Video: GOP Voter Calls Hillary a "Bitch" & McCain Laughs

This diary will be short and sweet. (And it was cross posted at Daily Kos)

Pissed off Hillary supporters who are threatening to vote for John McCain ought to be reminded of this as OFTEN as possible. (Video after the jump):

How soon people forget.

Then, of course, is his infamous joke about how "ugly" Chelsea Clinton is.

All these accomplished, intelligent, educated, strong women who are threatening to vote for McCain ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Tags: campaign, Chelsea Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John McCain (all tags)



But if you had posted that 2 months ago
on "progressive" sites, how many rec.s would you have gotten?  how much agreement with the insults?  how many "amens"?
I EXPECT Republicans to be sexists.  Democrats?  That disappoints me.
It's hard for me to get offended by Republicans saying things I saw rec'd on kos all spring!
by kosnomore 2008-06-16 08:44AM | 0 recs
You have some serious problems, then.

How many Obama supporters made crude jokes about Chelsea Clinton?
Not to mention the fact taht, how often (if ever) did Obama HIMSELF give any credence to any of the stronger attacks on Hillary made by some of his supporters?


Therein lies the difference. And it's all the difference in the world.

Obama is a class act. McCain is a scumbag who called his own wife a "cunt" to her face.

Wavering Hillary voters need to get a fucking grip on reality.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-06-16 08:54AM | 0 recs
To this day, pro Obama bloggers leave
their conference calls with the Obama campaign and then post nasty Hillary attacks (see americablog and Aravosis).  And, no one in the campaign says "hey, get a grip, we're trying for unity".  Because, they're not.  Because they don't want her on the ticket, so Axelrod's still sliming her.  DAILY.
And btw - disagreeing with YOU is not a sign of "some serious problems".  It's a sign of disagreeing with you.  
by kosnomore 2008-06-16 09:06AM | 0 recs
Re: To this day, pro Obama bloggers leave

Americablog did post a few nasty Hillary attacks.. ry-today-john-mccain-has-more.html

Oh, did you mean something else?

by mydoubled 2008-06-16 09:10AM | 0 recs
The nastisest atatcks from Obama on Hillary...

...that were sanctioned by his campaign in any way were that she would "say anything to win," etc.

There were a few outliers such as the charge that Hillary was a "monster" by Samantha Power, which she promtly apoloigized for profusely and was fired from the Obama campaign almost immediately over (compare that to how Geraldine Ferraro has responded to her attacks on Obama) -- and the charges of race baiting by BILL Clinton levelled by folks in a subtle way. [Which were factually correct, by the way!]

Obama and his campaign have never, ever, ever, reported to sexism against Hillary to gain votes. Not even remotely.

He did not go around claiming that "men won't vote for Hillary."

In any case, many Hillary supporters made out and out racist attacks on Obama here and elsewhere. I don't hgold Hillary directly responsible for those attacks. Especially given how they COPNTINUED even after Hillary herself has magnanimously conceded and endorsed Barack. [i.e. Michelle's alleged "whitey" video.]

The fact of the matter is: McCain is a scumbag. And he's a misogynist scmbag to boot. A sexist pig in every sense of the word, from his unceremonius dumbping of his disabled firs wife, to his derogatory treatment of his current wife, to his rampant womanizing, to his crass and offensive jokes about a teenage girl.

Proud Hillary supporting women voting for him is an offense againt feminism and basic human dececy

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-06-16 10:20AM | 0 recs
Re: To this day, pro Obama bloggers leave

Yes, and some Hillary supporters think there should be a massive insurgency within the party to beat sexist ol Obama (see hillaryis44.)  There are real assholes on both sides of the isle, lets all acknowledge that.  The key difference here though is that it was MCCAIN who laughed at the comment, not just a McCain supporter.  

by iowa dem 2008-06-16 10:24AM | 0 recs
Re: To this day, pro Obama bloggers leave

Yeah, OK. Barack Obama isn't not trying for unity. uHRC?source=feature_thankyou

At which point you'll promptly ignore all evidence to the contrary so you can keep repeating the same nonsense.  

by USArmyParatrooper 2008-06-16 01:21PM | 0 recs
Re: But if you had posted that 2 months ago

that's no more right than this is but do you have nothing to contradict the diary itself? Was the candidate Obama reccing those diaries? Which current candidate has the one of the worst ratings for both womens issues and kids issues? guess what, as larry johnson shows, as hagee shows, as some kos people show, all candidates have crazies supporting them, none more then the others.

by Dog Chains 2008-06-16 08:56AM | 0 recs
Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks
and he even joined in ("she's likeable enough . . . ")
To this day, Axelrod still bad mouths her daily, and they're still sliming her.  Unity?  Then cut the crap.
by kosnomore 2008-06-16 09:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks

"Likeable enough" isn't sexist.

