DNC Report: Dean's Fresh Horses & Hillary's Unknown Forces

Update [2005-1-24 16:20:5 by Fiat Lux]: Several MyDD'ers and others are sending letters to Hillary. If you want to write a letter, please go to the bottom of this diary for several posted samples (and again: Be positive. No threats)

----- Per the request by Driving Votes to blog to MyDD...

"Some of you in the DNC may see us as barbarians at the gate. Some of us see ourselves as the cavalry. The truth is, we are fresh horses." --- Miles Kurland, a grassroots DFA activist speaking directly to a large group of DNC members at the DNC Western Regional Caucus, 1/22/05

"I asked a DNC member I know personally, what he thought about Dean's chances. He said there is really one main impediment and gave a very simple, direct suggestion for activists. He said, 'you need to apply tremendous pressure to Hillary.' I asked, 'Are you saying she's in the way?' He replied: "Yes!" --- EmilyD, from DailyKos account of conversation at DNC Western Regional Caucus, 1/22/05

By now, many of you probably have read several eyewitness accounts of the DNC Caucus in Sacramento on Saturday. You may also know about the rumblings behind the scenes (and now in Newsweek) that Hillary Clinton MAY make a power play to derail Howard Dean.

I attended the caucus and I'd like to make a few hopefully salient observations as well as rally Dean Democrats to action as we enter the stretch run of this campaign.

More below the fold...

RULE #1: SHOW UP!

DFA handed out promotional materials to all attendees, and the first bullet point listed explained Dean's succinct plan for turning red states blue: "Show Up!". They could have been describing how Dean's supporters will help him become DNC Chair. For example, of the 450 reported RSVP's at the breakfast hosted by the California Democratic Council, 95% appeared to be Dean supporters. While nearly every grassroots speaker (chosen by lottery) endorsed Dean, there were other impressive indicators of who "showed up"...

FRESH HORSES

To contain applause, blue (supportive) and red (non-supportive) cards were handed out by the CDC to allow the breakfast crowd to express themselves during 90-second speeches by grassroots activists to a large number of DNC members in attendance (memo to NYC event: try this!). Whenever a speaker endorsed Dean, the sea of blue was absolutely overwhelming. In addition, "Howard DEAN for DNC Chair" buttons were EVERYWHERE, dominating the "flair" competition between the various candidates. The most memorable comment from a grassroots speaker came from activist Miles Kurland, from North Bay DFA, who described Dean Democrats not as "barbarians at the gate," but as "fresh horses" ready to revitalize the Democratic Party.

Marisa's pictures give you a nice feel for the event:

http://divdb.com/gallery/DFA-Sacramento-January-2005 

PRIDE (IN THE NAME OF LOVE)

After the breakfast room had emptied out so that people could register for the caucus itself, it was announced that Howard Dean would make a short speech. People streamed back into the room, and within minutes Dean had the audience's rapt attention, including several "electeds" hovering in the back of the room. Several standing ovations ensued, but the most delightful moment came when Dean started ticking off the red states Dems would win in the future... Ohio... Florida... Montana... Nevada... With each state, Dean's voice grew louder and louder until finally --- with a cheshire cat-grin on his face --- he pumped his fist and simply said, with somewhat more constraint, "Yahoo!". Laughs and smiles all around. And another standing ovation.    

ZEN AND THE ART OF EMPOWERMENT

In a twist on Dean's "You Have the Power" mantra, Dean said in one of his more reflective moments: "I'm not much of a Zen guy, but I've learned that the best way to gain power is to give it away." Uproarious applause. In this one statement, Dean once again demonstrated that he knows he is NOT the savior of the Democratic Party. We are. You. Me. Us. That's right --- look in the mirror. You have the fresh horse-power.

WHAT I WANNA KNOW IS...

Who would have thought --- two years ago at the height of the run-up to the invasion of Iraq --- that this man would be on the verge of leading the party? And to think that it all began in March 2003 when he courageously called out the Democrats at a convention in Sacramento, asking "What I want to know is... what in the world so many Democrats are doing supporting the President's unilateral intervention in Iraq?" (Listen here).

THE UNIVERSE WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS

Watching the caucus today, I got the feeling that this was all meant to be. Dean for America scaling unfathomable heights and then crashing and burning in an Iowa cornfield. Democracy for America rising from the ashes of that disaster and producing the sweat equity, shoe leather, mouse pads and yes... small donations... that fueled John Kerry's candidacy to 48% of the popular vote against a sitting president in a time of war.

And now, in the heap that is Kerry's failed campaign (not for OUR lack of support), Howard Dean is about to emerge triumphant from the grave consigned to him by the political and chattering classes.

Hey, let's be honest --- Dean LOST the nomination. He blew it. And rather ignominiously. And yet he still inspires thousands of people across the country to not only vote, but get INVOLVED. To put the "democracy" back in the Democratic Party. Why? Because it's not about him. It's about us.

WE WIN... NO MATTER WHAT

Whether or not Dean wins the race for DNC chair, WE still win. If he's the chair, we've got a foothold within the citadel. And, if he is elbowed out by a backroom deal, we come back stronger than ever... in 2008. What more motivation would we need?

HILLARY'S UNKNOWN FORCES?

I can corroborate the comment above attributed to an anonymous DNC member regarding Hillary's potential meddling in the race for DNC Chair. I spoke with this DNC member separately and he made the same statement in our conversation.

Howard Fineman's latest Newsweek article captures this "fear and loathing":

Democrats, meanwhile, divided into familiar warring camps: for and against Howard Dean. In Burlington, Vt., Dean and hundreds of fans gathered for an "un-Inauguration"--and in support of the former governor's quest to become the new chairman of the Democratic Party. In Georgetown that same evening,  hordes of insiders partied at the stately home of Mark Penn, the Clinton family pollster, where they gripped and grinned with Bill and Hill, cheered each other up--and fretted about Dean's assault on party headquarters. "There was a ton of positive energy at the house," a guest said later, "except for the fear and loathing of Dean."

They're not scared of Dean. They're scared of us. With or without them, we ARE the future of this party. We have the power.

TAKE ACTION: HILLARY NEEDS YOUR INPUT!

The DNC member said that if we want Dean elected DNC Chair, we need to "apply tremendous pressure to Hillary."

OK, MyDD'ers, take just a few minutes and let Hillary know why we feel Howard is just what the "doctor" ordered for our ailing Democratic Party. Talk about why you got involved and why this matters to you. But MOST IMPORTANTLY, explain why Dean would actually HELP Hillary by cranking the base of the party and NOT alienating this grassroots goldmine. 

