not to involve myself in the crud and mud slinging of either candidate. But, to deny a media bias is a ridiculous denial.

by Liberty 2008-03-02 08:34AM | 0 recs
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SO it would have been good for the media to talk about how wonderful it was that history had been made?

I hate to break it to you, but we all watched it happen. That would have been even less relevant as analysis than discussing the race issue (which I do think was unreasonable.)

The bottom line is that if the media had covered the sunshine and rainbows of history making instead of offering political anlaysis (no matter how terrible that analysis was) they would have ended the campaign that night which would have been perhaps the most dishonest thing they could have done.

by JDF 2008-03-02 08:42AM | 0 recs
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The media's relevance is to report the facts not engage in a race baiting tactic based on the desire to injure a candidacy.

by Liberty 2008-03-02 08:55AM | 0 recs
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I don't have a beef. I am merely pointing out that at a time when media coverage CAN turn around her campaign she is suddenly getting it. That tends to suggest, that at the very least, the bias is not as strong as some here think it is.

by JDF 2008-03-02 08:32AM | 0 recs
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  Ohhhh, that sends a tingle up my leg.

by gunner 2008-03-02 08:36AM | 0 recs
I think it's ironic

That the theme Camp Clinton has decided to use as its "viral closer" a tried and tattered GOP message:  It's the media's fault.

Here's the problem....

Too many people think "the media" is ENTIRELY comprised of Chris Matthews and other cable teevee bloviators.

In fact, mainstream newspapers, the network evening news, etc -- have been about as balanced as they've always been.  

The only people - the only voters - that get their "news" from the MSNBC/CNN/FOX set are those that are smart enough to make up their mind WITHOUT that input.

Don't get me wrong... away with Matthews, Be Gone David Schuster, take a break and retool, CNN.

But the idea that Clinton is going to lose because the "media" is against her is silly.

by zonk 2008-03-02 08:37AM | 0 recs
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But people who don't pay a lot of attention make up the majority of voters.  If it looks like everybody they watch is for Obama, they get the sense that he's the guy to vote for.  That's why its so important to have balance.  Did you see MSNBC's Brian Wilson on the Daily Show on Thursday?  Trying really hard to be neutral.  This is because its now become an issue.  If the Clinton Camp hadn't made it an issue, you'd still see expressions of glee on the faces of Russert and Matthews when tearing her apart.

by FarWest 2008-03-02 08:49AM | 0 recs
Brian Wilson?

If the Beach Boys are in the bag for Obama, then we might see Obama starting to crack the generational gap.

by zonk 2008-03-02 08:54AM | 0 recs
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Recc'd because someone gave this a 1. This is not the kind of comment that should be given a 1.

by MediaFreeze 2008-03-02 09:04AM | 0 recs
The media bias is for Hillary

Obama has continually brought up the issue of campaign finance - the fact that he doesn't take corporate PAC money or federal lobbyist money and he has been ignored.  He has brought it up at every debate and in every speech he has given.  The corporate media disapproves and Hillary, who was on the cover of Fortune Magazine last year declaring that she was open for business and has taken more corporate money that any other candidate Republican or Democrat, has been give a huge pass.  

The idea that Obama has been given a pass is pure demagoguery.  

by Moonwood 2008-03-02 09:04AM | 0 recs
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Anyone that does not think there has been a consistent media bias in favor of Obama and against Clinton has not been watching television. It has amounted to a 24/7 Obama commercial on all major networks and cable outlets. The comedy channels are not the news and they are getting away with this satire in spite of the corporate media bias. I suspect they are taking a lot of heat internally.

That media bias will switch to McCain as soon as (and if) Obama wins the nomination and the diarist will be writing long frustrated diaries about McCain media bias.

by MediaFreeze 2008-03-02 09:11AM | 0 recs
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The fact that you would say this means you know NOTHING about me as a person or a diarist. I am too busy on most days actually working for candidates to whine about anything. When I write a diary it is to make a point that I think is relevant not to whine or post hyperbolic crap.

by JDF 2008-03-02 09:26AM | 0 recs
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I guess you also believe Hillary Clinton somehow timed it so that the writers strike would end just in the nick of time. Otherwise, there would have been no SNL or Tina Fey commentary.

Seriously, there is a bias. Everybody knows it. The media continues it's love affair with Obama. Often times, comedy helps us better stomach these very serious issues.

by zenful6219 2008-03-02 09:35AM | 0 recs
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I'd like to see an objective, methodological study of the media to determine bias. As I've said before, as someone who does a lot of media monitoring as part of my job, I have not noticed significant bias toward or against either candidate in this primary. Yes, I'm an Obama supporter, but I'm professional enough to take that out of consideration when it comes to my actual job performance. Obviously my conclusions are my own and a far cry from scientific, but if someone can cite some kind of objective analysis of the news that determines a pro-Obama bias, I'd love to see it.

by amiches 2008-03-02 09:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Is There Really a Media Bias?
Bias is the wrong word.  Bias suggests a slight leaning.  The cable news networks have systematically disparaged and mocked Clinton, while praising and advocating for Obama for months.  From the choice of guests on panels (who if they are Clinton supporters are so identified; if they are Obama supporters they are not), to the teasers and topics covered (compare Drudge's photo coverage to CTV's NAFTA reporting), to the clips pre-edited for broadcast, to the debate gang-ups, no one can in honesty believe the treatment has been evenhanded.  In particular, also, contrast the reverse race-baiting coverage (from the phony Bradley effect analysis post-NH, to the Brazile-penned memo from the O camp, to the dog whistle coverage of Bill), compared to the day-after-day hardeharhar misogyny coming from our even most progressive moderators.  
I've been doing my methodological study, thanks, and the fish stinks.
by oh puhleeze 2008-03-02 10:26AM | 0 recs
The Clintons are the ultimate victims
There is no one in modern politics who is best at transforming themselves into the victims - in ANY situation.
by highgrade 2008-03-02 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Is There Really a Media Bias?
Agree with every word, lorelynn. And Obama has already been on SNL, too.

I hereby nominate this for Quote of the Week:

He is a one man shit factory and he adores Obama - Obama makes his leg tingle, god help us.

LOL. You deserve a cookie for that.

by sricki 2008-03-02 01:09PM | 0 recs
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It's true.  the biases do occur in media.  I think, at least in part, it's due to the viewing audience.  It's the reason the don't show football highlights on the lifetime channel. The sad thing is that to people that actually pay attention, the biases don't matter.  It's the people who decide that they want to see where the potential candidates stand.  

Watching t.v. isn't doing research.    

by SleepingIn 2008-03-04 03:16PM | 0 recs


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