Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or Clinton supporters.

Obama won I get it.

He doesn't want the Clintons having any say despite their 18 million votes.

I get it.

He has tons of money and doesn't need mine.

I get it.

The DNC backed him and doesn't need my vote or money either.

I get it.

There is a new wave with new voters and its as new party.

I get it.

I have no input in this new party.

I get it.

Have a nice day.

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Comments

115 Comments

Re: Is there ever going to stop?

And since when did any of those votes belong to Bill?

by venician 2008-08-23 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

The Clintons got 18 million votes? I thought those people voted for Senator Hillary Clinton, not The Clintons.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-23 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

And is this a GBCW diary?

by venician 2008-08-23 04:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

We can only hope.

by ragekage 2008-08-23 04:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

rage I e-mailed you earlier, can't check my account at work. Will check later tonight.

by venician 2008-08-23 04:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

I emailed you back.

by ragekage 2008-08-23 04:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

But...what about meeeeeee?????
Why did neither of you email ME?
Isn't it all about ME?
What about MY feelings?
What about Meeeeeeeee????

(Since this is a me me me me me me diary, I figured I would join in.)

;)

by Kysen 2008-08-23 04:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

Now that was FUNNY!

by venician 2008-08-23 04:46PM | 0 recs
Good Luck DT

Dtaylor...

Via Con Dios.

I always follow the Buddist Philosopy on life.

This too shall pass.

by WashStateBlue 2008-08-23 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

Also, does this mean you're not gonna post here anymore?

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-23 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

Great early X-mas gift.

by fogiv 2008-08-23 04:48PM | 0 recs
You are a troll

and not a Democrat.

I get it.

by kevin22262 2008-08-23 04:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

Oh shut the fuck up already.

You don't get it. When you do get it you'll stop the pathetic whining. Take a page out of concern troll extraordinaire kosnomore and hit the road. He won't be missed and neither will you.

Jesus. How old are these people?

Petulant children.

by spacemanspiff 2008-08-23 04:15PM | 0 recs
Please check your facts(propaganda)

You do know that Chelsea, Hillary, and Bill are all talking at the convention, right?  You do know that 2 of the 3 speaking slots are during primetime, right?  You know that Bill is opening for our VP nominee, right?

Yeah, we have totally cut them out of the party.  Good catch.

by CAchemist 2008-08-23 04:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Even if you're not thrilled with the top of the ticket, please get out there and support your local Democratic candidates. They still want and need your support.

by LakersFan 2008-08-23 04:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Maybe in 2 years.  I am voting against all of them this cycle.

by dtaylor2 2008-08-23 04:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Then it's very difficult to believe you were ever a Democrat.

by LakersFan 2008-08-23 04:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

The Republicans deserve to have people like her on their side.

by ragekage 2008-08-23 04:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

It is the mentality that has characterized the Republican party in recent years. "Fuck everything else, I'm gonna do what makes ME feel good now."

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-23 04:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Then you are truly not a Democrat.

Mydd's purpose is to help get Democrats elected and to forward the principles of the party.  You are breaking the written rules of this site and have confirmed yourself as a troll.

by CAchemist 2008-08-23 04:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Wow. What a great way to make a statement. Well, don't worry, we don't want you back in two years. Continue to vote Republican.

by ragekage 2008-08-23 04:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Rage I got that you don't want us to vote for your candidate unless we STFU I got it.

I am done with a party like that.  I won't be back unless it changes back.

by dtaylor2 2008-08-23 04:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Uh huh, that's what I said, exactly. Except we don't want you back. Don't come back. Get it? Go away. Shoo. You're not welcome, and you know what? Senator Clinton feels the same way that I do.

by ragekage 2008-08-23 04:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Serious dude, have you really read what you said.  Is the democratic party the big tent party or the party that tells is wayward childern to take a hike and get lost.

