Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Kos has done more damage to the democratic party than any individual
in this primary season.

Like Leiberman, if he doesn't get his way, he will do or say anything.
He doesn't care who gets hurt in the process.

Kos candidate lost key states.  Kos will get even.
Even if it drives a wedge between the democratic party and their black
constituents - that could cripple us in the general election.
Unless Kos candidate, Obama is elected, of course.

I want to start with the most important bit of news.

"The independent website "factcheck.org" analyzed claims by Daily Kos,
that Hillary Clinton's camp had darkened Obama's picture, or video, in order
to make him 'blacker", and determined the claims are "unsubstantiated"."
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/ did_clinton_darken_obamas_skin.html

Now the worst bit of news:

Yesterday, I was on the subway to work.  An elderly black man was reading
Murdoch's tabloid, NY Post.  He turned to a page with 2 photos similar to
photos in a Daily Kos recommended Diary:
"March 5, 2008 -- A prominent left-wing Web site is questioning whether Hillary
Rodham Clinton's campaign is playing the race card - by darkening the tone of
 Barack Obama's skin in a new TV attack ad."

Propaganda from dKos is so useful to Republicans, that Murdoch is
giving it wings.

I was so irritated, I tapped the old gentleman on the shoulder and began ranting.  He chuckled politely and continued reading.

Kos was pleased with the race baiting diary. He used it as base for a prominent feature article, "Obama "blacker" ad no accident."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/5/1 4345/50395/126/469746

As I stated in an early diary, I work in video and there are any number of technical reasons for the darkness and horizontal stretch.  Formats are all over the place now, and changing from one format to another, can cause dramatic change- the stretch could be compensation by a less experienced artist- or simply designer aesthetic call to fill out the area.

The OBVIOUS reason the stretch wasn't a conspiracy is  that it is actually FLATTERING.   It gives Obama's face maturity and symmetry.  He looks "Hollywood handsome."  If the reverse process had occured, Kos would complain that Hillary made him look like a 17 year old wuss.

Desaturation is standard for enhancing bad video to give it a film quality, as is
enriching the blacks.  The quality of the shot is 100% improved in what Kos
claims to be "the Clinton" version.

The best response to Kos turned up late yesterday:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis cuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum= 132&topic_id=4919262&mesg_id=491 9262

Today, there is a diary in Daily kos about the Factcheck conclusion.  
Of course, the diary  is disingenous and weakly reports the Factheck
response.  It is immeidately refuted by the usual Kos sycophants, using
a strong negative response followed by a sockpuppet staircase
so that differing opinions get lost way down below.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3 /6/02123/27986/649/470232

If HRC is our candidate, Kos is doing his best to see that black people will
either not vote, or will vote for McCain.

Tags: Daily Kos, FACT CHECK, murdoch, NY Post, obama, Race Baiting (all tags)

Comments

66 Comments

Kos is a S.O.B! I'm so sick

of his crap. hopefully noone else pays attention to this nonsense.

by rigsoHC 2008-03-06 07:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting makes NY Post

agree 100% with you.

kos is being a jerk

by zane 2008-03-06 07:47AM | 0 recs
Kos stated his preference early on,

justified it, and has done his damndest to call the race as it is, unlike the goalpost-moving Jerome.

The doctoring accusation is a serious charge, but the evidence is solid.  "Formats are all over the place" is an incredibly week defence.  There was no reason for the picture to look like that.  One glance and you can tell it's not right.  And it's on (or was on) Hillary's website.  We haven't heard the end of this.

The fact that the Murdoch press may have picked up on this doesn't diminish it's credibility if the story came from Kos originally.

by corph 2008-03-06 10:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting makes NY Post

Did you even read the fact check? The whole thing is darkened, which it's typical of ALL attack ads. Stop playing the race card.

by grlpatriot 2008-03-06 07:50AM | 0 recs
desperation is seeping into the collective

over at Borg central....

by Rumarhazzit 2008-03-06 07:53AM | 0 recs
Heh heh

Considering how they were treating me on the last day I spent there, and how I'm sure they continue to treat other Hillary fans who are still there, I can't help but gloat to hear you say that.  The vitriol is probably getting even more venomous.

by Montague 2008-03-06 08:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Heh heh

