another one of those "elitist" moments?

Ok.. call me concern troll.. or watever you would like to call me.. but I hope senator Obama dissuades himself from appearing like an elitist. Mocking americans will not take you very far senator. I hope you learn that lesson earlier than later. We have done more with just our English language as mode of communication than any other country has achieved over past century. dont tell us what we have to do.. and please dont fall into this trap of being an alitist.. I totally understand your "exotic" upbringing and your supersmart acumen and applaud you for that. But please dont lose this election by making rookie mistakes. dont make americans look inferior to Europeans, especially French.

this election is not about you senator, this election is about civil liberties which have been stomped over by bush administration, this election is about womens right to choose, this election is about supreme court which is just one vote away from turning ultra conservative.. this election is about our soldiers who are sacrificing their lifes for purpose of satisfying bush's and cheneys ego.. this election is about affordable healthcare for every man, woman and child of the country.. this election is about compassionate immigration reform.. so much rests on your shoulder senator.. please dont call fellow americans ignorant or inferior compared to either mexicans or europeans.. we have done more as a country than what they could all do as a continent..

now go on and start bashing this concern troll!

Tags: elitist, obama (all tags)




You have got to be kidding me.  He just described the experience of every high school foreign language student in this country.  I should know - I was a straight A student in German for four years, but I had to speak English-only during our class trip to Germany.  Foreign language studies in this country are pathetic, and we do look like idiots when we go abroad.

But hey, it's the language that kickstarted a century of greatness, or whatever.

by rfahey22 2008-07-08 09:08PM | 0 recs

I'm afraid Gladiatorsback is a well known troll but we love him anyhow.

by Politicalslave 2008-07-08 09:10PM | 0 recs

go on I am listening :) and thanks for all the love.. right backatchya!

by gladiatorsback 2008-07-08 09:12PM | 0 recs

Any relation to GladiatorsTail?  He was around for awhile.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-07-08 10:23PM | 0 recs

Good call.

by rfahey22 2008-07-08 10:36PM | 0 recs

May I, good sir, introduce you to humble period.

This thing right here
 -----> . <-------

You put it at the end of a sentence.   Do you know what a sentence is?  If so, put a period at the end of it.

This is the internet, not ticker-tape, so ... is not necessary.

Not that punctuation would particularly help your diary, but, it's a start.

by ihaveseenenough 2008-07-08 09:18PM | 0 recs
I strongly disagree

First, the context was framed entirely in the context of "our kids".  Generally, people don't oppose their children learning new things unless it's seen as controversial (sex, evolution, gays, the usual bits).  Learning Spanish, French, or even Arabic isn't seen as being terribly controversial by the American public.  For example, the teaching of Russian was (relatively) abundant in some private and magnet schools during the cold war.  In fact, a major reason why foreign language became part of our school's curriculum was primarily at the behest of parents who felt we were lagging behind foreign nations.  

Anyway, I'd say the mere fact that he said immigrants should learn English pretty much canceled-out anything potentially harmful that followed.

by Homebrewer 2008-07-08 09:18PM | 0 recs
New movie poster.

by Dumbo 2008-07-08 09:34PM | 0 recs

No pictures, posters, illustrations, please.

Thoughtful discussion or nada.

by susie 2008-07-08 09:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Boo

I vote "nada," but unfortunately this turd has deposited a diary here, and there's no "flush" button.

by username 2008-07-08 10:34PM | 0 recs
Re: New movie poster.

Oh man I'd watch the fuck out of that movie.

by MeganLocke 2008-07-08 10:43PM | 0 recs
Re: New movie poster.

Oh yeah?

Well I'd fuckin' watch the fuck out of that motherfuckin' movie! Absofuckinlutely!

by January 20 2008-07-08 10:49PM | 0 recs
Re: New movie poster.

