Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Wow, what a ride! We took our girl all the way to the finish line and crossed it with all the grit, guts, and glory of champions. I'm sure we are all still decompressing and determining our next steps. Whether you are fading into the Obama-nation or moving forward with Just Say No Deal, PUMA, Write Hillary In, Democrats for McCain, or joining one of the various NObama groups, we still have one piece of unfinished business to attend to - retiring Hillary's campaign debt.

Hillary stayed in the race because of us and for us. We gave her the financial support she needed to keep going and to finish the journey we all started together. So, her debt is our debt and we need to take care of it. I contacted her campaign finance office to verify how/where we can send contributions to help retire the campaign debt. Here are the options:

1. Donate to Hillary online at the Hillary Clinton For President campaign website. There are also other bloggers fund raising to retire campaign debt. If you want to join their fund raising efforts, check out the Forum, Heidi Li's Potpourri, or Lady Boomer NYC.

2. Mail checks to HRC's presidential campaign finance office in New York:

Hillary Clinton For President
420 Lexington Avenue, Suite 3030
New York, New York 10170

3. Purchase merchandise from the Hillary Store. There are still some selections of shirts, stickers, hats, signs, buttons, lapel pins, and accessories.

I bought a few more shirts and bumper stickers and contributed online.

Contribution Details
Date:     June 18, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
Amount: $100.00

We've done it before, let's do it again. Cough up what you can and show Hillary some love. Skip another latte, brow wax, or manicure, skip a few beers or martinis, just walk by that pair of shoes. Stay in for date night, rent a movie, or hold your honey under the stars. Give it up for Hillary just one more time.

Help spread the word far and wide!

Tags: 2008, Democratic Party, Democrats, DNC, Election, fund raising, Hillary Clinton, presidential primary, Retire Campaign Debt (all tags)

Comments

160 Comments

Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

thanks for this reminder. We are all dems here--I think. so ponying up shouldn't be too hard.

by linfar 2008-06-18 12:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

How about donating money to winning elections?

How about supporting the value of not borrowing more than you can spend.

For a nation riddled with debt, especially credit card debt this sends a bad signal.

Soon enough every campaign will spend beyond it's means and then just try and have "Unity Drives"

Its pathetic.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 12:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Chill Out.  This happens every cycle to the losing contenders from both parties.  People are just paying attention this time because the race was close and it is more money than normal.

by CAchemist 2008-06-18 12:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Typically, the loser isn't worth over $130 million.

Let's face it - the Clinton's didn't include the 2007 return which includes the burkle payout. they can afford a small hit. they have nearly unlimited earning potential.

by Lance Bryce 2008-06-18 11:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

You are just a party pooper .

Aren't you ?

I wonder what prompted you to go on that diatribe.

It just doesn't seem really worthwhile in my view.

by lori 2008-06-18 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Of course it does,  HRC WILLINGLY went into debt just like a college kid with his first credit card or a stock trader turning his job into a trip to Vegas.

TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS

How/Why should we reward such callous irresponsibility?

What is the exuse, the huge debt was going on the WHOLE campaign.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 12:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

" What is the exuse "

-- err she was running a presidential campaign and ran out of money.

However my point is  , there is a saying , if you don't have anything good to say , sometimes its better not to say anything.....

This would be one of those times in my view.

by lori 2008-06-18 12:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Look I have all the support for Hillary I can give, but I am not willing to throw away financial capital to reward GROSS overspending.

You know, and I know that the campaign knew full well what they were doing and GAMBLED on the remote possibility they would win or they would get more contributions.

During the whole campain I thought they were using bank loans and credit cards so I paid little mind assuming they would just default and screw the banks.

Well since then I have learned that none of this money is borrowed from any bank or creditor, therefore if she doesn't pay, the debtor is screwed.

So if you are going to donate remember you are helping the debtor, not the one in debt.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 01:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Was that a unity pony I just saw run off my computer screen?

by Pacific John 2008-06-18 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Huh,  no the pony is name 'Financial Responsiblity'

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I gotta say, I don't like the baiting, but I can't argue with that logic. You've got your reasons and they aren't simply that Hillary sucks.

by vcalzone 2008-06-18 02:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I never said she sucked, I never put 100%of the blame on her.

Im SURE Penn egged her on, and the zany mccaulife didnt help either.

Look Im not one to talk, the best I can say about myself is that I am not in debt, but my expectations are much higher, I would like to own  home one day, then another day be able to afford marriage and kids .

Its unfortunate you think I am baiting, I am not.  I just don't see the big deal.

Hillary can afford to pay off her debtors.

If she came out and said her adivisors won't be paid, nor her debt that this was just for the private businesses that hosted her campains needs, I would be open to that.

I wouldn't donate as I can list 100 places that need money to go forward.