Looks like I'm not alone :). I'm glad I left Kos for good.

by devil 2008-03-06 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Heh heh

Yes - I joined DKos in 2004 and it was my home on the web for a long time. Now on the rare times I go there I end up mad and getting into a food fight. The last time I was called a shill and I called someone insane. I think it is time that I resolved never to go back....

by georgiast 2008-03-06 09:46AM | 0 recs
It was disgusting

as soon as the primaries are over and I don't feel compelled to go over there to put a check on the Big Orange Obamafiles, I am out of there.

by linc 2008-03-06 07:54AM | 0 recs
Re: It was disgusting

Bully for you for sticking it out.  I had to go.  Actually, in some ways, I'd love to go back to support y'all, but have to stick to what I said or you know how they would chortle.  Yeesh.

by Montague 2008-03-06 08:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting makes NY Post

Did you not have enough toys to play with as a child. We really need health care so you can get some counseling.
by gunner 2008-03-06 07:57AM | 0 recs
Re: RNC = Daily Kos?

I can't tell the difference between the Republican National Committee's website and Daily kos anymore.  It's the same clinton bashing 24/7.  

by karajan72 2008-03-06 08:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Try reading the diary, and then commentig

Sorry, I don't take the word of Factcheck - another website - as gospel on this one.  And why should we?

by Cycloptichorn 2008-03-06 08:08AM | 0 recs
factcheck.org is more reliable than Markos

by Montague 2008-03-06 08:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Try reading the diary, and then commentig

The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania.

http://www.factcheck.org/about/

Factcheck.org is one of my favorite fact check sites.  They don't seem too one sided - they criticize all of the candidates. My main problem with them is that they I don't think they cover enough stories, or update frequently enough.  I usually try to post their link whenever I see a comment that uses the candidates own fact check site - although why anyone would do their fact checking at the candidates or their opponents website, I have no idea.  Kind of like the fox guarding the henhouse.

by AnnC 2008-03-06 09:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting makes NY Post

I think it is really sad to see what Kos has become and what he has done to his site. Yesterday, most of the comments were the typical group think that Kos has nutured, but there were a small number of critical comments too (LINK. Like:

Let me see if I have this straight. (19+ / 0-)

So some self-proclaimed experts are comparing an internet clip from a televised debate with an internet clip of a TV ad, and the only conclusion is that the Clinton team obviously and intentionally doctored the clip to make Obama appear more black.

Right?

And this proves that the Clintons are racist and are trying to win the Democratic primaries by appealing to the KKK vote?

Right?

And you're all going to stay at home in November if she wins because you don't want to be complicit in that kind of racism?

Sometimes you just have to laugh.

................

Thank you so much Angry Mouse (5+ / 0-)

Honestly I thought I was the only one who felt this whole thing was ridiculous. I was actually quite saddened by all of this, as it illustrates the dramatic shift in DKos from 2006 to now. Gone is the DKos of old which touted its reality-based community, journalistic integrity, and hard-nosed writing with facts in order.

The fact that the vast majority of Kossacks are eating this up and rallying with torches and pitchforks is really upsetting. I miss some of our long lost Kossacks very dearly at times like this. Some of the people who used to write here were the best journalists I have ever read. At least we still have Jerome a Paris, but the ranks of the great Kossacks are dwindling.

More and more they are replaced by this mob of kneejerk attack dogs, content to fight and bicker to prove their minute little points all day long. Those people don't seem interested in taking back Congress, uniting the party, or defeating Republicans. They only want to shame and humiliate those evil (insert Obama/Clinton) supporters.

Hopefully that means that after the primary, when there are no more "Clinton is evil" diaries to traipse about in they will slow down enough to think, and recognize the need for civility and reality in our writing again.

Your comment saved me from storming away from my compy in distress, and I thank you.

If you are an old time Kossack, one interesting thing is that Meteor Blades seems to be in the camp of those who think things have gone too far, but of course, he's just one lone blogger...

by MediaFreeze 2008-03-06 08:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting makes NY Post

Markos ego has gone haywire. He has the largest liberal site. He is a commentator at Newsweek. He wants to pick a president at all costs. If he cant pick the president, than he wants to pick the Democratic nominee. Even if it makes McCain win in November.

