Patrick Murphy, Congressman, Endorses Obama

This is a good endorsement.  Murphy is the only congressman who fought in Iraq.  He also was the main character in Hillary Clinton's speech to the VFW National Convention.

When Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton addressed the Veterans of Foreign Wars national convention here yesterday, she told the story of how she met a "bright, young captain" in the 82nd Airborne Division named Patrick Murphy in 2003 during her first trip to Baghdad.

This is an endorsement that both camps have been working on, but Murphy decided to endorse Senator Obama.  This will come one houre before Obama addresses the VFW in Kansas City.

Today, Mr. Murphy is announcing his support for Senator Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential race. The endorsement, which has been in the works for a while, comes one hour before Mr. Obama speaks to hundreds of war veterans gathered here.

This announcement does come as Obama will attempt remind the audience you can be for the troops and against this war.

The well-timed announcement will be used as a reminder - which Mr. Obama hopes will work - that one can be supportive of military veterans and still be opposed to the war.

Mr. Murphy, 33, is the only member of Congress who served in combat in Iraq. He has played a prominent role in this year's Congressional debate over the war, delivering the closing argument over whether to set a timetable to withdraw troops from Iraq.


Tags: 2008 election, Barack Obama, Illinois, Patrick Murphy, Pennsylvania, president (all tags)



Congressman Endorses Obama

Murphy is in Obama's target demographic.  Is this really a shock?

by Vox Populi 2007-08-21 08:16AM | 0 recs
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It's about as much of a shock as Gov. Beebe endorsing Clinton.

by ctnewbie18 2007-08-21 08:22AM | 0 recs
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Well, there's the fact that Murphy is the only Iraq veteran in the US House.  It's noteworthy.  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-08-21 08:24AM | 0 recs
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Sorry for the double post.  

Is that supposed to say he's a Caucasian male or African American male?  I took that as African American male...

That isn't the case: ?id=152517

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-08-21 08:28AM | 0 recs
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Um, Patrick Murphy is a young, white male with limited political experience.  This is a pro-Obama demographic.

by Vox Populi 2007-08-21 08:48AM | 0 recs
limited political experience?

He is a elected federal office holder. I think that puts him in the top %1 of the population when measuring political experience.  

Or do you only count blogging hours.

by JoeCoaster 2007-08-21 10:30AM | 0 recs
Re: limited political experience?

Insider vs. Outsider.  Try to view the positive in my comments.  It means he's not a Washington hand, he's only run for one election, etc.

by Vox Populi 2007-08-21 11:32AM | 0 recs
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This endorsement is a bigger deal than some have suggested on this board.

From First Read - 007/08/21/325917.aspx

Murphy, 33, is an Iraq veteran and has been active in the debate on Iraq in Congress. The endorsement announcement comes a day after Clinton's glowing comments about Murphy yesterday during her address to the VFW convention and just hours before Obama addresses the VFW himself.

"I met Patrick Murphy, when he was a captain in the 82nd Airborne in Baghdad in 2003, when I was there on my first trip," Clinton said yesterday during her address. "We went to Sadr City, and we met with members of the 82nd, one of whom was this bright, young captain named Patrick Murphy. When he left the Army, he decided to continue his public service in another way -- he ran for and won a seat in Congress. So when I was thinking about what kind of bill of rights -- a GI Bill of Rights we needed for the 21st century, he was one of the first calls I made, because he had lived it.

She and Murphy co-sponsored the 21st Century GI Bill of Rights legislation in May. Today, Murphy said of Obama, "He's absolutely our best chance to change the direction of our country."

by CardBoard 2007-08-21 09:00AM | 0 recs
Patrick Murphy Endorses Obama

Murphy better pray that Obama wins. Because he just went "all-in" with his future support from the Democratic congressional leaders chips.