I sure hope not but i geuss we can agree to disagree.  Everyone is welcome in our party and do you really want to be the democartic party membership police?  I hope you get my meaning here.

david

by giusd 2008-08-23 07:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

This isn't about a simple disagreement.

A few, wayward children (I'm just using your terms here) have decided that the rest of us are deluded cultists and have no chance of winning.  Moreover, they've dedicated much of their free time telling us what idiots we are, how much we suck, how much our party's presumptive nominee sucks, and how much our lives will suck even worse because these few wayward children don't like us anymore.

Christ, the time we spend dealing with these "wayward children" could be better spent growing the party, not going after the stragglers that every herd has.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-08-23 08:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Children can't vote anyway.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-24 12:23AM | 0 recs
Wayward infants.

I say put them in a basket and leave them on McCain's doorstep!

by Dumbo 2008-08-23 10:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Cause the Republican party isn't like that at all.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-23 04:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

I dunno where you get the "don't want us" part.
Rage was speaking directly to YOU.

The vast majority of Clinton Supporters are actually Democrats, and, frankly, actually support her. As such they will do as she (and her husband, and her daughter) plans to do....vote for the Democratic Candidate.

by Kysen 2008-08-23 04:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

I won't be back unless it changes back.

You promise?

by Kysen 2008-08-23 04:33PM | 0 recs
Changes back to what?

Being tolerant of insolent disloyal sore losers? Oh yeah, those were the good old days.

by Davidsfr 2008-08-23 04:34PM | 0 recs
No..

you don't get it.

I still question. I still get pissed. But... I will NOT allow this country to be taken down any further.

You on the other hand are OK with this country going down even further.

You are OK with leaving the fascist neo-con republicans in power.

You are OK with KKKarl rove being mccain brain.

It is not about STFU. It is about... stop the fucking whining! If you are in this for Hillary and all women then how the hell could you go AGAINST what Hillary said she wants? How could you and the others push down the ONLY Democratic nominee we have (there is only one at a time) and push mccain?

This is absurd BS. It makes NO SENSE!

I wish Hillary Clinton would have a huge meeting with all of you and tell you to STOP!

... but... I am guessing... that you and the others would think she was being "forced" to do this, or threatened, or some other piece of made up conspiracy theory BS.

I/We are not asking you to jump on board, we are asking that you stop shooting at the nominee.

There are plenty of Obama supporters here that question what he does and says, but they will still support him, push him forward and knock mccain down. Why Because we MUST!

NO MORE FASCIST NEO-CON REPUGS!

end of rant... for now.

by kevin22262 2008-08-23 04:37PM | 0 recs
The last thing she should do...

...is feed their ego with a pesonal meeting.

They feel marginalized and disenfranchised.  But rather than earn their stripes with hard work and putting their votes where their principals are, they instead sulk and whine and throw tantrums.

The last thing we want is for Clinton to reward that behavior.  If they want to join us in making this a better country than fine, otherwise I say let them sit out on the stoop and sulk.  

But if they want kudos or recognition THEY are going to have to earn it like everyone else.

by DawnG 2008-08-23 08:24PM | 0 recs
Dtailor; Go Kiss John McCain's Ass

that's your style

by Lefty Coaster 2008-08-23 05:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Broads like you give Women a bad name.

by venician 2008-08-23 04:23PM | 0 recs
bad

comment.

by kevin22262 2008-08-23 04:27PM | 0 recs
Re: bad

But she does. She plays into all of the bad stereotypes about women.

by venician 2008-08-23 04:42PM | 0 recs
Re: bad

No. They play into the stereotypes of being a Republican. Gender has nothing to do with any of their statements. You're the one who introduced gender into the conversation, and you've done it in a thoroughly sexist manner.

by LakersFan 2008-08-23 04:46PM | 0 recs
Re: bad

Sexism implies discrimination. As usual you throw that term around whenever anyon says anything against A women. My mother, sister, 7 Aunts and 24 female cousins thank you for seting the feminist movement back 20 years.

by venician 2008-08-24 08:56AM | 0 recs
Re: bad

Don't know why, but I always assumed dtaylor2 was a man.