Be positive. No threats. Just encouraging words from hundreds of Dean supporters demonstrating why he is the best person for the job (as opposed to issuing a screed against Hillary herself). The message: through sheer numbers, we can demonstrate that it would be STRATEGICALLY foolish for Hillary to attempt to manipulate the outcome to defeat Dean. Let's use our newfound power wisely.

Here's HILLARY'S CONTACT INFO:

http://clinton.senate.gov/offices.html (e-mail and snail mail)

(202) 224-4451 (DC offices)

(212) 688-6262 (NYC offices)

While you're at it, if you live in a state with a Democratic Governor, then please contact them and express your support for Dean. Dean actually made this explicit request on the organizer conference call last week, so this is a directive straight from the top (and it's different than flooding DNC members with mail --- as Dean does NOT want us to do --- Governors actually have staff to deal with constituent services).

And finally, for those who want to make our presence known at the DNC Eastern Regional Caucus in New York City on 1/29, you can find ride shares at Driving Votes:  http://www.drivingvotes.org.

Let's get this done.

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71 Comments

Well isn't that interesting
I finally posted my diary of personal comments and observations from Sacramento that I couldn't post last night because of wifi problems and already my diary is dated.

This is probably the last threat to Dean becoming DNC Chair. I wish I could explain the DLC animosity any other way than an obsessive compulsion to hold on to power and control the purse strings. I can't. This entirely changes my neutrality towards Rosenberg. Last night I thought he was an acceptable reform alternative. Not any longer.

The DLC plainly sees Dean as a far more serious threat to their power base and will do anything to bring him down. Maybe O'Reilly and Morris are right about Hillary. Her only interest is raw, naked power and she will not let anything get in the way of her blind ambition.

by Gary Boatwright 2005-01-23 12:55PM | 0 recs
Let's get something straight
They are trying to bring us down. Damn, this  is the Dean campaign all over again. As noted, they are not afraid of Dean, they are afraid of us.

That just pisses me off to no end.

by michael in chicago 2005-01-23 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Let's get something straight
No, this is worse...this makes the Dean campaign look like fair play.

If I were trying to win the nomination in 2008 as a well known politician, I would not want to get involved in this. I would understand if another candidate retaliated to this....but that means Hillary suspects that Dean already has a favorite for '08. Unless it's himself (which I don't think it would be) I think this sort of meddling is bad news.

It portends that there's going to be a split in '08 between Deaniacs and Clintonistas. So even if we make gains elsewhere, we could still lose to a lightweight Republican for President. My guess is though if Dean ran as an independent he would do better than Hillary.

FYI: I tend to think that if this happens and we get stuck with Mitt Romney for 4 years, the obvious stone cold lock pick in '12 is Spitzer (perhaps with Obama as his VP). But I also think America in 2012 will be a lot more cognizant of "liberal" ideas because of what's going to happen between then and now in terms of foreign policy, economic policy, and demographics.

by risenmessiah 2005-01-23 02:39PM | 0 recs
What?
O'Reilly may be right about Hillary? Give me a break. Ok, maybe they're right about everything they say about the fringe-left of the democratic party?

Then again, Bill O hasn't been right about a damn thing in his life. What a pathetic thing to say. Great way to lose 2008.

by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-23 10:44PM | 0 recs
Hillary is not the enemy. And neither is Howard.
I gotta agree with you --- Bill O'Reilly is the real enemy. Not Hillary. Or Howard.

We're on the same team. Let's start acting like it.

Enough with the Hillary bashing --- all we can go on is that she is doing what anyone in her position would likely do (even Dean). Howard Fineman's piece isn't exactly an indication that anything truly untoward is happening.

And until there is real PROOF that Hillary is actually being underhanded (i.e. unnecessarily meddling in the process), we need to focus on convincing her that supporting Dean is in her strategic best interests.

See Bill from Chicago's letter below for an excellent example of what we need to be telling Hillary about Dean.

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 10:59PM | 0 recs
My email to Senator Clinton
I understand you have some reservations about Gov Dean as DNC chair.

I want to make it clear from the outset that I am not, at this time, a registered Democrat, though I supported Kerry/Edwards and generally prefer Democratic candidates I broke with the Democratic Party in 1996.

I left because I was sickened at the impaired functioning of the National Party, and the lack of will to fight rather than compromise the essential principles of the party of FDR, LBJ, Hubert Humphrey and Jimmy Carter.

You no doubt disagree with my assessment. You may even feel insulted by it-if you indeed even read it at all-but you are too canny a political mind not to know that many, many people feel the same way I do.

Please note that I said principles, and not policies. It is not the conservative or liberal barometer that concerns me. It's the fight for a more fair, just, and inclusive America that I seek.

Even as an unaffiliated voter, I'm watching the DNC Chair selection very closely. Largely, that's because of Howard Dean. Because he champions real democratic (lower case not a typo) reform measures. What his selection will indicate to me is that the Democratic Party leadership is indeed serious about changing the way it does business. It's the only scenario in which I think it likely that I will be one of the "fresh horses" in the coming campaigns.

Because following the same strategies and expecting a result any different than the heartbreak of 2004 (at best) is institutional insanity.

Have you not had enough of being marginalized as a political party? Heaven knows, I had enough long ago.

by boadicea 2005-01-23 01:22PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to Senator Clinton
I'm sending one tonight. I don't really think Hillary or the DLC cares. This is a power play, pure and simple. They aren't interested in the grassroots and the see the netroots as a threat. If Dean doesn't get the chair position I'm ready to move on. I'll keep attending DFA for a while, but my patience is really running on vapors.
by Gary Boatwright 2005-01-23 01:28PM | 0 recs
I'm not ready to move on
If Dean get's pincushioned again, I'm not going anywhere. If they are afraid of us now, just wait. They try to undermine the guy who still can fire up their base the weekend after George get's sworn in and they are in for an uprising from the bottom up.

We are their base. They need us.

by michael in chicago 2005-01-23 01:36PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm not ready to move on
Naw..as the Kerry campaign showed they would rather destroy the party than to hand over the reigns.
by Parker 2005-01-23 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm not ready to move on
I see another DLC hatchet job on Dean as a complete rejection of the grassroots. The reason I am ready to Move On is that this would be the last signal I need that the Democratic leadership is not interested in reform unless it occurs on their terms; with them still in charge of the purse strings, the ATM and the disbursement of contributions.