Generally speaking, when a high profile party poo-bah goes out of his (or her) way to bolster a freshman congressman's visibility on a major piece of legislation, there is an expectation that the rookie will not turn around and bite the hand that feeds him.

One of two things is going to happen. Either Hillary Clinton will be President or she will be a Democratic Senate poo-bah for longer than Patrick Murphy will be around.

by hwc 2007-08-21 09:17AM | 0 recs
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This is not the way we ought to do politics.  And what i like least about the Clinton.  You appoint the most capable people to leadership post not excluding the people that have not been with you in the past - this is "you either with us or against us" that we got with Bush.  It is bad for our nation, bad for our politic, and bad for our party.  The Clinton shakedown of the Democratic Party over the past few months has been extremely frustrating and shows no concern other than for themselves.

by CardBoard 2007-08-21 09:20AM | 0 recs
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No kidding.  "If you don't pick me out of a CROWDED primary, we're willing to lose your seat or overthrow you.  For the good of ourselves, not America.  Trust me, a grudge is more important than the future of this country."  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-08-21 09:23AM | 0 recs
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This is not the way we ought to do politics.

Be that as it may, that is the way politics are done. And that has been the way politics is done since the founding fathers sat down to write the Constitution, which itself was document crafted on the principle of "you scratch my back on this point, and I'll scratch yours on that one".

That's the basis of a democratic form of government. Nothing gets done without horse trading.

Now, maybe a young bright-eyed politician, two years removed from the statehouse, can change the very nature of the American democracy.

But, I doubt it.


I recommend going to C-SPAN and listening to some of the LBJ tapes sometime. Listen to some of the phone calls where he is arm twisting for the passage of the Civil Rights Bill. That breakthrough legislation was passed because LBJ threatened and bullied enough Democratic Senators to vote for it even though they didn't want to. Welcome to the major leagues.

by hwc 2007-08-21 10:09AM | 0 recs
listen to hwc...

the clintons have a long history of destroying democrats who don't abide by their wishes.  otoh, they aren't very good on the rewards side.  just ask marjorie margolis-mezvinsky.  no one's as vindictive as the clintons (eg, bush and mccain eventually teamed up -- i can't think of a similar example on the part of the clintons)...

by bored now 2007-08-21 10:52AM | 0 recs
Re: listen to hwc...

Well, it sort of worked out for Marjorie Margolis-Mezvinsky.

Her son is Chelsea's boyfriend.

by Nedsdag 2007-08-21 11:48AM | 0 recs
i did not know that...

very interesting.  i once got the opportunity to ask her if she thought clinton had done everything he could have to help her.  she shook her head no.  i never forgot that...

by bored now 2007-08-21 11:57AM | 0 recs
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If you read Team of Rivals another bright-eyed legislator with little experience did this in 1860 - and it worked out pretty well.

HWC is advocating politics as usual - and your right this is how the game is played.  But this is not how it has to be.  Pessimism is at the heard of your argument - and I hope that one day you will look past it to see what America can do and can be.

by CardBoard 2007-08-21 11:01AM | 0 recs
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Pessimism is at the heard of your argument

No it isn't. Not pessimistic at all. I love political backscratching. It's the foundation of our democracy and, in fact, every democracy.

I much prefer it to the alternatives: a king, a charismatic cult of personality despot, or a military dictatorship.

To decry political horsetrading is to reject bipartisan government. You give me this one that I need for my voters back home and I'll give you that one that you need for your voters. It's the essence of democracy and it's the been that way since the founding fathers hammered out a system of government signed off on by two regions of the country that share absolutely nothing in economic interests.

The reason that our goverment has become so polarized is that there hasn't been enough horsetrading.

by hwc 2007-08-21 11:35AM | 0 recs
well, if those are the only options...

i agree.  however, i'd hope that isn't the only way to organize a democracy...

by bored now 2007-08-21 11:51AM | 0 recs
Your List of Alternatives

Interesting hwc how you fail to list decisions made "based upon the merits" on your list of alternatives to political backscratching.  

