Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Justin Paulette of AOL News Political-Machine wrote today that Michelle recently imparted the following gems of wisdom and revelation:


"We live in isolation, and because of that isolation we fear one another."

"Because Barack Obama is the only person in this race who understands that. That before we can work on the problems we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation."

"Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual; uninvolved, uninformed."

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Dear gentle myDD readers, are your souls broken?

Please come to Barack to get your souls fixed.

Thank you.


Tags: Bitter, fear one another, fix our souls, live in isolation, Michelle Obama, souls are broken, uninformed, uninvolved (all tags)

Comments

120 Comments

Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

God, I never thought about it that way. I must come to Him now to live in eternal unity forever!

by zcflint05 2008-04-14 12:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

 I`m to busy clinging to my guns to listen to Daffy Duck.
by gunner 2008-04-14 12:58PM | 0 recs
She's not the first person to say this..

Promoting isolation between people was a conscious decision on the part of the advertising industry.
It was around the same time as planned obsolescence and the intentional destruction of the mass transit system. I heard the whole story a few years ago from an editor of one of the slickest advertising magazines in the world. Industry in America was very concerned at the close of WWII that the wartime economy would revert into the economic doldrums of the late 1930s. In order to get people to buy, they had to be made unhappy with what they already had. In order to get them to buy cars (preferably every two or three years!) the functional mass transit systems that existed had to be destroyed. They were bought up by the car, oil and tire industries and allowed to fall apart, then the tracks were torn up. Now, as gas prices increase, many of these systems are, in a sense, being rebuilt at HUGE expense.

(The mass migration to the suburbs, which required everyone to have a car, is also being reversed as the well to do are returning to the reeviously abandoned central cities, driving up housing costs there.)

But back to the planned obsolescence. Basically the message was all about making people unhappy and dissatisfied and ashamed to admit it if they were poor, so they would buy more. So they would buy much, much more than they needed.

Things they had had to be made to age more rapidly. There was some committee that went around telling manufacturers to make goods in different tiers, with the cheapest ones designed to fall apart very quickly. Thats also when they invented style years in clothing and other areas. This is a VERY important, but relatively unknown part of our history.

Its a matter of historical record.. although it hasn't really been taught in schools..

by architek 2008-04-14 05:03PM | 0 recs
I found her speech.. and she wasn't actually

saying what I thought she was saying..

What she was saying was far less interesting.

Has anybody ever heard of this economist's work?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorstein_V eblen

he had some interesting things to say on why we do what we do.

by architek 2008-04-14 05:41PM | 0 recs
We find ourselves in agreement

For a change. :)

The destruction of mass transit hit my town, Minneapolis, quite hard.  We used to have trollies everywhere, now they're all gone and all we have is a single light rail to the Mall of America and a plan for another whose funding got vetoed by Tim Pawlenty.

Michelle Obama is going to have to get used to this; the same kind of people who hated Hillary Clinton from '92 on are going to keep coming after everything she says, no matter how conversationally or innocuously.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-15 06:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

In response to the unexpected excitement

This is from a speech she gave 2 months ago at UCLA....it is NOT in response to anything from the past week.

That aside...it does sound kinda creepy.
Though, I would imagine that what was said before and after in the speech would flesh out the meaning of her words.
Standalone, though, kinda creepy.

by Kysen 2008-04-14 01:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

oh man do we really have democrats trying to parse other democrats words?

seriously? wow.

I won't partake in this one there will be others to do that. its just sad. this game of one ups that both sides play

Shee Hillary is the bad American and Democrat NO SEE! Obama is the bad American and Democrat

oh no no no now you see its back on Hillary! oh wait thats before this Told you Obama is a bad democrat.

well you know what, Hillary and Barack are both fine democrats but they BOTH have supporters that some of you, if they had to defend you, no worries they would reject AND denounce some of you.

by TruthMatters 2008-04-14 12:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I have NO problems parsing Michelle Obama's words when she herself that she may not support Hillary if she wins the nomination, and then goes onto to tell us that the only way to get our souls healed is to vote for Barack Obama.

by zcflint05 2008-04-14 12:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

thats great as long as you take pride in what you do, you are only accountable to yourself.

I am just saying some people on this site would be surprised to find out that their candidates would turn from them in a split second with some of the stuff they say and post.

it what i do to try and keep myself in check. if even Barack Obama would turn away from what I am saying, maybe that is telling me something.

but thats just me and I don't speak for anyone else.

by TruthMatters 2008-04-14 12:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

You don't think that telling everyone that the only way to get your "soul saved" is by "coming to Obama"? If I wanted to go to church, then I'd go to a damn church. Her comments are incredibly pompous and rude, this entire campaign, like the comments I listed above as well as her now infamous "If she can't run her house, she can't run the White House", which was the trashiest thing I've ever seen said by a Democrat. I refuse to respect her--bottom line.

by zcflint05 2008-04-14 12:50PM | 0 recs
Did she say that?

as well as she wouldn't support HRC?

by Xanthe 2008-04-14 02:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

She didn't say that the only way to get your soul saved is by coming to Obama. She said "I am married to the only person in this race who has a chance of healing this nation." That's her opinion, but it has nothing to do with salvation.

