A Few Honest Questions

For the first time in my life I got in to an argument with my grandmother!  About Barack Obama.  Geez.  She implored me to seek the answers to my remaining questions as she found it outrageous that I find him less than appealing (to put it nicely).  She nearly hung up the phone on me when I suggested I'd rather vote for myself (as a write-in) than vote for him.  LOL.  So, I ask:

   * What has Barack Obama accomplished?
    * At what cost will he seek "unity"?
    * "Unity" towards what end?  For what is he willing to risk "unity"?
    * "Hope" for what end?
    * "Change" from what to what?
    * Does he honestly believe Republicans are honest partners?
    * How can I trust him to fight for progressive values if he is unwilling to fight for universal healthcare?

See, at this point, my disdain is growing.  I just don't get him. I find him terribly arrogant.  I'm not moved by the speeches.  I don't want to play nice with Republicans.  What's more I think that the entire notion of playing nice with Republicans is naive and silly.  Gov. Patrick of MA made the exact same claims of 'hope' and 'change' and 'unity' and he is already a failure.  I'm not willing to make a faith-based decision so give me some meat, please.


Tags: obama, Reality (all tags)



Re: A Few Honest Questions

I'm just trying to get one of them to give me some answers.  LOL.  It has been very difficult to get anything beyond the happy talk. :-)

by BRockNYC 2008-02-18 06:24PM | 0 recs
Come November

I'm voting for whatever Dem. is on the ballot.  

They're all professional liars.  They all shower you with empty promises.  They all distort the truth.  They all try to tear their opponent(s) down.  It's the name of the game.  

by venavena 2008-02-18 06:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Come November

Why did cameoanne troll rate my post?

by venavena 2008-02-19 02:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Gee, I dunno

The problem is that people shouldn't have to google Obama's plans. He's supposed to discuss them at his rallies. Unfortunately he doesn't.

by HillaryKnight08 2008-02-18 06:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Really?

No. It's understood.

by HillaryKnight08 2008-02-18 06:40PM | 0 recs
Re: A Few Honest Questions

Here's a good compreshensive case for Obama.

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_ wings/2008/02/obama-actually.html

Here are some other links--more issue oriented--that worth a visit.

http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/a rchives/2007/11/team_obama_1.php

http://sentineleffect.wordpress.com/2007 11/28/even-more-on-mandates-and-the-80- solution

And, here are some links that relate more to Obama's philosophy and political character.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?i d=8200e5c2-a250-4532-b318-6182083b698e

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/30/ 102745/165

If I thought for second that I might actually persuade you, then I'd spend a little time make my own case for his candidacy. However, I just don't get that feeling from your diary.

by DPW 2008-02-18 06:41PM | 0 recs
Re: A Few Honest Questions

Oh, and how can I forget Obama's 64-page policy document, "Blueprint for Change."

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlue printForChange.pdf

by DPW 2008-02-18 06:43PM | 0 recs
Don't get me wrong

I'm not uninformed about him.  I know a great deal about him and I think he would be a good president, but not now. The hope and unity talk off-putting to me.  So, when he goes off in those riffs he totally loses me.  I'm left thinking, "what is he talking about"?

by BRockNYC 2008-02-18 06:48PM | 0 recs
"what is he talking about"?
Making the causes he and the Democratic congress push forward popular enough with the people that Mitch McConnell and his dwindling but still filibuster-level minority can't deflect the will of the people without any effort.
A popular, eloquent president can be very effective in persuading the public that the opposition party is wrong and putting its own interests before the country's. You know, like that Clinton fella did, before Clintons decided that eloquence and charisma were useless attributes for a president.
I have no illusions about Obama's magical powers, I just think his skills are better suited to the presidency than Clinton's technocratia.
by BlueinColorado 2008-02-18 07:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Gee, I dunno

Plans are meaningless without the courage and ability to fight for them.

How is he going to get there?  Where is he willing to settle?  compromise?