One of the curious things I find with Clinton supporters is how it is all about "the game" as it is presently practiced to them.  There is almost a celebration of getting down into the mud, of the moral and ethical corruption of politics.

Life as pure, unadulterated self interest, mutual selfishness, and the "always has been always will be crap."  

There has never been a principled legislator, or piece of principled legislation passed on its merits?  Oh brother.

I suppose when you think about it, it make sense that a soldier who unselfishly put his own life on the line for country, would NOT join the Clinton camp.

by Demo37 2007-08-21 12:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Your List of Alternatives

Horsetrading is not ethical corrupt or getting down in the mud. Just the opposite. It's glorious.

It's how you take two people who disagree and figure out a way to craft a win-win negotiation. It's the ultimate expression of democracy.

What are we all praying that the Iraqis can do? Certainly, stability isn't going to come from the Sunnis and the Shi'a actually agreeing with each other. Rather, it can only come from two opposing sides saying, "OK, I'm willing to scratch your back on this one, if you'll scratch my back on that one."

That's how democracy works. Find areas of agreement and then horsetrade the rest of it. Take horsetrading (or "politics") out of the equation and democracy grinds to a screeching halt.

by hwc 2007-08-21 12:20PM | 0 recs

It is much more complex than simply saying "trading favors" is the ultimate expression of democracy.

Probably 90% of the legislation that is passed in government does not involve legislators trading favors.  Most of the time, a legislator supports legislation because it makes sense on the merits, or because the legislator's constituents favor the legislation.  This is particularly true when legislation has overwhelming support, or where the common ground is vast.  

There is no need to take horsetrading out of politics, but equally, there is no need to elevate it to the level of zenith.  As I see it, the zenith is properly occupied by decisions based upon the merits, and based upon what your constituents want.

by Demo37 2007-08-21 12:41PM | 0 recs
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A couple of things:

First, you commit (something like) the fallacy of equivocation by conflating different types of political bargaining. One the one hand, you are correct that laws and executive decisions often involve compromises and other kinds of value-exchange. To be sure, the rational justification of political institutions consists in cooperation for mutual advantage. However, this is (or should be) limited to actual state action--again, legislation and executive decisions/policy). What your original comment addressed, though, was Murphy's decision to personally endorse one of Clinton's competitors. In essence, you appear to claim that Clinton's personal favor to Murphy(inviting him to co-sponser high-profile legislation) should oblige Murphy to return a personal favor (endorsement of her candidacy). Personal bargaining like this is very different than political bargaining, from the perspective of political morality at least.

It's also different in another way. And endorsement is a persons public expression of support and enthusiasm for the candidate. A endorsement of Clinton based solely upon pressure to return a favor would be dishonest. Bargains that require dishonesty or other morally problematic conduct should be distinguished from the kind of cooperative efforts necessary to do the government's work.

Finally, I take issue with this claim of yours:

"I love political backscratching. It's the foundation of our democracy and, in fact, every democracy.

I much prefer it to the alternatives: a king, a charismatic cult of personality despot, or a military dictatorship."

Those are not the only alternatives. I'm not sure what you mean by "backscratching," but if you're referring to politically consequential personal favors by politicians, then I think you are ignoring a lot of feasible, preferable alternatives.

by DPW 2007-08-21 12:15PM | 0 recs
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Hey, you are probably upset that not every Democrat fall in line with votes that you favor.

What's the solution to that? Democratic leadership horsetrading (carrot and stick) for votes. Pelosi and Reid do it everytime a bill comes up. It's the American way.

I have no problem with Murphy endorsing whomever he chooses. I'm sure that he will have no problem when Clinton and the other congressional bigwigs pass out the chotskies to whomever they choose.