Markos is not about the Democrats or liberals. Markos is about Markos.

by moi moi 2008-03-06 08:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting makes NY Post

As much as I hate the use of reverse racism by Obama and his cult of supporters, it does not help Clinton to bring up this issue. It deflects from the real issues facing the Democrats. Clinton can win on the real issues, and if the campaign focusses on real issues. And if the campaign focusess on Obamas real weakness as a potential Comander in Chief and flaws in his argument that he is a new type of politician. When in fact, he is the worst type of old politician. He is a demoagogue.

by moi moi 2008-03-06 08:26AM | 0 recs
Dkos has lost all credibility IMHO

Frankly, I only visit to see what the "crazies" are currently ranting about. They've become the extreme wing of something I can't even define. Thankfully, I found MyDD, a bastion for somewhat sane political discourse. I don't consider dkos a democratic site any longer. I think a lot of the media talkers who are supposed to represent the left (Stephanie Miller, Randi Rhodes, etc.) have been brain washed by that site's propaganda which explains all the Hillary bashing.

by Rome890 2008-03-06 08:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Dkos has lost all credibility IMHO

Check out talkleft.com too.  Big Tent Democrat who writes there used to be a Kos front pager.  I was referred there by another kos poster when I voiced my opinion that dKos has lost all credibility.

The left blogosphere has fought so long and hard for credibility.  Too bad Markos is so willing to flush it down the toilet.

by Dave B 2008-03-06 09:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Dkos has lost all credibility IMHO

Thanks. Believe it or not, MyDD and TalkLeft were recommended to me by an Obama supporter and a very good friend of mine. We can all get along :)

by Rome890 2008-03-06 11:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Is Kos attempting to brand those of us who are dark- skinned and brown-skinned blacks, unworthy? He seems  to be playing a dangerous game with race politics.

by Actright 2008-03-06 08:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Very dangerous - but it's all about winning at any cost to the Dem Party.

Also - the race baiting by Obama surrogates and then Obamabots accusing the Clintons of racism is disgusting!  But it's been succesful perpetuating Obama as "Victim" which emboldens his followers.

Most anti-Hillary diaries at DK are filled with misogynist statements - clearly allowed.

by annefrank 2008-03-06 09:11AM | 0 recs
Most anti-Hillary diaries

are responded to with scurrilous accusations of misogyny.  Few of these are ever TR'd.

by corph 2008-03-06 10:11AM | 0 recs
Re: DISCONNECT with majority

I have to admit, the same thing occurred to me.  I had to forswear DKos for awhile because the loonies were TR'ing me and calling me names for no decent reason.  It made me sad to leave a few sane Hillary people behind, but it had to be done.

I'm so glad that Markos isn't a Hillary fan.  That might spell her doom.  As it stands, I'm feeling verrrrrry good right now.  I look forward to the Clinton-McCain race.

by Montague 2008-03-06 08:44AM | 0 recs
Re: DISCONNECT with majority

Ditto.  I've basically abandoned dKos, too.  For a full year, logging into dKos used to be the first thing did in the morning, the last thing I did at night, and I kept it open during slow times at work.

I can't say as I miss it, however.  I miss what it was a year ago, but I don't miss the current hatefulness.

by aggieric 2008-03-06 09:02AM | 0 recs
Re: DISCONNECT with majority

I stopped going there many months ago save for a diary recommend when requested but I haven't really gone their in at least a year or so given all the flaming I got when I was promoting Bayh 2008.  They are way too far left for my tastes.  At least it's a sane discourse here.

I've given much thought to writing the GBCW diary but have yet to do so at all.

by kydem 2008-03-06 09:05AM | 0 recs
Re: DISCONNECT with majority

It's up.  41 comments so far!

by kydem 2008-03-06 09:39AM | 0 recs
Re: DISCONNECT with majority

The part that's just hilarious to me is the dKos insistence that Obama is as "progressive" as the members of dKos are.  That is the bulk of their justification for supporting Obama and attempting to destroy Clinton.