And did some Obama supporters say stupid shit?  Yes.  But I wouldn't go making a federal case of it, because there are off the rails supporters on BOTH sides of the (recently ended, in case you didn't notice) battle.  

Need proof?  May I suggest a trip over to or

by ihaveseenenough 2008-06-16 09:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks

I don't understand Kosnomore's obsession with everything possibly negative from the past.

At what point does it get so old that you will stop bringing up stuff that was maybe relevant in March?

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-16 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks
The lesson should be that if you see a certain user name below a comment, don't even bother responding.
I really don't know why people tie themselves in knots rebutting these people.
by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-06-16 11:40AM | 0 recs
Likeable enough isnt sexist ?
How soon they forget.  It was a classic dismissive sexist statement from a man to a woman.
It lost him the women's vote in NH, remember?
by kosnomore 2008-06-16 09:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Likeable enough isnt sexist ?

Do if Obama has said it to a man, would it be sexist?

If Clinton had said it to Obama, would it have been sexist?

by mydoubled 2008-06-16 09:20AM | 0 recs
No. It's not sexist.

It's a flip comment on Hillary's likeability. It was gender neutral.

The comment itself was not sexist. If I recall, the reason women were upset with Obama was not becaus ethe comment was sexist, but that he piled on and did not act in a gentlemanly manner to defend Hillary from that charge in a string enough way. INstead he gave her a backhanded compliment.

Which, of course, is holding Obama to a double standard when it comes to how he criticizes or attack Hillary Clinton.

Nobody would ahve cared had he said that about Joe Biden in exactly the same way.

But Hillary supporters thought she was being trteated unfairly and wanted Obama to act with Chivalry towartd her, and thus reinfiorce the very sterotypes they supposedly want to get rid of -- rather than as a legitimate rival for the nomination.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-06-16 10:25AM | 0 recs
Re: No. It's not sexist.

I don't think they wanted Obama to act with chivalry.  If I remember correctly he caught flack for pulling out her chair to seat her at the beginning of one of the debates.  He was in quite a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

by matchles 2008-06-16 12:58PM | 0 recs
Re: No. It's not sexist.

Chivalry is sexist.

McCain is not chivalrous.

Ergo McCain is not sexist.


Why is chivalry sexist, may I ask? Because Obama is chivalrous.

by french imp 2008-06-16 01:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Likeable enough isnt sexist ?

It was a response to a question about why nobody likes Hillary Clinton.

Honestly, the same question could have been posed to the GOP candidates about Mitt Romney, and the responses would have been similar.

"You're likable enough" was snooty, but it wasn't sexist.

by elrod 2008-06-16 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Likeable enough isnt sexist ?

Hey, whatever works for you.  Obama's a sexist pig and the world is united against any woman ever coming to power, and the Democrats are RIGHT on the frontline of the war for male superiority.

by ihaveseenenough 2008-06-16 01:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks

"To this day, Axelrod still bad mouths her daily..."

He does? d=&q=axelrod+clinton&ie=UTF-8&am p;scoring=n&sa=N&start=20

Hrm, not seeing much here.

by mydoubled 2008-06-16 09:16AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks

Don't take her to seriously, there seems to be an insane repetitive post mortum whining over stuff that has nothing to do with the GE as it "may" have happened in the now over primary election.

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-16 09:17AM | 0 recs
"Don't take her too seriously"

Yeah, she's just a girl!

by kosnomore 2008-06-16 09:20AM | 0 recs
Re: "Don't take her too seriously"

You must live a very strange life when every comment that does not flatter you in its entirety is a dismissal of your gender.  But I guess noew I can see where your opinions spring from.

I don't take you too seriously but it's because you're [whatever race you are].  Haha, didn't see that one coming, did you?

by mydoubled 2008-06-16 09:27AM | 0 recs
Re: "Don't take her too seriously"

And there you see the pattern.

