Michelle Obama & Sexism in the Media.

(cross-posted at Kickin' it with CG)

Back in May, the Women's Media Center together with Media Matters launched a new video and online petition campaign illustrating the pervasive nature of sexism in the media's coverage entitled "Sexism Sells, But We're Not Buying It."

The purpose of the WMC campaign states that, "while Hillary Clinton's campaign has cast a spotlight on the issue of sexism, this isn't a partisan issue: it's about making sure that women's voices are present and powerful in our national dialogue." 

Since the GE campaign has begun, we have seen troubling new signs of sexism rear its ugly head.  And the Women's Media Center has remained vigilant.  Below is an excerpt of an email I received from them today.

Dear Canadian Gal,

We hardly had time to recover from the spiteful, often sexist, barrage of sentiment against Hillary Clinton, when the assault began in earnest on Michelle Obama. Last week she made the front page of The New York Times which touted a personality "makeover," then she "surprised" observers by playing nicely with others on ABC's The View.  This, as the gears of a sinister smear machine racheted up a notch, insinuating un-American, anti-white motives on her part. If reading this or any of the electoral coverage on women makes you angry - help us fight bias.  

We must be vigilant here. Both sexism and racism are in play.  Use of seemingly innocuous words such as "strong woman" in referring to Michelle have to be analyzed: what, exactly, do you mean by that? Speculating endlessly about implanted codes in "fist bumps" and what riotous signal they may be giving to other African Americans is an outrage. And for those who have thrilled to the prospect of spitfires going at each other for the amusement of the media and public, you may be in for a disappointment. This is what Cindy McCain said about Michelle this week: "I think she's a good woman, a fine mother we both are in an interesting line of work right now." And Michelle on Hillary Clinton: " I think that Hillary Clinton, as she said, has made 18 million cracks on the ceiling and we need to keep pushing it and pushing it. She's taken [the hits] so that when my girls come along they won't have to fight it as badly." We must reign in the destructive, woman-belittling dramas in our media. We must speak up for all women subjected to them.

We need your support so we can keep on advocating for women to be represented fairly. The WMC has been at the lead of the fight against sexism in the media. Our "Sexism Sells, But We're Not Buying It" campaign already has more than 200,000 views and nearly 6,000 signatures, demanding that networks be held accountable for language that goes over the line of acceptability.

Please sign now to be included.

For more information, please visit www.womensmediacenter.com

------ End of Forwarded Message

If you have not yet had the opportunity to sign the petition calling out the media fail, I encourage you to do so.

Tags: Media, Michelle Obama, sexism (all tags)




by canadian gal 2008-06-26 07:30PM | 0 recs

Truly, media=fail (bread crumb...)

by Sanguine Giant 2008-06-27 12:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Indeed

Sorry but I got told in no uncertain terms that sexism didn't exist. That Sen. Clinton was making up the sexism. That I was just an cranky, old, disgruntled feminist who was out of touch with today. That there was nooo sexism.

I got yelled at and well. Thing is NOW that you're yelling sexism I'm supposed to heed the call aid?

Sorry but when I was yellin it. I was told it didn't exist, Sweety.

Not sour grapes. But just like that fella looking for an honest man.... LOL. You guys are a trip.

I'm going back to the beach. Let me know when they have that Unity thing worked out.

LOL Funny.

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 01:43PM | 0 recs
Aw, come on

I got yelled at too.  Here and at Kos.  So many times I've forgotten the worst of it.

there was alot going on at the time -- young folks on their first foray into politics all fired up with the passionate single-mindedness of caring that much about something, so much so they said some pretty dumb stuff at times.  I remember being that fired up, once upon a time.
And there were Hillary Haters of all ages who just couldn't tolerate a decent thing said about her.  And there were certainly trolls, determined to stir whatever pot they could find.