Some people really can't see the mote, due to the plank in their own eye.

by aggieric 2008-03-06 09:56AM | 0 recs
Re: DISCONNECT with majority

Montague--I noticed your absence on dkos...right before I left, too.  I decided it's a waste of time trying to bring facts to closed minds.  It was disappointing to leave a blog that I'd been part of since its inception, but when Markos himself joined the throng of hate-mongering delusionaries I figured it was time to give it up.

by miriam 2008-03-06 09:08AM | 0 recs
It does indeed flow from the top

Markos has jumped the shark with the rest of them.  Like you, I've been checking on DK for years, on and off.  It's sad to see what has happened.

It's nice to see old friends from DK over here at MyDD. :)

by Montague 2008-03-06 09:19AM | 0 recs
Not the first time

people need to realize that site is top down driven.  So is this one.  When the blog owners control the content on the front page, that is top down design, will push whatever the owner wants to push.

This idea that dailykos is a user driven site is at best naive.

Their rating system also has some serious flaws as anyone knows who has tangled with the concrete brain agenda bloggers (pick your issue).

This isn't the first time I've read something on that site and just plain grimaced.

So, it's his credibility, his to destroy but don't assume that's a true community website.

There are now many, many other blogs and some actually are higher in ranking than dailykos in traffic, so this illusion of power, of just one site to have people driven politics, but under the will of one (see the oxymoron here!) just isn't valid.

Yes, anyone who works with images knows these were not Doctored.  There is no way a media professional or graphic designer would do such a job that is like that.  It's just the film, the lighting and the RGB scale of the original film.
It's been debunked...

but it's not the first time by a long shot some outrageous post has been front paged and like a cult somehow people do not challenge this.

If you want real people powered politics, well, don't give power to just a few or one person through software design, website ownership and content editing.

What can I say.

by Robert Oak 2008-03-06 08:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Is Obama not black? How does darkening his colour translate to "rascism". Obama supporters should be proud that the his picture in the ad is darker. Cant understand!! Is that not why the AA's are flocking to him in record ratios? Or they prefer him "white" now. Those guys over there at DailyCurse have lost it.

by lluluadorl 2008-03-06 08:58AM | 0 recs
For the same reason

the Muslim e-mails are offensive.  Not because there's something wrong with being Muslim, but because of what type of voter reaction is being appealed to.

Hillary Clinton is an albino lesbian.  What?  That's offensive?  Is there anything wrong with being either?  See how that works?

Distorting someone's facial geometry and skin color is disgusting politics, no matter the effect.  In this case, it stretches credulity to assume it was not intentional.

by corph 2008-03-06 10:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Let me get this straight... you're claiming this isn't a big deal for 2 reasons:

1. The widening of the shot is OBVIOUSLY FLATTERING.

2. The darkening of the shot is to improve the quality to that of film, thus enriching blacks to make the final shot 100% better.

Okay, got it. Thanks

by dantes 2008-03-06 09:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

You are insulting me. My family ranges from vanilla to black pepper in complexion. We value each member and do not get hung up on "light, brown and dark". Keep your perceived racism to yourself. You are not doing the black race a favor.

by Actright 2008-03-06 09:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

I'm glad you and your family are blind to color. Many Americans are not, and that is the demographic that the Clintons are dog whistling to. It's a pattern of behavior that we've seen since Obama entered the race.

Quite frankly, I find it disgusting, and I cannot vote for a race-baiter. Hello, President McCain.

by amiches 2008-03-06 10:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Kos doesn't understand elections or real life.

He predicted Obama would win TX by 12 points! and Clinton would only win OH by 4. He is hopelessly out of touch with real Democratic voters from New York all the way to California. Maybe he should retire early and live in Boise with pictures of Obama and Ronald Reagan all over his room

by rossinatl 2008-03-06 09:01AM | 0 recs
reading what a concept

I've noticed that also, esp. on DK.  When you see comments that are almost on top of the post time they are especially suspect.

This is another problem where people just plain comment spam in order to try to bury a post, no reading, no facts, not citings, no links, no rationale.  

I consider these people the blackhole of cyberspace.  You could spend hours in comment threads dealing with it.  I think it's better to put a 5 minute time lock on each post before someone can actually post a comment to assist in getting them to even scan the actual writing.  

by Robert Oak 2008-03-06 09:08AM | 0 recs
oh yeah

and this is why I don't want caucuses.  Some serious bullying sort of behavior generally but more importantly....

as they say on DK, don't feed the trolls, so in other words, there are some excellent community blogs around and believe me, each user visit via webads gives them more visibility, support.