I don't know about gender stereotypes, but the PUMAs so make Hillary Clinton look bad. In fact, I think a big Harriet Christianesque meltdown for the TeeVee cameras in Denver might even be good for Obama.

by BlueinColorado 2008-08-23 04:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

I hope you change your mind (or at least rethink it). Until then, fuck you and the horse you rode in on, because I'll be damned if I'll be nice to a turncoat.

by vcalzone 2008-08-23 04:46PM | 0 recs
All of them.

you really are poisoning the well aren't you?

It's not that we don't NEED you, we don't want you.  Not because you supported Clinton, but because you're selfish and don't care about the rest of the country.

Like it or not, this isn't about YOU, this is about US.  Be with us or don't, it's your choice.  but don't expect anyone to miss you if you leave. YOu haven't demonstrated yourself to be anything more than a spoil sport.

by DawnG 2008-08-23 08:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

I'm voting against them all too. That's Kerry and Tierney in Massachusetts.

by hwc 2008-08-23 09:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Even if you're not thrilled with the top of the ticket, please get out there and support your local Democratic candidates. They still want and need your support.

You know what, LakersFan, that's the first positive idea that I seen so far on this diary.

You are what they call a TRUE DEMOCRAT...for you tend to stay away from sowing negative seeds.

It seems to me that worst thing for Obama is now is..--you know what, never mind--whatever I have to say will get misconstrued anyway.

Focusing on local races will be the idea for now.

I'll end with this: Experience is oftentimes the best--but toughest--teacher of all.

by Check077 2008-08-23 07:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons

Thanks. There's too much important work to be done to get too tied to any individual candidate. We have a whole government that needs fixing.

by LakersFan 2008-08-23 08:57PM | 0 recs
Seriously

crack open a bottle of Jack, put on some good music, avoid the blogs for a few days. Public self-flagellation isn't going veto put your candidate in office, or keep mine out.

The cycle didn't work out for you, well, we've all been there (looking at you GWB). It's not the end of the world.

by Neef 2008-08-23 04:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously

I don't think your side fully gets how we feel.

I will leave the party until this changes.

There is a good chance it will never change.

For many of us this may have been our last cycle as a Democrat.

THATs why it was so painful.

by dtaylor2 2008-08-23 04:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously

You don't get it. We don't want people like you to be Democrats anymore. If this is how you react- frak that. This demonstrates anytime things went slightly awry, according to your tired and fragile sensibilities, you'd go skittering off into the distance, leaving us to clean up your mess.

Go away. Obviously, you're an attention whore, we get that, or you really would have left. It's like people who stand on a bridge threatening to jump.

by ragekage 2008-08-23 04:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously

No, we get it, really.
You've made it abundantly clear.

Now, when is it that you intend to leave?

by Kysen 2008-08-23 04:35PM | 0 recs
Once again, changes how, to what?

When oh when was the democratic party, or any political party, supportive and welcoming of people who throw hissy fits incessantly and threaten to vote for the opposing candidate when their candidate loses a primary campaign? It's just ridiculous for you to say the democratic party has "changed" in not tolerating such garbage.

by Davidsfr 2008-08-23 04:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously

If you need to make a "statement", you can leave the party and still support local Democrats. Our candidates' positions on policy issues really are more important than who's name is on the ballot.

by LakersFan 2008-08-23 04:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously

I don't think your side fully gets how we feel.

We get it. We just don't care. You are neither terribly complicated nor especially interesting. You're an infantile narcissist.  There are not eighteen million voters with your attitude.