In the grand scheme of things, so what.  So a bunch of folks denied sexism existed no matter how much it was explained to them.  Now many of them do...that's a GOOD thing. IT wouldn't be the first or the last time feminist fighters were screaming in the wilderness for someone to listen to them -- it sort of goes with the territory.

I think it's awesome that so many new people are getting on board with this look at sexism in the media. So, they refused to see it with Hillary but they suddenly can now see it with Michelle.  All well and good, as long as they SEE IT.  Maybe it will always take someone you admire or identify with getting screwed for people to see discrimination.  This shouldn't surprise us old dogs either.

by grassrootsorganizer 2008-06-27 02:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

Could you give me a list of female presidents?

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 02:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

Hey I'm easy. How about female vice presidents.

Who was the last female to run for president or Vice president in the General Election?

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 02:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

Here's a hint if folks reading it don't know.

She got stomped on during the primaries this year. Treated like a senile old has been. Run out on a rail. She was a Democrat and a feminist.


by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 03:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

Venician? o you mean  ... nevermind i saw the word senile.  

maybe we should ask ms ferraro her opinion?

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-27 03:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

alive and kicking

I hear on this post that you are a bad influence and a republican troll trouble maker.

I hear,again from reading on this thread, that you have alias.

What say you?

This isn't Jeopardy.

Could you list for me the names of the female presidents and vice presidents up to this General Election. (LOL)

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 03:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

I have an alias its called counting sheep one at a time...

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-27 04:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

Alive and kicking

do you and veni have a comedy routine or is your name Mary as in Mary had a...

You haven't answered my question either.


by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 06:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

last one was mosley to run for president before hillary .
the only vp candidate was geraldine ferrao who i hinted at before

and venician plays both roles of mary and the lamb. :). he folows his one theme wonder one line comments over and over again...

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-27 06:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on


You two would make two good characters written by the same author.

Or maybe two friends "wrasslin'" their way up and down the same political hills. :D

Not Abbott and Costello though. They tend to keep to their own architypes where Mary stays merry and the sheep stay sheep.

No matter which, you two are highly entertaining. So I will watch you with caution. Tell truth I've just been accused of being a troll myself. Almost as bad as the time I was called an alter ego of another poster (another board) also not true. Guess I should be happy. At least here on this board I've been promoted to living human being. There too I simply disagreed. Not the definition of a troll by the way.

I'm just some wayfaring stranger (with crap grammar and spelling skills)  travelling through this world of woe.

Plus I get a might bit aggrivated at getting yelled at for asking a question. And when foul weather and such wrecks my plans. I get, in a nice way, testy. :D

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-28 11:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

Look, I've been along for the whole ride as a strong Clinton supporter and defender.  I've been outraged,  insulted, felt disenfranchised and screwed over.  And I'll go one better for you, I happen to live in MICHIGAN.

I appreciate ANY examination of sexism in the media or anywhere else and I'm grateful for it no matter who or what drew public attention to it.  I've been yelping about sexism directed at Clinton from the start.  Did it cost her the nomination?  Impossible to tell, in my opinion -- te outcome was too close with too many factors at work.  I do know her campaign screwed up early in caucus states and that, if any one thing, cost her the nomination.

Here's what I do know NOW -- women in this country are most effected by the lack of affordable healthcare as they attempt to raise children alone and care for disabled loved ones.  They are the mothers sending their children off to a pointless war (I was one of them) because their sons and daughters couldn't envision another way to afford college or escape the working class.  
Women are working harder and struggling more in a failling economy -- the first to be fired, the last to be hired -- struggling to put themselves through college to better their own lives.

If you are looking for a sexist in this dog race, look no further than John McCain.  IF you are looking for the candidate whose election will do the most to improve the lives of women, look no further than Barack Obama.  

We can sort out what happened to Hillary in the weeks, months and years ahead.  I'm not saying be quiet about it or forget about it, I'm saying appreciate the dialogue she has started and follow her lead.

by grassrootsorganizer 2008-06-27 03:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Aw, come on

I asked you if you could list the names of the female candidates in the General Election. Then I asked for a list of female candidates for vice president.