So, ya know, go to the blogs you find credible and interesting and the ones where you find not so much, well, you change, don't expect them to change.  

by Robert Oak 2008-03-06 09:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post
Obamabots are now saying they'll riot and boycott if Obama isn't the nominee.
Scary followers.
by annefrank 2008-03-06 09:13AM | 0 recs
Better do what they say, then :)

by corph 2008-03-06 10:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post
It's a good thing Kos pointed all this out. I mean, my subconscious was being... tampered with. For a minute there, I totally forgot that Obama is a black dude. Thank god for the good folks at the DailyBarackos.
by sricki 2008-03-06 09:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Just checked over at kos, there is a nice post debunking this race-baiting by dhonig over there. It is on the rec list, if you are registered there you better go and rec it, so more ppl will know about it.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3 /6/02123/27986/649/470232

by devil 2008-03-06 09:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Kos is being PAID by the Obama campaign. That is the real story for any journalist worth his salt. Why is no one reporting on the fact that DailyKos has become a PAID arm of the Obama campaign?

by venice1789 2008-03-06 09:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

I had no idea that Markos is being paid by Obama. I just thought his ego went haywire. Now, he is misleading. That sucks. He should put a disclaimer that he recieves money from the Obama campaign. Any journalist should disclose that they are working for a campaign. That borders on dishonesty.

What the heck. He is asking journalist and media to hold themselves to a higher standard, and then he sinks to the lowest level of dishonesty: being paid by a campaign to run a blatantly falst race baiting story.

How can Markos claim he represents anything but old school dishonest politics of smear and taking money.

by moi moi 2008-03-06 09:30AM | 0 recs
Groan

Ask for evidence before believing something like that.  I'm certain it's false.  Heck, ask Jerome (no Obama fan he).  Jerome got accused of being a paid shill for Hillary a while back too, and did not take it lightly.

Kos has stated his reasons for voting for Obama loudly and frankly.  He disclosed his consultancy for the Dean campaign back in '04.  There's no reason he would hide taking money from the Obama campaign now.

by corph 2008-03-06 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

I wouldn't go so far as to say that he is paid. But  he is essentially an Obama campaign surrogate.

by devil 2008-03-06 09:30AM | 0 recs
Show me some evidence

and I'll remove my hide rating.  I'm pretty certain you're fabricating this.  How the hell would you know, anyway?  This kind of post reflects poorly on this site.

by corph 2008-03-06 10:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos

Thank you for this info.  I didn't know, but I'll spread the word. You'd thnik NBC news would mention this, wouldn't you?

wouldn't be surprised if Huff Post is paid off by BHO too

by moevaughn 2008-03-06 10:32AM | 0 recs
Yes, the Obama campaign

has paid all the media outlets favorable to him.  Maybe they even paid his million donors to donate to him!

Hmm, I wonder if I can get in on this racket.

by corph 2008-03-06 11:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Obama is black. the picture of him in the ad is blacker. What is the issue? Let them try something else. This doesnt fly!

by lluluadorl 2008-03-06 09:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

I just did the infamous GBCW post over at Kos and I've never felt prouder!  Okay, so I've been prouder but you know what I mean!

by kydem 2008-03-06 09:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Give us the link please.

by LakersFan 2008-03-06 09:50AM | 0 recs
by kydem 2008-03-06 09:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Actually ppl are a bit saner here compared to Kos. You would know this if you tried to support Clinton over at Kos. And looks like i'm not the only one treated badly over there for trying to support Clinton.

by devil 2008-03-06 09:46AM | 0 recs
Re: DISCONNECT with majority

Diary on DK Rec list about Hillary receiving donations from Rezko co-defendants.
But nothing about Obama receiving donations from Hsu!!

DailyObama = truthiness

by annefrank 2008-03-06 09:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

No.  They are crazies because the have lost any grip with reality.  They aren't supporting their candidate, they are smearing the opponent with hit diary after hit diary.

I'm betting that they have driven away a significant fraction of their readership.

by Dave B 2008-03-06 09:52AM | 0 recs
Sockpuppet staircase

I love that phrase!

Seriously, I have wondered what black people think when they see "blackness" being bandied about in this way.  Early in the campaign there were questions about Obama being "black enough" and now this??