I was ready to accept Rosenberg if the process was reasonably transparent and legitimate. With Fineman's article the DNC has lost the legitimacy of grassroots support. They are sending a message loud and clear that the consultancy elite has replaced smokefilled back rooms and the consultancy favorites will continue to be paid on commission.

by Gary Boatwright 2005-01-23 03:39PM | 0 recs
Jolly: that's only two strikes... there's one left
Jolly -

I understand how you feel. But consider this:

If Dean loses the chairmanship to a backroom deal orchestrated by DLC types, he is going to be that much harder to stop in 2008. He'll be --- and we'll be --- the DLC's worst nightmare.

That dynamic, in addition to the potential financial and foreign policy calamities of the next four years will only further bolster Dean as the only politician telling the truth. We're talking somethin akin to Teddy Roosevelt and trustbusting --- except now the "trust" is the Democratic Party. And Dean is TR.

That's why I say this is a win/win. We'll know exactly where we stand on Feb. 12 and we'll be able to strategize for 2008 accordingly.

Now, if Dean runs for president in 2008 and he gets screwed again, then you have every justification to leave the Party on a "three strikes (2004, 2005, 2008) and I'm outta here" basis.

Change does not come easy. Just ask the abolitionists. Or the suffragists. Or the civil rights movement. So, let's see what Dean does if he loses the chairmanship. I suspect --- given how tremendous his grassroots support is --- that he'll come back stronger than ever and ask all of us to stick with him. I, for one, will have his back until 2008.

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 07:01PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to Senator Clinton
May not help, but it feels better than doing nothing.

I suspect you're right about it being a power play, which is why I ended it the way I did.

We shall see. My patience, as noted, ran out long ago. I'm almost certain I'll get my political heart broken again, then I'll have to decide if I stay Indy or go Green.

by boadicea 2005-01-23 01:43PM | 0 recs
My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
I wrote, in part:

As a New Yorker, I write to encourage you to do all you can to prevent the Democratic party from making the mistake of choosing Howard Dean as the next DNC Chair.  I know the fast majority of mail you are receiving is in support of Dr. Dean, but you should know that there are as many Dems out here who appreciate what damaged goods Dean has become.  It is with great urgency that I encourage you to pull out all the stops in preventing this train wreck.

by BRockNYLA 2005-01-23 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
Okay, so what evidence do you have to prove that Dean as chair of the DNC would be a "train wreck"?  

What just really gets to me about this kind of bullshit is that these idiots conveniently omit the tremendous work that DFA does.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to forsee Dean would bring the DNC up to the level of DFA.  AND DFA HAS A GOOD TRACK RECORD OF GETTING PEOPLE ELECTED!!

by dayspring 2005-01-23 02:26PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
BRock is a war supporter - s/he should join the GOP...
by dryfly 2005-01-23 03:32PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
I am not a war supporter.  Thank you very much.

My problem is that Dean is a spent force outside the left-wing of the party.  He has a huge "image" problem that he needs to deal with on his own and not on our time.  Furthermore, I'm not even convinced he is the right choice regardless of his image problem.  He just seems a little unhinged every time i see him on television.  He should not be the voice of the party at this time.

by BRockNYLA 2005-01-23 04:57PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
If you think that he's been looking unhinged lately, you haven't been watching very closely. And, besides, who really cares what his image is? He's not running for president, for God's sake!

As a matter of fact, a chairman with the reputation for being a bit nutty could be a boon. Think how good he'd be at keeping the Fainthearted Faction in line and "persuading" moderate Republicans to see our point of view.

by craverguy 2005-01-23 08:08PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
actually, I watched him today on 'This Week' and I'm simply not impressed.  Believe it or not, politics is about image.  And having Dean as the voice and face of the party hoping that he can reach NEW dem voters is like sending Newt Gingrich as an envoy to us.  That is the point as I see it. We do not have a national voice.  Dean will surely get people's attention, but not in a good way.  It's all about casting. The more known a figure is to people the more difficult it is to accept something new from them.  Once one image is accepted and known the more difficult it is to embrace a different image.  I'm not saying it is impossible to overcome the familiarity.  I'm merely saying it takes time.  And the time for the reemergence of Dean is not now.  He needs to rebuild his image on his own time.
by BRockNYLA 2005-01-23 09:17PM | 0 recs
BRockNYLA...
I agree with your concerns, and if this thread is any sign of the future, the 2008 primaries are going to be another devisive election year for the democrats. I doubt Kerry would have gotten his 56 mil votes if the dems hadn't united behind him against Bush. It would never have been as close as it was.

I was a Kerry supporter in 2002 when he was prepping his run for nomination. When Dean was surging I stuck with the MA senator when the press left him for dead. I never was too impressed with Dean -- I think he only has this appeal with the far-left of the party. His angry populist rhetoric never appealed to me. But you know whose did? Nader's. And Nader owned Dean when they debated on NPR.

I especially agree with the "unhinged" comment. Three things that Dean said bothered me:

  1. The appeal to southerners in pickup trucks flying the American flag.
  2. Unwise comment regarding the US military not maintaining its dominance. True? Sure. But stupid to say during wartime while running against a war president.
  3. That stupid scream and listing off every hopeless red state that will NEVER vote dem, like Montana, North Dakota, Utah, etc.

But I support Dean for chairman and Hillary in 2008.
by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-23 10:53PM | 0 recs
Correction on #1...
1. The appeal to southerners in pickup trucks flying the CONFEDERATE flag.
by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-23 10:55PM | 0 recs
RE: Dean for Chair, Hillary for President
I'm neutral on 2008 (way too early to be supporting anyone, even Dean), but I certainly respect your courage in posting support for Hillary in a potentially unfriendly environment.

As the author of this diary, I'm glad to see you support Dean despite your reservations. However, having followed Dean very closely for the last two years, I would wholeheartedly disagree with you on the perception that he is "unhinged". But that's a discussion for another day.

For now, I what to re-direct you to what I said below in another thread you were involved in. Until convinced otherwise, I'm against Hillary bashing. And I hope you'll re-consider any Dean bashing... let's call a truce and work together.

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 11:11PM | 0 recs
Re: RE: Dean for Chair, Hillary for President
Maybe "unhinged" was the wrong word. I just think he sometimes lacks the proper tact. Dean is very straitforward and that's a great thing on a personal level, but in politics that can be a liability. It really hurt him in IA when everyone was evaluating him for his overall electability VS chimpy.

I agree completely with working together. In fact I'm an independent, a centrist, and consider myself an ally to liberals. I wanted Bush gone as much as any of you.

I also do not understand the hate directed within the party. Republicans coalesce around their own, which is why they are so successful.