Spend enough time here and that kind of crap gets transparent.

Kosnomore has not made a single non selfserving positive statement since maybe the second night I saw her post on this board.

She even said she wanted to change her name, as basing your identity on hating another site was pretty lame, which she agreed to.

Well thats whats nice about this site, as soon as she sees this repetive sex baiting goes nowhere and cheapens our historic primary race she will make a new name.

Funny too, how Kos is so evil when their traffic keeps going up and this site and others completely tanked.

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-16 09:32AM | 0 recs
She didn't change her name

to a certain allergy medication, perchance? The hit-and-run style is disturbingly familiar.

by Sumo Vita 2008-06-16 12:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks

If that's joining in, then you would have to turn around your prior comments regarding HRC never taking part (he's not a muslim that I know of)...not really much difference between your point and mine then, is there?

by Dog Chains 2008-06-16 09:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks

A search for "Axelrod Hillary" on Google news finds exactly one reference in the past week, a 6/9/08 Fox News article about how the Obama campaign is planning to utilize both Clintons in the general election.  The article is complimentary, unless you consider Axelrod's assertion that the process was "unbelievably grueling" and that Hillary "deserves some time to chill out" to be badmouthing or sliming or both.  "Axelrod and Hillary" returns the same results.  "Axelrod and Hillary"'s most recent result is May 25, 2008.  

Do you have any actual evidence that your claim---that David Axelrod personally badmouths Hillary Clinton on a daily basis---is occurring?  Because I have not seen anything like that, and a review of the public record (I don't have a lexis subscription) does not provide any support for your assertion.  

by bosdcla14 2008-06-16 09:58AM | 0 recs
I do have a LexisNexis Subscription

And I looked for anything that had both "Axelrod" and "Hillary" in the past month.  Axelrod is not talking about Hillary at all, as far as I can tell.  The only thing I found was attributed to a senior strategist to Obama, and while it's not super-duper nice, it isn't exactly an attack.

"There is a strong sense coming from a lot of Hillary supporters - I won't extend the accusation to her - that it was her turn, she'd earned this and Obama is a usurper," said the unnamed strategist. June 8, 2008.

by ProgressiveDL 2008-06-16 10:18AM | 0 recs
Re: I do have a LexisNexis Subscription

A quote that, I would note, is more than a week old, and specifically excludes Hillary.

So yeah, again Kosnomore, what evidence makes you believe that David Axelrod is "sliming" Hillary Clinton on a "daily basis?"  

by bosdcla14 2008-06-16 10:24AM | 0 recs
Re: I do have a LexisNexis Subscription
by John in Chicago 2008-06-16 12:03PM | 0 recs
You are wacko.

You are actually comparing the "you;re likeable anough, Hillary" comment to John McCain giggling when a supporter called Hillary a "bitch?"

Or to McCain telling Chelsea Clinton "ugly" jokes?

The is the most idiotic moral equivalency nonsense I have ever seen.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-06-16 10:11AM | 0 recs
Re: You are wacko.

'Hillary is likable' is sexist.

Ergo 'Chelsea is ugly' is not sexist.

by french imp 2008-06-16 02:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks

Which attacks on HRC were sexist? By whom were these attacks made? What was Obama's obligation to defend someone who was--at the time--his opponent?

by Carl Nyberg 2008-06-16 11:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks

To this day, Axelrod still bad mouths her daily, and they're still sliming her

And this happens, daily, in your dreams? Or do you have anything to substantiate your fantasy smears?

by Sumo Vita 2008-06-16 12:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama did NOTHING to stop the sexist attacks

Just a tip- blockquote, not blockquotes ;)

by ihaveseenenough 2008-06-16 01:02PM | 0 recs
&quot;Excellent question&quot; - John McCain

I forgot he called it an excellent question

by TarHeel 2008-06-16 09:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Video: GOP Voter
that lady was a d-bag for asking it that way. she gives them consent to call women 'bitches'; what a dumbass;

she degrades herself while degrading others.

laughter ensues
by alyssa chaos 2008-06-16 10:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Starting... consider McCain.

by xdem 2008-06-16 11:02AM | 0 recs
McCain the feminist

by obsessed 2008-06-16 12:02PM | 0 recs
This is old news and it won't change the minds of

Hillary supporters who are furious about the way Obama, the Democratic "leadership" and the media have treated her.