Likewise, I wonder how Muslims feel about their religion and culture being characterized as a "smear"?  

I was involved in a "discussion" with a DKfanatic who compared Clinton to George Wallace.  Considering when and where I grew up, that kind of language is fighting words.  That comparison suggests that Clinton is stupid white trash.  

I was ready to ditch DK altogether just when I was returned to TU status.  Now I have donuts to hurl, so I go ever there and toss some around.

by newhorizon 2008-03-06 09:58AM | 0 recs
Re: DISCONNECT with majority

I have to agree with you, and a number of the people responding to this comment. Clearly, based on the actual counts of real votes, neither Kos nor the media is calling the shots on this one. They may be trying to, but it looks like the electorate just won't play along. As part of the netroots, I sometimes forget that only a small percentage of the country is plugged into the blogosphere -- the rest don't know from Kos, FDL, MyDD, Americablog, etc. and are completely unaware of the minutia of electoral politics that we follow so closely. I have to remind myself of that every once in a while. And in terms of far-reaching influence, it seems that SNL beats Kos by a mile.

by Iphie 2008-03-06 10:05AM | 0 recs
Too Black For Kos' Taste?

"There was a concerted effort by Clinton's ad people to make Obama look darker, more sinister, and with a wider nose. The evidence is indisputable."--Kos

Is there something wrong with being a black person with darker skin and African features? Because that is what the inverted racism of KOS is implying. Darker skinned individuals should be offended by the utterly racist and seemingly uncontrollable subterranean impulse coming from Kos' twisted mind. Incredibly Kos equates "sinister" behavior with being "darker" and having a "wider nose." So much for Obama's post-racial America.

The repressed racism inherent in Kos is troubling. He seems to want Obama to be the whitest black man he can find, anything more than that and he starts panicking and accusing the Clinton's of racism. What are dark skinned blacks meant to make of Kos' peculiar mindset? Is there some secret blackness tolerance color scale in operation for some Obama supporters like Kos? Will anyone blacker set off "sinister" alarm bells? How utterly perverse is this? Kos represents the worst kind of racism that is so deeply embedded that he cannot even recognize or comprehend his inherent prejudice. It is so completely internalized that he can't even edit himself.

by superetendar 2008-03-06 10:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

Seems to me that him being blacker shouldn't matter, unless someone is racist and considers blacker to be worse.

So, them even making it into a big deal is showing their own bias, IMHO.

by splashy 2008-03-06 10:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos


loonie lefties are as nuts, dangerously so, as rabid righties.

look how they are smearing people like Joe Wilson and Paul Krugman; the comments they attach to Wilson's and Krugman's posts on Huff are so despicable they ought to be censored....downright creepy.  They seem to hate Joe Wilson of all people, one of the great heroes to stand up and fight Bush/Cheney lies; and they hate him because Joe Wilson thinks HRC would make the best president.

by moevaughn 2008-03-06 10:28AM | 0 recs
Air America and radio station 1150am in LosAngeles

are also strongly biased against Clinton. Randy Rhodes is especially terrible. So, Clinton gets attacked from all sides. If she didn't the race would have been over a month ago.

I will stop listening to Air America and stop going on dailykos. There should be an economic consequence to the blatanly biased members of the media.

by mmorang 2008-03-06 10:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

The name of that site should be Daily Hate. Because that is all they do, except lie and adore what's his name. It would not surprise me in the least if evidence turns up that directly links the death threat phone calls to black politicians with the staff at Daily Hate.

It is one thing to have supporters on a site taking controversial and inflammatory positions. Kos actually takes them himself or fans the flames of others. Daily Hate has done more to discredit the progressive movement than anything the republicans have said.

It's funny, someone told me that they had received two different advertisements on the same day from the Obama campaign. In one where he was around white people his skin tone was lighter and in another where he was around blacks his skin tone was darker. I didn't bother to look at mine with any more depth than to determine where they came from on my way to throw them in recycling pile.

All things to all people and blame it on your opponent seems to be the Obama campaign motto.

by Fleaflicker 2008-03-06 10:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Kos Race Baiting Hits NY Post

How come I can't see this thread anymore?

by devil 2008-03-06 11:34AM | 0 recs

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