They Just Don't Get It

"In record numbers, Americans voted on Tuesday for a skillful presidential nominee promising change, but "change" should not be confused with a license to raise taxes, drive up wasteful government spending, weaken our security, or give more power to Washington, Big Labor bosses and the trial bar. Americans did not vote for higher taxes to fund a redistribution of wealth; drastic cuts in funding for our troops; the end of secret ballots for workers participating in union elections; more costly obstacles to American energy production; or the imposition of government-run health care on employers and working families." - John Boehner Washington Post

    Did this guy see the same campaign and election that I saw? In the campaign that I saw President-elect Barack Obama laid out in no uncertain terms what his agenda was and what he wanted to accomplish. There were no hidden innuendos or code words; he stated as a matter of fact what he felt the government's role was and how he planned to implement that role. And despite Mr. Boehner's claims to the contrary, the majority of the American public voted to accept this candidate and his agenda. We have seen for the last two election cycles the electorate's repudiation of the Republican ideas and their tactics and yet they continue to believe that nothing has changed. Many of them feel that the reason they lost was because they weren't right of center enough. If this continues this Party will be replaced by another one and they will become strictly a regional and rural Party.

    My belief is that the Republicans in the Congress are going to become obstructionists as they were during the 90's. They are exposing to the American people that they are devoid of original thought and so rather than propose they merely condemn. In the current political climate I don't think the people are going to be responsive to that type of politics. I just hope the Democrats do not respond to this election as they did after the 2006 election with fear and trepidation. If the Republicans goal is to remain adrift in the wilderness then this is the way to do it. Mr. Boehner wrote of Republican ideas to solve the economic crisis but from what I and many of my fellow citizens heard trickledown economics is not going to sell. I think the majority of people are tired of being trickled on, I know I am.

    Maybe I am crazy but I thought if you ran on a platform and you won by an impressive margin then you get to enact that platform. Mr. Boehner obviously feels that the margin of victory wasn't convincing enough. What he refuses to see is not necessarily in the raw numbers of how many, but in who voted for whom. The Republicans may have won the cultural debate but they have lost the intellectual debate. Many of the so-called Reagan Democrats and moderate Republicans voted for President-elect Obama. He won in the 100,000 income group, the 200,000 income group, and with the suburban voters. I have never agreed with the Reagan Democrat lie, those voters are just socially conscious Republicans. If it were not for the die-hard Southerners who many as we know voted on issues besides competence in this election, the rout would have been unprecedented.

    President-elect Obama was able to forge a new majority that resembles more of how America resembles. The country is changing and someone forgot to tell the Republicans. President-elect Obama won the Latino vote, the advanced degree vote, and the urban vote. America is becoming darker, smarter, and more urbane and the cultural warfare argument has lost its appeal among these voters. What the Republicans don't realize is that there are more "other" Americans than there are "real" Americans and that base is shrinking all the time. It's funny how the Republican apologists have settled on two causes for their defeat and they are the economic downturn and Governor Sarah Palin. I disagree on both counts. While an impending depression does have a tendency to hurt the incumbent party I don't think that the downturn in and of itself caused the campaign melt-down of Senator McCain. Many point to his small lead in September that vanished with the news of the melt-down. This idea completely ignores two very important facts. The first is that the policies of the Republicans led to this debacle. It wasn't like this was the result of some unpredictable calamities. The second is that it ignores the response of Senator McCain to the crisis. As far as Governor Palin is concerned granted she was a Hail-Mary but let's face it McCain was going to lose anyway. This was not the election for two pasty old white dudes to win. That was not what the country was looking for.

    So it is my hope that Republicans continue to live in their alternative reality of phony outrage and crisis's while we continue to offer the new America "a change they can believe in". I use to think these people were bad people but that is not the case. They just don't get it and I am not sure they ever will.

"You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do." - Anne Lamott

The Disputed Truth

Tags: Democrats, Election 2008, John Boehner, John McCain, President Barack Obama, Republicans, Sarah Palin (all tags)



Re: They Just Don't Get It

They don't want to get it.  They just want to keep trying to change reality to fit their rhetoric.

by Sychotic1 2008-11-12 05:02AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It

"It is very difficult to make someone understand something when their fortunes depend upon them not understanding."  Vladmir Lenin

by the mollusk 2008-11-12 06:01AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It

I like it!!!!!

by Forgiven 2008-11-12 06:03AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It

That's actually Mark Twain.

by Jess81 2008-11-12 10:36AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It

Now someone's telling me that it's Upton Sinclair.