You haven't answered my questions Grassroots. At least alive and kicking made a stab at it.

Grassroots. Do you know the definition of calculating?

I'll use it in a sentence.

"Grassroots. Quit yer spinning  or I'll begin to agree with the folks who think this whole thing is one cold, calculating try at getting Sen. Clinton's supporters to hush up and write a check."

That help.

Bless your heart, Grassroots, I want to be helpful.

In the interest of Unity. :D

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 03:46PM | 0 recs
Thank you, media still FAILS!

Michelle on Hillary Clinton: " I think that Hillary Clinton, as she said, has made 18 million cracks on the ceiling and we need to keep pushing it and pushing it. She's taken [the hits] so that when my girls come along they won't have to fight it as badly."

And I hadn't heard about this. What a powerful statement! Good going, Michelle -- a bit of Hillary praise is a great way to fully win me to your side.

by sricki 2008-06-26 07:39PM | 0 recs
hopefully its sooner than...

when the obama girls are adults thought!

by canadian gal 2008-06-26 07:47PM | 0 recs
Re: hopefully its sooner than...

sadly I think it will take 20-30 more years. lots of grandpa's and grandma's need to pass away so their lingering influence wanes and lots of guys need to grow-up with equality in the forefront. it took about that long for another AA candidate to be taken seriously (Alan Keyes was never taken seriously). But the prime, the focal, the supreme irony in this GE is that the "Party of Lincoln" could never field a serious AA for prez and in fact turns instantly into a racist side-show...

by zerosumgame 2008-06-26 08:00PM | 0 recs
Re: hopefully its sooner than...

or for that matter a serious female candidate, but they have never been to shy about their disdain of women.

by zerosumgame 2008-06-26 08:07PM | 0 recs
Why is it that...

...truly nasty, horrible things have to happen before we, as a species, decide to fix a problem?  It strikes me that the rise in the divorce rate since about 1955, which created alot of single parents, also wound up insuring alot of boys were raised by single moms. They got a first-hand lesson, and acquired an early respect, for female equality. I agree that there were alot of negative social effects of the decline of the "married-for-life, like it or not" nuclear family, but for my part I never thought of women as being "second class". I suppose my (single) mom helped out there, but these last few months have been really confusing, media-wise. Why does a woman being strong, capable, and independent make me less of a man?? Was every guy over 50 raised like that?  I have my differences with Hillary, but they have fuck-all to do with her gender. I'm grateful to her, and Michelle, and Rachel, and hell, even Madonna for getting this ancient cultural relic into the light of day...

by Kordo 2008-06-26 10:28PM | 0 recs
interesting comment.

steinhem has a theory.

by canadian gal 2008-06-26 11:04PM | 0 recs
Re: interesting comment.

  Over the years, I've disagreed with Steinhem on a number of points, but it's always interesting to hear her point of veiw. Cgal, do you think she's right, is there still a built-in bias against females, particularly in leadership roles, here in the US? Being a guy, my perspective is probably skewed on this matter. I've been asking a version of this question with some of my black friends, and I usually get a polite form of "gee, do ya think, white boy?". Leadership/Authority is, at heart, a form of dominance, at least as currently practiced. The females I've seen/read about rising to leadership positions (Elizabeth, Catherine the Great, Thatcher) seem to have had to balance the masculine & feminine styles, if you will. I'm encouraged by the number of strong women characters showing up in Art, and Media (movies- the Alien series - Ripley; The Matrix - Trinity; Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, tho it could be argued that wasn't an American film, I think the impact and acceptance it received here was a good sign) Hillary stands out in this area, but there a number of females in executive political positions who seem to be making strides. My hometown (Tampa, FL) has a female mayor, Pam Iorio, who's on her second term, and she's not exactly a wilting flower. Maybe it's just a generational thing, like the poster above said, and all the old-timers will just hafta die off, or drift out of power.

by Kordo 2008-06-27 02:31AM | 0 recs
Re: interesting comment.

