McCain slanders Chelsea, gets votes from Clinton supporters?!?!

Oh, yeah! what a treat to come to a Democratic site and find all these so-called feminists professing their desire to vote for John McCain! what a brilliant, astute, feminist choice to make!

So, for all those McCain supporters, here's John McCain's wonderful feminist view of women and children.

This is YOUR new candidate in action:

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because Janet Reno is her father."

OUCH! that really hurt me to type that. it is one of the most offensive things i have ever read. he's attacking a CHILD, a LITTLE GIRL, as ugly. and he is attacking the female attorney general of the US based on her appearance.

My sincere apologies to EVERYONE for posting such a hideous and offensive line. i have never done it before, i hope i will never do it again. but it is necessary to try to jolt some of the more insane people on this site back to reality. or more likely to point out to those who may be tempted to follow them just how deranged they have become.


anyone who votes for this man, who advocates voting for this man, or who advocates his election, is a traitor to Chelsea Clinton, a traitor to the Democratic party, and a traitor to the ideals Hillary Clinton espouses. and if you call yourself a feminist while doing it you are a liar and a traitor to feminism.

i know i should have sympathy, self-hatred is a hideous and destructive thing. but since they are now supporting a man who attacks LITTLE GIRLS AS BEING UGLY, they've lost all claim to any sympathy.

McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
and you're voting for him?

McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
and you're voting for him?

McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
and you're voting for him?

McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
and you're voting for him?
then you are as bad as he is...

it is WAY past time to remove ReThug goons and trolls from this site.

Tags: general election, misogyny, racism, Republicans, self-hatred (all tags)



Re: Democratic women for McCain!

Not only did he attack a little girl, but he apparently has awful taste.  Chelsea is quite attractive.  Not the least of which is because she's obviously strong and intelligent.

by the mollusk 2008-05-19 09:03AM | 0 recs
She was a bit of a duckling back then

I always liked her, but I have to admit that she was as awkward as most teenagers back in those days.

Now she's a beautiful woman who is also quite intelligent and savvy, which I think was the best response to that particular crass joke.

I hope she campaigns for Obama with her parents.  She's been a champ in a very nasty campaign battle.

by Dracomicron 2008-05-19 09:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

He also called his own wife a c%^t.  ANd this is the man you want nominating a successor to the seat of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the Thurgood Marshall of the women's movement?

by Strummerson 2008-05-19 09:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

Just as bad if not worse, he insulted Reno with that little quip.  Janet Reno was AG of the US, an accomplished, intelligent woman who broke a lot of glass ceilings to get to that position, not unlike, dare I say, Hillary Clinton.

So if you're a Hillary supporter who would actually consider not supporting the Dem nominee regardless, I suggest you take a hard look at this man who judges women on looks instead of accomplishments.

by rb608 2008-05-19 09:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

Well, the Democratic party is about to give it's nomination to a Man over a woman not based on his accomplishments, but based on his looks and charm.

by karajan72 2008-05-19 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

You are either joking, or woefully uninformed.

by belicheat 2008-05-19 09:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

So you think it would be okay to look at a woman who is successful in her chosen field, impeccably educated at the finest schools, and who has worked hard to get where she is; then say, "She got there not on her accomplishments, but based on her looks and charm."

Gosh, thanks for contributing to the sexism.  We didn't have enough of that here.

by rb608 2008-05-19 09:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

Oh, horseshit.

She lost because of her own record. I know neither you nor she like to talk about it, but she is responsible for losing this race.

by BlueinColorado 2008-05-19 09:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

"maybe its the war vote".....whispers citizendave

by citizendave 2008-05-19 09:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

...and the woefully poor campaign strategy that was incapable of adapting to the realities of 2008.

by N in Seattle 2008-05-19 11:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

Well at least McCain's not part of a party that treats the first viable woman for president like a leftover meal and throws her down the garbage disposal.   And gives the nomination to a rookie GQ looking inexperienced man with a great smile.

by karajan72 2008-05-19 09:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

Yes, because "the party" voted against her in contest after contest. Because "the party" lost a huge 100-superdelegate advantage. Because the party mismanaged her finances and left her heavily in debt.