We are all getting bent out of shape for something Hillary never asked for either.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 02:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt
It's time we stopped irresponsible spending. I dont want to encourage more Mark Penns in future campaigning.The guy's company is getting paid millions for incompetence.
Someone has to break the cycle. The Clintons have 100M in assets. Another 10M from their immense wealth to retire the debt wont hurt their ability to live in luxury. I feel the same about even my favorite big time politicians. Thisis not just an anti Hillary issue.
by Pravin 2008-06-18 05:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

leave it alone - this particular person amongst a few 'new' people here have only 1 agenda.  bash HRC.

by canadian gal 2008-06-18 06:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

"he" is just another of the McLamebots keeping the hate alive. Todd will love him so much!

by zerosumgame 2008-06-18 06:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

yay for you, Todd will really smile on you now! he luvs him some trolls spreading the hate!

by zerosumgame 2008-06-18 06:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Hillary will get nothing and like it.

by stevens7139 2008-06-18 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I agree that we should all donate to HRC debt relief, but you must realize linking to pro-John McCain sites is repugnant to the vast majority of democrats here.

by CAchemist 2008-06-18 12:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

That's the spirit. ;)

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 12:48PM | 0 recs
C O L !!!

Rec this one up, gang!

Donate now!

by Firewall 2008-06-18 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

HR'd for supporting John McCain and Larry Johnson.

One is a worthy adversary, the other a pathetic wannabe that has been rejected by society.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Wow... a HideRating for "thats the spirit"...

by SevenStrings 2008-06-18 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

No,  HR for propagating groups that are trying to destroy our party.

Is that clear?

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Yes, it is quite clear.

You disagree with some individuals, and wish to censor any references to them.

I never had any doubts, actually !!

by SevenStrings 2008-06-18 01:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Thats not an appropriate use of the privilege .

by lori 2008-06-18 01:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Sure it is, NoQuarter is an enemy not only to Democrats but to American politics in general.

Also campaining for McCain is a bannable offense and I have no problem HRing people just based on that.

Proof:  Yesterday a new user with the name "Clintonista4McCain" joined up and posted the usual crap.
So enough people HR'd every comment and Admin removed him from the system, not banned but removed, which means all posts are gone.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 01:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Per the guidelines:

Do not troll rate (rating as 1) another user's comment unless it is a comment that is an attack on another user. Do not hide (rating as 0) a comment unless it is an abuse of the guidelines. Abusing this privilege will result in all your ratings being erased and/or getting a warning, or being banned.

Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

In other words--Republican trolls who excessively bash the Democratic party, such as the diarist, are violating the guidelines, and a hide-rating is the proper response to any comment that violates the guidelines.

by BishopRook 2008-06-18 09:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I wonder if Alegre will come back to MyDD?

I wonder if Alegre is brave enough to come back to MyDD?

I wonder if Alegre is posting on MyDD under another user name?

I wonder if Butterflies can really cause hurricanes?

I wonder about a lot of stuff.

by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem 2008-06-18 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I wonder if this is the real alegre?

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 01:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I wonder if grlpatriot will behave just like Alegre did, when it came to defending these type of diaries?

by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem 2008-06-18 01:12PM | 0 recs
This person on screen is an idiot.

Please, name for me five things that Hillary has in common with McCain, but NOT with Obama.

by Lieber 2008-06-18 01:21PM | 0 recs
Well....

1.) They're both white
2.) They both were both adults during the Vietnam War
3.) They're both not black.
4.) They both remember the 50's.
5.) They're both not Barack Obama.

by BrighidG 2008-06-18 02:35PM | 0 recs
I'll play

The most important place that Obama and Hillary agree is that both feel you should vote for Obama for president.  However, it's not that hard to come up with 5 points where Clinton is closer to McCain than Obama, or where Obama is closer to McCain than Clinton:

Where Clinton matches with McCain rather than Obama:

1. They both voted against Cheney's energy bill.

  1. They both voted for AUMF.
  2. They both have said McCain is more ready at 3 am than Obama.

Places Obama matches with McCain rather than Hillary:

  1.  Obama and McCain both voted against putting a cap on credit card interest.
  2.  Both Obama and McCain think Social Security 'needs fixing'.

That's 5.  For 4 out of 5, I wish they were not true of either Hillary or Obama that they agreed with McCain.  The exception is that McCain was right on Cheney's energy bill.

by LIsoundview 2008-06-19 01:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Whoever that person is in the video, they're not very bright.  They just sound ticked off that they lost.

by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem 2008-06-18 01:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

That woman has some issues.  Not even if CLiunton was VP?

by NewOaklandDem 2008-06-18 02:40PM | 0 recs
Cristi Adkins- One dumb twit

Wow, where the hell did this moron come from? Cristi Atkins or Adkins, whatever her name is. Dumbest Clinton supporter on TV award goes to her. Funny englightening clip.

by Pravin 2008-06-18 05:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Whether you are fading into the Obama-nation or moving forward with Just Say No Deal, PUMA, Write Hillary In, Democrats for McCain, or joining one of the various NObama groups, we still have one piece of unfinished business to attend to - retiring Hillary's campaign debt.

Fading into the Obama-nation? (my how clever!)

Moving forward in electing JohnMcCain?