McCain did not accuse the former president and first lady of race-bating. McCain did not make it exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to sucessfully run for the nomination in the future.

This diary is a sad attempt to bring up McCain's negatives with Hillary supporters. Hillary supporters already agree with Obama on most issues. All he needs to do is the right thing and put Hillary on the ticket for party unity. She's more qualified than anyone else he could choose in foreign and domestic policy and she delivers red states (Arkansas) and helps with the swing states. It should be a no-brainer.

by mmorang 2008-06-16 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

McCain did not make it exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to sucessfully run for the nomination in the future.

True, Obama will likely have a successful 2-term presidency, the usurper! Could he be any more thoughtless or inconsiderate?

by Sumo Vita 2008-06-16 12:15PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

No, you misunderstood my comment or pretended to misunderstand.

No one minds Obama winning a fair fight. No one minds a hard foul. But a career-ending flagorant foul is a different story.

Obama tarred both Clinton's with false charges of race-bating. That crosses a line. That is why there isn't party unity.

The Republicans are as popular as colon cancer and they are running a corpse. Yet, Obama is only tied with McCain. If he doesn't put Hillary on the ticket he will lose and deserve to lose.

by mmorang 2008-06-16 12:37PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

No, the Clintons "tarred" themselves by sending surrogates to "go there".  They shouldn't have done it.

by ihaveseenenough 2008-06-16 01:03PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

Lots of people outside the Obama campaign thought the Clintons went over the racial line. "Hard working Americans, white Americans." How was THAT not race-baiting? Obama didn't say it. Obama didn't turn an obscure innocent reference to a racial one. He didn't need to. It was patently obvious that Hillary Clinton had equated "white" with "hard-working," which is a classic race-baiting tactic. It was her own doing, not Obama's. Yes, JJJ was snide with her re: Katrina. But JJJ's Katrina "tears" comment mostly made Jackson look like an idiot, not Clinton.

by elrod 2008-06-16 01:03PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

Ya, people who don't know the facts.

by mmorang 2008-06-16 06:38PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

YOu sure as hell don't know the facts.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-06-16 07:55PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

You've present a reasonable argument, so I'll offer a serious response. There's a chasm separating your perspective from mine, and this is it:

Obama tarred both Clinton's with false charges of race-bating.

From the view of just this supporter, there sure as hell was race baiting. It was not a false charge.  

Prior to Ferraro's verbal diarrhea, Obama was just a freshman senator with popular appeal running for president. Ferraro was the opening salvo in a series of shameless attempts to change that perception to him being "the black guy". Her spittle-flecked diatribes claiming that he was only winning "because he was black" was a disgusting, slanderous insult to his many supporters for whom race was farthest from their minds. Ed Rendell openly pondered whether his electorate would vote for a black man. And Bill certainly didn't help when he explained Obama's SC strength by allusions to Jesse Jackson's failed campaign.

Now, not for a second do I consider either Clinton to be racists. But I'm just as certain that Penn et al. had no qualms about using race to the campaign's advantage in Appalachia - a strategy that was clearly successful. The dog-whistle politics practiced in Appalachia weren't examples of overt racism - but the emphasis on race appealed to those they were designed to appeal to. It was a new low in a battle that had already hit epic lows.

In the end, one campaign practiced race-baiting, the other called them on it. Whether this move was "career-ending" depends on how well they now work together to smoothen ruffled feathers on both sides.

by Sumo Vita 2008-06-16 01:18PM | 0 recs
Obama never &quot;tarred&quot; anyone...

...with that charge. Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton or anyone else.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-06-16 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

Obama accused the Clinton's of race-bating. They made it up. I know exactly what Hillary and Bill said, the context and the timeline and neither of them said anything remotely racists. Obama and company are the ones who sent out all the emails to the media with THEIR spin. Apparently it the short run.

Bill Clinton NEVER said anything remotely race-bating and that is one hell of a bald face lie from the Obama campaign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by mmorang 2008-06-16 06:41PM | 0 recs
They race baited. It's not even debateable.

Even Rep. Andrews said they were doing it behind the scenes.