As for BRock, I didn't think he was bashing at all. Just has a different of opinion. If Dean was the nominee in 2004 or 2008 would he have voted for him anyway? I bet he would.

by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-23 11:19PM | 0 recs
Re: RE: Dean for Chair, Hillary for President
You know, back in 1948, Dean's exact brand of "unhinged" won Harry Truman the greatest upset victory in presidential history. "Give 'Em Hell Harry," remember?
by craverguy 2005-01-23 11:24PM | 0 recs
Dean = Truman?
I couldn't agree more.

Dean is the Harry Truman of our time, at least stylistically. One might also compare him to Teddy Roosevelt, again on style points.

The only difference: Truman and TR didn't have a ravenous broadcast media licking its chops every time he picked up a microphone (or a uni-directional mic at a post-caucus rally ;-).

So, one might argue that perhaps Dean is a throwback --- a presidential candidate who would have "translated" better in a bygone era.

Or, as I'd like to hope, perhaps Dean is just ahead of his time. After all, the pendulum of history may swing back in Dean's direction, especially if he is given credit for the resurgence of the Democratic Party in 2006 and then 2008.

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 11:32PM | 0 recs
Re: RE: Dean for Chair, Hillary for President
Let me add my voice to working together.

I really hope people do not misinterpret my concerns for Dean's viability as an effective spokesperson as 'bashing Dean'.  I like the guy.  I just don't think he should be the face/voice of the party.  I hope my expressed opinions have been thoughtful and somewhat fleshed out.  But, I'll be especially careful to refrain from 'Dean bashing'.  The 'Hillary bashing' however is a bit much in these parts.

by BRockNYLA 2005-01-24 06:15AM | 0 recs
Been to DailyKos lately?
THAT'S Hillary bashing. They'd make Free Republic proud.
by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-24 07:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Nader "owning" Dean...
Now, I openly admit my pro-Dean bias. With that out of the way, MyDD-ers, please don't take my word for it, but listen for yourself...

but the statement that Nader "owned" Dean in their debate is ludicrous.

I'm speechless. Nader came off as washed-up, begging anyone to listen to his view, and Dean pointed out many, many times how much he was hurting the progressive movement.

For that matter, I don't think that there was another person (aside from Kerry's family, and Max Cleland) that campaigned more and harder for John Kerry than Howard Dean.

by nickDFT 2005-01-24 07:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Nader "owning" Dean...
I was a Kerry supporter since 2002 and so when Dean agreed to debate Nader on NPR in order to try and convince his supporters to make their votes count, of course I was rooting for Dean.

But when I listened to the debate, Nader had an immediate solid answer for every issue thrown at him. Unlike dems and reps, he wouldn't use qualifiers or quantify issues -- he said it like he thought, viciously attacking corporate interests, the military industrial complex, Bush's absolute failure, and called for the immediate withdrawal of US troops. There were no pauses or hesitancy in his answers. Maybe that's because he never had a realistic chance and no big financiers he had to worry about offending, but even if I didn't agree on everything I had to respect his answers.

Dean's best lines came when he pointed out that Nader was partially funded by republican interest groups which was true and Nader was unapologetic for. He also had great views on reforming the election system, but in agreement with Nader. The problem was that he did use qualifiers and a little waffling in answering questions regarding his past quotes on Kerry, though understandable. He also came off as almost begging or groveling for Nader to drop out of the race.

Most consensus on both sides, lib and con in the media was that Nader beat Dean. Of course Dean supporters will never see that to be so. I was rooting for Dean but even I thought he was beat.

by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-24 07:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Nader "owning" Dean...
>> Most consensus on both sides, lib and con in
>> the media was that Nader beat Dean.

I don't remember it that way. Got some links to back up your claim?

My recollection was that Dean beat Nader and at the very least more than held his own. It was a refreshing debate and another example of why Dean is unafraid to take on all comers.

Just another reason why he'd be a great Chair.

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-24 08:20PM | 0 recs
Re: BRockNYLA...
#1 was a bad choice of words-although his point (that we shouldn't write off the south and need somebody to appeal to them) is valid.

#2 I dunno about.

Now, #3, he was listing off states he wanted to win in the primary, not the general election.  Also, he was miked-the room wasn't.  He was shouting over the loud room, but since he was the only one miked it sounded like he was the only one talking/yelling.

by Geotpf 2005-01-24 09:57AM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
Just look at how the media presents him.  He is seeking to be the voice and face of the party.  That is the problem.  It really doesn't matter what the DFA has done. What is preventing them from continuing to do their good work?  Does that mean we have to choose Dean?  Absolutely not.  If the DFA has been a success it says to me that is where Dean should be...in the background...not on TV.  

stop the madness.

by BRockNYLA 2005-01-23 04:59PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
Why is Dean damaged goods?
Because you right wingers are afraid of him?

I'm only thinking that the Chair should be bland - a neutral
facilitator who is not threatening to candidates.

I continue to think of Dean as a major candidate and presidential material.

He is a strong, outspoken individual, and it seems like this kind
of position would crimp his style.

Maybe he would take the chair position and turn it into something very positive, though.  And Dean's having a high visibility position would be good.

But I don't think that people opposing him as chair deserve to be
bashed.  They have legitimate reasons to be uncomfortable
with this.

Liberal blogs have morphed beyond "energized youth" into something more sinister.

The gang-bang mentality is the one thing that makes me very nervous about blogs and the dons out to whip up the anger.
Reminds me of the mafia behind the teamsters a few years back.

by zinc7 2005-01-23 05:53PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
right winger?  hardly.  i'm more of a pragmatist and not really an idealist.  it's time for some hard nosed reality.  i want to cast people in leadership positions who can actually relate to the average American in a way that very few of our current leaders can.  Bush is an empty suit that the Republican machine uses to advance their agenda.  It is exactly what they did with Reagan.  They cast an amiable dumbass that the average American thinks they can relate to and use them to inflict their extreme agenda.  I think progressives need to get hip to this game and start investing in casting leading men and leading ladies that folks can easily welcome in to their homes...that people like even if they disagree wit them.  
by BRockNYLA 2005-01-23 09:24PM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
I think progressives need to get hip to this game and start investing in casting leading men and leading ladies that folks can easily welcome in to their homes...that people like even if they disagree wit them.  

That person would be Howard Dean.

Keep in mind that the image of Dean as someone who is not likeable is fueled by a Beltway chattering class hell-bent on taking him down because he is not a part of the "in" group currently inside the fortress. In that vein, the "Dean Scream" was the ultimate character assassination --- a mass media masturbation that has completely distorted the man's image.  

Howard Dean is real. He's authentic. He's not a fake. And he would be a great house guest (and so would his wife), certainly more enjoyable than the empty suits that resist him at every turn.