Sorry if this comes off as harsh because you seem so sincere but...you have got to be f%cking kidding me.  "is there stil a built-n bias against females, particularly in leadership roles, here in the US?"  That's a question?!

Look at any governing body out there, group together any leadership position and run the stats -- show me where anywhere, in any capacity, women hold anything close to 51% of the leadership roles in this country -- in government, business, academia, healthcare, religious organizations?  ANYWHERE.  (setting aside the single parent kitchen tables for the moment)

Incidentally, our culture accepts the lone female in power, accepts the female boss or cabinet official as "okay".  But what kind of culture shock would we suffer if somehow we woke up on a Wednesday in November to a 51% female Congress?  Oh, the howling we'd hear from suddenly "disenfranchised" and "underrepresented" men fearing for their jobs, their country's strength and their own gonads.  

Already we are hearing the blubbering about needing a white male on the Obama ticket so white men will have someone to "identify" with.  For fifty years I've been expected to naturally see a man as my "leader" on the job, in church, of my government.  Yet we still are forced to debate if a woman can "lead" effectively, consider how men will "adapt" to female leadership, argue that 10% representation of 51% of us is somehow great "progress".

No one expects a male leader to demonstrate any "balance" of "masculine and feminine styles".  Yes, strides are being made.  It's just plain ridiculous and an embarrassment to us all that women are still striding.  

by grassrootsorganizer 2008-06-27 03:02AM | 0 recs
Re: interesting comment.

 Hehe, no need to apologize, I prefer people to speak their minds. One of the nicer things about MyDD is that people don't feel the need to sugercoat honest opinions. A couple of good points here-

 "No one expects a male leader to demonstrate any "balance" of "masculine and feminine styles".
I hadn't really considered that angle. Looking back at it, that is a double standard on my part. Ideally, women shouldn't have to be anyone, or anything, other than themselves in order to be seen as "Leaders", but humans are not ideal creatures. Speaking for myself, I detest the whole swingin' dick, Alpha-male style of management, whether it's coming from a girl or a guy, but I recognize that some executive jobs aren't suited to compassion and compromise. I tend to think the best leaders are the ones who do blend both styles, whether they are male or female. Sometimes you need to listen with open-minded compassion, and sometimes you have to knock heads together.

I think Gloria Steinem (in the video above) has a good point about the source of the resistance to to the IDEA of women in power on a large scale, resistance from women and men. Maybe it is too easy to hear your mom's voice when a powerful woman speaks, thought that can't be all of it. And I know alot of guys have an unreasonable fear of women in power, which seems to be tied into their own sexual self-image in some weird way. Also, and I hafta point this out, women could really do more to back each other up. I hate to use the term catty, but when it comes to tearing down other females, sometimes girls are frakkin' nasty. I hate to generalize (he says, right before he generalizes) but often, though certainly not always, even males who detest one another will cooperate in pursuit of common goals, or against a perceived common enemy. Women, in my limited observation of such things, seem to be more apt to undercut one another, to break ranks as it were. A limited observation, as I said, but  females DO comprise 51% of the world's population. If they all agreed to pull together, there wouldn't be a damn thing guys could do to stop them. Hell, if they all agreed to cut us off from the nookie for 30 days, they'd rule the world inside of a week (not that I'm reccomending that, mind you; 49% of the world's population begging and blubbering like children would be a sorry spectacle)

Grassroots, have you ever read "The White Plague" by Frank Herbert? I'd be interested to hear your opinion of that book.

by Kordo 2008-06-27 04:59AM | 0 recs
Re: interesting comment.

Never heard of the book.  I'll check it out.