I'd rec this very worthy diary if it did not include these lame swipes at our nominee.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-18 12:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

You say "swipes" and I say "reality". If you aren't interested in helping retire campaign debts for a Democrat, then move on.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Why don't you move on back to No25cents, Alegre's Soapbox, and H44?

This site's for Democrats interested in electing a Democrat to the White House this November. Not for people to peddle crappy hit sites with embedded links.

by Firewall 2008-06-18 12:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I've donated to Hillary already. ; )

By the way, you are not as clever as you think you are.

Obamanation?

Abomination?

Main Entry:
abom·i·na·tion
Pronunciation:
ə-ˌbä-mə-ˈn 7;-shən\
Function:
noun
Date:
14th century
1 : something abominable
2 : extreme disgust and hatred : loathing

An isolated incident is a coincidence. Linking to GOP site immediately after that sentence makes your motives crystal clear.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-18 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

You say "retire campaign debts for a Democrat" pretty righteously considering that you're going out of your way to provide links for people to join Republican organizations.  

by ashriver 2008-06-18 06:36PM | 0 recs
If your diaries didn't include

FOUR SEPARATE SITES DEVOTED TO UNDERMINING THE NOMINEE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, I'd happily have recommended it.

As it is, it's just another attempt from a dead-ender to skim away Democrats from the goal of defeating McCain in November.

by Firewall 2008-06-18 12:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I like the notion of raising money for Hillary so she can  be debt free.

I find it offensive that you also link to sites that are actively campaigning for REPUBLICAN John McCain.  You are posting on a site that is founded on the idea of helping elect Democrats.  

Please remove the links to pro-John McCain sites, then people may take you seriously.  Your current approach will net Hillary no money.

by CAchemist 2008-06-18 12:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

It's pretty clear which option the diarist prefers.

"Fading into" what's derisively termed "Obama-nation", AKA, the Democratic party behind the Democratic nominee for POTUS.

vs.

"moving forward" (oh, the irony) into Actively Campaigning Against the Democratic Nominee, via a host of links devoted to undermining Obama and propping up McCain.

Note how the diarist took the time, not only to mention, but to embed links within not one, not two, not three, but FOUR separate anti-Obama sites?

This is a classic example of a dead-ender masquerading as a member of the Democratic party. This is a "supporter".

by Firewall 2008-06-18 12:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

No money for Mark Penn.

by CrazyDrumGuy 2008-06-18 12:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Yeah, I thought about that when I donated. But, there was so much more to the campaign that was worthy, right, and on track that I was able to move passed Penn.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:47PM | 0 recs
Alegre returns!

Ok, GRLPatriot has to be Alegre!

Noone else can push the nails on chalkboard insanity like she could.

She works with NoQuarter now, so it's alright to call her out.

Funny how they do this when you know it will go nowhere.

I like how the people at Noquarter think they are Political Terrorists just because a guy with really bad hair got fired from the CIA.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 12:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Alegre returns!

LOL! Flowbee and his Moe haircut. I'm gussing SusanHu is Curly.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-18 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Alegre returns!

Three stooges perfect,  I am just thinking of when those two idiot PUMA reps got evicerated on Neil Cavuto.

Imagine Larry in the middle punching them and doing the 3stooges antics as they stumbled and fumbled and got schooled by NEIL CAVUTO, hehe.

Ah for context I got to put it up, 30 second mark is where the hillarity starts:

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 12:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Alegre returns!

18 million... 50...

ROFL!

by mukloidy 2008-06-19 09:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Alegre returns!

I'll take that as a compliment.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 12:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Alegre returns!

RON HOWARD: It wasn't.

by vcalzone 2008-06-18 02:03PM | 0 recs
Great idea - she did it for us

Thank you for calling her finance office grrlp. I'll make a donation right now.

by catfish2 2008-06-18 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Great idea - she did it for us

No problem. Some folks weren't sure quite how to help retire the debt. A few phone calls was all it took to verify. Thanks for helping out.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Great idea - she did it for us

Alegre, so does this bundling to relieve the debt also apply to your "Hillraisers" bundling goal of 100,000$

I heard you got in the Hillraisers without raising that much.

Thanks to you I learned all the ins and outs of bundling and I am hoping I can be good at too so I can hang out on those cool conference calls.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Great idea - she did it for us

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm not Alegre.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Great idea - she did it for us

Yea, now that I see you commenting in your own diary I know you aren't her.

Alegre was never able to handle it,  only a cowardly troll writes diaries and then completely ignores all questions.

But understand as a representative of NoQuarter you will be accused of alot of things.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 01:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Great idea - she did it for us

Well, I'm sure glad you got the proof you needed. I thought I was going to have to get my ID out or something. You guys are unreal!

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Great idea - she did it for us

No no...

You're the one who's unreal...

by mukloidy 2008-06-19 09:39AM | 0 recs
You should check out Alegre's dungeon...

Because if you were you'd be here:  http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/  But maybe Alegre got tired of her own cozy little echo chamber.  Notice how the refugee keeps moving further and further into obscure internet fringe.