Grow up or fuck off, makes no difference to me.

by BlueinColorado 2008-08-23 04:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Rethug troll

No, fuck em. They're voting downticket Republican. I know you are upset at Obama, and even upset at the DNC, but are you seriously for jeopardizing our position in Congress? (I say this knowing you are not)

by vcalzone 2008-08-23 04:49PM | 0 recs
Re: I want Nancy Pelosi to get nervous

Yes, I didn't know you lived in that district. I'm in GA, and it's as red as it gets. Not voting Dem out here for spite is a crime. Dunno where dtaylor is from.

by vcalzone 2008-08-23 04:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Rethug troll

Yeah.... I don't think you really get what a "troll" is. See this diary, and all of dtaylor2's other diaries.

He came here to pick a fight, he succeeded.

If I had a binkie that would shut him up, I'd toss it to him, but I'm fresh out.

by BlueinColorado 2008-08-23 04:52PM | 0 recs
You know what?

I believe there is a significant chance that we WON'T win this year, because of some Dems. I see a historic nomination being tarnished by some of the most ugly and egregious behavior I've ever seen from Democrats. I am angry too, furious in some ways.

I feel like half the party stabbed me in the back. You don't have a monopoly on feeling betrayed.

I'm not belittling how you feel, and you will notice I didn't hit you with a GTFO post. Nor am I going to get into a "who's more pissed" contest. But I'd ask you to remember that everyone was wounded this cycle.

And that advice about the Jack? It's exactly what I'm going to do, if the Fall doesn't work out.

by Neef 2008-08-23 04:45PM | 0 recs
Re: You know what?
I don't think you will win - and I say 'you', because I don't belong in your hate-filled group. You picked the least qualified candidate EVER, with the thinnest resume, and you built him up to be a god - and now he truly thinks you are right. And when he loses, it will never be his fault or your fault - the blame will all be on Hillary. She didn't bow quite low enough. You HAD to give her a speech at the convention - how very kind and generous. Half of her supporters won't vote for Obama - that is nine million people - and you don't care. Fine. Losers.
Obama is going to be short of money, short of votes and short of popularity. It is all heading south.
by Marjoriest 2008-08-23 05:55PM | 0 recs
Re: You know what?

Built him up to be a god? Well, he may not shine like polished gold, but some of us do think he's pretty neat.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-23 06:01PM | 0 recs
Re: You know what?

His campaign is richer than Croesus and you're telling me he's going to be short of money?

What, are they planning on making ice sculpture replica's of every undecided voter?  Burning hundred-dollar effigies of John McCain (no, they don't cost a hundred bucks, they're made of hundred dollar bills)?

Christ, I get it.  You're mad!  You're so mad you aren't perceiving reality terribly well.  Cool.

Good luck with that.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-08-23 06:12PM | 0 recs
"Hulk Smash"

is all I get from your posts. Primal screams.

Whatever.

by Neef 2008-08-23 06:26PM | 0 recs
Re: You know what?

Thinnest resume? When was Hillary Clinton's first elected position? In 2000? 4 years or so after Obama's first elected position?

When you prefer Clinton to Biden as VP choice you no longer have ANY reason to bash Obama as having a "thin resume".

And once again your crowd is seen as self-contradictory and hypocritical. If you cared about "resume" so much, Biden would have been your first choice.

But the "resume" babble is merely yet another poor excuse to bash Obama with, not something you actually care about.

You people are hypocritical liars that use any excuse you can find - we get it.

by Aris Katsaris2 2008-08-24 05:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Hey little brother

Give them a little room? This idiot is here every day spewing the same tired crap for the last two months. The political intertubeblogs are a rough-and-tumble place. If he insists on picking fights, he's gonna find them.

Personally, I don't believe in buying kids popsicles to persuade them to stop screaming and kicking on the floor of the KMart.

by BlueinColorado 2008-08-23 04:50PM | 0 recs
Re: You could use some fresh air

No sore winners welcome here. At least not on my watch.

ah, didn't know you'd bought the blog.