It's not Lenin is all I know.

by Jess81 2008-11-12 10:38AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It

You are correct, sir (or madam)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it."
    Upton Sinclair on_Sinclair/

by the mollusk 2008-11-12 10:43AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It

Relate it to their disastrous strategy in 2007. They thought that if they just kept the Democrats from getting any of their agenda accomplished, Americans would blame the Democrats for the gridlock. But it's simply not possible to call a duck a chicken in this day and age. People saw and heard exactly what happened and they weren't fooled.

And so now, they're trying the same old thing. Just tell people over and over that Obama's policies are dangerous and expect to be believed. The really dangerous part for them is that they have put their credibility entirely on the line. If Obama's policies don't fail, they have to come up with a new philosophy before they win again.

by vcalzone 2008-11-12 08:09AM | 0 recs
I don't.

So it is my hope that Republicans continue to live in their alternative reality of phony outrage and crisis's while we continue to offer the new America "a change they can believe in".

The Republican Congressional leadership is shamed and their caucuses were quite literally decimated: they lost around 10% of their power in Congress in both houses.

I don't want them to keep obstructing.  I want them to come to their senses and realize that they need to be a viable opposition party if they're ever going to return to power.  I want them to work with the Democrats and provide the common sense conservative ideas that will keep our side from going too hog-wild.

If they fail to do that, then, yes, they need to lose more.  I'm done with this stupid partisan punishment thing, though.  We won; we get to be the adults that the Republicans refused to be.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-12 05:04AM | 0 recs
Re: I don't.

And if they don't? What should we do then?

by Forgiven 2008-11-12 05:18AM | 0 recs
I just told you.

I said that if they continue to be obstructionist, they need to lose more.  Didn't you read that?

I'm just saying that I don't want it to come to that.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-12 05:26AM | 0 recs
It helps to show people, not TELL them..

The GOP is so out of touch with America because they have devoted huge amounts of energy to Reagan style "plausible denial", which is basically being able to lie and say you do not understand problems. Its all an act, they do understand problems, they just want to avoid dealing with them until the looting part of the looting and pillaging is over.. or until they are in power again. They have devoted huge amount of effort into spinning their web of alternate reality for the uninitiated, and they don't want that investment to go to waste by admitting ANYTHING.


Dracomicron, as I recall you play the same game with me over healthcare, you pretend not to understand how the issue impacts real people.

In that context, can you see what they are doing?

Its blatant propaganda.

by architek 2008-11-12 07:02AM | 0 recs
Hey architek.

I don't play any games on health care.  You're a one-issue voter without any interest in the baby steps necessary to make changes as large as we both want.  I'm willing to take the baby steps.  That's not a game, that's a difference of strategy.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-12 07:20AM | 0 recs
Don't be naive

But it will come to that. The GOP is not going to become a "viable opposition" party. They are not going to work with the Democrats or provide "common sense conservative ideas" (which is pretty much an oxymoron these days). There is nothing in the history of the GOP, or in the words they are using after losing this election in a landslide that indicates they have any intention of playing nice.

We're in power now, and we need to use that power to reverse all of the bad things they did when they were in power. Believing that the GOP is suddenly going to "come to their senses" is simply naive.

by LakersFan 2008-11-12 11:02AM | 0 recs
Not in the whole history?

Eisenhower?  Lincoln?

The Republicans haven't always been bad, and they don't have to always be bad in the future.  We can give them a chance to clean up their act, letting the moderates re-take their party from the neocons, sadistic capitalists, and fundamentalists, or we can just assume they'll fail and watch it become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Have we not learned from 1994?  Have we not seen a "permanent" majority go sour?  Must we aquire as large a chip on our shoulders?

by Dracomicron 2008-11-12 11:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Not in the whole history?