If you aren't her, maybe you should check it out because your propaganda would have better reception there, I assure you.

by Tenafly Viper 2008-06-18 01:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Various Nobama groups, or the same group of a couple hundred people opening up various websites, whatever way you slice it. Hopefully Obama helps her out a bit as well, regardless of what you people say about experience, only one of them ended up bankrupt.

by Dog Chains 2008-06-18 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

campaignwise I meant to say, sorry.

by Dog Chains 2008-06-18 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

You mean the DNC.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

You sound like a "real" Democrat.

Thank you for highlighting the political freedom we have to make individual choices in how each of us decides to move forward.

It is like a breath of fresh air.

by feelfree 2008-06-18 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Well said. This diary is calling on Democrats (where ever they may be) to help a Democrat retire campaign debt.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

And smear our nominee while you're at it!

You posting this actually makes people LESS likely to donate money to get Hillary Clinton out of debt, you realize that, don't you?  It makes it look like a republican effort.

by Jess81 2008-06-18 10:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Yes, a "Real Democrat" seeks to elect a Republican as president.

Ha ha. Good one.

by JoeW 2008-06-18 01:39PM | 0 recs
You should listen to your sig

Why would any self-respecting woman work to elect a Republican, especially one like John McCain?

by BrighidG 2008-06-18 02:27PM | 0 recs
Re: You should listen to your sig

You should READ my signature. In no way does it advocate, imply, or insinuate that I am working to elect a Republican.

by feelfree 2008-06-18 04:23PM | 0 recs
Re: You should listen to your sig

Without context, your sig might be innocent.

But with the context that you rah-rahed a Republican troll, and given your posting history on this site, it's fairly obvious which party your Susan B. Anthony quote is referencing.

But in the end, it doesn't matter.  I can't change your mind, so I won't bother arguing with you.  Maybe you'll come around in the end, maybe you won't, in either case Barack Obama is still winning.

by BishopRook 2008-06-18 09:30PM | 0 recs
Re: You should listen to your sig

If you want context you would have to read what I've written. Something that you have obviously failed to do.

The truth is this party needs to live up to the truths of its advertising. For some of us it doesn't look much different from the Republicans when it comes to feminist issues.

This person was calling on ALL Democrats to support Mrs. Clinton. The most twisted thing about your reasoning is the fact those sites you object to are more likely to contribute to helping her than at this site even though Hillary Clinton has a record of loyalty to the Democratic Party.

by feelfree 2008-06-19 09:41AM | 0 recs
Re: You should listen to your sig

And you should read what I wrote in this very thread.  I donated $50 to help Senator Clinton retire her debt, so spare me the sanctimony.

The issue with this diary is not that she's asking people to donate to Senator Clinton.  The issue with this diary is that she's advertising sites dedicated to electing John McCain as President of the United States.

This is absolutely counter to what Senator Clinton herself has asked her supporters to do.

In any case, your signature is an attempt to convince people who read it not to support the Democratic party.  Are you denying that?

by BishopRook 2008-06-19 10:14AM | 0 recs
Re: You should listen to your sig


Your issue obviously is not my issue. I am not concerned as to why you object.

My signature means exactly what it says. Feel free to take it literally.

by feelfree 2008-06-19 12:46PM | 0 recs
And by the way...

...It's Senator Clinton.

by BishopRook 2008-06-19 10:15AM | 0 recs
Re: And by the way...

Actually it's Senator or Mrs.

A real democrat would know either is correct.

by feelfree 2008-06-19 12:44PM | 0 recs
Actually, it's not

It's The Honorable Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton from New York, or Senator Clinton, or Mrs. Senator (if speaking directly to her), or just Clinton if informally referring to her in context.

As most style guides will tell you.

"Senator" is the title Senator Clinton earned for herself.  You wouldn't say "Mr. Obama" or "Mr. Dodd" or "Mr. Feingold," and "Mrs." is doubly disrespectful because it marks her simply as Bill Clinton's wife.

by BishopRook 2008-06-19 01:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Actually, it's not

You appear to be from the Wikipedia generation of U.S. politics, basically making it up as you go along. I've been around long enough to know either is respectful and correct.

I'm going to stick with what I know. The U.S. Senate itself during EVERY roll call vote refers to each member as Mr., Ms. or Mrs. so they must be disrespecting each other on a regular basis.

Since you have never watched a vote, I'm sure you can find one on YouTube since you don't appear to have spent much time watching C-SPAN.

That's all.

by feelfree 2008-06-19 03:52PM | 0 recs
Feel free to use those terms...

...as soon as you're elected Secretary of the Senate and are announcing the results of a roll call vote.  Until then, "Mrs. Clinton" is still disrespectful both to Senator Clinton and to the position of United States Senator.

Different forms of address for different people using them.  I called my systems professor "Karsten" because I was a graduate student; undergraduates and outsiders would still be expected to refer to him as "Dr. Schwan."

