sleazy kossacks

(written for and Crossposted at DailyKos)

what in the fuck is going on here?

I am so angry and disappointed i can't see straight. I came to my favorite web site today to be greeted by one of the great pieces of misogyny in liberal political history. I am currently in shock after reading a diary from DHinMi. /19/04313/0323

It is just too vile for words. and the worst part is that some people LIKED the post. they should be as ashamed as he is.

The Diarest should, IMO, be banned from the site, or at least suspended. he certainly should be removed from the front pages, if he appears there. this human jerk off is HURTING the Obama campaign, he's hurting this website, and he's hurting the reputation of progressive men everywhere.

If this gets me banned, this site is not worth staying.

Does anyone give a RAT FUCK whether this sexist dog used to think Hillary Clinton was hot. or that he's so disapponted in her campaign he apparntly has lost his erection that she used to give him?

i will admit, i don't know DHinMi's history on this site. he might be a great person besides this bullshit. but this is too hideous to ignore. he owes the entire website an apology, the Obama campaign an apology, obviously he owes Clinton and her followers an apology, and he owes every man on this site who's not a sexist fucking pig an apology. and the moderators owe the biggest apology for leaving this sexist piece of shit post up for so long.

Tags: dailykos, front pagers, Hillary Clinton, misogyny, objectification, sexism (all tags)



by McTrollop 2008-04-19 02:08PM | 0 recs

Well it could be worse.  Marko's could be posted another thread like the darkened clip.  As i recall he posted that Wed morning after BO lost RI, TX, and OH on super Tuesday.  And he re-posted this three times over the next two days.

And as i recall after the last debate where BO got super clocked he posted a thread saying HRC is not longer a democrat.  

Is it just me or is there a pattern of conduct here that is inconsistant with respect for the democratic party.


by giusd 2008-04-19 02:12PM | 0 recs

Good call! Clinton and her supporters don't always provide that lack of respect; occasionally, Obama supporters do as well.

by ragekage 2008-04-19 02:21PM | 0 recs
Don't praise Obama supporters so easily or .

turn this into an attack on Clinton supporters.

Catchaz is being viciously attacked on Daily Kos.

There are jerks who support Obama and jerks who support Clinton.  There just are jerks.

by TomP 2008-04-19 02:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Don't praise Obama supporters so easily or .

I don't get the obsession with Kos. I've never spent much time there; my main place'o'business has been MyDD, and I don't get why so many people reference/revile/rail/etc against it. I could go to Hillaryis44 and go "ZOMG Clinton supporters!!!", but why?

by ragekage 2008-04-19 02:26PM | 0 recs
I post on Daily Kos often.

I have never been to Hillary is 44.  Nor do I support Clinton.

Sexism is wrong.

Whether here, Daily Kos, or elsewhere.

by TomP 2008-04-19 02:51PM | 0 recs
thanks TomP


by catchaz 2008-04-19 03:40PM | 0 recs
for the record...

i don't think she's a Democrat anymore either.

and i damn sure don't think DHinMi deserves to be called a Dem.

i'm a equal opportunity hater!

by catchaz 2008-04-19 02:22PM | 0 recs
Re: for the record...

A few things here.

First, DH is just, well DH. Plenty of people think he's kind of an unpleasant person. They used to absolutely despise him at Booman's site (back when I used to read it a couple years ago).

I don't have a real problem with him, and he does post some good stuff most of the time. But I'm also not surprised if he says something stupid.

Personally, I just don't find anything he said to be sexist. Sorry, but I don't. There's a difference between juvenile comments ("Hillary is a MILF!") and sexist comments ("women aren't smart enough to be president!"). If he had said she was attractive but dumb, that's another story. But saying a capable politician is also attractive doesn't seem so bad to me.

In fact, last week someone posted a clip of Hillary from the early '90s, and I commented that she was hot. Is that also sexist? If it makes anyone feel better, I have no problem saying Barack Obama is handsome.

