Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN

Fox News and CNN are busy trying to throw 2 elections.

The polls have not closed in SD and MT.

Chris Wallace is saying that Obama is the nominee.

CNN is telling its viewers that Clinton wants to be
Obama's VP.  Implying that his election is inevitable.

This morning, CNN, then Fox, announced that Clinton had
conceded to Obama.

They later corrected themselves in such a way that it
would still be unclear to someone half listening.

Normally a reporter will start with - "AP made an error
this morning.  They announced blah blah".

CNN repeated the erroneous report before saying that
it was an AP error.

They knew exactly what they were doing.

I seems that the Clinton campaign and supporters would
have legitimate grounds for a class action lawsuit.

In a few more months, CNN will be throwing it for John McCain.

Tags: class action lawsuit, CNN, Fox, throwing election (all tags)



Hey you still haven't answered

my question are you internetstar.

And do you know any Obamaologists?

by Student Guy 2008-06-03 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Hey you still haven't answered

This is a party primary, not an election for an official state  or national office. You need to get lawyers for friends. I hope that you take a few days off and contemplate the damage you might be doing to your friends and family by supporting McCain.

It's time for Student Guy to become Mature Student Democrat.


by comingawakening 2008-06-03 01:38PM | 0 recs
I advocate for peace

but I don't tolerate trolls, dogking himself stated in his first diary:  over 50 responses for a troll diary, you must be pretty worried.

by Student Guy 2008-06-03 01:41PM | 0 recs
Re: I advocate for peace

You are the TROLL sir.

I am not a TROLL. Just because I post my opinion about HRC does not make me a TROLL.

You're inability to see the fact that your actions and HRC actions since Kitchen Sink would hurt the party would hurt the party, is what you have to contemplate.

At the RBC meeting on saturday, I made lots of friends with ardent HRC supporters that were sadden, hurt but still Democrats because they know that McCain is much worse than Obama by 1000%. If you think otherwise, then you are an angry and sore loser. Not good for you or America.

Don't call me a TROLL though I have had my dairies - I admit that. Sorry for those.

Peace again!

by comingawakening 2008-06-03 01:48PM | 0 recs
someone called you a troll?!? ROTFL!

by canadian gal 2008-06-03 02:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Hey you still haven't answered

Tsk tsk, HillsMyGal, I think you're logged into the wrong account again.  

by BPK80 2008-06-03 02:23PM | 0 recs

And do you know any Obamaologists?
Is the answer you?

by soyousay 2008-06-03 03:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN

psst.  Those two states might not know this, but it doesn't matter what their vote result is.  It was already over.

by neonplaque 2008-06-03 01:28PM | 0 recs
Re: nice and rigged by DNC

RIGGED for Obama?  You're kidding, right?

The entire primary process was tailor-made for Hillary by her surrogates. Everything from the compressed schedule right down to the huge lead of super delegates who endorsed even before the first voter went to the polls.

by neonplaque 2008-06-03 01:43PM | 0 recs
Re: nice and rigged by DNC

No, dogking is right. You act like the Clinton name is an icon of the Democratic party. It's not like one of them is a two-term President who was practically warshipped, and who had extensive connections throughout the party.

It's perfectly reaonsble to assert that some young, inexperienced jr. Senator from the streets of Chicago could bigboy the Clintons.

by USArmyParatrooper 2008-06-03 02:22PM | 0 recs
Not a lawyer, are you?

No standing, for one.  No damages or injury.  There is no legal injury if your candidate does not win.  And then there's the First Amendment.    

by TomP 2008-06-03 01:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Not a lawyer, are you?

And then there's the fact that it would be difficult to find a lawyer who wouldn't laugh his/her ass off at the idea.

by gchaucer2 2008-06-03 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Not a lawyer, are you?

I think she could probably establish standing, although I think it would be very difficult to actually prove damages by a preponderance of the evidence. Because so much depends on the freewill of superdelegates, I don't know how she would establish specific damages.

Also, the First Amendment does not protect misrepresentation, certainly not knowing misrepresentations. So, there isn't any constitutional bar to this cause of action (assuming she can convince the court that the case is justiciable under Article III--again, standing, etc.).

