Obama's response about Choice


    I want to take this opportunity to speak directly to those of you who oppose my decision to support the Abortion compromise.

   Democracy cannot exist without strong differences. And going forward, some of you may decide that my women's reproductive rights position is a deal breaker. That's ok.  But I think it is worth pointing out that our agreement on the vast majority of issues that matter outweighs the differences we may have on a few issues like the constitution, warrantless wiretapping, telecom immunity, abortion rights, gun rights, separation of church & state, refining the Iraq policy and the death penalty. After all, the choice in this election could not be clearer. You have no option but to vote for me. Ha Ha.

   So I appreciate the feedback through my.barackobama.com, and I look forward to continuing the conversation in the months and years to come. Together, we have a lot of work to do. The work is to make me Supreme Commander, so that I no longer have to pretend to notice your existence & reply to your online petitions & stuff.

Tags: !ProChoice, BarackObama (all tags)

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36 Comments

Re: Obama's response about Choice

dear troll.............

by Politicalslave 2008-07-05 04:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama's response about Choice

  Troll desperation.

by pollbuster 2008-07-05 05:07AM | 0 recs
HECK YEAH

ABORTIONS ON DEMAND FOR ANY REASON THROUGH LIVE BIRTH HECK YEAH.

You will find that most Americans do not agree with you.

by Brandon 2008-07-05 05:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama's response about Choice

Jackass.

by Kysen 2008-07-05 05:35AM | 0 recs
Is that the best you got?

You fail at concern trolling my friend.  There are plenty of good ones around here.  My advice would be to learn from them, get a new username, and try again.  

by Blue Neponset 2008-07-05 05:48AM | 0 recs
Actually this is really good

and more will have to be written about nearly every issue.

Face it: Obama is just another Clinton (without the intern blow job).

by neaguy 2008-07-05 06:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Actually this is really good
Face it: Obama is just another Clinton (without the intern blow job).

Only a Republican would make this comment. Smearing two Dems in the same sentence.
by MS01 Indie 2008-07-05 08:24AM | 0 recs
Bit of a reach, don't ya think? n/t

by sricki 2008-07-05 06:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama's response about Choice

Local authorities said the man, known at left-leaning blogs as "gaf," was found in Fredrickson's barn at approximately 1:30 a.m. Thursday night. He was nude and allegedly molesting the farmer's sheep. He was immediately arrested and will be arraigned this afternoon. He had no comment for this article.

See? It's funny because I put it in a blockquote!

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-07-05 07:58AM | 0 recs
No further comments necessary.

by Beren 2008-07-05 08:07AM | 0 recs
Thread over. You win. (n/t)

by mistersite 2008-07-05 08:17AM | 0 recs
Elect first, as questions later.

I want to see a Dem beat a Republican. I dont' even care that much for Barack Obama. I just wanna see McCain lose.

by Lakrosse 2008-07-05 08:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Elect first, as questions later.

I don't agree with your reasoning 100%....but, we are most definitely working towards the same goal, so mojo to you!!

by Kysen 2008-07-05 08:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama's response about Choice

Not as good as Engels.

by rfahey22 2008-07-05 08:48AM | 0 recs
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Dear Gaf,

I need to refer you back to your PUMA handbook, particularly sections 5a "Sense of Humor" removal.

You see, as a newly minted Republic, not only has your sense of proportion, ethics and morals been removed and been replaced by an overload of cognative dissonance, and in addition you no longer have what we in the democratic party refer to as

"a sense of humor."

In the future, do not attempt in any form Satire or Satiric cleverness, as it will come out, as this diary has, as hamhanded, lacking any sense of style or originality.

Unfortunately, YOU will think you are being clever and this is hilarious, but those of us who STILL have our sense of humor will understand this for what it is, the virtual defintion of LAME!

Good luck to you, and my advice is, for your humor in the future, stick to Dennis Miller and reruns of Hannity and O'Reilly shows.

Best Regards,

WashStateBlue

by WashStateBlue 2008-07-05 08:49AM | 0 recs
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I don't think any compromise about reproductive rights should involve men. the entire point is for women to control our own bodies, without having men, who are physically stronger and hold far more political and economic power, given rights that apply only to women.  When men can bear children without needing a woman's body, and when those 'fathers' are legally required to care for the health and care for their offspring, then maybe they can get involved in some compromise.

The correct response of any man when asked about reproductive rights is that this affects women, the responsibility falls on women, the health consequences are for women only, and it's up to each women and her doctor to decide what she wants to do with her own body.

When rape and incest disappear, when all children, no matter what their mother's circumstances, have adequate food and health care and the same opportunity as any other child to reach the American dream, then women will be able to make the choices that affect pregnancy, without needing to rely on abortion as a back up.  

by anna shane 2008-07-05 08:49AM | 0 recs
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"I don't think any compromise about reproductive rights should involve men", why, a women can't get pregnant without a mans sperm?

by venician 2008-07-05 10:06AM | 0 recs
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Jacking off on the sidewalk doesn't mean you own the sidewalk.    
The only person who owns a woman's body is the woman.  