Incidentally, a few days ago Peggy Noonan posted a truly despicable piece of self-hating misogynist crap at the WSJ, and no one cared. Here's an excerpt:

[Clinton will] need more than four years to shake off the impression she made in 2008. And this is how you'll know she's making another bid for the presidency. She will wear skirts. Gone will be the pantsuits that made her look like a small blond man with breasts.

Lovely stuff, isn't it? There's plenty more where that came from, but it wasn't even mentioned here. No one here cares what the republicans say about Hillary, they're just waiting to start fights with dKos.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-19 04:47PM | 0 recs
Re: for the record...

"DH is just, well DH."  Is that the same as boys will be boys?

by Scotch 2008-04-19 05:17PM | 0 recs
Re: for the record...

Oh, I also see the problem here...

"sexist pig," "sexist dog" and "sexist fucking pig" are not exactly terms that will get your point across.

I know you're upset. I really do, and I'm sorry you feel that way because I've had that gut-churning feeling before because of things done and said online. But I think the strong negative reaction there to your diary is the result of your tone and language.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-19 04:52PM | 0 recs
A gang on Daily Kos

is troll rating catchaz.

It is not Barack Obama.  It is Daily Kos.

by TomP 2008-04-19 02:21PM | 0 recs
Re: A gang on Daily Kos

You know, I've noticed there's a group of the same Clinton supporters that do the same thing here. But I guess that's okay.

(I know you personally would agree it's just as dumb either way, Tom, I'm just proving a point)

by ragekage 2008-04-19 02:27PM | 0 recs
And I have criticized

them also.

I was defending Obama and saying it was idiots.

So try a new strawman argument.
Sorry, not a Clinton supporter.  Try a new strawman to avoid standing up agaisnt sexist garbage.

Catchaz is a good progressive who supports Obama.

by TomP 2008-04-19 02:58PM | 0 recs
Re: sleazy kossack doesn't want to F$#$ Hillary an

For pity's sake this is the second diary on the subject of a single posting at the Great Orange Satan today.

Render unto Markos what is Markos'...

And please give our diary list a rest from faux controversy elsewhere.  That goes for NoQuarter and Hillaryis44 as well.  If I wanted to know what was going on there, which I don't, I would go have a look for myself.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-04-19 02:30PM | 0 recs
So, you don;t want

discussion of it?

This is an Obama supporter who is decent, as most are.

Isd there nay attack on Hillary Clinton that is not okay?

I will not be silent in the face of hate and sexism.

by TomP 2008-04-19 02:55PM | 0 recs
Re: So, you don;t want

Discuss ad nauseum but does it have to be here, and two diaries on the subject within a few hours?  Where does it end?  As I said I am impatient with broadsides here about NoQuarter and Hillaryis44, et al, as well.  If content from those sites adds materially to the discussion here then fine, it just doesn't seem to be relevant in this case.  It seems far more appropriate to deal with them on the offending site itself, doesn't it?  And surely these could be dealt with in comments in the open thread if need be instead of cluttering up our rather bloated diary list, it's bad enough as it is.

I am not trying to impose this point of view, just expressing it.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-04-19 03:13PM | 0 recs
Re: So, you don;t want

Actually it is relevant.  It is one of the biggest political blogs in the country and it is full of sexism and hatred for Hillary Clinton much of it just plain blatent.  Many of us stopped posting there because of it.  It is symbolic of the underlying sexism and mysogny in the democratic party that is rampent among so called democrats, and among liberals.  I never knew until I lived through this election, and a lot of it on Daily Kos, just how much hatred for women was left untouched and untouchable in this country.  At least there is little of it on mydd in comparison, and we should be able to discuss it without a lot of complaining and hassle from the shushers who don't particularly notice it.

by Scotch 2008-04-19 05:14PM | 0 recs
Re: So, you don;t want

Many of us stopped posting there because of it.  So go the whole hog and stop reading it too, I did months ago and haven't missed it.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-04-19 05:42PM | 0 recs
Re: So, you don;t want

I read it in this diary.  I wouldn't give Kos anymore hits than he has now.  Patiently waiting for it's demise.