Her comments about "broken" souls were brief and obviously metaphoric. She was talking about how government has turned its back on people and we have lost our sense of "mutual obligation" to one another. That's a sentiment I can completely get behind.

As for Justin Paulette's blog posting, how can he take something Michelle said 2 months ago and describe it as a response to something Obama said 1 week ago? That's not journalism, that's laziness.

by jdusek 2008-04-14 02:32PM | 0 recs
I don't think that's what she meant completely

Is there any place where her speech is online, or a transcript is online?

by architek 2008-04-14 05:34PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't think that's what she meant completely

Yes. A transcript of her full comments can be found here:

http://fedpapers.blogspot.com/2008/02/mi chelle-obamas-speech-ucla-two-weeks.html

She's doing the typical First Spouse speech, talking emotionally about her husband. I don't agree with everything she said, but I find nothing "creepy" about it either.

by jdusek 2008-04-14 05:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

TruthMatters,

I am still waiting to hear some truth on you somment that i am a hypocite??????

david

by giusd 2008-04-14 12:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

are we kidding?

which thread was it? what comment did you make?

ok I can tell you how you were a hypocrite, what did you say right before I called you a hypocrite again?

by TruthMatters 2008-04-14 01:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

You dont rememer saying this??? I said all the voters should be counted. It is called democracy.

Funny i remember what i write and when i call some one a hypocrte that is something i would rembmer.  But i guess for you Truth only matters to others????

You posted this on sunday!!!!  I don't remember seeing you say this is the thread yesterday calling for the Supes to just give the nomination to Hillary because he would never recover from this.

but one sec I will go back and look over and make sure I didn't miss it.

I don't want to accuse you of being hypocritical if you did say it when HRC supporters were calling for this to end.

because as you said you are for ALL voters getting a  say, not just Hillary's

Just admit you what you posted was false and you said you needed "one sec" but i guess you needed longer than that.

david

by giusd 2008-04-14 02:41PM | 0 recs
Whatever, dude
No parsing required.  That is just unbelievably arrogant.  She seems to suffer from delusions of grandeur--by proxy, a new diagnostic category.
'
Does B.O. share this kind of messianic identity?  I know many of his supporters have this tendency but does he?  I'm beginning to think that this is a legitmate question.
by Thaddeus 2008-04-14 01:22PM | 0 recs
Anyone can have

deep thoughts, even Mrs. Obama

by barnowl 2008-04-14 02:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

this is the party of complainers! obama is a complainer! michelle is the biggest complainer! this whole thing is embarrassing! The republicans are loving it!!

by tofriends 2008-04-14 12:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

And you're loving it too. Probably because you're a republican. I've just followed some of your comments, and it's pretty clear you're a (vaguely) undercover troll.

Don't worry. Nobody's fooled for long

by brit 2008-04-14 04:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I have heard her say this before and it makes my skin crawl. I do not want messianic messages and language in my presidential campaigns.

I do not have a broken soul and even if I did, I do not want my president to fix it. I would much rather she fix the givernment and stay away from my soul.

by americanincanada 2008-04-14 12:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I agree. This is creepy. And Barack is not our savior.

Our souls are not broken.

It's Washington, our government, that's broken and in need repair.

by NCDemAmy 2008-04-14 01:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Amen to that.

by Tolstoy 2008-04-14 02:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Wow... that is a little creepy.  It's the "He is the one" thing again.  And frankly if everyone can thump on Bill Clinton for what he says then Michelle is fair game too.

by JustJennifer 2008-04-14 12:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

The douchebag you link to doesn't have a clue. This speech was from a UCLA speech before Super Tuesday in February--not in response to bittergate. The full transcript can be found here (warning: it's a right-winger site, but those were the only sources I could find for it.)

http://fedpapers.blogspot.com/2008/02/mi chelle-obamas-speech-ucla-two-weeks.html

by DPW 2008-04-14 12:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

THANK YOU! At first I was bewildered, and really thought the Obama campaign had lost it. This would be the exact wrong thing to say today. Monumentally politically stupid.

But it happened two months ago.

It's still a little creepy though ...

by VAAlex 2008-04-14 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Well, I can see why folks would find it creepy, but I think that's a result of the apparent religiosity of the term "soul." Most people would resist the idea of the state "healing souls," however not too many would object to the government empowering individuals or fostering self-realization. Indeed, the concept of positive liberty, which features prominently in contemporary liberal political philosophy, unavoidably invokes metaphysical issues like self-realization the like.

In any case, the government has a legitimate interest in considering certain "metaphysical" matters. When politicians talk about personal responsibility, that has metaphysical implications (the nature of that responsibility depends upon how personal identity over time is understood); when governments act paternalistically, they are making judgments about which personal decisions reflect the higher-order interests of individuals (which depends upon judgments about interests of the "true self"). And, on the subject of public engagement, participation, truth in public institutions, etc., it is hard to dicuss such issues in purely materialistic terms.

