Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Virginia doesn't really, really count because:

1. Too many black people -- they even once elected a African-American Governor.

2. Too many educated people.

3. The traffic on the beltway was just horrible, how could that ever happen!

4. Too many mountain people, like in those Obama states like Idaho.

5. Too many white men.

6. Too many young people.

7. Too many independents and, gasp, they let them vote here!

your reason?

Tags: Barack Obama, Virginia (all tags)

Comments

49 Comments

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Too many latte drinkers.

by dmc2 2008-02-12 02:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Wait a minute - there was bad traffic in the DC area? That's never hapened before. Obviously the Obamabots were deliberately causing accidents.

by PantherDem 2008-02-12 02:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

DC traffic is NOTHING!  NOTHING!!  Try driving around Chicago, SF or LA sometime and you'll PRAY for DC traffic ;-)

by yitbos96bb 2008-02-12 03:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

National traffic rankings:

1. LA
2. (tie) DC
Atlanta
4. San Francisco

by mcdave 2008-02-12 03:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Never been to LA, but having grown up in Atlanta and now living in DC, I can say they shouldn't even rank on the same page.

Yeah, it takes forever to get around Atlanta.  But at least the road signs make some semblance of sense.  DC signs, plus DC traffic, makes it far, far worse.  Three hours to get across the city is something both have in common (actually, I never took 3 hours to get from one side of Atlanta to the other), but having roads split without warning and signs obstructed so badly you can't read them until past the point where they have any benefit is something much worse (and anyone who has tried to find the Mass Ave exit driving on 395 through the tunnel near the Senate knows what I'm talking about).

by Jay R 2008-02-12 05:15PM | 0 recs
huh...

dc (especially beltway) traffic is worse than chicago.  eveb when the edens has lanes closed for construction, it's not as bad (as similar situations in the beltway).  la traffic is clearly the worst, afaic.  but that's because public transportation is scorned.  i wouldn't drive in san fran, so maybe that wins.  55 is easily matched by 95, and i think it best not to drive either during rush hour.

what i want to know is why you left out new york?  the long island expressway, anyone, on friday?  manhattan below city hall during a weekday?  yuck!

now if you want to argue that chicago has more construction time (dan ryan was, what, 3 years?), i'd think you have a point.  but i find it easier to get around in chicagoland than inside the beltway...

by bored now 2008-02-12 03:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Too many new voters. We all know we don't want new people to engage in the political process as Democrats.

by animated 2008-02-12 02:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Too many blind followers of The One with light shining from behind.

by Sandeep 2008-02-12 02:36PM | 0 recs
ain't that the fucking truth

annoying AND creepy...

what a combo.

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-12 03:09PM | 0 recs
Re: ain't that the fucking truth

I don't know if Hillary is annoying and Creepy, but her campaign is, and Bill, who I once respected (foolishly...blindly...despite all his flaws..) is both annoying and creepy at this point.

by Demeric 2008-02-12 06:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

they have stupid accents

by omar little 2008-02-12 02:36PM | 0 recs
eh

not the ones votin' dem

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-12 03:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

No one every suggested we don't count Virginia

Obama on the other hand wants us to not count Florida

Virginia may or may not MATTER

by sonofdonkeykong 2008-02-12 02:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

yeah, who needs Virginia?

It's not like it's going to be competitive in the General or anything...
Oh wait, they have a democrat as Senator... AND Governor?

Come on people, don't be so short sided, if we want to make states competitive we need to look at, and be competitive in states like Virginia!

by MrMacMan 2008-02-12 02:42PM | 0 recs
1000 bucksVA goes to Mccain

Hillary or Obama.  Anyone?

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-12 03:07PM | 0 recs
Re: 1000 bucksVA goes to Mccain

a) http://www.raisingkaine.com/

b) Lots of people will take that bet.

by MrMacMan 2008-02-12 03:43PM | 0 recs
1000 bucks

well, I'll take any money theyd wanna give me.

The dems won't be using VA in the electors map.  Whoever says that they will , doesnt know what the F they are talking about.

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-12 03:52PM | 0 recs
Re: 1000 bucks

it's becoming more and more blue everyday.

Turnout today shows it.
Getting a dem senator shows it.
Having a dem gov shows it.

Anyone who doesn't think it's not going to be competitive isn't thinking of the possibilities and to the greater goal of the 50 state strategy.

by MrMacMan 2008-02-12 05:03PM | 0 recs
Re: 1000 bucks

Mark Warner is going to spend millions on the best GOTV program you've ever seen.  NoVa polling places will be flooded.

Yeah, this one's going blue.  It's not a certain bet, but if this isn't where the battle's being fought then we're in some serious trouble.

by Jay R 2008-02-12 05:17PM | 0 recs
If you think so,

spend that money on intrade (www.intrade.com)

And while you're at it, you can get a great deal by betting on Clinton's chances of winning the nomination - they only have her at 27.5% right now, so you can almost quadruple your money.

by MILiberal 2008-02-12 04:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Yeah it's totally not fair to not seat FL. They had no idea that something like that could happen when the moved up the primary. Oh wait...

by illlaw1 2008-02-12 02:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Hillary didn't want Florida to count either until she got in trouble and decided to be the only candidate to campaign there.

by AllergicToBS 2008-02-12 02:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Hillary Clinton also said Florida didn't matter when she signed the 4 state pledge.  But now it is necessary in her delegate math so she's suddenly for seating those delegates.