Of course, all of this begs the question. Did Obama write a check for Murhpy's endorsement like he has been trying to do in New Hampshire and Iowa? That would, I believe, be a very direct example of backscratching.

by hwc 2007-08-21 12:25PM | 0 recs
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First, you write:

Hey, you are probably upset that not every Democrat fall in line with votes that you favor.

Why in the world would you think this? Of course, like everyone, I have my views on what the government should do, but I also realize that (just) government consists in the adjudication of competing interests in a pluralistic society. So, I expect bargaining and compromise. However, the "goods" being bargains must be politically substantive. I can't give you $10,000 for your support of some legislation I propose, or something like that. Likewise, I object to "passing out chotskies" in exchange for dishonest personal endorsements.

As for your suggestion about Obama paying for the endorsement, I have no idea. It would be wrong if Murphy's decision to endorse is related to the personal financial benefits of doing so. I'm sure you'll say that everyone does it, but I still find it morally repugnant.

by DPW 2007-08-21 12:41PM | 0 recs
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They better be careful attacking a Iraq veteran in congress,

If they do, then  this will blow up in their face.

LBJ tactics don't work anymore the times have changed.

by BDM 2007-08-21 11:35AM | 0 recs
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Nobody is going to attack anyone. That's not the way it's done.

Murphy will just find himself at the back of the line when the chotskies are handed out. Being asked to introduce the President of the United States at a Pennsylvania fundraiser, etc.

by hwc 2007-08-21 11:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Patrick Murphy Endorses Obama

I think your full of shit and thinking you are an expert as to how this game is played. The new generation of politicians are not going to play this nonsense.

I have been around for a while also and knew HHH.

by BDM 2007-08-21 11:41AM | 0 recs
And that is why we need REAL CHANGE..

and that is not Hillary Rodham Clinton.

by Edna Howard 2007-08-21 03:00PM | 0 recs
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If she is a plurality president she will need all of the support she can get. I guarantee that he will run stronger in his district than she will in 2008

by BDM 2007-08-21 11:38AM | 0 recs
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Explain to me again how this make HRC the "change" candidate?

by whitbreadale 2007-08-22 12:48PM | 0 recs
there seems to be a certain element who believes..

that anyone who's not bush represents change.  of course, this means that republicans are candidates of change, too...

by bored now 2007-08-22 03:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Patrick Murphy Endorses Obama

Both sides have been working for Murphy's endorsement.  It's more a "He picked a hand" than "Biting the hand that feeds him".  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-08-21 09:22AM | 0 recs
i agree that the clintons are vindictive as can be

and i think you're right about young mr. murphy's future if hillary is elected president.  there could be many, many democrats sacrificed on the alter of her hillaryness should she ascend the oval office...

by bored now 2007-08-21 09:45AM | 0 recs
It's not the Clintons

It's every party leader poo-bah who has ever served in the House or Senate. Trust me, they all know the value of doing a favor for a rookie and they all know when a rookie bites the hand that feeds him.

Murphy just went all in.

by hwc 2007-08-21 10:14AM | 0 recs
he did, he believes in america...

just not the clinton's america...

by bored now 2007-08-21 10:49AM | 0 recs
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Obama needs more support here in PA, and Patrick Murphy is definitely one of our rising stars.

by Namtrix 2007-08-21 10:31AM | 0 recs
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Murphy is extremely young and even if Hillary were to be president , i do not see this terribly hurting his political career since he could always wait until the clintons are out of office and he would still be extremely young for a politician.

All he has to do is keep away from controversies and serve his constituency well...In 5 years , i can see him running for senate or governor in PA depending on how well he does.

He's a  young man with good looks that has a military record...He'll be extremely hard for the Clintons to put road blocks on his very promising career path.

by JaeHood 2007-08-21 12:07PM | 0 recs
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by BDM 2007-08-21 12:59PM | 0 recs
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I like Pat, have met him, have donated to him, and will again.   However...

Pat, you chose second best.

by Rooktoven 2007-08-21 01:35PM | 0 recs


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