That said, Michelle can be pretty heavy-handed when she wades into these waters. So, I would prefer a little more care when she appeals to these things. Also, she should avoid describing her husband as some kind of savior.

by DPW 2008-04-14 01:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Umm, no. The State does not have "a certain interest in metaphysical affairs." This is why we have seperation of church and state.

Regardless, it's not merely the religiousity that Michele imposes on us here, it's the idea that we are weak and damaged and Barack will be the Savior (Barack will never let you go back...").

BS. The American people are not weak and damaged. They are strong and of good will. It's Washington that is weak and damaged.

Speaking in condscending and patronizing terms about the American people is NOT going to win over votes.

by NCDemAmy 2008-04-14 01:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Not all metaphysics falls within the domain of religion. To be sure, many atheist philosophers like J. David Velleman, Derek Parfit, and Thomas Nagel have written important work in relation to metaphysisal problems in moral and political philosophy. Limitations on state authority should depend more on the ability to resolve a question through public justification than whether the question concerns an entire area of knowledge. The problem with state promotion of certain religious objectives has more to do with the fact that there isn't anyway to justify those objectives publicly (that is, religious claims inherently are answerable to objective evidence, whereas some metaphysical claims--about personal identity and agency, for instance--are probably capable of being discussed constructively on objective grounds).

by DPW 2008-04-14 07:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

that should say, "religious claims inherently are NOT answerable . . . "

by DPW 2008-04-14 08:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Well, actually, what I found more creepy was the general tone that if people would just come to Obama, everything would be OK. And they would never go back.

I actually really had no problem with the souls part personally, but I can see where it would offend people who did not believe in them.

by VAAlex 2008-04-14 02:09PM | 0 recs
The whole speech was 45 minutes long.

She spoke extemporaneously, or at least without notes.  The thrust of the speech was about how she met her husband, how they ended up getting together, and what her opinion of him is.  It was really in response to people who were saying 'what do we really know about them?'

Personally, I loved the speech.  She doesn't have her husbands rhetorical skills but more of a conversational style of speaking as she related her personal experiences.  I think you'll enjoy it.

by GFORD 2008-04-14 07:09PM | 0 recs
Re: The whole speech was 45 minutes long.

I didn't.

by VAAlex 2008-04-15 05:11AM | 0 recs
What you say may be true and you may

have done a service, but your sexist langauge is innaproriate.

Another young man for Obama who is afraid of women and their bodies.

I don't liek sexiss m or racism.  Clean up your language.

by TomP 2008-04-14 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: What you say may be true and you may

You call me sexist for using "douchebag" (which at least one feminist defends), yet you don't hesitate to presume my age and offer broadly generalized insults about Obama supporters. Classy.

by DPW 2008-04-14 01:23PM | 0 recs
Yes, you are sexist for using it.

Attacking me will not change the fact of your sexism.

If you are not young, then you really have no excuse at all.

by TomP 2008-04-14 02:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, you are sexist for using it.

Point taken for douchebag, though the diary is rubbish. But what about trolling some of the sexist comments here about Michelle? Oh, and the constant praising of Cindy McCain in her place. Is this a democratic blog at all.

I'll defend HRC from any sexist comment, but I think the same level of generosity should be extended to Michelle, don't you think?

by brit 2008-04-14 05:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, you are sexist for using it.

I should probably just let this go, but I notice that you gave me a 0 rating for, presumably, my use of the term "douchebag." I confess that I've never heard any objection to the term on the basis of sexism. I've since looked into it, and it turns out my former law professor Ann Bartow has an interesting post on the topic here (you'll need to scroll down to get to the relevant portion). So, now I'm at least familiar with the possibility of offense in connection with the term, although I think offense requires a little hypersensitivity.

In any case, according to the word's conventional use and meaning as an insult, as far as I'm aware, it translates roughly as "jackass" and doesn't express any attitude about women generally. To be sure, one could honestly dislike the term on feminist grounds, as the above link explains, but I really can't imagine anyone feeling seriously offended by it without substantial effort.

All that being said, I thought I'd make a small appeal for mercy. That is to say, given the absence of any malice on my part, I thought you might consider removing the 0 rating, and I'll be careful to use a more gender-sensitive term of disparagement next time I feel the need (which is rare, as my commenting history should reflect).  

P.S.
For some nice irony, here's a link of a feminist blogger actually referring to some men as "sexist douchebags."

by DPW 2008-04-14 06:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, you are sexist for using it.

Point ably made and willingly taken. Douchebag always seems to conjure up a particular image to me, which I always thought had to do with female cleanliness. I part reacted to that, and was still seething at a really offensive comment made at Michelle lower down the thread. Not sure why I gave you a 0 though. I think I read (in my haste) that the douchebag referred to Michelle. Maybe a slip of the old side arrow.

