Well BJ to me the very term Rethuglican and Teabager are perjoritive. I often laugh at so called liberals who attack real liberals for acting a little like the thugs. Wheres your PROOF you demand I don't mind you misspelling but have to mention it anyway. Yet you don't have a problem with the Tea bagger wingnuts who thrive on their stupidity and not providing any proof of their assertions. Now you demand I provide a serious pol ok you got it. If you scroll down I have some more detail for you mr effite snob. You elitists are all alike ruining our country.
Sorry we children have a habit of believing our lying eyes. Any suggestion that tea baggers are not overwhelmingly populated by Rethuglicans need only Count the number of Teabaggers who are running as or supporting Democrats or independants. There are certainly a lot of them who claim the mantle of "Independents" as a way of disguise. The tea bag movement is not a swing voter block in the traditional sense. I put No weight in either Gallup or Rammas. Selective quotes by so called " I've voted Democratic all my life" have been trotted out over and over again and again ad nauseam. In fact "Faux not the News" brings out those "Democrat" pundits all the time to support their propaganda. I think what irks so many here is the inherent enthusiasum and apparent rooting for a rethuglican victory displayed in your positions. You may not actually feel your are being biased but to others it sure feels like you are.
Boy you have gone over to the dark side. There is nothing elitist a calling a con job a con job! Tea Baggers are 99% right wingnut jobs and thats not eletist it's fact. There have been serious pols confirming that fact.
I can recall there was a real worry about people staying home or not voting believing they couldn't lose. Why hasn't that been part of the discourse? Could over confidence depress the repuglican and independent vote? Was this just a wives tale?
Not if the Rethuglicans have anything to do with it. If they practice what theyve been preaching they will piss off so many voters We Dems will take back the majority and super majority in 2012. These guys cant pull the "Say one thing to get elected and do another when elected" this time with the Palin Teathuglicans ruling their world with a hatchet. Palin already is threatening a third party if the rethugs do shape up.
First of all Jerome I appreciate your criticisms, comments I really do . I wonder why you think my comment put me on the same wave length as Gibbs, I get the inference that I am blaming progressives for all the White house and Democratic missteps. Why not compare me to every Democrat and progressive who believes this thing is not a lost cause and if we work together we can beat the forcasts. Your statement that Pelosi is toast and your 65 seat prediction seems absolute to me. There is no qualifier in there now is there. I think I would have had a different comment if you added the fact that those statements could change as time and events and the polls Indictate. I just don't understand your resistance to the idea of setting aside all the insults from this admin and finding it in you to support and encourage we pull together to resist the Rethugs effort to take control. Or as you called it spouting my Professional talking points.
Your response tells me I hit a nerve. I never blamed Progressives , in fact I'm devoted left of the left progressive. I just asked you a simple question. I also gave my suggestion as to what we should now. I await your suggestions as to what we Progressive and fire eating Liberal hippies should do between now and the Disaster you predict will occur. I have another question for you. Do you hope you predictions don't come true? Do you have any suggestion as to how we can change your forcast from a lose to a win.
Your so right. Except your question about how do we WIN the war? We can't Win but we can END it. First thing first. We have to work are asses of to keep the Congress, both houses. Then we can rally to deal with the War,Gitmo,DADT,Capt & trade etc.
Watch u meam WE? Where is the evidence there was any kind of trade off between Obama and Pelosie by Dems? The facts are the Rethugs decided instead of attacking Obama, because he was so popular they would focus their lies, distortions and smears on both Reid and Pelosie instead. Then with the advent of the Fox fueled media frenzy over the phoney tea Party they went after all to these honorable Democrats. Right! So now they are all wearing rethuglican targets on their back. The wingnuts have pushed propaganda so effectively thay have folks like you, a Progressive actually spouting this kind of nonsense.
Your proclamations of impending doom are typical. The entire issue of losing the House is predicated on a low Democrat turn out and a high Rethugteabag one. The answer is all of you who claim to be Progressives, Liberals or Democrats to set aside your anger and resentment and work to help get Dems elected. cutting of your party to spite it is no way to to justify giving up and letting the evil empire take control with out a fight to the end.
In priciple I agree, but in reality the word Liberal has been defamed to such a degree people are literally afraid to be associated with it. Hence the rise of the title Progressive which has been widly accepted and people are begining to associate with hit who would have opted to call them selves independents or conservative. The proof of what I say is the Ongoing and concerted effort to Villify the term "Progressives" by none other than Glen Beck. He never uses the word Liberal because he recognizes the emergence and acceptance of the term Progressive and want to turn people against the term.