Perhaps I should have clarified: It's "Senator Clinton" to you.

by BishopRook 2008-06-19 04:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Actually, it's not

Also, I take being from the "Wikipedia generation of U.S. politics" as a compliment, so thank you.

I did, after all, follow Wikipedia guidelines and cite my sources.  You, on the other hand, did not.  Oh, you cited C-SPAN, certainly, but it's irrelevant to the proper respectful terms of address used by the public at large, unlike every source I cited.

by BishopRook 2008-06-19 04:32PM | 0 recs
Re: And by the way...

lol did you just accuse BishopRook of not being a Democrat because he uses correct Grammar?

hehe!

Funny.  No, Rook is Right.  If you think he's wrong, cite otherwise.

by mrrara 2008-06-19 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: And by the way...

I cite the U.S. Senate. How's that?

Wow....I didn't know commenters had there only little following of cheerleaders.

That's all.

by feelfree 2008-06-19 03:55PM | 0 recs
Re: And by the way...

Why are you being stubborn about this issue?

You were wrong, it's okay to admit being wrong... :-\

by mrrara 2008-06-19 04:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

"Whether you are fading into the Obama-nation or moving forward with Just Say No Deal, PUMA, Write Hillary In, Democrats for McCain, or joining one of the various NObama groups..."

I think that we really do need to help Hillary with her campaign debt.  It's the right thing to do, to help move past the primary wars.

I was really close to doing it too, until I actually read your diary.

Sorry, but I can't rec this diary.  I'll wait for the true, "Help Hillary retire her campaign debt because we're all Democrats" diary.

Your diary is still "all about her," and not "what is good for Democrats."

by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem 2008-06-18 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Yes, it is all about Hillary. If you are offended by Democrats working together to retire the campaign debt of a Democrat, then you are on the wrong site.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

...and if you are not-so-subtly advocating the election of McCain because your specific candidate didn't get the Democratic nomination, then you are on the wrong site.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-06-18 01:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

And if you have a problem with people expressing dissent, then you are in the wrong country.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

The irony here is that you just told someone that they "were on the wrong site" because they said something you disagreed with.  I fire the same thing back at you and apparently I'm in the wrong country.

Hopefully, you'll look back at yourself a few years from now and realize how ridiculous you sound.  You're on a Democratic website encouraging people to vote for the Republican nominee, but it's the other people that are lost.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-06-18 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

No, I'm encouraging Democrats (where ever they may be) to help retire a Democrats campaign debt. I hope you can see how narrow minded you are being.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

You just happened to include no less than 4 links to sites that are devoted to electing John McCain for President, but this diary is all about helping to retire a Democrats campaign debt.  Uh huh.

Yup.. it's the "other" people that are misguided and on the wrong site.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-06-18 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Really, only 4? Is there a limit?  

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 02:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

No, there is no limit to how many links in a diary that you can have promoting John McCain over the Democratic nominee.  In fact, for your next diary I think you should give up the facade of helping Hillary Clinton and simply post "Donate now!" buttons that link straight to the McCain website.  At least then you'd be being honest about your intentions.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-06-18 02:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Gosh, you just don't pay attention, do you?  Try reading the post that you just responded to again.

Now, let go over what I said.  I'm waiting for a diary that advocates retiring Hillary's debt, by making the case that it is good for Democrats.

You're response to me shows that you are not actually reading what I'm saying, you're just responding.

There's no dialogue going on here, you're just spouting off.

No surprise there.

by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem 2008-06-18 03:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Alegre!  We've missed you.  Kewl new name...

by rf7777 2008-06-18 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Thanks for the compliment, but me thinks you have mistaken identity.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

The fact that you take being called Alegre as a compliment proves you are a troll.  You should find find another place for your anti-Democrat BS.

by rf7777 2008-06-18 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Having a bad day?

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Tenafly Viper is also having a bad day.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 02:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Ahhh!  This must be Alegre!  

She responds to her own posts also!

by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem 2008-06-18 03:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Not as bad as yours...Campaigning for McGaffe must be hell..

by hootie4170 2008-06-18 02:34PM | 0 recs
Recced...

but I cant help.  I maxed out in April !

by SevenStrings 2008-06-18 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Recced...

You can always donate to the Clinton Library.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Recced...

Major mojo for you! Thanks for being so generous (and for the rec). Help spread the word.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:00PM | 0 recs
i'm sorry, but no

if you'd like to donate, go for it.  but i'm not because she can well afford to pay her own debt.

by annatopia 2008-06-18 12:57PM | 0 recs
I donated already

After Senator Clinton's very magnanimous and moving speech where she suspended her campaign and endorsed Senator Obama.

You are no longer a Democrat, and by pushing these pro-McCain sites, you are proving that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Get off.

by BishopRook 2008-06-18 01:11PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

Get out your passports, folks. The Democratic Party police are here.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:22PM | 0 recs
You might want to reread the site rules (nt)

by BishopRook 2008-06-18 01:36PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

No, you're not worthy of anything other than casual derision. I can't believe that you and I had a couple of warm interactions back on DK, and that I once believed you just supported a different candidate than I did.