Thanks for taking the time to explain the term to me, and doing it with grace and courtesy. Hide rating removed.

by brit 2008-04-14 06:44PM | 0 recs
Just trying to be helpful

I didn't see your original comment (must be hidden) so I don't know who your insult was aimed at or if it was justified but if you are at a loss for a gender neutral insult, my personal favorite is 'asshat'.

by GFORD 2008-04-14 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Just trying to be helpful

It's weird that you recommend "asshat." During my quick research on the sexist implications of the term "douchebag," I saw this strange, but funny post. Scroll down to the comment by soultrance, and you'll see that he proposes replacing the word "douchebag" with "asshat."

In any case, I'm now realizing that just about all the terms that I use to derogate are sexually loaded to some extent. All the good ones, anyway. I grew up around lots of rednecks in South Carolina (I'm using redneck in a slightly positive way, before someone calls me an elitist; and, I love South Carolina very much.), so my sensitivity training started pretty late in life.

I do remember Dick Butkis calling someone "petercheese" in Hamburger: The Movie (terrible movie, by the way). It's not gender-nuetral, and kinda disgusting, but I don't think anyone will complain on sexist grounds. Of course, maybe another part of my problem is the fact that I lift language from low-brow sex comedies in the 80s like Porky's, etc.

by DPW 2008-04-14 09:02PM | 0 recs
If a Republican said

"our souls were broken" and suggested their candidate could heal them, there's be a collective anneurism here and and as DKOS. Really, this is about as creepy as the Thrill running up Tweety's leg or Obama "Touching" Harris Wofford's soul.

by Mayor McCheese 2008-04-14 12:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I'll sell Michelle Obama my soul for $5.

by joeltpatterson 2008-04-14 12:49PM | 0 recs
Clearly there are many broken souls

here and in the world.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-14 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Clearly there are many broken souls

And the only way for those souls to be healed again is to come to Jesus, uh, I mean, Saint Obama.

by zcflint05 2008-04-14 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Clearly there are many broken souls

Certainly not the only way.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-14 12:59PM | 0 recs
Anytime someone says ....

{fill in the blank} "is the only person who understands (or can fix, or can feel or can relate)"
 ....

My 'bs'ometer' goes off the charts.

Add to that anyone who tells the nation as a whole that 'our souls are broken' or 'we have to fix our souls', I get the distinct whiff of the foul odor of Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, McClurkin and the like.

Shiver me timbers matey, now we're really being shanghied.

by emsprater 2008-04-14 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I'm a Obama supporter but Michelle Obama, can be a bit of a loose mouth. I'm not convinced by her.

by Cristalgirl 2008-04-14 12:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Just another bizarre and just plain ridiculous comment to add to Mrs. Obama's repitore...like I've said before, she's worse than Teresa Heinz-Krazy.

by zcflint05 2008-04-14 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Watching her next to Cindy McCain is like day & night.

One thing is for sure. She will NOT be an asset in the general election.

Comes out way to rough, Way to dominating.

Unless she was the one running for President, someone should put her in her place.

She has so much personal issues especially against white america.

Her Princeton thesis says it all.

by latinfighter 2008-04-14 12:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Oh yes the drug-thief mistress next to the educated executive is really going to be a tough one.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-14 01:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I concur wholeheartely. Cindy McCain would be caught dead saying trashy things like Mrs. Obama does in the public sphere.

by zcflint05 2008-04-14 01:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Another pro McCain troll. My you're busy here these days. You must think you're oh so clever stirring the pot on MYDD. But I have news for you my friend: this nomination is going to be sewn up soon, and Mr McCain is going to be taking the straight talk express to nowhere.

Enjoy your time in the cave. It won't last for long

by brit 2008-04-14 05:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

You're a Hillary supporter, yet you're calling Michelle Obama "rough" and "dominating"? I'm not crazy about Michelle either, but that's the same sort of crap the GOP's been throwing at Hillary for years. Many of their sexist attacks are based on the idea that she's "manly" and "aggressive" (or a bitch, as it were).

I don't know exactly what, "Someone should put her in her place," means, but it comes across as either sexist or racist. Maybe a bit of both.

by sricki 2008-04-14 05:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I want to point out that if someone, ANYONE said that HRC should be put in her place, even about something that could possibly be true, like her trying to take credit for the peace in Northern Ireland, or whatever, you fake feminists that support Clinton would be fucking freaking out.. AGAIN.

I guess when its someone you don't like sexism is okay, right?

Anyone that gives him mojo for this (Hurdy Gurdy) needs to never EVER pretend that you are taking offense to something that was supposedly sexist towards Clinton.

by Darknesse 2008-04-14 05:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Girl - LEARN FROM HISPANICS!

Listen Girl,

The souls of Hispanics are also broken.

That's why we are supporting Hillary Clinton.

We even picked Hillary Clinton over our very own Bill Richardson.

Sorry Michelle, No Speech, No $200 Million fundraising will convince latinos & working class whites to support you & your hubby in November.