We don't need "leading men" that are poll-tested for likeability. We tried that with Gore and Kerry and look where it got us. We need authenticity. Dean has it,.. and then some.

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 09:42PM | 0 recs
Knoe your audience
I couldn't disagree more.  I understand that it is the chattering class of the beltway that paints this image of Dean.  I'll even submit that it is likely an inaccurate characterization.  However, we mustn't disregard so easily the influence of said chattering class to impose their perception on the American people.  

Gore and Kerry were never portrayed as 'likeable' guys.  They were portrayed as smart guys or electable guys, but never as likeable.  Clinton was the only one who was recently able to establish a persona above the media that people embraced.

Authenticity is over rated and not nearly sufficient.  I'll chose effective over real authenticity every day.  I happen to  believe that Kerry was too authentic.  He is a NE elite and he communicated that pretty consistently.  And we know where that got him.

The question isn't who would WE want to have  over for dinner (what Dem wouldn't want to host Dean or Kerry or Gore?), but whom would a swing voter or a soft Republican want to have over for dinner.  That's my entire point. When it comes to whom could truly be the voice and face for the party over the next couple years (as we battle on Social Security, judges, tax reform, etc) who is going to be most effective relating to the average swing voter and soft Republican voter.  As a lifelong partisan Democrat, I don't need to be whipped up in to a frenzy...I'm already there.  But a couple of my colleagues who voted reluctantly for Bush could use a bit of convincing.  I can assure you it will not be Dean for them.  They would be turned off right away.  So, they turn the channel and walk away uninformed.  That is not a good thing.  So, I think we need a fresh face.  Someone who does not have to battle the media to breakthrough.  Again, it really isn't personal against Dean.  I love the red meat.  But, again, I am not the audience.

by BRockNYLA 2005-01-24 06:02AM | 0 recs
that would be 'know your audience'
by BRockNYLA 2005-01-24 06:02AM | 0 recs
Is this DailyKos?
I thought only Kossacks troll-rate people just because they disagree with their opinions.

I gave you a 3 to counter that Kossack. Everyone has a right to state their opinion.

by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-23 10:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Is this DailyKos?
thank you.  For the first time in my life I've been called 'Republican Light', a 'DLC member' and worst for simply voicing my opinions.  So, thank  you.
by BRockNYLA 2005-01-24 06:05AM | 0 recs
Re: My email to my Senator, Sen. Clinton
I uprated you too.

I disagree with your opinion, however.

by boadicea 2005-01-24 07:18AM | 0 recs
My email to Senator Clinton
I've voted predominately Republican since 1976 in the Deep South conservative states of Tennessee and Alabama.  It was only through Howard Dean's campaign for the Democratic nomination that I began to believe that the Democratic Party stands for ideals that are close to my heart ... indeed, many of those ARE conservative ideals.  It is ONLY through new leadership, like that demonstrated by Howard Dean (as candidate and as former governor) that the Democratic Party will attract and retain voters like myself ... people who love the ideals of America more than the reality of its accomplishments (and in spite of its failings).

Democrats need a leader who will speak up -- not only against George Bush but for a Democratic agenda that is moral, mainstream, and right for America.  We've tried playing by the same set of rules that have worked successfully for the opposition ... it didn't work for us.  We need an agenda that puts values ahead of "campaign tactics."

We need a party that is responsive to the people, much like the government we desire and deserve.  As a new Democratic voter, I want a leader who will inspire me and who will bring our party back to life.

Please give your support to Howard Dean for the DNC chairmanship.  It's time for a change.

by Charles in AL 2005-01-23 02:09PM | 0 recs
Oh, So Most Excellent Post!!
Fiat Lux, I had a blast reading your post. You got the morning, I got the afternoon. Perfect!

And pictures! Yay Marisa!  I wish you could have had the vantage point I had during Dean's (evidently surprise) morning speech-- he was virtually centered on the balloon-flag and it all looked just fine.  Still, the closeup of Dean and the balloons-- El Keeper.

I am amazed at the rumors that Hillary is trying to derail Dean, and badly disappointed if it's true. I was very fond of her and Bill when they appeared in 1992.  Then, like Dean now, they were our shining horses coming out of the mist to carry us out of the dark times. I even made a "candle of protection" for the whole family, and the Gores too, I felt that strongly about it.  

In a speech to Spellman College that I saw on C-Span back then, Hillary described her "little book of quotes" that she keeps, in which she writes down quotes she really likes, when she finds them.  I thought it was a great idear, and started one of my own, which I keep to this day.

So how can she hate Dean?  Both of them served similar functions, both in times of "Bushes", ironically enough.

It doesn't even make any politico-strategic sense. If she has Presidential ambitions, she should want Dean to become DNC Chair, because he has promised he won't run in '08 if he wins it and the way would be clear for Hillary.  

Does she want a Dean/Clinton faceoff in spring of '08? If it happens, I will be there for Dean all the way, sorry Hillary.  I have liked you for years-- but not if you're vindictive and worse, stupid about this.

by ItsBeenCalmingForSomeTime 2005-01-23 03:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, So Most Excellent Post!!
I can't help but think that a lot of this is jealousy on the Clintons' part.  It's not about their fear of where Dean will take the party; it's about their fear that they won't be able to steer and maneuver the party as they've been able to do since 1992.  Dean wasn't their candidate, so he has no obligation to them and can veto their ideas if he is so inclined.
by wilder 2005-01-23 04:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, So Most Excellent Post!!
it may go back to a point before the primaries when Clinton seemed to be nurturing Dean along, and Dean publicly said some critical stuff about Clinton, which was kind of not really a cool thing to do to someone who is befriending you and giving you advice.  People don't forget stuff like that.
by zinc7 2005-01-23 06:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, So Most Excellent Post!!
I don't remember Clinton being particularly nurturing of Dean.  Gore, yes, but not Clinton.  IIRC, Clinton was trying to stay neutral, but had made some signs that his favored candidate was Wesley Clark.
by wilder 2005-01-23 08:10PM | 0 recs
Hillery
GOD i hate her!!!!!

I live in NYS,I was excited when she ran...and she is SUCH  disappointment!!!!

by redjb 2005-01-23 04:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillery
how so?  because she hasn't jumped on the Dean train wreck?  tell me how she has let NYers down?  and don't tell me that you are a one trick (iraq war) pony.
by BRockNYLA 2005-01-23 05:01PM | 0 recs
Quit abusing the rating system DAVE.
Every time I see someone troll rate a comment just because they don't agree with it I'll give it a 3.

And you wonder why half the independents voted Bush? You're acting like a freeper.

by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-23 11:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillery
Honestly,

the War vote did it for me... she KNEW the real deal .....and she played politics....too many lives for these kind of games...