Amen on women being their own worst enemies, I think for a complex of reasons.  The most blatantly sexist comment I heard during the primaries came out of the mouth of a female co-worker who said she didn't "believe" in female leaders, that it wasn't "as God intended it to be."

Still, Gloria said it best -- we have all been programmed to see women through a sexist lense and judge them accordingly. The "rules" of leadership, and our expectations, were shaped around a suit and a tie.  

And I do believe your "nookie" reference cuts to the core of it all -- the angst surrounding sex, judgement by the opposite sex and mamma/daddy drama makes sexism the "ism" most difficult to explore rationally.  

Long ago we agreed that skin color was irrelevant but we are still trying to unpack gender differences.  

by grassrootsorganizer 2008-06-27 05:14AM | 0 recs
Re: interesting comment.

Well I can go back and reference the folks who said, on this site, that sexism did not exist in the primaries. No problemo. After you get yelled at enough for being an old cranky feminist by someone who has no clue who Carol M Braun is. Pffss Naw ya'll talk a good game but I just think this is--we'll it stinks.

Sexism exists. Big time. But this is just about that Unity thing. It's just what is the word. Not cynical. Calculated. That's the word. Calculated. By allowing the sexism that did exist to go on during the primaries. By saying it didn't exist. By not calling it out?

Well if you had done the fair thing. T'wouldn't be a problem now. Chickens have come home to roost I'd say.

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 01:51PM | 0 recs

and its not limited to the US.  women are highly underrepresented in most fields.  what makes the US political system more problematic is the system.  for example - canada has had a female prime minister, but we have a parliamentary system whereby, one is not literally casting a singular vote for a woman leader.

by canadian gal 2008-06-27 06:40AM | 0 recs
This may be controversial

But I think it's probably significant to examine how sexism plays out in different cultures. Gloria commented on how female authority only accepted in childhood, and as a black man I'm not sure I agree. I'm also not sure Hispanic female authority wanes in the same fashion it does for mainstream culture.

I'm 46, and there are women in my life who wield the rule of law, and I'm quite comfortable with that. I grew up on it.

In fact, that may be part of the reason black women are painted as "angry"...I mean "strong". Perhaps they are accustomed to authority?

by Neef 2008-06-27 04:54AM | 0 recs
Re: This may be controversial

   Now, that is an interesting point. I'd like to see some serious scholarly work on the differences between Black/Latino/Anglo childrearing & authority. anyone know of a good resource for that? It always makes me laugh when I hear some middle-class white person get freaked out about "angry" black people, as though the last couple of centuries were just some unfortunate unpleasantness, and we should all just be happy, and play nice now that it's behind us. What could a black person POSSIBLY have to be angry about these days, right?

by Kordo 2008-06-27 05:11AM | 0 recs
I hope I didn't imply

That I really thought than "anger" was necessarily that, I was mostly being snarky there. It may be more that the "I'm the boss" attitude is perceived as anger by those who aren't used to a particular sort of person being the boss?

Sort of how men are seen as "strong" and equivalent women are seen as "bitchy".

by Neef 2008-06-27 05:57AM | 0 recs
Shakin head

Shaking head.

"...typical white woman..."

That's how Sen. Obama described his grandmother.

Neef. What is a sterotype? What is a bias? What is the difference between a sterotype and a bias? Are there acceptable/unacceptable sterotypes? Is there a difference when it comes to bias?

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 03:25PM | 0 recs
hhm.. interesting.

yes i would say that cultural differences do play a factor.  

but i would disagree that save for a few countries in latin america, there is no equal representation in african or latin countries.

by canadian gal 2008-06-27 06:44AM | 0 recs
Good point about representation n/t

by Neef 2008-06-27 07:41AM | 0 recs
Re: interesting comment.