It was "the party" that did it.

by Reeves 2008-05-19 09:11AM | 0 recs

McCain's merely part of a party that has yet to even consider nominating a woman to be a presidential or vice presidential nominee.  They're nowhere near ready to even start throwing them down the garbage disposal yet.

Nobody "gave" the nomination to Obama. He earned it.  Further, Clinton has seen every normal courtesy from the party... and more.

by Dracomicron 2008-05-19 09:11AM | 0 recs
I don't remember putting

Hillary down my garbage disposal.  In fact I was never against Hillary.  Mostly I was for Edwards because I am a populist.

I simply do not understand why not electing Hillary is somehow equivalent to doing some sort of physical violence to her.  In a campaign, the person who gets the most delegates wins, it isn't an attack, it is the facts.  You don't have to be against one person to be for someone else.  When I was for Edwards I wasn't against anybody...I just wanted my candidate, the populist candidate to win.

by Sychotic1 2008-05-19 09:12AM | 0 recs
Re: I don't remember putting

The voters have thwarted Hillary's destiny. This is akin to violence on her, since the nomination was always her. She owned it. Obama has stolen the nomination from it's rightful owner.

by Terrance Manley 2008-05-19 09:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

Yep. He's just another affirmative action hire, right?

God that line worked great when I was knocking doors in West Virginia!

by Terrance Manley 2008-05-19 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

it would be disturbing if you actually believed this.

by the mollusk 2008-05-19 09:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

"GQ looking" is a pretty good dog whistle phrase.

Although I would happily pull the lever for Hillary if she had won, she lost fair and square. Being the first viable woman for president doesn't mean she's entitled to a free pass. Becoming president wouldn't really mean anything if it did.

You need to accept that there are millions of people who disagree with you, and we can't all be superficial morons who just want some "GQ looking" man in office.

by Brannon 2008-05-19 09:17AM | 0 recs
Cut the crap

and stop making all of us women seem like foot-stomping victims of male domination. If you feel like a "leftover meal that has been thrown down the garbage disposal" because your candidate was inept at running a presidential campaign then you have serious issues that need to be addressed in the privacy of an air conditioned office that has PhD on the door.

by april34fff 2008-05-19 10:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Cut the crap

Most of them get their phsychological help down at the fillin station.Air conditioned office LOL "where you from anywho?  You slay me.

by johnny sexton 2008-05-19 10:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Cut the crap

uh... I think nrafter was referring to McCain and the Republicans.

by mistersite 2008-05-19 01:05PM | 0 recs
I vote present!

That is not a vote for McCain.

by indydem99 2008-05-19 09:10AM | 0 recs
Re: I vote present!

It is a chickenshit way to avoid admitting that you are helping McCain get elected.  I can see why you like the idea.

by Blue Neponset 2008-05-19 09:15AM | 0 recs
I'm glad you see the difference

Voting "present" can be part of an overall strategy; if you used your general election vote to vote for, say, a write-in or third party candidate, you could probably fool yourself into thinking that you're establishing a protest vote strategy meant to establish a minimum level of votes for the Green party or whatnot to recieve federal funds for their next campaign, but what you're really doing is voting on the strategy of helping McCain win while saying that at least you didn't vote for him.

So the nuance that you're grasping is excellent; it's just foolish.

by Dracomicron 2008-05-19 09:16AM | 0 recs
Re: I vote present!

If I remember correctly, present votes in Illinois counted as "no" for all practical purposes.

You're welcome to vote in any way that will actually count as a vote for Obama. "Present" isn't actually one of them in the GE, though.

by Aris Katsaris 2008-05-19 09:19AM | 0 recs
Re: I vote present!