Still, this lawsuit would have numerous other problems.

by DPW 2008-06-03 01:59PM | 0 recs
Here are some other people to add to your

class action suit:

Tom Vilsack
Ed Rendell
Jerome Armstrong
Josh Orton
Todd Beeton
Al Giordano
Nate Silver
Student Guy
Al Rodgers
Angry Mouse
(this list is very partial and needs much rounding out to be any where close to complete).

by Student Guy 2008-06-03 01:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Here are some other people to add to your

Oh, yeah, and HRC herself.  Since her own camp put that out.

by Tommy Flanagan 2008-06-03 01:33PM | 0 recs
I'm upset I didn't make the list. What am I?

Chopped liver?

by PJ Jefferson 2008-06-03 01:41PM | 0 recs
I said it was extremely incomplete

and needed much expansion to be complete, if you want on it consider yourself there.

by Student Guy 2008-06-03 01:44PM | 0 recs
YES!!! nt

by PJ Jefferson 2008-06-03 01:45PM | 0 recs
You forgot Moveon.org

They're anti-Clinton as well.

Ironic really, when you consider how they started. It's a conspiracy.

by USArmyParatrooper 2008-06-03 02:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN

If a judge find these reports could have prompted people so stay home instead of voting, there are grounds to sue Fox and CNN.

by kingsbridge77 2008-06-03 01:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN

not when it can be proven her own camp created the leak.

by Tommy Flanagan 2008-06-03 01:33PM | 0 recs

true, and I would like to correct hootie78 should read as hootie4170.

by Student Guy 2008-06-03 01:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Yeah


by hootie4170 2008-06-03 01:45PM | 0 recs
Voters had to know this was possible

Yeah it sucks but not the end of the world.

by catfish2 2008-06-03 01:33PM | 0 recs
Your troll-fu is weak.

by Massadonious 2008-06-03 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN

What is the legal basis for your complaint?  Every action must have a "cause of action."  You must be able to show evidence of each element statutorily required within the stated cause of action.  To file, you must have standing, in addition to the valid complaint with a proper cause of action, and a showing of provable damages.

by whognu 2008-06-03 01:36PM | 0 recs
Don't feed it, people. n/t

by sricki 2008-06-03 01:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN

You just get more out there with each and every post.

by rf7777 2008-06-03 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN


by Massadonious 2008-06-03 01:39PM | 0 recs
I don't know about a lawsuit, but I've been

concerned with a lot of the same things that you have been concerned with.  How does the AP just coincidentally get these stories wrong on the day of the last two primaries?  

It would appear that the media is hoping to push voters in those last two states towards Obama, with constant untrue claims that any vote for Hillary would be wasted, because she's already conceded.

by PJ Jefferson 2008-06-03 01:39PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know about a lawsuit, but I've been

Really?  Is that what it looks like?

Because last time I checked, he could lose both states tonight and still be well over the limit needed to clinch.

Say it with me folks:


I assume if this happened yesterday, you'd still be saying it was all to "sway" the voters, right?


by The Great Gatsby 2008-06-03 01:59PM | 0 recs
Um, yeah, because yesterday was the day before

the last two primaries!

Moreover, you can say "say it with me folks", but he doesn't have enough pledged delegates to prevent the matter from going to the Convention.  No matter how many superdelegates he announces tonight, he STILL doesn't have enough PLEDGED delegates to prevent it from going to the Convention.  

Now, if you want to argue that at the Convention, he'll have a winning argument because he'll have more pledged delegates, that's fine.  But that argument can only be made at the Convention, unless Hillary concedes prior to.

by PJ Jefferson 2008-06-03 02:13PM | 0 recs
Of course this is another example...

of the anti-Clinton bias cum hysteria of the press. I was watching Obama's second home away from home CNN (MSNBC is the original) this afternoon and Jeannie Moos (who thinks she's a scream but she's as funny as a migraine) was on showing a wonky cheap Sunset Boulevard parody with Hillary as Norma Desmond---Desmond was a psycho murderess clinging to the past. And they think this is funny.  And maybe now the Obama people know why we will never support him.  They would never have done the same type of parody (let's say to The Defiant Ones) involving a black man.

by handsomegent 2008-06-03 01:41PM | 0 recs
I saw it and I was thinking...

"why do I keep seeing women reporters doing such sexist work" - and I'm a man!

I can't believe that, after the fiasco of comparing Hillary to the psycho in Fatal Attraction, which CNN covered by the way, CNN would do that.

by PJ Jefferson 2008-06-03 01:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Of course this is another example...