So disappointed to find out that you're just a McTroll, and not nearly as entertaining a one as engels, for example.

by JoeW 2008-06-18 01:37PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

i miss engels

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 01:44PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

Also, sweetie, for the record as far as I know Alegre is supporting Obama (I addressed your identity crisis up thread).

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:59PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

You don't seem to know much. She's supporting Clinton without her consent, and has said as much on her blog. You can go there for more links to people planning to vote for McCain.

by Firewall 2008-06-18 02:02PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

Right... that would be why she calls Senator Obama "Bam Bam" on her website....

by Virginia Liberal 2008-06-18 02:23PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

Well, sweetie, I guess you don't know much.

We're a group of bloggers who've stood by Hillary through thick and thin in this year's election. For now, our sole purpose is to do all we can to help the super delegates understand that Hillary Clinton is our party's only hope in winning back the White House this year.

http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/

Hillary has endorsed Barack. Are you one of her supporters or not?

by skohayes 2008-06-18 02:50PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

I doubt Alegre would lower herself to posting McCain links like you do.

by Lefty Coaster 2008-06-18 10:25PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

In fact,  being a curious fool, I followed the link to Allegre's site and perused her Open Thread.  Allegre is not shilling for McCain.  Here's a quote:

I'm not going to vote for McCain.  Hell I can't even think about November yet but I at least know that much.
.....

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by: Alegre @ Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 22:29:04 PM CDT
[ Parent ]

by LIsoundview 2008-06-19 01:31AM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

auyup. I am so sorry. I liked your diary. but if you aren't onboard the Obama Express Right Now--and if you don't espouse his issues, his way--and if you are going to acknowledge those people who struggling with the general election, well, we will slime ya. I am following Hill. But these clowns oftentimes do not make it easy.

by linfar 2008-06-18 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: I donated already

The author of this little gem -> http://savagepolitics.com/?p=235 is complaining about people being slimed.  Jesus Christ on a pogo stick.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-06-18 01:49PM | 0 recs
What is it with all these Hillary supporters

Who don't care that Hillary has endorsed Barack Obama, who don't care that Hillary is working to get Obama elected, who don't care that Hillary has said repeatedly not to vote for John McCain?

Do they think she was lying when she said that?

Do they think she is so weak-willed as to let the party "force" her into saying that?

Do they just not care what Hillary believes in?

And do they really think they're fooling anyone here?

So confusing.

by BrighidG 2008-06-18 02:30PM | 0 recs
I don't get it either

It shows a remarkable lack of respect for Hillary Clinton's judgment and character.

by BishopRook 2008-06-18 09:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I love the sentiment involved in this campaign to help Hillary retire her debt, I really do.  Good on all of you who supported her historic run and continue to do so if only to show her how much you appreciated her efforts on your behalf.

If Obama had not won and had accrued a similar debt, I would have done the same thing for the same reasons.  

Again, good on ya!

Oh, and please do consider joining us as we take back the White House in November.  There's going to be plenty of great things ahead for Hillary as a part of the Obama administration, regarless of where and what she does.  It's going to be a beautiful thing!

by PittsburghPete 2008-06-18 01:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

You talk like going into Debt is totally normal.

20 million dollars.

Really?

So I guess they accidentally lost 20 million?

How can I help a person in debt who intentionally went there.

By running this crap you guys make HRC look worse.

She has the money to pay off her own debts.

Political Welfare, call it what it is.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 01:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

"grlpatriot" should easily be eligible for the John McCain "my boat is burning" lapel pin by now.

You know, Alegre, I was going to donate to Hillary again (I've donated to her before, since she's my Senator), but because of your repulsive diary, I think I'll hold off and donate to another worthy Democrat isntead.

Are you proud of the damage you're doing to your candidate?

by JoeW 2008-06-18 01:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I think you are having an identity crisis. If you take a good like at my history here and at dkos you'll see that I'm not Alegre. But if I run into her online, I'll let her know that you said "hi".

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 01:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

You sound so ridiculously childish.

Listen to yourself.

Why does everyone feel the need to fuel this immature behavior?

Move on people, nothing to see here. There are more important issues at hand like Iraq, the Economy and Healthcare.

Why waste your time with this garbage?

by mukloidy 2008-06-19 09:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Perhaps Hillary should have picked a hobby that was less costly.  If she couldn't afford to continue, she should have quit.

Either way I don't really see why anyone should give up anything to put money in the pockets of the Clintons.  I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I think the country has done a lot for the Clintons. Bill wouldn't be making six figures for a single speech if he wasn't the former President so I don't see the problem with asking them to retire their own debt.

by Tenafly Viper 2008-06-18 01:39PM | 0 recs
All political campains need to call !!!

Or when they lose they may end up "selling seafood to tourists in tshirts"

that is my fav line!