Other way around. It's really more of a "Yes, However..." vote, used strategically by legislators to enhance a bill before it goes to the Governor.

As an IL resident the "present" smear against Obama is one of my least favorites (albeit not a terribly effective one) as it shows a complete lack of understanding of the Illinois legislature.

by Homebrewer 2008-05-19 09:57AM | 0 recs

mccain has so much experience. way more than obama or hillary or even methuselah....and experience matters!

don't be sold on someone who could inspire the masses with "words"......words suck........don't believe me? just take a look at how i abuse the language.....see?

mccain/lieberman 08!!!

by citizendave 2008-05-19 09:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic women for McCain!

My sister and neice were for Hillary, but they admitted to me yesterday that if Obama is the nominee, he will get their votes.  Any democrat is better than McBush, and if anyone doesn't agree than look back to the last 8 years and if that is what you loved than by all means vote for McBush.

by Spanky 2008-05-19 09:18AM | 0 recs
I hesitate to even bring it up, but...

McCain's documented infidelity and treatment of women like tools outmatches a certain large dog we know.  

I don't think personal lives should be a campaign issue, but I think it bears note if people are looking at him as an alternative for feminists.  This fella holds women in very, very low regard.

by Dracomicron 2008-05-19 09:22AM | 0 recs
does anyone hear an echo?

catchaz - your diary is well-intended.  

but up until the time i hit post on this comment - there is not one HRC supporter caring to comment here.  and alternatively there is a sudden rush of BO supporters (and a lot of new ones) posting here and spamming diaries with a lot of negativity.  your diary assumes that BO is the winner, but maybe it would be a good idea to wait for a winner to be decided before starting this dialogue?

by canadian gal 2008-05-19 09:25AM | 0 recs
Re: does anyone hear an echo?

Negativity?  Have you glanced at the Wreck List lately?

by rfahey22 2008-05-19 09:30AM | 0 recs
i'll wait if they do

thank you very much canadian gal for your thoughtful repsonse. i sincerely appreciate it. there is not alot of reasoned responses between supporters of different candidates (i'm guilty here as well) so your response was very welcomed.

but i write this diary now because NOW is when this site is full of Clinton supporters saying they are going to vote for McCain. if they stop saying it, i'll stop trying to disuade them from it.

honestly, i can agree that IF you think Obama is sexist you should not vote for him. (i obviously don't think he's sexist, or i wouldn't vote for him.) but going over to vote for McCain, who slandered a CHILD, a female child, and the female attorney general of the United States, is just going WAY to far.

by catchaz 2008-05-19 09:33AM | 0 recs
Re: i'll wait if they do

This site is not full of Clinton supporters who are going to vote for McCain.  There are sites like that, but this isn't one of them.  Most of us have said we will vote for the Democrat, period.  I think this is much ado about nothing.  

by JustJennifer 2008-05-19 09:41AM | 0 recs
thanks, i hope you're right

thanks JustJennifer for your hopeful thoughts.

i hope you are right. i admit to letting to very loud voices that say they'll vote McCain drown out the others who aren't so loud about their decision.

i honestly can't imagine anyone who likes hillary Clinton could vote for someone who called her only child ugly. so maybe they won't.

by catchaz 2008-05-19 09:46AM | 0 recs
Re: does anyone hear an echo?

Why do you refer to McCain as the winner of the Republican primary?

by Brannon 2008-05-19 09:39AM | 0 recs
Re: does anyone hear an echo?

Because McCain has already won over half of the republican delegates?

by Ernst 2008-05-19 10:21AM | 0 recs
Re: does anyone hear an echo?

But what if all those delegates change their mind at the convention?

by Brannon 2008-05-19 10:32AM | 0 recs
Re: does anyone hear an echo?

He'd eat them, probably.

by Ernst 2008-05-19 10:46AM | 0 recs
Re: does anyone hear an echo?