This Nov. 2008 will be the most devastating democratic loss since 1988.

Your husband should not have been the frontrunner in the 1st place.

Hispanics vote based on who is most qualified. We do not care if she happens to be a white non-hispanic.

Lets be Non-PC for one second.

If the unprecendented 9 out of 10 blacks did not vote for your husband, it would have been Clinton vs. Edwards today.

In reverse, if white voters had the same mentality of voting based on skin color, Clinton or Edwards would be the nominee today.

Latinos don't play that game.

We go for the most qualified candidate regardless of race. We are a mature & confident group of voters.

by latinfighter 2008-04-14 12:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Girl - LEARN FROM HISPANICS!

lol

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-14 01:02PM | 0 recs
You are a bitter one, I fear
and very different from hispanics in my neck of the woods,
Please tell me how HRC has benefited you, been honest with you.
Why, exactly, does she deserve your vote?
by barnowl 2008-04-14 02:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Girl - LEARN FROM HISPANICS!

I also want to point out that if someone, ANYONE called HRC "Girl" you fake feminists that support Clinton would be fucking freaking out.

I guess when its someone you don't like sexism is okay, right?

Everyone that gave him mojo for this (The Walrus, zcflint05, emsprater, msharp, Hurdy Gurdy) all need to never EVER pretend that you are taking offense to something that was supposedly sexist towards Clinton.

by Darknesse 2008-04-14 05:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Girl - LEARN FROM HISPANICS!

Hold on...

Run that by me again:

If the unprecendented 9 out of 10 blacks did not vote for your husband, it would have been Clinton vs. Edwards today.

In reverse, if white voters had the same mentality of voting based on skin color, Clinton or Edwards would be the nominee today.

Latinos don't play that game.

Latinos don't play what game?

So black people will only vote for black candidate. And lots white people will vote for a black candidate... and... Latinos won't play that game.

Sounds to me that what what you're really saying is that Latinos won't vote for a black candidate. Not the first time I've heard this of course, and it's not completely true. But if there are latinos who won't vote for Obama, BECAUSE he's a black candidate, well we know what that is: racism

by brit 2008-04-14 06:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Diarist,

You are morally bankrupt when you can take anything that comes out of that woman's mouth, or her husband's, and turn it into a negative. Your soul is indeed broken.

by lizardbox 2008-04-14 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

So you're saying that, "I don't know if I could support her if she won the nomination" in reference to Hillary Clinton, or the big whopper, "If you can't run your house, you can't run the White House" (funny when she seems to be using more GOP talking points than Cindy McCain-Hensley)don't have any negative connotation at all? Sorry, Michelle Obama does not deserve any respect whatsoever, no matter what political party she is apart of.

by zcflint05 2008-04-14 12:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Whatever your opinion of those comments, it still doesn't justify your sentiment about what she is quoted to have said in your diary. This here diary is a bit Hillaryis44-ish if you ask me. It's about labels. Once you've labeled someone anti-Clinton, all is fair game, when in reality it's not.

This is no attempt to defend Michelle Obama whom I find to be one hell of an individual, but rather a plea for you to snap the hell out of it and stop blindly attacking fellow Democrats.

by lizardbox 2008-04-14 01:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Oh, so "If she can't run her house, she can't run the White House" is not a blind attack on a Democrat? Straight from the horses mouth. If that was Cindy McCain saying those words you would have jumped her in 10 seconds, but since it's Michelle Obama, she gets a pass. I refuse--fellow Democrats don't say they "may not support her if she wins the nomination" or "if she can't run her house, she can't run the White House". Mrs. Obama is about as classy as my toilet.

by zcflint05 2008-04-14 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Trolled for a number of reasons

1) Offensive language

  1. Sexist language
  2. Republican

You really can't contain your pro McCain feeling can you? God, you must be dim as a 9 watt bulb.

If that was Cindy McCain saying those words you would have jumped her in 10 seconds, but since it's Michelle Obama, she gets a pass.

Wake up Troll. You're drooling in your sleep. This is DEMOCRATIC BLOG remember? You're supposed to undercover. This isn't RED STATE

If you're the best they can send then the Dems are in a great shape for the fall.

Back to your cave now.

by brit 2008-04-14 05:07PM | 0 recs
What a disgusting comment.

I think you took the wrong exit on the turnpike - Free Republic is over there, just slightly to the right.

by MBNYC 2008-04-14 05:50PM | 0 recs
What? They are infallible?

THIS is really scary.

by Thaddeus 2008-04-14 01:25PM | 0 recs
Re: What? They are infallible?

No, not at all. But calling them out on things that normally we as democrats would defend them on is at the core of my comment. If you cannot work around that premise, go bother someone else.

by lizardbox 2008-04-14 01:28PM | 0 recs
Re: What? They are infallible?

Since when did Democrats defend elitism?
Since when did Democrats defend arrogance?

What exactly do you think you are selling?