Again, dtaylor insists on throwing his tantrums in public, people are going to treat him accordingly.

by BlueinColorado 2008-08-23 04:53PM | 0 recs
Re: you know gato

Well, I didn't, but I get it now.

by BlueinColorado 2008-08-23 04:54PM | 0 recs
On your watch, CATFISH2?

The only watching that should be going on around here is for trolls who get banned and come back two hours later, apparently with rating privileges.

by ReillyDiefenbach 2008-08-23 07:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously

I am a huge supporter of Obama, but I also liked Hillary, and if she had won then the next day I would have volunteered to get her elected. I believe this nation can't be left to the whims of the Republican party anymore. So if you or any Hillary supporters think that it is important to support the Republican. Then good bye. And if you are a true Democrat say goodbye to all the fights women rights, civil liberties and so on that you hold dear. The Supreme court will be Red for at least the next 20 years, and because you seek to punish Obama for winning a primary instead of thinking of the Nation. You deserve to lose this fight.

by Sylden37 2008-08-23 05:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously

dtaylor2, Amen!  When Obama loses in a landslide in November the Ozombies will finally get it!  Bring out the pop corn cause it's gonna be fun to watch!

Change we canNot believe in!

by trixta 2008-08-23 05:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously

Since you are here and are cheering for an Obama loss, I would love to understand your thought process.

How did you weigh the decision to sacrifice the public policies that you support but that will not exist under a McCain presidency, in order to not vote for Obama?  Even if you think he is inexperienced, untrustworthy, etc., you must realize that McCain will destroy our social infrastructure, UHC will be set back another decade, gay people will continue to be marginilized and women may lose the rights to their bodies.  

I just don't understand how all of those problems in a McCain administration will still be better than the Obama administration.  Please, please help me understand how you came to this, probably painful, conclusion.

by CAchemist 2008-08-23 05:26PM | 0 recs
They are not Democrats.

They are cultists whose idol has moved away.  Rather like the Japanese soldiers who kept on fighting on the lonely atolls in the Pacific after the end of WWII, subsisting on roots and berries and the occasional stolen chicken.  Pathetic characters, really.

by ReillyDiefenbach 2008-08-23 08:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously

You were never a real Democrat.

Now you are just another McTroll.

by Lefty Coaster 2008-08-23 05:35PM | 0 recs
Finally it dawns on you...

Thank goodness you finally get it. People who support John McCain over the nominee of the Democratic Party are not indeed wanted here.

by wasder 2008-08-23 04:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

Does this mean we're witnessing the Final Tantrum Of Dtaylor2?

Good.

by BlueinColorado 2008-08-23 04:38PM | 0 recs
I get it

If any politician wants my vote, he/she is going to have to work for it. If they don't want my vote, that's fine too.

by soyousay 2008-08-23 04:49PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

I think Obama and Biden plan to. If you want to ask him yourself, maybe he'll come around at a time when you can go. Just don't take your anger out on the poor Congressmen that will never reach higher office and are just working to make a bit of difference.

by vcalzone 2008-08-23 04:51PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

I think Obama and Biden plan to.
I'm sure they are planning to. I'm sure most politicians that run have good intensions.
If you want to ask him yourself, maybe he'll come around at a time when you can go.
Niceties don't work with me. I'll watch the debates and read as much as I can. I'll leave all the niceties for the star struck.
Just don't take your anger out on the poor Congressmen that will never reach higher office and are just working to make a bit of difference.
I really don't know why you're referring to "the poor congressmen." Now that you brought up "the poor congressmen," maybe they should find a new field of work if it's keeping them down.

by soyousay 2008-08-23 05:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Biden maybe.

"Rudeness to Hillary"....?

Are you playing some kind of Second Life game that you're confusing with real life?

by BlueinColorado 2008-08-23 05:56PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

How would you like Obama to work for your vote?  If you are a Democrat, then you already agree on >95% of most political positions.

