Mormon Prop 8 Plan: 1,000,000 yard signs

After the break, I've posted a letter sent from Bob Packer on July 28th to the California LDS (Mormon) stake (diocese) presidents.

I'll note a couple of items that caught my attention before posting the letter without further comment:

Apparently, there is a plan in place to put up one million 'Yes on 8' yard signs at 7:00 am on September 22nd.

This letter makes clear that those walking their precincts on behalf of the 'Yes on 8' campaign are not doing so to persuade their neighbors, but rather to identify potential 'Yes' votes.  As such, the precinct walking is clearly part of a standard get-out-the-vote operation, rather than an attempt to change hearts and minds.

July 28, 2008

Dear Presidents:

Yesterday a wonderful meeting was held with the eight Area Directors in Northern California. These are amazingly powerful people. The Area folks represent the grassroots effort for the passage of the Proposition and their responsibility overlays each Coordinating Council. This was a great and powerful meeting. I assure you that the LDS folks who work closely with or who are on the Board directly of the coalition are very impressive and politically experienced folks. It was great to see.

I have a few answers to frequent questions that are being asked and I feel that if I were you, I'd wanna know. Hope that this helps:

Organization, it' s a little confusing!? Answer: The Brethren have felt that the best way to organize and pass the Proposition is to have an Ecclesiastical arm and a Grassroots arm to organization. Elder Dalton, Area Seventy and Chair of California for every thing, reports to the Brethren. I assist him. We work with coordinating councils, all 17 in California and then Stake Presidents and Bishops, rank and file. The second leg to organization is grassroots. This is done so as to engage as many like minded folks who are not LDS, but whom will help. The senior folks who run the grassroots are LDS at the coalition and are headed by Glen Greener and Gary Lawrence. These folks are assisted in Nor Cal by Boyd Smith, and in turn by Area, then Regional Directors. The regional directors overlay Stakes. Below are Zip Code Supervisors by wards.

What is the role of grassroots? Answer: The grassroots folks in each Stake, Regional Directors will train zip code supervisors. Their goal, is to find the voters who will vote yes. It is not to persuade others ... but to find those who will vote yes. The ZCS will seek, with the RD help, to encourage as many as the ward members and like minded people as possible, to accept eight different responsibilities, all from walking a precinct to determine folks opinions (not to sell), to calling, to placing signage, to a myriad of essential tasks that Area Directors will oversee. Please know Presidents, that the RDs/ZCS's will be contacting many many people to accept responsibilities. We hope that you are fine with this happening without the Stake President or Bishop approving each assignment! We assume that you are ok with that!!

Will like minded people from other congregations really join with us? Answer: There was a conference call last week with 1200 pastors in California with James Dobson as the featured speaker. This Thursday, there is another conference call with 2000 California clergy. It appears that the effort on the part of like minded people is huge compared to eight years ago. The Area Directors and Regional Directors will be aware of contacting the congregations for a joint effort.  Walking the precincts in particular is where we all may have an opportunity to grab a good friend of another religion and walk with them. If LDS people want to participate in that conference and know of the site of broadcast, they are welcome to go.

What is the timeline from here for the next few weeks.? Answer:

1.  Congregations of LDS all having been taught the doctrine in July so that they may see the importance of fundraising and grassroots participation. Some Stakes have called all Stake Council and wives as well as several folks who may be able to contribute not on the Council. The Stake President, in that Cottage Meeting, has asked for their support. A great part of a fund raising effort, accomplished in one night.

2.  August 1st:  All Regional Directors have been called and contacted by Area Directors for training.

3.  August 3rd:  Training of Regional Directors commences by the Area Directors

4.  August 1st-10th:  Zip Code Supervisors are in place and are to be trained by Regional Directors..

5.  August 16th:  The First of three Saturday precinct walks are to be held under the direction of the Regional Directors.

6.  August 23rd:  The Second of the Saturday precinct walks are to be held.

7.  Sept. 22nd:  One million signs will be put up in yards around the state at 7:00am.

Other timeline events will be planned and executed and you will be updated.