Obama is being packaged as an atheist's Jesus or something who is gonna save our souls...

by DTaylor 2008-04-14 01:59PM | 0 recs
Re: What? They are infallible?

Coffee table.

by lizardbox 2008-04-14 03:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

No turning needed.  They own their negatives.

by Tolstoy 2008-04-14 02:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

As DPW pointed out above, this was a comment NOT made recently, but in fact two months above.

Again, this was NOT a comment made by Michelle in defense of Obama's comment over the weekend.

http://fedpapers.blogspot.com/2008/02/mi chelle-obamas-speech-ucla-two-weeks.html

Notice the Feb. 16th. This guy really should not be writing blog entries and concocting false outrage.

THIS is the definition of a manufactured controversy!

It's still a little creepy though.

by VAAlex 2008-04-14 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I should clarify -- 'the guy' I refer to is the original writer on the AOL site, not the writer of this diary.

by VAAlex 2008-04-14 12:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken
I'd be interested in knowing where and when she said that since the writer didn't give any links or info.  Did you read his other posts? They are all very anti-Obama and I saw a pro Bush.  

I don't see any problem with her making such a poetic remark, though, and don't see how anyone could. However I don't really like the line about never allowing us to go back to our lives as usual. That sounds a little odd and unlike her. Again when and where was this?

by Becky G 2008-04-14 12:56PM | 0 recs
My soul can't be broken

After all I am clinging to my religion out of fear because I am so bitter.

by Mayor McCheese 2008-04-14 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

This wasn't in response to Obama's comments in PA.  The comments you link to are from a speech given in UCLA 2 weeks ago.  The writer that you cited didn't even bother getting his facts straight before he wrote that "article."

The piece also takes all of the quotes incredibly out of context.  When she speaks of isolation, she's not speaking geographically.  She's calling on the nation to heal itself and saying that Obama understands the problems we face.  She's not saying that Obama is going to spiritually heal anyone.

This diary, along with the article, is pure spin and it doesn't even try to keep the facts straight.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-04-14 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

My lord,

First, we have to excuse & defend Barack.

Now, we have to excuse & defend Michelle.

Who the hell cares when she said it. Two months ago, two days ago.

America ain't going to vote for a first lady like Michelle.

This woman has so many hang-ups & issues about white america & racism.

" For the first time in the my adult life, I can truly say that I am proud to be an american".

by latinfighter 2008-04-14 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Thanks Hannity.

by lizardbox 2008-04-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Haha 2 months, not two weeks.  Preview, THEN post. :)

by thatpurplestuff 2008-04-14 01:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Sending this from blkberry in airport can't open link.  Is this for real?  Did she really say that?  It sounds like she thinks hubby is JC himself:  he's the only ONE who can save us from our souls, ourselves, and each other?  Yikes, that is scary.

by TexasDarlin 2008-04-14 01:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

If you're on your blackberry, you might have missed the outright sexist comments directed at Michelle. I trust you'll get back online and counter them fully, just as I have sexist comments about Hillary. We may support different candidates, but I HOPE you'll agree this kind of vitriol is inappropriate for any woman.

The diary is weak and months out of date, but I've no problem with it. Just check out some of these comments, and see where sexism really lies

by brit 2008-04-14 05:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I'd hold my breath and wait for a correction of this factually challenged diary, but I don't think I'd be long for this earth.  This is cherry picking twice removed, considering the original author of the piece was less concerned about facts than he was about nailing Obama.

Once again, who needs facts/context when it would ruin a great hit piece?

by thatpurplestuff 2008-04-14 01:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Oh Yes, no doubt like when she said she was "for the first time, proud of our country".  Nice

Or maybe, her example of when she said in South Carolina (interjecting a funny voice) I want to pull [Bill] eyes out (fingers clawing in the air).

Auh yes, first rate "First Lady" material to me.

by environmentally blue 2008-04-14 01:18PM | 0 recs
When was this?
It doesn't sound like her at all.
Hit and run.
Hit and run.
No context and no verification.
I call BS.
by barnowl 2008-04-14 03:03PM | 0 recs
Re: When was this?

New Yorker article:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/ 03/10/080310fa_fact_collins

But her pride visibly chafes at being asked to subsume her personality, to make herself seem duller and less independent than she is, even in the service of getting her husband elected President of the United States. In Wisconsin, I asked her if she was offended by Bill Clinton's use of the phrase "fairy tale" to describe her husband's characterization of his position on the Iraq War. At first, Obama responded with a curt "No." But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. "I want to rip his eyes out!" she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. "Kidding!" Obama said. "See, this is what gets me into trouble."

and other gems:


Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we're a divided country, we're a country that is "just downright mean," we are "guided by fear," we're a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.  


