The Greens and Ralph Nader are not the problem. Rahm Emanuel and the DLC are the problem. Emanuel and the DCCC are the ones who have been chop blocking progressive Democrats in Democratic primaries. It is conservative Dems who are attempting to lead the Democratic Party to electoral ruin for the next ten years.
If another Democrat took those actions, they would be risks.
Exactly what is the risk of a Democrat standing up to Bush and the GOP by opposing the Iraq war, opposing Bush's non-existent energy policy or supporting a woman's right to make her own health care decisions without interference from Tom DeLay, Bill Frist and Jerry Falwell?
The only risk they would run is the risk of winning back Congress and the White House. Some of us think that is a gamble worth taking.
If Democrats were occupying the White House. Have Majority Control in Both Chambers of Congress(House and Senate). There will be an increase in the federal minimum wage at an annual basis. not every decade.
If my Aunt had balls she would be my Uncle.
Universal Health Care,Universal College Education,Federal Minimum Wage Increase,and Environmental Protection/Energy Independence are issues that the Democratic Party agenda should be overwhelmingly satisfactory to the Greens.
Does the Democratic Party have a position on any of those issues? Please provide links to any Democrat besides Russ Feingold or Howard Dean who has taken a position on any of those issues that would be acceptable to an environmental Democrat. Platitudes are not going to win back the White House, Senate and House any time this century.
how it is that a strategy of voting for the Green Party would bring any votes over to the Democratic party?
You are miscaracterizing the discussion Lucas. The so called "Green" issues that the Democrats are scared of are supporting the environment, health care for all and opposing Bush's Iraq war. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain my the Democratic Party moving to the left and taking the electoral path outlined by Howard Dean and Russ Feingold.
The losing electoral path is the path outlined by the DLC, Lieberman, Biden and HRC.
Why should the Democrats "compromise" to earn the votes of 2.74% of the electorate?
Because they are tired of being total losers?
Who says we would lose 10-15% of conservative Democrats? What issues are your so called "conservative Democrats" going to bolt the party over? Where is the theoretical "loss of votes" from supporting a clean environment, health care for all and opposing Bush's Iraq war?
Dude. Why not just quote the National Review? Actually, NRO is probably more critical of Bush than the WAPO. WAPO is a pale shadow of a newspaper that deserves either reading or quoting. WAPO is a pathetic rag of a newspaper.
There is very little or no difference between the positions of the Republican Party and the DLC Democratic leadership of the GOP Wing of the Democratic Party. Gore and Kerry both deserved to lose. A political party with any political astuteness at all would be moving to the left and embracing the Greens, instead of moving to the right and trying to out GOP the GOP.
Since I am simply complying with your direct request for troll ratings, there is absolutely no reason for you to be upset. And since you mention it, I am having a total gas, gas, gas,. You on the other hand, quite obviously have absolutely no sense of humor. Typical of trolls. Just ask jiancinto, who is the most humorless commentor I have ever run across.
3. As far as Nader voters and their "marginalization" go, they annoy me b/c their "standing for their principles" in 2000 screwed a whole lot of poor folks in this country who literally couldn't afford to have GWB as their president.
I can understand why a DLC Democrat would be annoyed at anyone who actually takes a stand for principle on the important issues of the day. That's why we have The Backbone Campaign in the first place. We certainly wouldn't want to confuse the voters by standing on principle. That would be so uncharacteristic of the current Democratic Party.
You hit the nail on the head with this comment OsoDelMar. The fundamental political mistake the Democratic Party is making is attempting to appeal to Lieberman and Biden Republicans instead of their natural electoral allies. Howard Dean and the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party are leading the charge in the direction the Democratic Party should take.
Hillary, Biden and Lieberman are all electoral dead ends for the Democratic Party as a whole.