by Scotch 2008-04-19 06:12PM | 0 recs
Re: So, you don;t want

Well there you go.  Ignoring the postings there, or at least refraining from importing them to this site is a tactic I would suggest would improve the mental health of all concerned.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-04-19 06:15PM | 0 recs
faux controversy indeed

But you're being disingenuous, catchaz. I wasn't crazy about the FPed diary, but your title misconstrues what DH wrote and you, therefore, lose credibility.

by dannyinla 2008-04-19 02:32PM | 0 recs
You are defending that sexist


My God.  Too sexist for me.

by TomP 2008-04-19 02:54PM | 0 recs
Re: You are defending that sexist

Where did I defend it?

by dannyinla 2008-04-19 03:00PM | 0 recs
Re: sleazy kossack doesn't want to F$#$

so the outrage is that he called her a MILF?

by clintonmccain 2008-04-19 02:40PM | 0 recs
On;ly a pig defends


Does it fit?

I don't like your name either.

You harm Barack Obama with that name.

by TomP 2008-04-19 02:52PM | 0 recs
Re: On;ly a pig defends

Come on now - he said Clinton was a MILF in 1992 - and then justified it by (seemingly) saying he wanted to sleep with her because he admired her AND because she was an attractive woman. He chose his words pretty freaking poorly - but nowhere did he claim he "lost his erection" or had some raging hard-on or anything else. He called her a MILF - you can argue it's inappropriate - but there's no need to put words in his mouth to justify your positions.

by TheSilverMonkey 2008-04-19 05:47PM | 0 recs
Re: sleazy kossack doesn't want to F$#$

according to the story, if you actually read it and understood the words, he didn't even call her a MILF.  It was the first time he heard the term (implied from someone else) and it was applied to clinton.

It's a good thing he didn't say who he heard it from because there's a mob a brewin'

by DawnG 2008-04-19 07:37PM | 0 recs
diary totally objectified Clinton

who is running for the DEMOCRATIC nomination. that's fucked up. i don't like Clinton, but i HATE sexists.

by catchaz 2008-04-19 03:43PM | 0 recs
Re: sleazy kossack

DailyKos is famous for sexism and mysogny.  Is this the first time you noticed? Beside the fact that DHinMI is batshit crazy.  Did you ever try having a conversation with him?  He blows a gaskett at the slightest thing.  He is just one big button that can't be pushed.

by Scotch 2008-04-19 05:07PM | 0 recs
What DHinMI

said was unacceptable.  His words were really over the line.

by Student Guy 2008-04-19 05:31PM | 0 recs
In fact

I broke with my sig and recced you because this needed to be said.

by Student Guy 2008-04-19 05:32PM | 0 recs
Well You have to know DhinMI's history.

Do a Google search and you can find his history. He created enough trouble between his former boss and the NH Democratic Party. Ask Kathy Sullivan the former Chairwoman of NH Dem. Party. I'll leave the details for you find out.

by louisprandtl 2008-04-19 05:39PM | 0 recs
And I uprated a bunch of your comments

by Student Guy 2008-04-19 05:53PM | 0 recs
It's facinating... a hundred people can look at the same thing and each see something completely different.

I read that entire story...twice, and no where did I see any mention that he wanted to "Fuck" Hillary Clinton.  I didn't even see any mention that he wanted to do anything sexual with her, only that, back in 1992 when he went to college he found her hip and better looking than previous first ladies and that she has somehow lost that hipness.

That was IT!  What in the HELL are you talking about???  You're spewing all kinds of judgement on a person you don't even know, about something they didn't even say!

I can't believe you even wrote this with a straight face.  As a woman I think you are GROSSLY misrepesenting this.

I thought we were supposed to be better that this?  I thought WE were supposed to be the rational ones.  I thought WE were supposed to be the reasoned and intelligent ones.  To see people gushing over this judgemental GARBAGE is astounding.

What the hell?

by DawnG 2008-04-19 07:22PM | 0 recs


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