The self-assurance that colors Obama's assumption that her personal feelings are some bellwether of American achievement is also palpable in her forceful declarations that her husband is the only person who can solve the country's problems. "I tell people I am married to the answer," she said, in a speech in Harlem. "The man . . . who I am willing to sacrifice," she called her husband, in Iowa. In November, on MSNBC: "Black voters will wake up and get it." There is a hectoring, buy-one-while-supplies-last quality to Obama's frequent admonitions that Americans will have only one chance to elect her husband President.

by colebiancardi 2008-04-14 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

I dislike Michelle, but the "I want to rip his eyes out" thing was clearly a joke.

by sricki 2008-04-14 05:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Oh my God!  She didn't really say that!  

"I am not bitter" has to be replaced by "I am not broken" but thanks anyway, Michelle, for trying to save me.

The arrogance is phenomenal!  And they say Hillary has to quiet HER spouse?  

Jimmy Carter was buried for his malaise comment.  What is a reasonable media response to this?  

by Thaddeus 2008-04-14 01:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

"What is a reasonable media response to this?"

Well considering that this happened 2 months ago, I think it's fair to say that we've already seen the media response to this.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-04-14 01:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

This is sick... I actually heard this speech and it was taken totally out of context.

Um I personally think the soul of this country is broken.  We are the richest country on earth, yet people go hungry... people die because they can't afford health care...  we send (mostly poor) young men and women to kill and die without thinking it through.

Are we progressives or not?

by CaptMorgan 2008-04-14 01:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

do you believe that Obama is the savior of our souls and will deliver us?

gee, a lot of conservatives thought that of GWB and we proud democratics MOCKED them.

my god.  No politician is worth this.

by colebiancardi 2008-04-14 04:13PM | 0 recs
Wait.
Wait Wait Wait.
I thought Hillary was Jesus...Richardson as Judas...
Gosh, now I am confused.
by Newcomer 2008-04-14 01:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Oh by the way last Friday our President admitted he was aware of how his minions were discussing torture..and approved...

and this statement from 2 months ago bugs you?

Get a fucking grip people!

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/

by nogo war 2008-04-14 01:25PM | 0 recs
I don't care WHEN she said it

it deserves more attention.  And I don't care about the "soul" part--spare me the metaphysics analysis.  
It's the idea that B.O. "will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."  I mean, excuse me--that is just amazingly grandiose and arrogant--all in one sentence.

That's creepy.

by Thaddeus 2008-04-14 01:28PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't care WHEN she said it

She is talking about Barack Obama motivating people to vote for him, and she is specifically talking about his supporters.  I'm not sure if you're deliberately misconstruing what she said or if you just haven't read the full quote.  She's not saying "Barack is going to make you do these things" she's saying that he will motivate his supporters to do these things because he does a great job of getting people involved.  If you really can't see the difference there, then I can't help you.

"We get change because folks from the grass roots up decide they are sick and tired of other people telling them how their lives will be. When they decide to roll up their sleeves and work. And Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your division. That you come out of your isolation. That you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual; uninvolved, uninformed."

by thatpurplestuff 2008-04-14 01:34PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't care WHEN she said it

I see the context and you're right--you can't "help" me."  It still reads as grandiose and self-important.

But then again, your statement that if I don't see the light now, you can't "help" me repeats the same kind of arrogant tone so I can see why you might not be open to a debate about the significance of her statement.

by Thaddeus 2008-04-14 08:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Keep it up.  You are going to get the government you deserve.  

by LarsThorwald 2008-04-14 01:28PM | 0 recs
Thanks. I sure hope so.

by Thaddeus 2008-04-14 01:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

by LarsThorwald 2008-04-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
Torture

Yes. I back impeachment proceedings and the issue is much more important, but given that we are in a primary race, and there is a question about elitism and arrogance in the Obama campaign, I think we should get a grip on the subjective identities of the Obamas NOW.

by Thaddeus 2008-04-14 01:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Oh jeez!  First I'm bitter.  Now my soul is broken?  What's next, I'm unpatriotic because I'm not in the cult?  Are they gonna be opening up a soul repair shop there in the OEOB?  Will it be run by the creationists that Obama committed to working with last night?

I'm too busy cleaning my guns, readin' my bible and being bitter to get around to gettin' my soul repaired.  I'll just have to hope I can get it out of the pawn shop when Hillary becomes Prez.

'Till then I guess I'll just have to be bitter.

by TxDem08 2008-04-14 01:44PM | 0 recs
Re: All I want to know is .....

All I want to know is......

Who do we kick out of the democratic party when Obama losses by a landslide in November ?

We as a party cannot have this "  Liberal fantasy" every 15- 20 years.

McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis should have been enough lessons for everybody.

Today, we got so many young people who  were either  a infant or in grammar  school
when Mondale and Dukakis were humiliated.

Obama's lost in November will be in the magnitude of Dukakis. Heads will have to roll.

by latinfighter 2008-04-14 01:58PM | 0 recs
Re: All I want to know is .....

Bullshit.  Everyone that voted for Kerry will vote for Obama.. add in his new voters and he wins

by CaptMorgan 2008-04-14 02:14PM | 0 recs
Re: All I want to know is .....