Are they racists? No. Were they willing to use other people's racism to leverage votes for Hillary? You betcha.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-06-16 07:55PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

Hillary made a factual statement about the passing of civil rights. She said it took someone from the outside and inside, MLK and Pres. Johnson, respectively. She is clearly a huge admirer of MLK. But Obama and co. twisted her comments and tried to say she was dissing MLK. Absurd!

Jesse Jackson Jr.: "Hillary didn't cry for Katrina". Pure race-bating!

Bill Clinton after the SC loss:

Reporter: "is Obama so good that it takes the two of you to beat him?"

Bill on his way to his car: "Jesse Jackson won here in 1984 & 1988, he ran a good race, Obama has run a good race here, he's run a good race EVERYWHERE, but there are still many contests to go"

Clinton was advocating for his wife and trying to downplay or marginalize his wife's opponents victory. That is exactly what he's supposed to do. He's not supposed to be Obama's cheerleader. Jesse Jackson was seen as a one-hit-wonder.

Jesse Jackson said that there wasn't a thing wrong with the comment. But Obama and co. sent out emails to everyone and said that it was race-bating. EVERYONE knows that Obama is black. Bill Clinton wasn't sending out secret code informing people of the obvious. It was a baseless charge.

The list goes on and on. I'm not talking about the stupid things that surrogates of both sides have said. I'm talking about the candidate himself going after the Clinton's.

Hillary mildly attacked Obama on experience, which is legitimate. Obama attacked Hillary's personal character. So, now it's personal. If he doesn't put her on the ticket (like she would have done for him) then I will be leaving the party. Hillary and Bill Clinton's treatment has been an embarrasment. The Democratic party is going to be in for a surprise if they don't make this situation right.

by mmorang 2008-06-16 06:56PM | 0 recs
Re: This is old news and it won't change the minds

So: Obama must take Hillary on the ticket in order to get her supporter's votes.

Whereas John McCain can have her supporter's votes for free?

What's so great about McCain?

By the way, isn't the phrase 'be on my ticket' sexist? Sounds like 'she's got a ticket to ride'...

by french imp 2008-06-16 02:12PM | 0 recs
A dirty window I can see you through

Enough with the silly diaries. We know: McCain is evil, Obama is saintly.

Get Hillary on the ticket so we can win the election and move on. If not, don't complain when the corpes wins in November.

by mmorang 2008-06-16 12:04PM | 0 recs
When all else fails

the sardonic put-downs and threats make an appearance. FWIW, I hear the "don't blame me" bumper stickers are on sale somewhere.

by Sumo Vita 2008-06-16 12:32PM | 0 recs
Re: A dirty window I can see you through

Where did I say Obama was "saintly?" Hes a tough Chicago politician. That Hillary supporters are crying about Hillary getting a few kidney punches from him is hilarious

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-06-16 01:52PM | 0 recs
Re: A dirty window I can see you through

No, not tough. False charges of racism is over the line as are his personal attacks. He couldn't win on issues so he went after her character.

I can't wait until November.

by mmorang 2008-06-16 06:43PM | 0 recs
Nobody accused Hillary of being racist.

Or Bill for that matter. They accused them of race baiting. i.e. using OTHER PEOPLE'S racism to seek political advantage.

There is absolutely no doubt they did that.

Deny it if you wish. But it will just demonstrate to us how tone deaf and full of Hillary Kool Aid you are.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-06-16 07:53PM | 0 recs
Re: A dirty window I can see you through

There we go with the threats again... put Hillary on the ticket (even though that would probably be a very bad choice), or "we" vote for McCain...

It's time to stop holding the party hostage...

by LordMike 2008-06-16 03:22PM | 0 recs
Democrat Party

I noticed McCain said "Democrat Party" at the end. What an ass. And how about the "ex-wife" comment.

by elrod 2008-06-16 01:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Video: Voter Calls Hillary a &quot;Bitch&quot;

I am not a John McCain supporter, nor am I a HRC supporter. But to laugh at a question is one thing (which is what he did)If a stand up comic asked the question in front of an audience and he laughed, what would be the difference. It was spontaniety. The second clip I can't hear, so I don't even know that he said it. Go relax, this shouldn't sway voters one way or another. I've said much worse about Hillary in my comments, and no one's asking her supporters not to vote for me.

by johnny sexton 2008-06-16 03:15PM | 0 recs


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