Not in the history of the modern Republican party. Certainly not since Nixon. The GOP is still controlled by the same cast of bad characters and they're still pulling the same old dirty tricks. As long as they continue with inflammatory and divisive rhetoric, it's obvious their plan is to be obstructionists. If they change their tune and elect better congressional leadership I may revise my opinion. But so far, they've done nothing to deserve the benefit of the doubt.

by LakersFan 2008-11-12 12:17PM | 0 recs
Fair enough

I agree that they've got to cut it with the fearmongering stuff if they ever want to be taken seriously.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-12 12:28PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't.

We don't need many to pop off and join us. Just about five or so. That's doable if we arrange it so those five look like heroes instead of turncoats in the press.

by vcalzone 2008-11-12 08:10AM | 0 recs
Very true

I'm hoping that Obama's initiatives get more than 60 votes because he's going to be riding a wave of popularity on big, important issues.  Moderate Republicans will start to enjoy looking like the good guys again.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-12 08:16AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It
I just hope that their obstructionism merits punishment, it comes quickly and not on the delayed payback plan.
That's right, I'm hoping the American people do what they should at the ballot box, if not in 2010, definitely in 2012.
But since we're taling abou8t the Utterly Stupid and Addled, I'm not holding out any hope.
by spirowasright 2008-11-12 07:13AM | 0 recs
Young People Want Results

Voters under 30 voted heavily for Obama because they want the cultural wars to end. They want their president to solve problems and move beyond the fights of the 1960s. Unfortunately, most lawmakers in Washington are now babyboomer and it will be very hard for them to change. Among these people, the Vietnam War and the social strife of the 1960s is what has shaped their world view. Enforcing a moral code is what's most important to them. I will be very surprised to see much cooperation from the Republicans.

by Zzyzzy 2008-11-12 07:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Young People Want Results

We don't need much. We only need enough that it gets our policies through. That's why half of Obama's named team thus far were chosen as liasons to Capitol Hill.

by vcalzone 2008-11-12 08:13AM | 0 recs
Not Much, will still take alot of political skill

Clinton couldn't get a single Republican to cooperate with him on his economic policy. Fortunately, senate rules forbid fillibuster on budget matters.

In 1993, the fillibuster was used rarely. The tradition was that senators only fillibustered legislation that proposed great social change, like the Civil Rights Bill. Since then, 60 is the new majority. Obama is going to have to work real hard to keep all of the Democrats in line and to get just a couple of Republicans to pass his proposals.

by Zzyzzy 2008-11-12 09:12AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It

OK I don't get it.

List what Obama is going to do in office in his first 6 months.

If he doesn't try and do those things then we will know that its YOU who don't get it...

by dtaylor2 2008-11-12 10:06AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It

Here you go, let's see if you get it 8/11/president-obamas-agenda.html

by Forgiven 2008-11-12 10:52AM | 0 recs
Re: They Just Don't Get It

Actually, they do get it. They're out of power, so they're trying to exert control the only way they can -- by controlling the narrative. They're putting all of their buzzwords out there trying to get the MSM to adopt their language so they can continue to exert influence over public policy. It's much easier to kill health care reform if you call it "socialism". It's much easier to undermine Obama's authority and mandate if you call him a "radical". It's much easier to send soldiers to die in Iraq if you claim that doing otherwise would "weaken our security". It's much easier to prevent any relief for working families if you call it "redistributing the wealth". It's much easier to be an obstructionist, and do absolutely nothing to help the American people if you can get the MSM endlessly repeating, "The sky is falling! We can't possibly afford any of those progams now!"

Don't be fooled. They know exactly what they're doing. And right now, it's especially important for liberals to push back and not allow the narrative to be controlled by the conservative agenda. We won. When these buzzwords are thrown around, it's up to us put a stop to it and rewrite the narrative in our own terms.

by LakersFan 2008-11-12 10:23AM | 0 recs
I thought the Republicans made the issues

quite clear in this campaign.  If we voted for Obama, if I understood the Republicans correctly, we were voting for radical liberal socialism.  Has something changed?

by Dumbo 2008-11-12 10:40AM | 0 recs
Re: I thought the Republicans made the issues

You can't take them at their word though.

by Forgiven 2008-11-12 10:51AM | 0 recs


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