Fox Shut Out of Debate Schedule

The Commission on Presidential Debates has announced the moderators for the four presidential/vice presidential debates. Fix Network was not chosen.  This happened in the primaries and they complained. It has happened again. Maybe now they will begin to examine their fair and balanced slogan instead of complaining all the time.

Even ABC learned a lesson because of their "gotcha games debate". They were shut out too.

Here is the list of moderators:

Debate Moderators

Please take the time in the next few days to send a sincere congrats to the Fix Network on being shut out AGAIN on any of the debates. Here are a their emails:

sean.hannity@foxnews.com

steve.doocy@foxnews.com

friends@foxnews.com

gretchen.carlson@foxnews.com

brian.kilmeade@foxnews.com

oreilly@foxnews.com

alan.colmes@foxnews.com

kirsten.powers@foxnews.com

show.livedesk@foxnews.com

cavuto@foxnews.com

Tags: 2008, Barack Obama, debates, Election, John McCain, Presidential, schedule (all tags)

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20 Comments

Re: Fox Shut Out of Debate Schedule

Jeez, Bob Schieffer - I predict he will go apoplectic that Obama doesn't genuflect to the REAL AMERICAN HERO within the first five minutes of the debate.  Still, it beats the Fox tools, Charles Gibson, and Stephanopoulos.

by rfahey22 2008-08-05 11:49AM | 0 recs
agree; Fox not "fair and balanced"

BUT....when is MSNBC going to become "fair and balanced?"

by soyousay 2008-08-05 11:51AM | 0 recs
Re: agree; Fox not "fair and balanced"

I guess that's a fair statement, but really Fox news is in a class of their own. Fox news where the machismo of the punditocracy reigns supreme.

Careful not to confuse the pundit class (which does have some major control at msnbc) and actual reporters of which Brokaw certainly belongs to the latter.

by Tenafly Viper 2008-08-05 12:05PM | 0 recs
Re: agree; Fox not "fair and balanced"

Careful not to confuse the pundit class (which does have some major control at msnbc) and actual reporters of which Brokaw certainly belongs to the latter.
You could say the same in reference to Fox news.
There's Chris Wallace and then there's Sean Hannity...see the difference?

That being said, even "journalists" lean one way or the other, it's just more difficult to tell.

In reference to control...yes they do have "MAJOR" control. MSNBC actually does blackouts when the news doesn't fit they're agenda.

by soyousay 2008-08-05 12:17PM | 0 recs
I could handle

Chris Wallace doing a debate.

I think letting Alan Colmes run one would be an act of charity and redemption tantamount to feeding lost puppies.

by Neef 2008-08-05 12:23PM | 0 recs
Re: I could handle
This is subjective of course and since it is, I respect your opinion.
IMO, Chris Wallace is more "fair and balanced" than Keith Olbermann.
by soyousay 2008-08-05 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: I could handle

Of course, Olbermann has his own show, which is balanced by Scarborough. Where's the equality on your network?

by Dog Chains 2008-08-05 12:58PM | 0 recs
Unlike you...

....I don't have a network; I flip around so I can get "fair and balanced" news.

by soyousay 2008-08-05 01:05PM | 0 recs
I'd agree, actually

I'm under no illusions as to KO's objectivity.

I'd also have to admit that someone (millions of someones, actually) must like Sean Hannity.

by Neef 2008-08-05 01:02PM | 0 recs
Re: I'd agree, actually

Sure they do because he appeals to a certain ideology, just like KO appeals a certain ideology.

I prefer c-span.

by soyousay 2008-08-05 01:10PM | 0 recs
Re: I'd agree, actually
confession ..... I used to like Hannity ...until he started his baseless attacks on Obama he actually tried  to say ludacris and Obama are lifelong friends and ludacris is a left wing radical looney like ayers or wright !!!???!!?!??
he is a rapper douche nozzle !!!!!
by wellinformed 2008-08-06 05:56AM | 0 recs
I'll agree..

if you're talking about a relative difference rather than a substantive one.