That's enough. if I caused more questions than answered, please hit me back.

Thanks for all that you and have on your plate. The Lord will make up whatever we all feel we are lacking.

Brother Packer

UPDATE: Surprise, surprise. The original source blog is now no longer public. Oh well. I did a screen capture that is available at my place:

Or you can find the now hidden page here:

Brilliant move taking the site down. I had a running bet with several friends that it'd be down within 24 hours. Thanks for coming through for me!


... the avalanche of signs is, indeed, a goal of the Yes on 8 folks. Our ward training program said that signs would be handed out a few days before September 22nd, but with instructions to not actually put them out until 7 a.m. on the 22nd. They wanted to give the effect that suddenly the signs were blossoming all over the place and all-of-a-sudden everyone was supporting the proposition.

UPDATE III: This letter was originally found on this blog:

The letter was presented on that site as having been written by Boyd K. Packer.

According to commenters who were able to visit the site while it was still accessible, this notice was placed there in response to my diaries:

I am Bob Packer, a church volunteer working with the coalition supporting Proposition 8. For the record, the letter you are citing was written by me, not by President Boyd K. Packer of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles or any other Church leaders.

In view of Bob's claim, I take it that any question of authorship has been settled and that the letter has been confirmed legit by the 'Yes on 8' side.

Chino Blanco

Tags: lds, Mormon, Proposition 8 (all tags)



by Chino Blanco 2008-08-19 07:47PM | 0 recs
Re: LDS (Mormon) 'Yes on 8' Game Plan

Maybe we should tell the right wing protestant evangelicals that the Mormon Church (which they regard as a cult) agrees with them.  Maybe if they are forced to choose between agreeing with butt-punching sodomites and agreeing with godless cultists they'll go with the sodomites?

by psychodrew 2008-08-19 07:57PM | 0 recs
No doubt ...

... it's a very strange coalition the 'Yes' side have put together for Prop 8 in CA.

The Mormons should be grateful that folks in the Ozarks (where I'm from) don't get the chance to vote on Mormon marriages.

by Chino Blanco 2008-08-19 08:19PM | 0 recs
Re: LDS (Mormon) 'Yes on 8' Game Plan

Unfortunately, the cultists have very strong "family values", and like most Republicans, they have no problem being total hypocrites when it serves their purpose.

by LakersFan 2008-08-20 10:10AM | 0 recs
I wonder what Mitt Romney thinks

by Lakrosse 2008-08-19 08:48PM | 0 recs
Romney on Falwell and the LDS ... /september/34.74.html

   Q: How do you think relations between Mormons and Trinitarian Christians have changed during your lifetime?

   A: I don't know that there's been a significant change relating to doctrine. [But] several months ago, not long before he died, I had the occasion of having the Rev. Jerry Falwell at our home. He said that when he was getting ready to oppose same-sex marriage in California, he met with the president of my church in Salt Lake City, and they agreed to work together in a campaign in California. He said, "Far be it from me to suggest that we don't have the same values and the same objectives."

by Chino Blanco 2008-08-19 09:14PM | 0 recs
At first glance of the title

Yes on (having) 8 (wives)!

by optimusprime 2008-08-20 04:17AM | 0 recs

As someone who grew up Mormon, it's the hypocrisy that makes your joke funny that pisses me off (not you - I mean the hypocrisy of Mormons who are out pounding the pavement for Prop 8).

One unpopular minority beating up on another unpopular minority.

Wouldn't Jesus be proud.

by Chino Blanco 2008-08-20 04:48AM | 0 recs
Re: LDS (Mormon) 'Yes on 8' Game Plan

Don't religious organizations lose their tax exempt status if they advocate for political purposes? I'm confused.

by LakersFan 2008-08-20 10:08AM | 0 recs
My understanding is that ...

... the LDS are well within their rights and too smart to knowingly break the letter of the law ...

Of course, they've already broken the spirit of our political rules, and I thought this post did an admirable job of calling them to task for it: 19/615

by Chino Blanco 2008-08-20 10:12AM | 0 recs


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