I'll tell you what...if she votes against Gonzales and Rice...I will reconsider...

by redjb 2005-01-24 05:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillery
I'm getting sick of this hate shit against anyone who isn't Howard Dean.

It is starting to seriously turn me against Howard Dean.

by zinc7 2005-01-23 05:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillery
And I'm sick of Clinton ass-kissing.  Not necessarily from you, but in general, because Clinton is apparently the only Democrat on the PLANET who can win, and is therefore a god who can do no wrong, even though none of the candidates he has campaigned for has ever won.
by wilder 2005-01-23 08:14PM | 0 recs
Hey
Don't hate Bubba because he's a rockstar. He would have walked all over Bush in 2000 and 2004, something that can't be said for any other dem candidates in the last two elections. Damn right I'm a Bill Clinton supporter.
by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-23 11:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillery
Hillary is a politician, with a probable interest in running for president at some time.  So, it doesn't surprise me that she would want to have a strong voice in the selection of DNC chairman.  There really are a few reasons not to support Dean for that position, even if those reasons are not real good ones.  Unfortunately one of the best ones is the almost cult-like behavior of his supporters, a behavior that he doesn't seem to be willing to stop.  Another is his statement that DFA will continue under  his direction even if he becomes DNC chair.  That would seem to me to be a conflict of interest - the DNC must be supportive of all Democratic candidates, but DFA picks and choses which ones they support.  For several weeks now my position on DNC chair is that I am very happy not to have to make that choice!  I see it as a very difficult one to make.
by Sacramentohop 2005-01-23 06:43PM | 0 recs
The Future of DFA
Sactohop --- I've been on organizer conference calls with Dean and he is VERY CLEAR about what will happen with DFA if he is elected DNC Chair:

He can NOT lead DFA. Period.

More from the blogforamerica's "The Future of DFA" (although it's nothing definitive):
http://www.blogforamerica.com/archives/005776.html

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 07:18PM | 0 recs
Re: The Future of DFA
From ItsBeenCalmingforSomeTime's diary just above yours:
"Howard Dean: - Q: If you are not chosen, will you and your supporters work with the new DNC chair? A: He will continue to run DFA and support grassroots candidates all over, whichever way the race goes.  ,,,,,,"
by Sacramentohop 2005-01-23 07:56PM | 0 recs
Re: The Future of DFA
Unfortunately, that is an innacurate quote. He indicated that DFA would CONTINUE, but he did not say anything about leading the organization himself. So, by implication, an erroneous conclusion was made.

EVERYTHING ELSE Dean has said indicates that he can not lead DFA if he is Chair of the DNC. This is a cold, hard fact.

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 08:17PM | 0 recs
that was an inaccurate quote
I did not take notes, so I can't purport to give the exact quote...but I listened very carefully to that answer.  He clearly explained (as he consistently has) that if he did NOT get elected as chair, he would remain involved with DFA.  However if he DID get elected, he would not be in any administrative role for DFA.  He also made it clear that as DNC Chair it would be his responsibility to support ALL dem candidates.  Hell, he's the only primary candidate that committed - during the primary - that if he didn't win he would actively campaign for and support the nominee...and then exactly did just that.  If that's not supporting the party and our "values", then what is?

I am not one to kindly take to being called a zealot or blinded by stardom.  I am a rational, intelligent, professional person who does my research and makes informed decisions...as are many of the DFA Dem group I belong to.  It's clear where I stand on Dean, I believe him to be in the best position of all candidates to truly rally the WORKERS of the party...not the Washington elite.  And "Bubba" may indeed be a rock star, but have you been paying attention at ALL to everywhere Dean goes and the crowds and media that follow him?  Do you not get the fact that there are MILLIONS of people who are ready to rally around his leadership for the good of the WHOLE party and everything we stand for???

There is not one other candidate for DNC chair that has that kind of drawing power outside of their own region, much less - I would wager (and I'm not a betting gal) - even within their own constituency, for those that even have one.  Just look...Simon Rosenberg had a Q&A breakfast event.  As Marisa reported, and as did one of our DFA members, there were no more than 15 or 20 people and it was almost all middle-aged white guys of the party power elite.  Where's the base?  By contrast, you've got 400+ people and a number of elected officials in the room cheering for the message and strategy Dean proposes.

Every one of the candidates talked about how we have to not concede to the Republicans.  Every one of them mentioned how we have to pay attention to the base of this party...them that brung ya.  The base are the ones stuffing envelopes, writing LTEs, calling our elected officials and holding them accountable, walking precincts, registering voters, replacing lawn sign after defaced or stolen lawn signs, and let's not forget...of course...DONATING MONEY!!  People won't donate to something they don't believe in.  Which other candidate can say they were responsible for inspiring enough people to out earn the Republicans in a presidential election?  Tell me...where are the base for any of the other candidates?  

So, if not Dean, who?

by Heather in SFBay 2005-01-24 12:39PM | 0 recs
great summaries
from everyone, and I really like the action steps Fiat Lux has put forth.  I was there for the CDC breakfast and for the DNC Q&A.  (In fact, I'm even in a couple of Marisa's photos. ;)  I think with the combined blog reports, y'all have hit most of the words and a lot of the feeling.

There were 13 of us from San Mateo County DFA and several more from the Dean Democratic Club of Silicon Valley, of whom several were selected to speak at the breakfast.  I have to say that Dean speaking wasn't a surprise...we knew he was scheduled to speak and that was among the primary reasons for making the trek...in addition to speaking to the DNC members.  I have to admit that next to listening to Dean, Rev. Al was a highlight.  I loved him in the primaries and continue to believe that he has a voice that demands to be heard...and should be.  Besides, that man sure can speak and rile up the crowd!  

Our guy on the inside also heard from a DNC member about the Hillary factor.  Those in my car on the drive home were all pretty angry about the f***g DLC and power moves.  Primarily, it's the power move for status quo...apparently they want to KEEP losing.  We were discussing our various ideas for strategy to let her know we know and disapprove heartily...which you've pretty much hit.

After listening to all of the candidates answer their questions, I would say that there are those who would be awesome allies to stay on the team, but the leader is still Howard.  Donnie Fowler may represent some of the DNC nepotism and basically adopted the same strategies as Howard, but he's fresh and young and should be on the team somewhere.  Rosenberg may have some decent creds for organization and technology that would make him a strong candidate for a high level strategist, but he doesn't stir the passion.  Wellington Webb is a well spoken, comfortable leader whose strength is really understanding the base of the party and would be great to coordinate our outreach strategies.  My impression of Frost was a whining ninny who kept saying how he lead Texas and beat Karl Rove so many times...well, dude...if you haven't noticed lately, you got your ass wiped in Texas!  Leland was not at all impressive and the snickers around me (including mine) every time Roemer talked assured me he is the charactature of the consummate politician...disliked and not trusted.

