I Am A Democrat

I Am A Democrat

There are a number of comments and diaries (both here and at other blogs) that have prompted this diary.

But the biggest reason is that there are a handful of extremists on both sides of the Dem battle that have taken over the conversation. A handful of people who, for whatever reason, feel it is okay to smear our two Dem candidates.

I voted for Obama in the CA primary. This came after a great deal of personal debate. I was planning to vote for Hillary until a couple of days before our primary (and honestly, at this point, I forget what the catalyst was for making the switch).  My wife voted for Hillary. And guess what? We don't hate one another. I don't attack her for voting for the corporatist triangulator. She doesn't attack me for voting for the empty suit.

And why not?

Because neither candidate is guilty as charged. And because my wife and I more concerned with the big picture than in scoring points.

It's only the extremists who hand their very existence on tearing down the other candidate.

There are millions of voters around the country who don't spend their hours on the blogs trying to smear the opposition. They are too busy trying to work two jobs, pay their gas bill, get their kids ready for school, do their laundry, find the cheapest way to get to work, pay their pet's vet bills, or just get six hours of sleep before they have to lather, rinse and repeat again the next morning.

It is those people that I care about.

The reason why?  I. Am. A. Democrat.

I don't care about the poster who wants to smear Obama because of his pastor.

The reason why? I. Am. A Democrat.

I don't care about the poster who wants to smear Clinton because her husband.

The reason why?  I. Am. A Democrat.

I don't care about the "liberal" blog owner who wants to post Karl Rove's words without comment in order to attack another candidate, or the "liberal" blog owner who wants to post vile, racist innuendo about the opposing candidate, of the "liberal" pundit who wants to pressure one candidate into ending the primary process before all states have had their say.

The reason why?  I. Am. A. Democrat.

So... what do I care about?

I care about the families who have been torn apart by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - the men and women who have come home with mental or physical wounds and those who have had to bury loved ones.

I care about the Katrina survivors who are still suffering from the hateful HUD practices and the incompetence of far too many FEMA officials.

I care about the family and friends of Nataline Sarkisyan and all of the others who have been damaged by the reprehensible healthcare system in these United Sates of America.

I care about the families who are cracking under the pressue of this country's economic woes - from the mortgage crisis to the price of gas.

I care about the candidates that are running states races because of Howard Dean's Fifty State Strategy and I want to see them be swept into office in order to finally affect some change in this country.

I care about the composition of the Supreme Court and worry that my daughters my have their reproductive freedoms challenged if the Dem extremists stay home in November and enable John McCain to stack the SCOTUS with justices that repeal Roe v Wade.

I care about these people because...

I. Am. A. Democrat.

I worry that John McCain - a man who doesn't recognize the difference between Shi'a and Sunni, and doesn't understand that condoms DO prevent AIDS - will continues Goerge W. Bush's sloganistic War on Terrorism and his sectarian War on Science.

I will vote for the Democratic candidate in November.

And I will not call for the race to end until all remaining states have had their chance to vote in this primary.

The reason why?  I. Am. A. Democrat.

And I will not be part of a smear campaign directed at Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

I will focus my efforts and my anger at John W. McCain.

The reason why? I. Am. A. Democrat.

Tags: Democratic Party, meta (all tags)



Re: I Am A Democrat

I care about democracy and if Florida and Michigan don't get a vote thats not democracy and those who support it aren't democrats.

by DTaylor 2008-04-01 10:09PM | 0 recs
Howard Ickes, Clinton flack voted to strip FL,MI

of their votes.

by LibDem 2008-04-02 03:43AM | 0 recs
Hear hear!

I. Am. A. Democrat. too.  And for all the same reasons you listed.

by GFORD 2008-04-01 10:13PM | 0 recs
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Hell yeah!

The pettiness on these boards tends to cloud the big picture.  I say we let the majority take control over the extremist minorty and turn this fight towards McCain.

by dannyinla 2008-04-01 10:20PM | 0 recs
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"at this point, I forget what the catalyst was for making the switch".

ho about tht bob kerry, andrew cumo, bill and hillary are using racism - script pushed by the obama campaign to the media and black voters and easily ofended "liberals"?

"at this point, I forget what the catalyst was for making the switch".??!!


by John Wesley Hardin was a Friend to the Poor 2008-04-01 10:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Hear hear!

Can you get over yourself just once?

by zep93 2008-04-02 03:48AM | 0 recs
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And if MI and FL are seated and Obama still has the most delegates and popular vote, will you be okay with that?

by dannyinla 2008-04-01 10:16PM | 0 recs
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this was supposed to be a respnse to DTaylor.

by dannyinla 2008-04-01 10:18PM | 0 recs
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If by seated you mean they count 100% yes.