But no, I don't see a notable difference between Chris Wallace and the rest of the gang.  He may appear more moderate only because he doesn't openly act like a virulent, egomaniacal reactionary.  But he still obsesses over the stupid gotcha politics and traffics in the emotional politicking that has created fox's appeal with low-info voters.

by Tenafly Viper 2008-08-05 12:33PM | 0 recs
Re: I'll agree..

I do see a notable difference between Chris Wallace and the rest of the gang at Fox. I also see a notable difference between Tom Brokaw and the rest of the gang at MSNBC.

by soyousay 2008-08-05 12:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Fox Shut Out of Debate Schedule

But ... you're not gloating that CNN was shut out.   Why not?   I think we should send Jack Cafferty, Wolf Blitzer, Campbell Brown & Anderson Cooper some snarky e-mails too.    Here are their e-mails:

Ah, but wait:  FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting) doesn't have individual e-mails for the CNN crew.   You have to go to a web form to give 'feedback'.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/

On the other hand, FOX provides e-mails for all its individual reporters.   Which media outlet would YOU rather communicate with?  

Just sayin'

by miker2008 2008-08-05 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Fox Shut Out of Debate Schedule

I'm a little bit more concerned with which network is the least bit watchable over how easy it is to get in touch with their pundits.  

But to answer your purely rhetorical question, definitely the one that demotes news stories concerning the war in Iraq in favor of the latest celebrity "news".  I'll let you figure out which one I'm referring to.

by Tenafly Viper 2008-08-05 12:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Fox Shut Out of Debate Schedule

That requires no figuring at all:  CNN is the biggest purveyor of celebrity voyeurism I've ever seen.   As evidence, I present two letters I sent them long before they became the mouthpiece of misogyny in politics:

Dated December 15, 2006:

"'Bad girls' in the news."  

Question 1:  What does it take for a prominent young woman (Lohan, Spears, MissUSA) to be upbraided by the national media and publically rebuked by some disgusting middle-aged man (Lohan's producer, Donald Trump).   Answer:  Um ... party too much?

Question 2:  What does it take for a prominent young man to be upbraided by the national media and publically rebuked by disgusting middle-aged men? Answer:  Unknown.  It seems the U.S. media (CNN included) have little interest in that question.  I
suggest you send one of your brilliant young reporters to dig up dirt on all male actors and sports figures in the 20-25 year old range.

Think about it, CNN."

---------------------------------------- -

Dated May 8, 2007:

"Hammer's piece on Paris Hilton was VERY STUPID and VERY OFFENSIVE.  

It's not Paris Hilton who is the problem, it is the MEDIA -- SUCH AS YOURSELVES -- who bring these people into our lives ... CNN and Hammer, shame.   If you don't like Paris Hilton, then why don't you go and find some smart and well-behaved young women to report on?   And you think of yourselves as a news organization."

by miker2008 2008-08-05 01:25PM | 0 recs
Surely you're not comparing

Fox to CNN?

by Neef 2008-08-05 12:24PM | 0 recs
All cable channels were shut out

this is nets only.  I think this is usually the case in the GE.

by JJE 2008-08-05 12:25PM | 0 recs
Re: All cable channels were shut out

Jim Lehrer and Gwen Ifill are both moderators, and I wouldn't consider PBS a network.  I find it hard to believe there's really a policy excluding cable channels, the job of moderator is just reserved for the most respected journalists, which disqualifies the entire FNC roster.

by semiquaver 2008-08-05 04:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Fox Shut Out of Debate Schedule

As much as I'd like to see this as punishment for ABC for that Democratic Primary "debate", it seems like it's just rotation. In 2000, Lehrer moderated all three. In 2004, it was PBS (Lehrer), ABC (Gibson) and CBS (Schieffer). 2008 it'll be PBS, NBC and CBS; 2012 will probably be PBS, ABC and NBC.

by TCQuad 2008-08-05 01:55PM | 0 recs

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