Wonderful Steinem clip CG. How humane, wise and optimistic was that! She's gone up oodles in my estimation, and I'm now feeling much more positive about the outcome for positive progressive moves in race and gender after these primaries

Steinem is dead right that Obama should keep on addressing the issue of sexism whenever he speaks.

by duende 2008-06-27 08:11AM | 0 recs
thank you brit.

and i wholeheartedly agree with your comment.

by canadian gal 2008-06-27 11:30AM | 0 recs
Re: interesting comment.

Sen. Obama should continue to talk about sexism.

You want him to loose?

How are things in England?  

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 03:19PM | 0 recs
single moms aren't to blame

many families throughout history were raised by only one parent. Particularly during wars (check out the Roman Empire. they didn't come home...).

Let alone down south, where rich southern women were generally raised by a House Negress. ;-)

by RisingTide 2008-06-27 07:32AM | 0 recs
Re: single moms aren't to blame

well, I did grow-up in large part in Texas with my grandmother and great-grandmother and while we did not have a House Nigress they did have Beaula who came in the morning and made sure I had my lunch for school, mended my bruises and cuts and told me some of the most amazing stories about New Oleans when she was growing up. She in fact is why I never used the word n*** after about the 1st grade. That was when I sort of got an idea of what it really meant. And when I asked her if she was one, well no matter what words she said the look in her eyes is still burned into my memory all these years later...'

Damm, no idea where all that came from, sorry for derailing the thread :)

by zerosumgame 2008-06-27 08:56AM | 0 recs
Re: single moms aren't to blame

Oh mercy. A house what?

Born and raised here in the DEEEP South. Ya'll have it fine. High cotton. We had a mom, who in addition to holding down a full time job, raised us and took care of our bruises. Are ya'll serious. Or is this just making fun of the South again. Dealing in sterotypes. Look, I really was raised in the South and trust me what you are saying and the way you are saying it looks affected. You're reading like some "bodice ripper" derivative romance novel ripoff of "Gone With the Wind". Just so those folks who aren't raised here should know, that southern, sugar coated accent and "plantation lifestyle of the wanna be rich and famous" I'm reading? Folks only a small percent of the population talks like that or did. Tell truth, I haven't heard an accent like old Scarlets in forever. I think that maybe I am related to someone who had an old maid English teacher in the 60's who may have "tawked" like that. But you want to pizz off these folks who are the "southern ladies who lunch" and you just try using  that "tone of voice Missy" and see. I remember a commercial on television for air conditioners in which they had those Garden or Bridge club ladies who lunch on a commercial. They had it taken off the air. They had a fit about it. No kidding.

Most folks talk a variation of "country" than they are a "Faulkner" or "Williams" accent. The accent is "soft". LOL next thing I know you'll be taking about "sittin on the front porch drinkin juleps and strummin on the old banjo". Heck. Somebody cue Stephen Foster.

I love Katherine Hepburn as an actress but even she got it wrong in the movie "Suddenly Last Summer". The movie with Elizabeth Taylor? And don't even get me started about "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" Elizabeth Taylor Version or "A Street Car Named Desire". Blanche? Are you kidding.

Sorry. Like a Jack Kerouac of the Deep South, I keep looking for your sterotype and well--

Only in the movies folks.  



by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 02:25PM | 0 recs
Re: single moms aren't to blame

well a big Texas fuck off to you for calling me a liar. I was born in Ft Worth and also lived in Shreveport and Jacksonville Fl. and yeah that was my fucking life you just mocked you loser. get a pry-bar and pull your head out of your ass one of these days.

by zerosumgame 2008-06-27 03:49PM | 0 recs
Re: hopefully its sooner than...