I think you are wrong...Many HRC supporters have already issued a statement that "if Obama wins I will vote for McCain".  He is responding to said supporters...Many Clinton supporters cite the polls regarding this scenario, (IF HRC doesn't win I will vote for McCain  ie  Kyles) the diarist has every right to inspect McAncient's past with women and his treatment of them...

by hootie4170 2008-05-19 09:57AM | 0 recs
Re: does anyone hear an echo?

sorry ot, but the pens won!

by canadian gal 2008-05-19 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: does anyone hear an echo?

On to taking the Stanley Cup to Pennsylvania....

by hootie4170 2008-05-19 11:44AM | 0 recs
I find the gay-baiting

even more offensive than the "ugly" comment.  

by JJE 2008-05-19 09:29AM | 0 recs
yes, sorry i didn't address that

it was in an earlier draft but i somehow cut it out.

by catchaz 2008-05-19 09:34AM | 0 recs
Actually it was far worse. He called her ugly

Janet Reno a man and Hillary an adultress.

by heresjohnny 2008-05-19 09:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Actually it was far worse. He called her ugly

Yep.  A triumvarite of Republican hate.  That's why his audience thought it was so funny.

by soccerandpolitics 2008-05-19 10:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Actually it was far worse. He called her ugly

Yeah pretty scummy. I'd have punched him in the mouth if I was Bill.

by heresjohnny 2008-05-19 10:16AM | 0 recs
I Remember in 1993

Republicans all over talk radio saying that Chelsea Clinton was the ugliest girl they had ever seen since Amy Carter.

by Zzyzzy 2008-05-19 10:04AM | 0 recs
Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true

But it was made at the time when Clinton hatred was rampant within the Republican party.  Since that time, McCain has grown to rather like and respect Hillary and I'm sure he deeply regrets joining the cruel fun of that time if he made that remark.

by lombard 2008-05-19 10:06AM | 0 recs
do you know if he apologized?

surely he has, but i don't remember it specifically.

anyone know?

by catchaz 2008-05-19 10:11AM | 0 recs
I don't know

I've only heard this remark reported by internet posters second hand.

by lombard 2008-05-19 10:16AM | 0 recs

I think remarks such as these are reprehensible and candidate's children should be off limits unless they do something that merits criticism.  Husbands or Wives (if they are like Hillary or Michelle Obama) aren't necessarily off limits because they do step in it once in awhile.

That is why I have been filled with disgust on some on the left jeer at Laura or Jenna Bush with the scorn that has normally been the trademark of freepers.  Laura has conducted herself relatively well as a first lady and has stayed relatively clear of controversy and Jenna seems to be a lovely and genuinely likeable and nice young woman.

by lombard 2008-05-19 10:22AM | 0 recs
Re: P.S. VERY good point

thank you for mentioning that. it is extremely scummy. we cannot act like the ReThugs!

by catchaz 2008-05-19 11:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true

I believe the "bitch" comment was made recently no?

by heresjohnny 2008-05-19 10:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true

At a rally of his. Didn't say it himself, but called it a good question.

by Ernst 2008-05-19 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true

Oh yes. I know he didn't say it. Sorry for it sounding like he said it.

He would think it was a good question rather than terribly offensive after what he reportedly called his wife.

by heresjohnny 2008-05-19 10:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true

He got a long history of a having an explosive temper and profanity laden tirades.

I'm not surprised his wife had to endure some of his episodes.

A lot of powerful men have explosive tempers, and by most of them it isn't pretty but doesn't effect their long term judgment and relationships. As long as the good they do outshines that I don't mind.

But McCain is supposed to far worse then average and a bearer of vindictive grudges for small (and imagined) slights. Not somebody who I'd trust as a commander in chief.

by Ernst 2008-05-19 10:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true

He seems like Bush with roid rage.

by heresjohnny 2008-05-19 10:46AM | 0 recs


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