The winner of this election should win the nomination.

Obama has a PR campaign that he has won but if you count Florida and Michigan its Hillary that is winning.

When Obama and Dean and Pelosi turned their back on democracy it was a TOTAL shock to me.

Obama winning the democratic nominee doesn't mean what it would have earlier though...he has showed his true colors as have Pelosi, Dean et al.

I am still not sure how I will vote in the general but every time I try and talk myself into voting for Obama if he wins I see stuff from his followers that reminds me of people who I would never vote for ( I won't say who as it would be inflamatory)

I do know that I will never vote for Boxer or Feinstein again on the democracy thing.

I am toying with an Obama for president and then GOP for everyhting else as a protest.  Or maybe Hillary for everything as a protest.  OR maybe just McCain for pres and Hillary for all other positions.  Totally not sure how I will react but I am sure I won't forget this and I will have my revenge against those who supported it in the ballot box.

I am multi cycle mad about how this has played out.

by DTaylor 2008-04-01 10:32PM | 0 recs
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Until someone decides how we "count" MI, the jury is still out.  Since Barack was not on the ballot in MI, someone needs to find an equitable way to assign him the popular vote and delegates that he would have received were he on the ballot.

by dannyinla 2008-04-01 10:35PM | 0 recs
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How do you give delegates to someone who didn't get any votes and opposed a revote?

Or at least didn't get over 1%


by DTaylor 2008-04-01 10:42PM | 0 recs
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I think that now you're being disingenuous.  Most of the candidates removed their names from the ballot in MI (Kucinich wanted to but didn't). Except Hillary.

I don't want to disenfranchose the MI Hillary voters. So why do you want to disenfranchise those MI voters who support Obama?  

I thought fairness was your angle.

You do realize that he was polling at 24% when the MI primary took place, don't you?

by dannyinla 2008-04-01 10:47PM | 0 recs
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I will focus my efforts and my anger at John W. McCain.

- Thats actually unproductive.

No need to be angry at the man .

By the way i think democrats would be mistaken trying to tie Mccain to Bush , if that is their strategy going forward it would fall short.

by lori 2008-04-01 10:20PM | 0 recs
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I think anger is completely justified when we talk about the loss of life in Iraq and Afghanistan.  To be blinded by anger is unproductive. To us it to enact change is extremely productive.

by dannyinla 2008-04-01 10:26PM | 0 recs
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Why would it be a mistake to note that, objectively, McCain wants to continue Bush's foreign policy and has actually proposed economic policies that are more right wing than Bush?  McCain is running for Bush's third term and that's not hyperbole.

by HSTruman 2008-04-02 05:21AM | 0 recs
Good for you.

A thoughtful post. However, your answers/mindframes are not necessarily the answers/mindframes that work with everyone's thought processes. You and I care about the same things you listed and I. Am. A. Democrat. too. But my work on resolving our nation's and our planet's ills comes with standing with the woman I believe has the best solutions. The other candidate, in my best opinion, has very, very little in the way of cogent, solid solutions and I will not stand with or for him under any circumstance. Again, thank you for writing, but if you stand with Obama then we stand apart.    

by Soitgoes 2008-04-01 10:23PM | 0 recs
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You stand with Hillary. Good for you.  

But I disagree that we stand apart.

I will take this fight to the GOP. If the majority of my fellow Dems decide that Hillary is the candidate then I will back her enthusiastically.

by dannyinla 2008-04-01 10:28PM | 0 recs
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Well, your post sound genuine and nicely written. It even has a ring of a pledge to it. But as i said it previously, i am afraid that some serious damage has been done. It is showing in the polls (actually 2 of them have almost the same numbers) and if Senator Obama clinches the nomination and these numbers do not decrease, it is going to be very detrimental.

The thing about primaries is some people do not realize that you need those who voted for the other candidate to vote for your candidate to win. And the faster some of Obama supporter understand this very simple reality, the better it is going to be for Senator Obama. So, i say let the campaigns do the fighting, the supporters of both camps should stick to the issues/policies, leave the personal attacks and stay out of the fight.

Do i think that people will listen to what i said here? No, absolutely no.

PS: I am saying Senator Obama because he is in a better position to clinch the nomination than Senator Clinton. So, please do not attack me on this point.

by likelihood zero 2008-04-01 10:32PM | 0 recs
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I think the people you refer to - those who will NOT vote for the "other guy/gal" - are in the extemist minority.  Most people will come together and vote Dem in Nov.