Had Florida and Michigan not violated the DNC rules this wouldn't be an issue, but Hillary was complicit in that decision.

by Vox Populi 2008-02-12 02:58PM | 0 recs
Hey, at least it wasn't a caucus!

Now there is where Obama is really stealing the election!

by MrMacMan 2008-02-12 02:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

This doesn't count because Virginia has too many people!

by cbfatih 2008-02-12 02:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

No, no, no.  Not enough people.  The states with a lot of people are the only ones that DO count.

by NJIndependent 2008-02-12 03:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Because Hillary didn't win

by dogman 2008-02-12 02:54PM | 0 recs
Too many cultists

That has to be the reason.

by puma 2008-02-12 03:02PM | 0 recs
90% plus of the Black Vote

Ahh...the sweet rewards of calling your opponents RACISTS....

priceless.

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-12 03:05PM | 0 recs
Re: 90% plus of the Black Vote

troll means bad, right?

by cbfatih 2008-02-12 03:06PM | 0 recs
Re: 90% plus of the Black Vote

That's an old excuse. You didn't get the talking points update yet, did you?

by animated 2008-02-12 03:07PM | 0 recs
Re: 90% plus of the Black Vote

Too bad he won Latinos.. and women... and nearly tied amongst white people overall.  

Why do you feel the need to go negative/boreline racist?

by MrMacMan 2008-02-12 03:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

I'm waiting for "He was supposed to win that one anyway." See, Hillary's 50%+1 strategy is to give up on any state she might not win, so it looks like she wasn't trying anyway.

by X Stryker 2008-02-12 03:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Could everyone please at least start by getting the facts straight about Florida?  AllergictoBS above should be breaking out in autoimmune hives. HILLARY DID NOT CAMPAIGN IN FLORIDA, DID NOT ADVERTISE IN FLORIDA.  

In fact, Obama had tv ads up in Florida.  His campaign explained that the ads were part of a national buy.  I'd like to know if the ads were airing in Iowa (well past the caucus there).

In the last 24 hours I heard both Frank Luntz and Nora O'Donnell say that Obama was not on the ballot in Florida.  YES HE WAS, AS WAS EDWARDS.  

by oh puhleeze 2008-02-12 03:13PM | 0 recs
It was

The ad was aired nationally. Nationally means nationally - including Iowa, as well as New Hampshire, Nevada, Michigan, and South Carolina.

by MILiberal 2008-02-12 03:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Right, she just had a bunch of "fund raisers" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) that were coincidentally scheduled in the state she pledged not to campaign in just a couuple days before the election she pledged wouldn't count but now she needs.  We understand, they were just "fund raisers"...

by NJIndependent 2008-02-12 03:22PM | 0 recs
Look,

I support Obama, but this is just stupid. How many voters do you convince anyways with a fundraiser?

by MILiberal 2008-02-12 03:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Obama won virginia because of all those low income voters and latino voters and white voters who favored him over Hillary. Damn them!

by beanbagz 2008-02-12 03:13PM | 0 recs
Moral victory for HRC
She appears to be holding her defeat within 30 percent .... just barely. BTW, youth vote according to CNN exit polls: Vote (18-24): Obama 89 Clinton 11 If you've seen the "Hillary and the Band" video, you'll understand this statistic.
by jmr1948 2008-02-12 03:15PM | 0 recs
well, the beltway knows hillary best...

so maybe it shouldn't count.  can't have the people who know her infecting the people who adore her...

by bored now 2008-02-12 03:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Um.  This blow-out could get bigger.  At CNN, no returns have even come in yet from Richmond.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primari es/results/county/#val=VADEM11

by Drummond 2008-02-12 03:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

Um, you won. You don't need to be sarcastic. Hillary lost, remember? Hillary supporters are hurtin' enough without you mocking us, OK?

by forecaster15 2008-02-12 03:56PM | 0 recs
umm

classless

by sepulvedaj3 2008-02-12 04:05PM | 0 recs
Ignore the BamaBot trolls, please!

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by Firefly4625 2008-02-12 04:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Ignore the BamaBot trolls, please!

excuse me? the obama-bots are ruining this website? What is ruining this website is all the negative attacks on both candidates in every diary. People need to grow up, including you. Just becuase people support obama doesn't mean that they are ignorant or "junior high school bullies". I come to this website to find news. When will you poeple realize that poeple who are on this placement are way too opinionated to actually change their mind so there is no point in trying to convince the readers that one candidate is more evil than the other

by ijm7 2008-02-12 04:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Ignore the BamaBot trolls, please!

You obviously didn't read the childish, disgusting diary, dear.

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by Firefly4625 2008-02-12 04:54PM | 0 recs
it's too bad you are so childish...

i know that i was just having a little fun, mocking seymour and his endless "the sky is falling if we don't elect hillary, the sky is falling" posts.  it seems others were having a little bit of fun, too.

it's only an election.  it's not the end of the world.  both hillary and all the people obsessed with her will get over it.  you know, begula and carville are still out there, ready to save the day.  obviously, things just haven't gotten bad enough for them to swoop in and save hillaryland.  there, there, it will be okay!

by bored now 2008-02-13 03:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Ignore the BamaBot trolls, please!

"Vermin?"

My Lord, how easily people lose perspective. That is unbelievably over-the-top.

by PantherDem 2008-02-12 04:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

ummmm, ummm.... Hillary didnt win... IT DOESNT COUNT!!!!

by dem sam 2008-02-12 05:13PM | 0 recs

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