Unfortunately, this campaign season proved that chauvinism is not restricted to grandmas and grandpas. We were subjected to plenty of 30, 40 and 50 year olds engaging in sexist behavior. Waiting for everyone to die is not the answer. We all need to take an active part in eliminating discrimination now.

by LakersFan 2008-06-27 08:47AM | 0 recs
Exactly right

As bad as the middle aged white guys on TV were, the worst and most vulgar sexism showed up in the "new media."  Vulgar references to female anatomy where ubiquitous on the progressive blogs.  When challenged, the perpetrators argued that we are in a "post feminist" age.  Unfortunately, post-feminism turned out to be a lot like pre-feminism.

by dbrown04 2008-06-27 01:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Exactly right

and alas, some young women were also doing the pre-feminism crap.

by colebiancardi 2008-06-27 03:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you, media still FAILS!

sricki, their is a new McTroll running around here with a name almost identical to yours. We think it's aliveand kicking, duende spotted it.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/27/1429 29/458

by venician 2008-06-27 11:36AM | 0 recs
Thanks, but I already know.

I discovered him on another thread. I still think it's rankles, though. Could be aliveandkickin, but my gut says it's rankles -- we have a longer (and far rougher) history together.

by sricki 2008-06-27 11:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you, media still FAILS!

sricki, their is a new McTroll running around here with a name almost identical to yours. We think it's aliveand kicking, duende spotted it.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/27/1429 29/458

by venician 2008-06-27 11:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you, media still FAILS!

"a bit of Hillary praise is a great way to fully win me to your side."

Make those checks out to.

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 03:08PM | 0 recs

i'm impressed with cindy mccain (weird).  this whole "catfight" meme that the media has been trying to create has seriously gotten on my last nerve.  it's disgusting.

your diaries on sexism (well, your diaries in general) are remarkably good.  thank you.

tipped and rec'd.

by elie 2008-06-26 07:42PM | 0 recs

and i have rather enjoyed your comments here as well.

by canadian gal 2008-06-26 07:44PM | 0 recs
Re: wow

I'm not a big fan of Cindy McCain, as I have written about in the past.  Well actually to be careful, I am a big fan of Cindy McCain, but not the actions she has taken in the campaign so far.

I think the point of this journal may be getting missed by many commentators upstream: It's not that there is sexism in our culture (although there is) it's that the media is more sexist than the general culture at large.  Two examples:

First is the Michelle O "really proud" comments.  Why must a candidate for first-lady be held to a higher level of patriotism in the media than their husbands.  The answer is, they're not by the general public but are by the media.  

Michelle Obama has ridiculous favorable-unnfavorable numbers.  There's no makeover at play; she's more popular than her husband, and the reason that she is being pushed front and center is not an attempt to salvage her reputation but the fact that she is kicking ass.  Indeed, I think she hit on some current that attracts independents with her "proud" remarks.  I noticed as soon as her recent polling came out, McCain made comments at four campaign events that he's had moments where he's not been proud of his country.  (And this goes back to why I'm not a big fan of Cindy McCain during this election cycle, she was the first person, bar none, to jump on Michelle O and push the meme -- and she, in my mind, got deservedly beat down because of it.  Her favorable-unfavorables are horrible and I think she has only herself to blame -- It's not just men pushing sexist memes.)

The second place where I see a great deal of misguided coverage amongst are two candidates for first lady is the covering of Cindy McCain's drug background.  Why is it okay for our Presidential candidates to have used drugs but it's not okay for our first lady's to have had issues from which they recovered?  I have to imagine that the general public doesn't care about Cindy McCain's slip-ups many years ago, but there they are, on the news much more often than Barack Obama or George Bush's history.

by such sweet thunder 2008-06-27 08:39AM | 0 recs
Re: wow

Then why isn't she running for office instead of promoting her husband? That would be Michelle Obama.

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 02:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama & Sexism in the Media.

media should be slammed HARD.. i hope atleast now.. netroots which ignored sexism against hillary wake up, and push back hard against sexist media.. michelle obama is a fine lady who has worked hard her whole life to get to where she is. she deserves more respect than what media is giving her.. assholes..

by gladiatorsback 2008-06-26 07:45PM | 0 recs
well put.

they are assholes.  its just amazing what people got away with these past months.

by canadian gal 2008-06-26 07:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Sexism in the Media. Really?