Is that simple enough for you to understand?  

by KathleenM1 2008-07-05 10:19AM | 0 recs
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So when a man ejaculates inside of a women, she then owns his sperm?

by venician 2008-07-05 10:27AM | 0 recs
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Then I guess the woman should do a better job of keeping a man's sperm out of her body. Men don't have any interest in this? Men are also fathers, brothers, husbands, lovers, grandfathers, etc...  Also, half of all fetuses that are aborted are male. It seems that doesn't count for anything in your world. BTW, my stance on abortion is very close to Obama's. I am all for the morning after pill, sex education, unrestricted rights to first and second-trimester abortions, etc...

by MS01 Indie 2008-07-05 10:27AM | 0 recs
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MS couldn't agree with you more.

by venician 2008-07-05 10:30AM | 0 recs
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A male can neither force nor prevent an abortion.  Of course, once a male becomes pregnant, he's free to choose abortion or labor-and-delivery for himself.  

It doesn't get much simpler than that.  

by KathleenM1 2008-07-05 10:34AM | 0 recs
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And that's fair? After all the fetus was created by two people.

by venician 2008-07-05 10:40AM | 0 recs
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I said nothing about forcing or preventing an abortion. I'm saying that men have a stake in a pregnancy also and that shutting them out of the process completely is not right. Having an opportunity for input doesn't mean forcing anything on anyone.

by MS01 Indie 2008-07-05 11:03AM | 0 recs
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Anybody can have input into anything.  
A woman is free to accept or reject any opinion she chooses.  

When it comes to making DECISIONS, only one person gets to decide about a pregnancy -- the one who carries it.  

by KathleenM1 2008-07-05 11:10AM | 0 recs
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So what you are saying is that if a wife comes to her husband and tells him she is getting an abortion that the husband should just shut up and go along with it? He shouldn't let her know what he thinks about the decision?

by MS01 Indie 2008-07-05 11:05AM | 0 recs
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I'm saying exactly what I've said all along.  
Only ONE person owns the decision about an abortion.  And it ain't the one who has no pregnancy role whatsoever.  
by KathleenM1 2008-07-05 11:17AM | 0 recs
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So women can conceive on their own now?

by venician 2008-07-05 11:34AM | 0 recs
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Conception ain't pregnancy.  
Ejaculation ain't gestation.  

Try a biology book.  

by KathleenM1 2008-07-05 12:01PM | 0 recs
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Venician. Check out her posting history. She'll take any contrary position she can to stir up a flame war. Might be someone's uncle charlie for all we know.
Uncle Mccain.... is that you?
by Terminus 2008-07-05 01:37PM | 0 recs
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Yeah, after I took a brief look I thought it best just not to engage.

by venician 2008-07-05 02:53PM | 0 recs
this was another cave-in

The DEM response about health of the mother over abortion has always been that mental health must be included in the criteria.  This is because for so many women, the pregnancy causes extreme psychological distress.  I mean extreme, to the point of suicide or homicide.

I understand the countervailing argument related to late term abortions.  But to give a categorical ban on mental health considerations by the Government is  taking away a woman's right to her body by fiat.

Obama has a habit of issuing incredibly stark statements that he has to walk back from.  It shows his intellectual honesty and his lack of experience in governance.  His naive statement about an undivided Jerusalem before AIPEC was another such gaffe.  He stepped on delicate diplomatic negotiation positions by his statement.

I have to wonder if he is so focused on winning that he has lost sight of governing.

by spoot 2008-07-05 12:43PM | 0 recs
Re: this was another cave-in

I have to wonder about people who just started posting here. Why wait until after the most exciting primary race to start commenting on a democratic political blog. Just saying.

by venician 2008-07-05 01:01PM | 0 recs
What, you see deep dark motives?

Well I am a Clinton voter, was on KOS until I decided it was too big and too slanted for Obama and then came here.

I don't post much because it takes too long for me to write my posts (notice how long they usually are!).  I post on KOS and here only but I read a lot of other stuff, left blogoshere and right as well, just to keep informed.

I am definitely an Obama skeptic so make of that what you will.  

I do think he will be the next president for sure.  I do wish I could believe in him more and I am very concerned about the next few years of this country, I think they are make or break years.

I am now gonna log off the computer because I have been on for two many hours and I am neglecting other stuff...

by spoot 2008-07-05 01:10PM | 0 recs
OOps, too many hours, not two. Doh.

by spoot 2008-07-05 01:11PM | 0 recs
Re: this was another cave-in

"mental distress" does not equal mental health

by MS01 Indie 2008-07-05 01:43PM | 0 recs

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