I'm also angry at and ashamed of Gregory Craig. These revolving door characters will sell their souls in N.Y. minute. Has anyone challenged him on his ethics here? After all he was part of Obama's administration and what he is doing now reflects directly on Obama. Has he no shame?
What will the Rethugs and their echo machine do with it.
I also wonder if the Wingnut "Sky is falling" rhetoric is going to fall flat now since the bill has past and Grandma hasn't been sent off to a Death camp and Hugo Chevez isn't meeting folks in their Dr. offices. Will the TM play to the Right or the Left on these issues?
They Love her for her stupidity! They see her as they did Bushboy. To these people writing crib notes just reconfirms her folksy down to earth character. She isn't "Smarter" then them. No matter how hypocritical the Lords of the wingnuts prove themselves to be IOIYAR or IOIYAT.
Thems not the facts qt pie. The facts are those of us who want to get the best for our country and are willing to fight instead of submit, aren't to blame. Its the cowards who quickly cave at every turn resulting in making bills totally unacceptable. I find your desire to blame the "Fuck pragmatism" crowd over the cowards, Rethuglicans, Blue Dogs, Lieberdems etc. telling. You seem quite willing to let slugs like Lieberman rule your world by blaming everyone else.
Where did you get the idea the negotiating for a better bill is over? Why are you and so many here at MDD acting like a bunch of defeatists. Maybe you should read FDL a lot more. FDL is still fighting and personally as a Vietnam Vet I'd rather be on the side of fighters. Remember as Yogi Bearer said "It aint over till it's over"
I'm 64yrs old and there is not much time left for me to "Grow up". Simply put attacking FPL by suggesting she is to be held responsible for the death of HCR is rediculous. To advocate just surrendering and passing the Senate's HCR bill without a fight to me represents a quality that is perceived as weakness and an inherent unwillingness to stand up and for what we all know is right. Frankly I'm disgusted with a party that seems so willing to give up it's ideals all under the Banner of "It's sure better than nothing". Look at whats going on here.. This blog is promoting just giving up and passing the Senate bill all because we lost a single Senator! Imagine that. We Dems have 59, thats a 59 vote majority and we are discussing accepting a bill that, guts a womans right to choose, Taxes the middle class, forces Americans to buy private insurance, forbids Drug reimportation, lacks a Public option! All this and more with out a fight! You all seem to think the negotiations are over, the fight is over, why? because we lost a single senate seat. Now to me thats pathetic and if you are offended by my position fine but responding by telling me to "Grow up" says more about you than it does me.
Trying to blame this disaster all on FDL instead of the real culprits disgust me. The President and people like Rahmbo,Reid and yes, Pelosi bear the full responsibility for this fiasco. For example "IF" Obama had taken charge and stood up to the Repigs instead of wasting preciouse time compromising the bill in a desperate grasping effort for "BiPartisan Ponies" we could have had a strong bill way back in april. If THe Pres and the Democratically held Congress stood up to the Wingnuts, Lieberdems, Blue dogs and Special interests and gave us a Public Option, Protecting a womans right to choose, Reimportation of Perscription drugs, taxing the rich etc. the voters wouldn't have been so frustrated with the process and rebelled in Mass. FPL is just fighting for a Bill the President and Congress promised. Keeping Pols to their promises should not be held up to ridicule instead it should be supported. You guys represent the worst quality of Democrats and that is, your always making excuses for the failures and lack of courage to fight to the end for what is right. To the average voter this says you lack a backbone and as usual you are quick to wave the white flag, giving up without a fight. In effect you always seem to be asking americans to grovel, and take it in the ass again, and again. All under guise of being pragmatists.