I agree the 24% who say they will never vote for him under any condition are just bitter.

their souls are broken

They just don't realize that no matter what they think or feel they will vote for Obama in November.

They must be low information voters who haven't yet been informed how they will vote...

by DTaylor 2008-04-14 02:27PM | 0 recs
Re: All I want to know is .....

Wrong.  Not everyone who voted for Kerry is voting for Obama.  IF Obama wins the nomination, there will be many who will still not vote for him, but write in Hillary.

Obama can't win the rural vote, can't win the big states, and can't win against McSame.

by TxDem08 2008-04-14 03:46PM | 0 recs
Re: All I want to know is .....

We would be good to start with Howard Dean, Donna Brazile and go from there.

by TxDem08 2008-04-14 03:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Pass out the Kool-ade.

by johnnygunn 2008-04-14 01:56PM | 0 recs
oh my

too bad.  This is a little strange and messianic.  So she says first, "I'm proud to be an American for the first time in my life", and then, "vote for Barack to heal your souls"?

No wonder she has actually not been in the spotlight for months.

This is truly dangerous and undermines all of what Obama says.

by 4justice 2008-04-14 01:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Indeed some people think everything is fine in America. We dont need to fix a thing. The souls of Americans are fine we just elected Bush TWICE.

Some of you people need to get real, this is serious. His wife loves him deal with it. Bill loves his wife too. We have real issues here  its not a chance for your childish back and forth. You dont prove a damn thing to anybody with these games other than your own inability to focus on serious things.

by edtastic 2008-04-14 02:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Most people don't think everything is fine in America. Thing is, Obama's campaign has pushed these same talking points throughout, 'change' 'hope', etc. These aren't serious things, these aren't answers to real problems. This is a campaign strategy, the one embraced by Obama and his campaign. This is what you get, they took it too far and it's being mocked.

by msharp 2008-04-14 02:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

My soul and spirit are just fine.
American's soul is fine.  American will make real progress with Bush is out of office.
Obama is NOT second coming of the Christ.

Beware of false prophets.

by stefystef 2008-04-14 02:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Michelle is not channeling Jewel.

She's saying there's something wrong in this country when our government turns its back on the people it's supposed to protect.

I don't even believe in "souls" and I have no problem with what she said.

by jdusek 2008-04-14 02:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

And therein lies the problem.  I entered this campaign grossly undecided and hoping for Gore.  I was turned off to Obama once I looked at his campaign and his followers.  I'm not looking for a Messiah, and people who are scare the crap out of me.

by dhonig 2008-04-14 04:49PM | 0 recs
Michelle really is very laughable.

My soul isn't broken and voting for her husband couldn't repair it even if it was. Her opinion of her husband and herself is far too high for my tastes.

She need a reality check because she, like her husband, is out of touch.

by LatinoVoter 2008-04-14 05:19PM | 0 recs
Geeze Louise Michelle,

Just one more thing wrong with us church totin', gun clinging, racist, free trade hatin', country folk.  Now our souls are broken.  Go tell it to some millionaires, would ya.

by Scotch 2008-04-14 05:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

yeah, that's me, all right. another uninvolved, uninformed voter. for somebody with an inferiority complex, she sure does look down her nose at people a lot.

by campskunk 2008-04-14 06:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Let me say, first of all, that I intensely dislike Michelle Obama. It will take me a long, long time to get over, "How can you run the White House when you can't run your own house?" That sort of low blow, intimately personal attack against another woman -- especially a Senator -- isn't excusable, in my opinion.

However, as disinclined as I am to defend her, I have to admit, this diary is unfair. Her remarks are taken out of context. She's advocating for her husband, and she probably got carried away. Bill does it when he talks about Hillary, too. They're both passionate spouses who've said things they shouldn't have. If we were picking our candidates based on their spouses, I wouldn't have chosen Hillary (sorry, Bill fans), so I don't see how any of this is relevant. Using Michelle to attack her husband is pretty stupid and pointless.

That said, her comments are a little creepy. Especially, "Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual; uninvolved, uninformed." But maybe she said something before that which would have made it make more sense.

by sricki 2008-04-14 06:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

Whose using her to attack her husband?  This is a direct reflection on her.  She is in a category of her own when it comes to putting out strange utterances.

by Scotch 2008-04-14 06:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama: Our Souls are Broken

If Barack Obama weren't running for president, no one would care what Michelle Obama had to say. Thus, I assume this diary is pointing out some of her more... unusual remarks in the hopes that they'll reflect badly on her husband.

Yes, those are very strange utterances. For one thing, I'm not all that sure people have souls, so I'm pretty doubtful that they're "broken". And I definitely don't want any politician (or friend, or parent, or preacher, or anyone else) to try to "heal" me. And if I want to be "uninvolved" or whatever else, Obama isn't going to stop me. Still, this diary is pretty pointless in the scheme of things.

by sricki 2008-04-14 06:32PM | 0 recs
I've seen it in context

It really IS just as creepy.

by Thaddeus 2008-04-14 08:06PM | 0 recs

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