If you mean he should be deferential to the Clintons, then you should say that.  I would, of course, counter that 3 Clintons have speaking roles at the convention, 2 in primetime, 1 opening for the VP.  What else do you want them to do?

by CAchemist 2008-08-23 04:52PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

How would you like Obama to work for your vote?
It's simple, convince me. I'm listening, I'll watch the debates. Maybe he'll do town halls which BTW, he initially planned to do, that would be helpful.
If you are a Democrat, then you already agree on >95% of most political positions.
Where did you come up with 95%? Does that number sound good to you?
If you mean he should be deferential to the Clintons, then you should say that.
It's really all about Obama isn't it?
I would, of course, counter that 3 Clintons have speaking roles at the convention, 2 in primetime, 1 opening for the VP.  What else do you want them to do?
Although I really thought that Obama, staff and supporters treated the Clintons like crap, and that didn't sit well with me, I'm willing to look passed that. I'm sure that many will not but like the old saying goes...you reap what you sow. Since I see Obama as inexperienced, he'll have to convince me that he makes good decisions and is the right person to be president. Choosing Biden was smart. Listening to Rev. Wright wasn't. He needs to stop with the flip flopping. I plan to watch the debates. I still plan to stay home; it's not set in stone.

by soyousay 2008-08-23 05:30PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

Short answer is that you remain unconvinced about Obama's decision making skills.  Fair.

95% was simply made up, but you were a Clinton supporter and BHO and HRC agree on >95% of policy so I thought I would take a shot.

by CAchemist 2008-08-23 05:43PM | 0 recs
Great

Now... see we're getting somewhere. Why can't more people just let it go. I'll give it a fair shot and listen.

by soyousay 2008-08-23 05:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Great

I have no interest in anyones ideological purity just in intellectual honesty. You didn't try to push your argument with a long list of anti-Obama lies so I am willing to be civil.

You don't trust his judgement.  Thats okay.  I think, if you really have an open mind, you will come around before November.  I believe in the ideals of our party and in Obama this time around.   I think he has what it takes to crush McCain in debate and will wait for that to happen instead of pointlessly arguing with you here.

All the best.  

by CAchemist 2008-08-23 06:33PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

Except that Obama flip flopped on FISA, campaign finance, choice, gun control, the War--oh yeah, he'll also go for privitizing Social Security.  

Obama's neo-liberal candidacy is the flip side of the GWB neo-con coin.  Now that he has his Cheney in  Biden (who also voted to authorize the war!) he can prance around like our current emperor without clothes.        

by trixta 2008-08-23 05:30PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

Your response is intellectually dishonest or you are very uninformed.  I imagine it was written because you are itching for a fight.  I don't really feel like biting on this one.

I would, however, like to have a an actual discussion here.  It would require you to attempt to be honest.

by CAchemist 2008-08-23 05:45PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

The difference is, for some people "working for my vote" means "displaying competence and wisdom, policy positions that I agree with, and a character suitable for the office of the president" while for others it means "meet my constantly moving bar of pandering and sucking up to me and giving in to my ridiculous and often unprincipled demands."

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-23 05:01PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

Some people are star struck and will vote for Obama just because he's good at basketball. I'm sure that's OK with you.

by soyousay 2008-08-23 05:35PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

As a matter of fact it isn't, which is why education reform is one of my top priorities. Thanks for projecting, though.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-23 05:37PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

If that's the case, you shouldn't insult those who ask questions.

by soyousay 2008-08-23 05:42PM | 0 recs
Re: I get it

Um, I wasn't. I was insulting those who base their vote on their own desire to be pampered rather than on his or her stance on the issues.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-23 05:52PM | 0 recs
It must be your writing style then

by soyousay 2008-08-23 06:07PM | 0 recs
We don't want your precious vote.

Go away and let us Democrats do the work.

by ReillyDiefenbach 2008-08-23 08:08PM | 0 recs
You are a close minded moron.....