That movie looks infuckincredible.

by BishopRook 2008-07-09 05:11AM | 0 recs
Re: another one of those &quot;elitist&quot;

I think bilingualism is a good thing. Unfortunately we don't have enough teachers to offer bilingual education to all our students in public schools.

by feelfree 2008-07-08 10:07PM | 0 recs
You said it

OK, you're a concern troll.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-07-08 10:22PM | 0 recs
Re: You said it

Sorry Shaun, he immunized himself from being called a troll by anticipating it.  It's like some imaginary diarist or commenter stating that he/she is a democrat or that he/she has always been for Barack and/or Hillary - before dumping four pounds of concern.  It works like blogging forcefield.

by January 20 2008-07-08 10:55PM | 0 recs
Re: You said it

Yeah, I know - you're all going to say "look at her, she's eating live babies."

* eats live babies *

by MeganLocke 2008-07-08 11:06PM | 0 recs
Re: You said it

Megan, I would never say that of you!

Least of all if you were actually doing so.

by January 20 2008-07-09 12:30AM | 0 recs
Re: You said it

Shucks, I thought that seemed to easy.  Thanks for the heads up.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-07-08 11:21PM | 0 recs
Re: You said it

Think of it as the I am rubber, you are glue defense system.

by January 20 2008-07-09 12:09AM | 0 recs
Re: You said it

I'll be the first to admit I'm glue, but I'm afraid that just won't stick to me.

by Homebrewer 2008-07-09 12:17AM | 0 recs
Re: You said it
January That is so funny. Nice to hear from you.
Cheers   A troll force field!
by Politicalslave 2008-07-09 02:29AM | 0 recs
The diarist is an idiot.. .. .. ..

We have done more with just our English language as mode of communication than any other country has achieved over past century.

Do you mean we have accomplished more than any other country just because we speak English or because we use language?
Are there other countries that don't use language as a mode of communication?

by skohayes 2008-07-09 04:59AM | 0 recs
Re: The diarist is an idiot.. .. .. ..

we have accomplished more than any other country because we didnt have a president who would collectively mock our mode of communication.. intellectual spirit of americans and ability to effectively communicate.. do you even know that french actually mock americans whenever you try to speak french, wbhereas americans always appreciate people of other countries whomake an attempt to learn english or american culture.. big difference..

all i would hate is obama dropping the ball when it shouldnt be .. this is best year for democrats.. i hope he makes use of it instead of making these silly mistakes..

by gladiatorsback 2008-07-09 05:25AM | 0 recs
Re: The diarist is an idiot.. .. .. ..

Well, if Obama was mocking our "mode of communication" (usually called "language"), then you might have a point.
But he wasn't, so you don't.

There's certainly nothing wrong with being bilingual, when I was growing up, at least 3 years of a foreign language was a requirement in my school.
Now, thanks to Bush's "no child left behind", most kids can barely write in English, let alone speak it.
Your diary and the comment above are perfect examples.

by skohayes 2008-07-09 09:13AM | 0 recs
I have seen first-hand the Ugly American effect

"do you even know that french actually mock americans whenever you try to speak french, "

Have you ever been to France? or Asia?

My experience has actually been the opposite, most folks are very accomidating, and give you the benefit of the doubt if you even ATTEMPT to speak their language?

My italisn is always rusty, but I usually see a smile on their faces as I struggle to read the menu.

On the other hand, I have almost had to hang my head in shame, I have actually seen "the classic Ugly American" scream in English at folks in their own countries, as if I TALK LOUDER they will understand me.

Zenophobia may be the greatest of all myriad American sins.

If you look at us right and left coasters, we tend to be more progressive IMHO because we are immersed in the cultural milleau, as compared to folks that happen to live their entire lives in Kansas, never leave the country, never interact with "foriegn cultures."

I think one of the BEST things I did for my kid was taking her at a very early age to Mexico, to Europe, to England and Ireland.

Also, when you go to Japan for example, those people are very happy to try to speak English to you, they have YEARS of manditory English in their school systems.

I think, multi-linguilasm should be praised, not ridiculed.

by WashStateBlue 2008-07-09 07:20AM | 0 recs


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