Who would of guessed these commercials are 7 months old, I love em everytime I see them.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 02:03PM | 0 recs
Re: All political campains need to call !!!

damnit, campaings here is the info you need:

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 02:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Congratulations. Because of your arrogance and insistence on being an absolute jackass to anyone who disagrees with you, including the Clinton supporters who decided to remain Democrats, you have ensured that several Obama supporters are far less likely to raise money for your cause.

Kudos. Idiot.

by vcalzone 2008-06-18 02:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Yikes, I read the other diary first.  That $20 is going back in the wallet.  Nice.

by ihaveseenenough 2008-06-18 02:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Take out those crap links to Anti-Democratic sites and you may have a case.  Otherwise, you're hurting Clinton's casuse here.  

by NewOaklandDem 2008-06-18 02:28PM | 0 recs
Link Police

When I start coming into your diaries and telling you were you can and cannot link to, then you can start coming into mine and telling me. So, thanks for stopping by.  

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 03:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Link Police

But you are not allowed.

Go ahead and ask the admin if you can support Pro-McCain sites here.

Is not allowed,  if you want mccain to win they why hang here?

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-06-18 03:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Link Police

Please read the title of the diary again. It will answer your question.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 03:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Link Police

Since you're supporting John McCain, why are you asking Democrats for money?

You should be posting this at Republican websites. They'll be glad to kiss your rings and maybe even throw some money at you, if they think it'll help them.

It won't, but don't let that stop you.

by BobzCat 2008-06-18 05:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Link Police

I support Hillary. Oh, that's right, I forget this diary isn't about Obama and he is the only Democrat in the world now. What will I do for oxygen?

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 07:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Link Police

Hillary Clinton has suspended her campaign and is supporting Barack Obama for President. She has expressly asked those who voted and worked for her to now throw their support behind the presumptive Democratic nominee.

The sites you link to and the groups you endorse are opposed to Hillary Clinton, are operating in direct opposition to her stated values and purpose, and in some cases explicitly support John McCain.

You are not a very clever troll. And your routine is so old by now, you're not even amusing any more. But brava for having wasted five minutes of my time. You succeeded that much.

by BobzCat 2008-06-18 07:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Link Police

"I support Hillary. "

No you're not. You're supporting McCain.

The only reason you even posted this diary is that you know that any dollar that goes for Hillary's debts is a dollar that isn't going to be used against McCain.

If you're truly a Democrat urge for Obama donations right now, and urge for Hillary donations only after the GE in November.

by Aris Katsaris 2008-06-19 04:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Link Police

Eh, you're too far gone anyway, and I tire of feeding trolls looking for McCain points.  Just don't expect to get very far with your anit-Democratic links here.

by NewOaklandDem 2008-06-18 03:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Flood relief.

by xdem 2008-06-18 03:26PM | 0 recs
Not. A. Chance.

I will not pay for a campaign that went on beyond its usefulness.  I will not pay for debts of the 3am ad and Mark Penn's big tab.  I will not pay for mailers that went out distorting Obama's record.  I will not pay for ads painting Obama as an elitist.  I will not pay for Hillary Clinton's  travel around the country on the funds of children's bicycles claiming the rules she agreed to at the start of the race should have been changed mid-course.

I'm glad that Hillary's issues will have an advocate in Barack Obama.  But I'm sorry.  Hillary Clinton amassed this debt on her own accord.  I did not support the way it was spent, and I will not send the message that one can run this way and then simply have their debts erased when it's over.

I'm all for unity, but this Obama supporter intends to stand by his vow to not put a penny towards repaying the loans of an awful campaign.

by Pragmatic Left 2008-06-18 06:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Not. A. Chance.

I really don't think I was asking you for anything. But thanks for stopping by and ranting.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 07:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Not. A. Chance.

Sorry, I got the impression the point of this diary was to ask us to help retire Hillary's debt.  

I for one, think it's a well earned burden.

by Pragmatic Left 2008-06-20 06:21AM | 0 recs
i honestly believe

That any money a Democrat can afford to donate should be directed towards the DNCC, Obama or one of the downticket opportunities.

by highgrade 2008-06-18 06:47PM | 0 recs
Re: i honestly believe

And that is certainly your right to spend your money however you choose to. Then there are Democrats who choose to help retire the campaign debt of a Democrat.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 07:10PM | 0 recs
Re: i honestly believe

Let them help retire it after November, and let them use their currently available money to help the contests currently taking place.

What's the big hurry with the Clinton debt? Worried too many Democrats' donations will be going to Obama?

by Aris Katsaris 2008-06-19 04:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I predict that within the next two years Hillary will write at least one book about her campaign that will bring in millions of dollars. I plan on putting my limited funds into working in my state to get Ronnie Musgrove elected to the Senate and Travis Childers, my new representative, re-elected to a full term. Any little bit left over will go to the Obama campaign.

by MS01 Indie 2008-06-18 07:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

Good for you. And that is certainly your choice. Why you are in this diary, then, is a mystery.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-18 07:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Help Hillary Retire Campaign Debt

I found mention of this diary in the santized version posted by another diarist. I came to see if someone would really put links to McCain fundraising sites. Not really surprised when I saw who wrote this diary.

by MS01 Indie 2008-06-18 07:41PM | 0 recs
You forgot to mention...

that this is cross-posted at Hillary's Bloggers.

by ashriver 2008-06-18 09:15PM | 0 recs
Re: You forgot to mention...