So did Sen. Clinton.

I'm curious what your experience wss when you expressed your outrage at the sexism towards Sen. Clinton during the primaries? If I mentioned it, I was told in no uncertain terms that sexism didn't exist.


Was told that it was just a ruse ginned up by Sen. Clinton and her camp to cause trouble for Sen. Obama.

I blogged on this by the way.


by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 02:38PM | 0 recs
Sexism on Olbermann pissed me OFF

Olbermann and some goof that talks Hollywood were discussing Basic Instinct sequel starring Sharon Stone - and the possibility of another crotch shot.

Now .... folks, this ain't "news" in my book, but ....

The two guys giggled and twittered and made remarks about how disgusting it would be to see a 40 year old vagina.  Yep, that's what was said.

Again .... folks, this ain't "news", newsworthy.  I just can't picture Walter Cronkite or Chet Huntley/David Brinkley discussing this particular matter!

But .... do I think that I will EVER hear how disgusting it would be to see a 40 year old penis?  Ooooh, no, people wouldn't/shouldn't ever talk about a man's part - might hurt his wittle feelings, wound his wittle ego.  But the woman is fair game.  

So, my take is that once again, these statements show that these men and their like are not near as tough and strong as women like Hillary and Michelle!

by Southern Mouth 2008-06-26 07:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Sexism on Olbermann pissed me OFF

not sure if i agree with the tonality of your remark.  but certainly on olbermann.

it always blows my mind when 'progressives' stand up for a
guy that has a history of inappropriate comments about women, including this:

by canadian gal 2008-06-26 08:34PM | 0 recs
oh and note the byline.

by canadian gal 2008-06-26 08:45PM | 0 recs
Re: oh and note the byline.

Holy shit.  I can't believe they would put that there.  Very disappointing.

by semiquaver 2008-06-27 02:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Sexism on Olbermann pissed me OFF

"But .... do I think that I will EVER hear how disgusting it would be to see a 40 year old penis?"

Not to take away from your larger point, but there's a lot of anti-penis sentiment in the media.  It's not old penises in particular; it's all penises.  A combination of latent homophobia with a "men's bodies can't be beautiful" aesthetic leads to instance after instance of "Ewww, I almost saw his junk!" and "Aw, jeez, man, don't bend over, noooo!" People are disgusted by seeing naked men, especially if they're slightly unfit, and have no compunction about sharing that. It's a problem.

by jere7my 2008-06-27 08:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama & Sexism in the Media.

Your diaries on sexism are always good reading.  Thanks for taking the time to write these pieces!

by thatpurplestuff 2008-06-26 09:41PM | 0 recs
Great diary!

It was inevitable they'd go after Michelle.  Why are strong women so intimidating?

by psychodrew 2008-06-27 12:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Obama & Sexism in the Media.

touche, canadian gal, touche.

by alyssa chaos 2008-06-27 12:46AM | 0 recs
Watch out, CG !!!
If you complain about sexism in the media (ala Ms Couric), you could end up "today's worst person in the world"!
Seriously, congrats - - during the primary, some forgot we're all supposed to be against sexism, not only "sexism, depending on whether it helps or hinders folks we like".
by kosnomore 2008-06-27 09:34AM | 0 recs
This is why it should have been addressed

When Clinton was running, not used against her as it was. Why would anyone want to side with a party that used the way a person is born as a way to defeat them? The misogynist chickens are going to come home to roost. You lay down with the dogs, you can expect to get fleas.

I have blown off both political parties. They are NOT good for women. It's the Greens and McKinney for me now. The Dems have lost this person that supported them for over 30 years.

by splashy 2008-06-27 12:07PM | 0 recs
Re: This is why it should have been addressed


I agree that " the chickens have come home to roost".

But no fleas on my dogs.


by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-06-27 03:04PM | 0 recs


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