I agree with your sentiment, however, and hope that, despite all of the talk about various Veeps, that we get a Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket in Nov.

by dannyinla 2008-04-01 10:37PM | 0 recs
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Why should a qualified woman play second fiddle to a guy she clearly feels is less qualified or unqualified.

At this point I don't think an Obama/Clinton makes sense.

Now a Clinton/Obama ticket is fine by me.

by lori 2008-04-01 10:43PM | 0 recs

And why should Obama play second fiddle to a gal he clearly has beat in the nomination process and who is clearly no more qualified based on experience, and clearly less qualified based on judgment?

Lori, your arguments are juvenile.  And so, so easily turned right back at you.

How old are you, anyway?  My guess is 14.

by LawStudent 2008-04-02 12:48AM | 0 recs
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Obama, himself, has used misogynist rhetoric and his campaign has employed racism against Clinton. His supporters have refused to acknowledge the former and defended the latter. That isn't how Dems behave to my mind, and so I don't think of him as a Democrat or even a liberal. I think of him as self-aggrandizing - nothing more.

by Little Otter 2008-04-01 10:40PM | 0 recs
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Whether or not you think of him as a Dem is irrelevent.

The point of my post is that we, as Democratic voters, need to put the needs of the country and its people before our own egos and rally behind the Dem candidate whoever that may be.

by dannyinla 2008-04-01 10:49PM | 0 recs
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Nope, you don't get to do that. The Obama campaign embraced a scorched earth policy and insulted and demeaned both Clinton and her supporters. You've made a mess of the Democratic party and now you want us to clean it up for you. Obama's inability to get Clinton supporters votes is a reason to not make him the candidate.

by Little Otter 2008-04-01 11:21PM | 0 recs
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Are you advocating civil war? You know this cuts both ways. Maybe we should just duel in the street. Would that be better?

by zep93 2008-04-02 04:20AM | 0 recs
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I'm advocating voting for the candidate who did not engage in racist accusations against the other campaign and who did not engage misogynist or (in this case) misandry rhetoric - as Obama and his campaign did. I'm advocating supporting the candidate who proceeded with the level of respect for the opposition that Dem candidates traditionally have provided. I'm advocating supporting the candidate whose campaign strategy wasn't too piss off and insult the opposition, pull their name off of ballots and then whine about it, refuse to count the vote of two major states and then demand everyone suck it up and get behind him.

by Little Otter 2008-04-02 09:47AM | 0 recs
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Yay you. I too am a Democrat. I too am for having a future and not for letting Soylent Green be a work of prophecy.

Any Democratic president with any Democratic Congress gives us a slim chance of surviving as a civilization that has stuff such as toilet paper.

Electing a Republican who turns out to be as bad Bush probably means that our grandchildren will be living in shantytowns, if not bombed out ruins.

by sclminc 2008-04-01 11:48PM | 0 recs
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My wife voted for Hillary. And guess what? We don't hate one another.

Amazingly enough, my wife and I also canceled each other's votes out (or covered all bases, to think of it another way); and, somehow, believe it or not, we also don't hate one another.


I mean, what are the odds?

by Ray Radlein 2008-04-02 12:16AM | 0 recs
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Nutty, isn't it?

by dannyinla 2008-04-02 06:46AM | 0 recs
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  Since when do Democrats put intolerance, and unacceptance in the White House?
  This is why he will NEVER get my vote not even as VP-for that boat has sailed along time ago.
by artsykr 2008-04-02 02:10AM | 0 recs
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After the Rev. Wright deal Obama made a wonderful speech about race. However the outrage was not about race, it is about the hatred and divisiveness that was being embraced. It is about the vile things being said about respected members of this party. It is about "God Damn America". It's about fear and distrust of this country. It's about how can a man who wants to be President of all Americans embrace this for 20 years, choose be baptized into this. Choose to Baptize his children into this and raise his children in this manner. I am sorry you can rationalize it all you want but the words and the deeds of Senator Obama don't match up. I have no Idea who he really is because he presents a well crafted persona that is has no real depth to it and I fear that it may be intentionally vague. So you are requesting that I vote for someone who I am not sure who he really is or what he really believes in? Tell me how do I vote for someone who I now am not sure that I can trust?

by RedstateLib 2008-04-02 05:44AM | 0 recs
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embrace "this"?  By "this" you mean what exactly?  Bcause Obama did not embrace "God damn America".

Methinks you are a gullible one who believes whatever the media tells them to believe - you saw 30 seconds of a speech by Wright and, I'm willing to bet, did not watch the entire 40 minute speech and view his comments in context. And now you're an expert on the man because the media has made you so.

As to your last question about voting for someone you do not trust.  Are you new at this?  Is this your first election?  

by dannyinla 2008-04-02 08:29AM | 0 recs


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