One of the messages I believe needs to be clear and I did hear enumerated several times by the grassroots speakers at the breakfast trying to get it in the thick skulls of the DNC members was:

"You know what?  We're not all a bunch of crazies in a cult of personality of some lunatic.  Some of us are new to the fight, some are like prodigal children returning home, and some are battle worn and weary after many years of being beaten down.  We are a bunch of well educated, smart, savvy, talented, enthusiastic and energetic boots on the ground who believe in the message, the vision, and the leadership direction that Howard Dean represents.  We lost once, but look at our strength now...and still!  If you don't take us seriously and don't take advantage of this passion and this willingness to work to take back our country from thousands and thousands of new and "old" voices, then YOU are the crazy lunatics.  If you don't vote for the revitalization of our future as Democrats by electing the man who is responsible for bringing us to the table...then you will lose much more than just elections."

by Heather in SFBay 2005-01-23 04:18PM | 0 recs
HRC
has she endorsed anyone yet?
by kydem 2005-01-23 05:41PM | 0 recs
WHOA
FiatLux, you should post this on DailyKos.  This way as many people will see it as possible, and I know the dKos community will step up to aid Dean.
by Muboshgu 2005-01-23 06:42PM | 0 recs
ah, nevermind
i didnt see it was there.  i expected it to be in the recommended list
by Muboshgu 2005-01-23 06:44PM | 0 recs
Re: ah, nevermind
A kosmopolitan linked to this diary and a very interesting discussion followed (89 comments and counting):

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/23/214159/626

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 07:26PM | 0 recs
Re: ah, nevermind
By "interesting," I don't necessarily mean "illuminating". Seems like some in that dKos diary have been a little overzealous in calling for Hillary's head.

That's not the ticket. We need to follow Dean's lead and go POSITIVE on Hillary. Let her know why this matters and why Dean being DNC Chair would be in her best interests.

If we get derailed again, then 2008 is right around the corner (really, the race begins in mid-2006). And, if Hillary thinks Dean being DNC Chair is a problem for her presidential ambitions, wait until she sees Dean's presidential campaign. That's the dilemma she faces.

For now, as Dean has reminded us, we're on the same team. Let's act like it.

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 08:04PM | 0 recs
Here's my email to her
Dear Senator Clinton,

I have read reports that you may oppose Howard Dean's bid to become Chairman of the DNC. I hope that after reading my thoughts below (and no doubt many similar emails from others) you might reconsider such a stance and perhaps even decide to support the good doctor.

I used to think that just reading the news and voting was all that was required of citizens in a democracy. Then Howard Dean came along and told me I "had the power" and that I had to use it -- that just voting gets you a grade of D in a participatory democracy. If Dean becomes Chairman, people like me (and especially younger people with more time and energy to offer) will respond to his call to service. In fact, there are already hundreds of thousands of grassroots volunteers -- people who worked for "527"s like ACT and PACs such as DFA this election cycle -- who stand ready to work directly for, and contribute to, the Democratic Party if Dean becomes Chairman.

This potential influx of grassroots activism may seem daunting, but it is exactly what the Party needs to begin winning again. At Saturday's DNC Western Regional Caucus, one such Dean-inspired activist put it best when he said, "Some of you in the DNC may see us as barbarians at the gate.... The truth is, we are fresh horses." Right now, the Democratic Party needs a lot of horses.

It's no coincidence that some of the first state chairs and vice-chairs to endorse Dean come from states like Mississippi, Utah, and Oklahoma -- "red" states where Dean's current DFA organization actually helped get Democrats elected in the absence of any meaningful support from the national Party. As Chairman of the DNC, Dean would be able to channel far more resources to every one of the 50 states than DFA could to any of them.

With all three branches of government now fully controlled by the Republicans, the Democrats must stop living election to election and begin laying the groundwork for long-term electoral success. More than anyone else, Howard Dean understands how to do this and can bring the DNC the resources needed to implement his strategy. I hope you will support him and allow Dean to begin the work of rebuilding our Party so we can start winning again.

Thank you for reading this.

Sincerely,

[Jim in Chicago]

by Jim in Chicago 2005-01-23 07:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Here's my email to her
Jim --- that is EXACTLY what the "doctor" ordered!

Great letter!

It reminds me of what Dean said in his closing statements at the caucus: we need to be the REAL uniters, not dividers.

So, while I am not surprised that Hillary may be meddling to maintain her turf in DC, I don't necessarily see it as a reason to give her vinegar instead of honey. Given her 2008 aspirations, Hillary needs to see us as a potential asset to her political ambitions. If we go negative on her, that is NOT going to help Dean's cause --- it will only drive the wedge further.

As your letter so eloquently articulates, let's follow Dean's lead and express --- in POSITIVE terms --- why we care about this and why it's actually in Hillary's best interests to support Dean.

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-23 07:56PM | 0 recs
This rumor has to be total bunk.
Because you are right, it IS in Hillary's best interest to support Dean for chair. That's why I don't believe these silly rumors.
by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-23 11:11PM | 0 recs
Dear Senator Clinton
I encourage you to support Dean for DNC chair. He has the energy and fundraising prowess to rally the dems for 2008 and set forth a new vision for the party.

I look forward to voting for you in the dem primaries in 2008. I can't wait to see Bill back in the White House as "First Gentleman". Ah, the pleasure of watching the right wing suffer through the Clintons moving back into the big house! Best of luck!

Sincerely,
[Clinton fan]

by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-01-23 11:10PM | 0 recs
My Letter to Hillary
I'm appealing to her ambition with this...but I figure it might tickle her feet...

Senator Clinton,

Please support and work with Howard Dean to be the new DNC Chairman.

I am a Brooklyn resident and am a loyal 4th generation Democrat. I vote in every primary, local race, general election and have gone door to door for the party to campaign for Democratic candiates. I contribute regularly and I would call myself a moderate ideologically. But above all, I am a reformist.

I want the Democrats to take the reformist charge it is duty bound to do in these harrowing times. The Democrats are a minority party and the only logical move for it to win, is to harness the groundswell of support for reform into the next general election. To to this we need to build an infrastructure to channel that sentiment.

This is why I encourage you to support Dean for DNC chair. He has the energy and fundraising prowess to rally the dems for 2008 and set forth a new vision for the party. I am certain that the groundwork he can lay will only aid you in your future pursuits to lead the party back to the white house in 2008.