So let me get this right genius, you're not voting for Obama because you hate the media?

by blue2008 2008-06-03 02:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN

Did you know there are still a lot of people out there that think not only did Iraq have WMD's but that we actually found them and there's a conspiracy among the press to hide that fact....

Something about this diary made me think of that, not sure why though.

by bigdaddy 2008-06-03 01:42PM | 0 recs
by bosdcla14 2008-06-03 01:42PM | 0 recs
TPM Election Central lays into AP

TPM has castigated the AP for its loose reporting today.  (Though I have had problems with their reporting in the past.)  

Camp Hillary is pushing back against reports that Hillary told New York legislators on a conference call that she'd be "open" to being Obama's vice president.

Here's the statement from her campaign:

   "Today on a conference call with New York legislators, Senator Clinton was asked whether she was open to the idea of running as Vice-President and repeated what has said before: she would do whatever she could to ensure that Democrats take the White House back and defeat John McCain."

The Hillary camp claims that her questioner was the one who asked whether she was open to it. But the AP specifically quoted Hillary as follows...

   "I am open to it," Clinton replied, if it would help the party's prospects in November.

Of course, the AP sourced this direct quote from Hillary to an anonymous participant on the call. And it needs to be reiterated that the AP's track record today has been less than sterling.

A broader point here: The pressure on the news orgs is ordinarily intense enough on normal days to be first with literally any shard of info, no matter how trivial or poorly sourced, that purports to shed light on what Hillary is thinking or what she will do. But this has reached absurd and truly grotesque proportions today.

Hence the increased likelihood of journalistic train-wrecks. Not that anyone seems to care about said train-wrecks, of course. Folks are too busy chasing the next story.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsm emo.com/2008/06/hillary_campaign_downpla ys_rep.php

AP has been horrible today.

by katmandu1 2008-06-03 01:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN



  • Added DNC Maria Chappelle-Nadal (MO) for Obama
  • Added DNC Joyce Lalonde (MI)* for Obama
  • Added Rep. John Olver (MA) for Obama
  • Added Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (MI)* for Obama
  • Added DNC Debbie Dingell (MI)* for Obama
  • Added DNC Richard Wiener (MI)* for Obama
  • Added DNC Jennifer DeChant (ME) for Obama
  • Added DNC Joyce Beatty (OH) for Obama
  • Added DNC Kwame Kilpatrick (MI)* for Obama
  • Added Rep. John Spratt (SC) for Obama
  • Added DNC Debra Kozikowski (MA) for Obama
  • Added DNC Jon Ausman (FL)* for Clinton
  • Added DNC John Perez (CA) for Obama
  • Added DNC Carnelia Fondren (MS) for Obama
  • Added Jimmy Carter (GA) for Obama
  • Added DNC Tina Abbott (MI)* for Obama
- Switched DNC Ben Johnson (DC) from Clinton to Obama
  • Switched DNC Kamil Hasan (CA) from Clinton to Obama
  • Added DNC Diane Glasser (FL)* for Obama
- Switched Rep. Maxine Waters (CA) from Clinton to Obama

by neonplaque 2008-06-03 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN

So add those supers D's to your lawsuit, too.

by neonplaque 2008-06-03 01:47PM | 0 recs
I here Coke..

...is still looking for representation against Coke Zero.

by hootie4170 2008-06-03 01:48PM | 0 recs
Your tinfoil hat is showing.

by LtWorf 2008-06-03 01:59PM | 0 recs
looking in the mirror again, eh?

a la Travis Bickel ("You talkin' to me?!)

by N in Seattle 2008-06-03 02:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Time for Lawsuit against FOX and CNN

by Koan 2008-06-03 02:26PM | 0 recs
Don't Feed The Troll

"50 posts for a Troll Diary made you pretty nervous?" -- Dogking

He'll be done soon enough.

by Koan 2008-06-03 02:29PM | 0 recs
Even IF this diary wasn't laughable

It seems to me calling an election early benefits the perported "loser", since voters of the declared winner end up with no sense of urgency.

You have to admit. As of late the presumption that realistic math dooms Clinton has energized her base while making Obama supporters complacent.

Just look at what happened when FL was called for Gore too early during a close election.

by USArmyParatrooper 2008-06-03 02:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Why do you guys sound so desperate?

Thanks.  I mean, I thought my DiFi joke was funny, but hysterical, well, that's really sweet of you.  

Oh, and add Maxine Waters to your suit.  

by bosdcla14 2008-06-03 02:53PM | 0 recs


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