Yes, last night I did and I also cross posted it at Alegre's Corner (someone mentioned it downthread). I also posted comments on several other pro-Hillary sites to remind Hillary supporters, Democrats where ever they may be now, that we need to retire campaign debt. Do you want to do a back ground check to? I really do pay my taxes.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-19 01:06PM | 0 recs
I used to

respect you. This diary is nothing but a push to try and drive people to do things that Hillary Clinton WOULD NOT DO or CONDONE.

Sorry... but you miss on this one.

Why?

by kevin22262 2008-06-18 09:15PM | 0 recs
Re: I used to

Sorry Kevin, but your wrong. I'm not pushing or driving anyone to do anything. I threw some links in. It's reality; Dems are divided. The diary is directed to Hillary supporters, Democrats where ever they may be now, to remind them that we have campaign debt to retire. I'm sure some in the diaspora still lurk here which is why I posted the diary here.

I still respect you, Kevin, and the choice you have made. I'm sad that you cannot respect mine. I've been a Democrat for 20 years, voted for Democrats in every election since I was 18. You should know me well enough online to know that I am an honorable and fair person. You must understand that I cannot stand complicit in the things I have witnessed during this primary. The party has turned into something grotesque. My decision is based on Democratic principles and a sense of fairness, equality, and mutual respect. This isn't about Hillary; it is bigger and more central to our democracy. I must do what I feel is in the best interest of this country and the Democratic Party. I'm sure you feel the same way; we just happen to disagree on how best to accomplish it.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-19 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: I used to

Democrats are not divided among themselves. Polls are showing that Democrats in just about every state are unifying behind our nominee. Those numbers are growing.

But I admit that there are some Democrats who are indeed divided, but they're divided within themselves.

Some who were so invested in the Clinton campaign, who so internalized the campaign talking points and took as gospel truth the kinds of charges and counter-charges made by her campaign and by anonymous surrogates online, that now they're torn between supporting the party to which they've belonged (and in which their candidate still does), and hanging on to a campaign (and, perhaps, a dream) that's ended.

Part of me really does feel for them. They're casualties. Perhaps they weren't ready for this emotionally, maybe they need more time. I don't know.

But if they've turned the corner and are openly advocating for John McCain, or exist solely to attack our nominee, then they'll get no sympathy from me.

by BobzCat 2008-06-19 02:23PM | 0 recs
A challenge

For every dollar grlpatriot donates to Obama's campaign, I will donate two dollars to helping retire Clinton's debt, up to $200.

by jdusek 2008-06-18 09:59PM | 0 recs
Re: A challenge

You could do more good for Democrats by just sending the $200 to Obama.  Giving it to Hillary hoping for something from a troll in return is folly.  This scum diary's entire purpose is to misdirect funds that would otherwise be used to defeat McCain.

by SpanishFly 2008-06-19 07:35AM | 0 recs
Re: A challenge

Of course she failed to take me up on my offer.

She's asking Democrats to come together to help Clinton, but she's made it clear here and on other sites that she has no interest in supporting the Democratic nominee. How's that for party unity?

I've been making twice-monthly donations to Obama's campaign since he announced his candidacy. I'd be happy to send money to Clinton, too, if it would help put the primary behind us, but I doubt it would have any effect on the diarist's outlook.

Too bad some people expect more from others than they do from themselves, huh?

by jdusek 2008-06-19 01:01PM | 0 recs
Re: A challenge

I think there has been some confusion regarding the audience of this diary. I'm speaking directly to Hillary supporters to remind them we need to retire campaign debt. If you read the first 2 or 3 sentences you would realize that I was not addressing Obama supporters. I decline your challenge :)

by grlpatriot 2008-06-19 01:24PM | 0 recs
Re: A challenge

This diary is calling on Democrats (where ever they may be) to help a Democrat retire campaign debt.

Yeah, I figured you would decline.

It's more important for you to resist supporting the presumptive nominee than to help your preferred candidate retire her debt.

Well, my offer still stands if you change your mind.

In the meantime, you can continue to divide us into Hillary supporters and Obama supporters.

Me, I'm supporting the Democratic Party.

by jdusek 2008-06-19 01:58PM | 0 recs
grlpatriot is a TROLL

Linking to the sites you did should earn an immediate ban from this site.  Because of your diary, Hillary won't get a dime from me.  In fact, I'm heading over to the Obama web site right now and giving him another $50.

You disgust me.  The fact that the Mods here haven't banned you is an outrage.

by SpanishFly 2008-06-19 07:14AM | 0 recs
Smack the fly

I love you too.

by grlpatriot 2008-06-19 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Smack the fly

Trash.

by SpanishFly 2008-06-19 04:34PM | 0 recs

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