All you will need to do is embrace the reformist tide and it will be yours to lead as a presidential candidate.

Sincerely,
<dude in brooklyn>
Brooklyn, NY

by rinzinNYC 2005-01-24 07:43AM | 0 recs
Re: My Letter to Hillary
Great letter rinzin!

I forwarded it out to a large group of DFA'ers who are heavily involved --- I hope it will be a source of further inspiration to them to write effective letters to Hillary.

Meanwhile, here's another letter from that group (not as succinct as yours, but still effective):

-----
Dear Senator Clinton,

I'll be very honest with you and come right to the point.  I'm writing because I hear that you're concerned about Howard Dean becoming DNC chair.  I'm writing to give you my two cents why I think this would be a good role for him, for you and for us.  I would love to know what you think you may lose if he heads the Party, because I think that if he is chosen you only stand to gain.

Dean brings with him thousands of people who have the energy to bring this Party to victory IF we truly unite and stop fighting amongst ourselves.  The people (like me) who support Dean do so because HE LISTENS to us.  We are hungry to be listened to.  Today Americans feel ignored.  For example, Kerry took his blog down on Nov 3rd leaving his supporters no way to express themselves after the awful defeat.  People use the blogs to discuss things and when he did that it was like saying to his supporters that we no longer mattered to him.  In contrast, when Dean lost his bid for the nomination he left his blog up even though he probably didn't know at the time quite what he was going to do.  He never abandoned us.

As an elected representative that has spent so many years in public life, I don't know if you can remember how it feels to be an ordinary citizen with serious concerns about very basic issues.  The frustration of trying to be heard is enormous.  You are in a very powerful position and people listen to you.  But all too often, we the people find ourselves voting against people rather than voting for them because there are so few candidates who represent us.  And part of what I mean by representation is TO LISTEN.

If Dean is chosen, thousands of people who were not active in politics and who became energized will continue to be a driving force in this Party.  We are tired of business as usual.  We are ready to work hard for a government that will really work with us.  Your husband, President Clinton was also a listener.  We loved it.  We are currently feeling screwed by Bush and also screwed by our own Party.  We desperately want that to change.  Dean has made us feel important.  He is someone who cares, listens and leads.

I want to assure you that Dean and his army of supporters would give you a tremendous amount of help in whatever undertaking you choose.  I know that he has enormous respect for you and President Clinton.

We're here to help, but we can only help if we have the correct vehicle in which to do so.  It is rumored that you and President Clinton were instrumental in derailing Dean's chance for the nomination.  Please give him a chance this time.  We will all fare so much better if we get on board the same train.

Thank you for listening.

Sincerely,
<person>
Santa Rosa, California

by Fiat Lux 2005-01-24 11:14AM | 0 recs
Will Barbara Boxer be the Anti-Hillary
The Hillary stopper?
by Jeff Wegerson 2005-01-24 11:21AM | 0 recs
Be careful, people
One thing that Gov. Dean has mentioned is that mass mail campaigns can - and do - backfire.  This is especially true when it comes to convincing established politicos.  

Granted, if you are a constituent of Sen. Clinton, you should feel free to write to her.  But be brief, and if possible, hand-write the letter.  Email can often fall into the spam category if received en masse, so try and use the USPS if you can.

But if you are not represented by Sen. Clinton, your best bet is to not write to her.  If you want to contact a voting DNC member, it should fall under the following two guises:

  1. You are represented by said member (e.g. Senator, Representative, Governor, et al).

  2. You personally know the voting member (e.g. members of state Democratic party organizations, affiliated voting members, etc.).

Let's be careful - the netroots is still establishing its credibility amongst many voting members of the DNC, so it's best to show respect and restraint and let 'em know that we are mature and smart.

Just my $0.02 - your mileage may vary.

by DCFD Rudi 2005-01-25 08:32AM | 0 recs
My letter:
The Honorable Ms. Clinton:

You have often been an inspiration to me and to many people I admire in my life, particularly women.  There have been few people who single-handedly have been able to motivate and affect the lives of so many.  Further, I have been disgusted by the Right Wing attacks on you personally and without foundation, at great harm to you, your husband, and most importantly - our country.

Today I write to you to ask that you support the candidacy of Governor Howard Dean for Democratic National Committee chairperson.  I have followed current events, particularly politics, since I was in Junior High.  For the first time, in this my 40th year, I actually was inspired enough to volunteer to phone bank for MoveOnPac.org, making phone calls to Colorado from my home state of California.  Although unable to count Colorado as a victory in the Presidential race, often when speaking to people they were impressed with newly elected Senator Salazar.  The thing they were most impressed with was Senator Salazar's ability to talk straight with them; to not use jargon and "Washington-speak".

It is my belief that there is great disconnect between today's Republican Party, and particularly this administration, and the truth.  This needs to be exposed at every opportunity, and clearly exposed before more damage is done.  The American people have for too long not known what the Democratic Party stands for and what we believe.  The Democratic Party MUST NOT continue to do business as usual - rather they must decentralize from Washington DC and relate to people locally, on a one-to-one basis.  If the Democratic Party fails to do so, I feel it will become less and less relevant, and I will not be able to count on the Democratic Party to stand up for my core values of liberty, justice, accountability, and responsibility for all.  We are at a crossroads I have not seen in my lifetime.  I feel now is the time for the Democratic Party to stand on principal and clearly state a set of issues that most Americans can feel secure in and rally around.

Senator Reid and his efforts to create a Senate Democratic Agenda and Rapid Response team are terrific and very encouraging.  I have never been more proud to be a native Californian as the last two weeks when Senator Barbara Boxer used Dr. Rice's own words to demand clarification for the lies propagated to Congress and the American population in the build-up to the Iraq War.  Today, Dr. Rice was confirmed but at least an alternative (I would say reality-based) was offered.  The choice between right and wrong, between lies and truth, needs to be clearly communicated at every opportunity.

It is with this background that I urge you to support for Governor Dean for DNC chair.  You have seen the enthusiasm and motivation generated from the ordinary woman and man on the street.  I believe these resources were instrumental in making this the closest reelection of a war-time president in many years.  As the failed policies of this Administration come to light, it is crucial that we have a strong Democratic organization to be there as a clear alternative for decades to come.  I believe that the best person to lead the Democratic Party for the next four years is Governor Howard Dean.

Thank you and with sincerity and great pleasure,

xxxxx
xxxxx
xxxxx

CC:    Senator Harry Reid
    Senator Barbara Boxer
    Senator Dianne Feinstein

by Intellectually Curious 2005-01-26 08:47AM | 0 recs

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