I get it.

by IowaMike 2008-08-23 04:50PM | 0 recs
Re: According to the guidelines...

...zero rating is reserved for posts that are "content-free" and "intended solely to abuse other readers.  I think it applies in this case.  

by half nelson 2008-08-23 05:00PM | 0 recs
TrollsTrollsTrollsTrolls

by IowaMike 2008-08-23 04:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Nancy divided the party

I'm all for it. She caved on EVERYTHING. Even abstinence-only education, and that was a no-brainer.

by vcalzone 2008-08-23 04:59PM | 0 recs
Re: I would like Rahm Emmanuel

I wasn't crazy about his battle with Dean (now that we see that it f'n works), but you're right, he'd be a hellhound as the speaker.

by vcalzone 2008-08-23 05:02PM | 0 recs
Assuming you are Catfish...

Assuming you are catfish, I know that sometimes you are willing to have open/honest discussion here.  This diary seems to be one of these times.

So I would like to get inside your head, mind answering some questions?

Are you abstaining or voting McCain at the top of the ticket?  In either case, how did you weigh the decision to sacrifice the public policies that you support but that will not exist under a McCain presidency, in order to not vote for Obama?  Even if you think he is inexperienced, untrustworthy, etc., you must realize that McCain will destroy our social infrastructure, UHC will be set back another decade, gay people will continue to be marginilized and women may lose the rights to their bodies.  

I just don't understand how all of those problems in a McCain administration will still be better than the Obama administration.  Please, please help me understand how you came to this, probably painful, conclusion.

by CAchemist 2008-08-23 05:01PM | 0 recs
Re: I'll see if Biden influences Obama

It sounds to me that you are a McCain apologist, but very hard on Obama.

Rezko is troubling (a situation where it has been proven that Obama did nothing illegal), but McCain is wary of lobbyists despite actually doing illegal things with Keating.

Its okay to be anti-abortion and state that you will select judges to remove the rights of women as long as you aren't ruffled by powerful women.  Being pro-choice, on the other hand, isn't good enough for Obama.

You are misinformed about Obama's tax plan, unless you are very rich.  Please read his tax policies or the numerous reports from non-partisan groups proving my point (let me know if you would like a link here).

There are others here but lets start with this stuff.  

by CAchemist 2008-08-23 05:38PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't think you will understand

gatoPescado, take heart! It seems the word "stupid" is the new term for the phrase: "Your opinion is actually logical and thought-provoking, but I just do not agree with it."

I've been called that a number of times, now...

by Check077 2008-08-23 07:57PM | 0 recs
Interesting

I don't think I've ever seen you lay out your reasoning so clearly. Your position is also more pro-McCain (and less anti-Obama) than I'd have guessed.

If you're comfortable with McCain, why not just vote for him and be done with it? Why fight bitter ideological battles when you're simply not as partisan as some?

by Neef 2008-08-23 05:57PM | 0 recs
Re: I'll see if Biden influences Obama

You're like seven kinds of stupid.

by BlueinColorado 2008-08-23 05:57PM | 0 recs
Re: I'll see if Biden influences Obama

The way to take a stand against sexism is to vote for the guy who laughed along when asked "How do we beat the bitch (Hillary)?" and tells jokes about women being raped by gorillas?

What the hell kind of sense does that make?

by Angry White Democrat 2008-08-23 07:33PM | 0 recs
Okay

So you don't actually care about sexism at all; it's just a convenient excuse. Got it.

by Angry White Democrat 2008-08-23 09:11PM | 0 recs
Re: How about this: don't worry about it

Why don't you fucking answer the man's fucking question, instead of pretending you care about sexism or racism, and then showing utter disregard towards them when your McCain manrush is challenged on the same grounds?

Fucking asshole. Atleast an actual sexist and racist would be halfway honest with himself -- you just use them as excuses to support the Non-White-Males-Need-Not-Apply party.

by Aris Katsaris2 2008-08-24 05:44AM | 0 recs
Too funny.