Unity has a price.  What is his price?

by BRockNYC 2008-02-18 06:41PM | 0 recs
Call her back and tell her to go pound sand.

The nerve!

by Bob Johnson 2008-02-18 07:25PM | 0 recs
Voter Registration

Forgive me for writing an answer longer than your diary.

Want to know what did it for me?  Reading this (keep in mind this article was written in 1993 back when Obama was just 31).  I found it myself as I was looking at Obama and Clinton once Edwards had dropped out of the race.  

I was torn, at the time, because neither HRC or BHO are anywhere near as far to the left as me.  (That said, I DO have issues left over from Bill Clinton's selling out of the American underclass via his "welfare reform" that basically cut the safety net from under women and children.  But I was, at that point, trying not to hold it against HRC.)

I've cut it up a bit, but quoted the parts that made an impact on me.  

In the final, climactic buildup to November's general election, with George Bush gaining ground on Bill Clinton in Illinois and the once-unstoppable campaign of senatorial candidate Carol Moseley Braun embroiled in allegations about her mother's Medicare liability, one of the most important local stories managed to go virtually unreported: The number of new voter registrations before the election hit an all-time high. And the majority of those new voters were black. More than 150,000 new African-American voters were added to the city's rolls. In fact, for the first time in Chicago's history-including the heyday of Harold Washington-voter registrations in the 19 predominantly black wards outnumbered those in the city's 19 predominantly white ethnic wards, 676,000 to 526,000.

The election, to some degree, turned on these totals: Braun and Clinton had almost unanimous support among blacks. But just as important, if less obvious, are the implications black votership could have for future city and state elections: For the first time in ten years, more than half a million blacks went to the polls in Chicago.  [...]

None of this, of course, was accidental. The most effective minority voter registration drive in memory was the result of careful handiwork by Project Vote!, the local chapter of a not-for-profit national organization.  [...]

At the head of this effort was a little-known 31-year-old African-American lawyer, community organizer, and writer: Barack Obama.  

[...]By 1991, when Obama, law degree in hand, returned to Chicago to work on a book about race relations-having turned his back on the Supreme Court clerkship that is almost a given for the law review's top editor-black voter registration and turnout in the city were at their lowest points since record keeping began.

Six months after he took the helm of Chicago's Project Vote!, those conditions had been reversed.

[...] Within a few months, Obama, a tall, affable workaholic, had recruited staff and volunteers from black churches, community groups, and politicians. He helped train 700 deputy registrars, out of a total of 11,000 citywide. And he began a saturation media campaign with the help of black-owned Brainstorm Communications.  [...]

"It was overwhelming," says Joseph Gardner, a commissioner of the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District and the director of the steering committee for Project Vote! "The black community in this city had not been so energized and so single-minded since Harold [Washington] died."

Burrell agrees. "We were registering hundreds a day, and we weren't having to search them out. They came looking for us. African Americans were just so eager to have a say again, to feel they counted."

I then called a friend who'd been part of the Project Vote campaign in another state and asked -- she told me she'd never seen anyone with Barack's work ethic or rock solid belief in democracy -- in the power we the people hold when we vote.  This meshed for me with what I felt coming away from Howard Dean -- that every vote matters and that we, as a party, need to be present in every state.

I wouldn't have a problem voting for Clinton.  But I believe if we nominate Barack Obama we will win by a large margin.  Because his campaign resembles (to me) the most effective voter registration and GOTV movement I've ever seen.

That could no only re take the White House this year, but for the next two decades.  

I also think Barack's position on the war, the fact he didn't vote for authorization puts him in a stronger position to oppose McCain.  

by mijita 2008-02-18 07:41PM | 0 recs
Re: A Few Honest Questions

Amen! ... and, yes, Women Should Rule.  Thanks for posting.  I'll be voting for Hillary for the reasons you cited.

by cameoanne 2008-02-18 09:08PM | 0 recs


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