I want the world,
I want the whole world,
I want to lock it all up in my pocket,
It's my bar of chocolate.
Give it to me,
Now!

by thatpurplestuff 2008-08-23 05:05PM | 0 recs
Re: It's a rough day, Dtaylor2 I hear you. Wait un

Pelosi needs to gooooooooo!!!!!

by trixta 2008-08-23 05:23PM | 0 recs
You know what, you and I have had major difference

but this diary angers me. He gave them 2 nights of major speaking enagements, wow, he must ant them banished, those prime time spots and all. NONE OF US KNOW what went on behind the scenes, for all any of us know, she turned him down. be a REAL democrat and understand you nor I know everything!!!!

by Dog Chains 2008-08-23 05:30PM | 0 recs
dtailor2 = McTroll

and deailor2 is a coward to boot.

by Lefty Coaster 2008-08-23 05:31PM | 0 recs
You know what?

The worst thing I can imagine foisting upon John McCain is you.  You bring more drama than any one vote could possibly be worth.

Be well.  But please, be gone.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-08-23 05:52PM | 0 recs
Biden is good. But why he is better than Hillary?
Just compare Biden's voting record with Hillary's.
Diff is she is actually won primaries (caucuses are fraud anyway), but Biden lost it.
Biden will decrease Obama's chances, and guess what - I am ok with that.
Actually I like obama-biden pair: it will make Hillary free for 2012, and nobody can blame her for Dems defeat in November.
by engels 2008-08-23 07:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Biden is good. But why he is better than Hilla

A spite vote is one thing, but it's pretty obvious at this point that pro-Clinton Dems voting for McCain in large numbers would reflect poorly on Clinton.  Why deny the obvious?

by IncognitoErgoSum 2008-08-23 07:29PM | 0 recs
Holy shit

Did you just say something Obama did was good???

THIS IS MaDnEsS!

RAGNAROK!!!

by Neef 2008-08-23 07:29PM | 0 recs
Please leave the Party

and never come back.

by ttjackson1 2008-08-23 07:40PM | 0 recs
From a pediatrics website:

http://www.hawaii.edu/medicine/pediatric s/parenting/c08.html

Chapter 8. Breath-Holding and Head-Banging
Loren G. Yamamoto, MD, MPH, MBA

Who should read this chapter? Parents who want to understand this special type of tantrum behavior to learn how to stop this behavior. Why do children do this?

Summary: Breath-holding and head-banging are extreme forms of tantrum behavior that deserve special discussion. These behaviors are generally attention seeking measures. A natural parental response to breath-holding and head-banging is instant attention to stop the episode. Unfortunately, this rewards the child for this behavior which reinforces and perpetuates it. To eliminate this type of behavior, parents should respond to these episodes with the exact opposite of what the child seeks. Since they seek attention, parents should respond with abandonment. Leave the room as soon as a breath-holding or head-banging episode starts. This might seem unacceptable to you at first, but the alternative is to continue rewarding the breath-holding and head-banging behavior; hence, more breath-holding and head-banging episodes. Discuss this with your pediatrician or family physician first.

by Dumbo 2008-08-23 10:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won. There is no need for Clintons or C

by dtaylor2 2008-08-24 04:59AM | 0 recs
We get it too.

Out of hundreds of millions of Americans, there's only one person you believe had the right to the VP position.

We get it.

You hate every other choice except Hillary Clinton.

We get it.

Democratic politicians are loathsome and unacceptable to you if they don't have the last name "Clinton".

We get it.

She shines like pure gold, she's the mother of us all, she's the one and only bright beacon.

We get it.

You don't have any ideals or ideas other than the idolization and person-worship of Hillary Clinton.

We get it.

by Aris Katsaris2 2008-08-24 05:38AM | 0 recs

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