Assaulted: True Experience

I don't even know where to begin cause over the course of the primary I've become a very active member here, but I've avoided the blogs this weekend, not because of the sadness of Hillary's concession (something on which I ordinarily would have been enthused to share an opinion) but because of a really bizarre and unforeseeable event.

On Friday night, I was out at one of the local GLBT bars and an acquaintance I recognized was very intoxicated.  After the bar closed, it's customary for people to hang out in front for a while and I stayed there and kept an eye on this guy to make sure he, as he promised, walked to the nearby convenience store, got food, and waited a while before driving home.  

After most of the people left, I was still socializing.  It had been a while since I'd gone out to that place so I saw a lot of people I hadn't seen in months.  One person was a friend of an acquaintance I had never met before who was upset about a bad relationship and needed an ear.  So I listened.  

We sat/crouched down in front of the bar and he explained in greater detail how his partner was taking him for granted, being distant & evasive, and basically everything one would expect to hear in a standard country song, minus of course the same sex status.  

I was wearing a Hillary for President 2008 T-Shirt and jeans.  

After 15 minutes, a man approached, someone I had never seen before.  He was gay, a bit high-strung, appeared to be either part African-American, Latino, or Mediterrean, and looked to be approx. 25 years of age, which would be a few years younger than me.  The first thing he said was, "look at the two of you getting close there, disgusting."

Not being accustomed to swallowing random insults from strangers, I replied,

"Well, you don't have to stay here if we're bothering you that much."

He sat down directly accross from me and started raining down insults and threats, which initially seemed more like a harmless repartee than something sinister.  But his insults soon took on a new form beginning with,

"Look at you.  You're so ugly.  With your big eyes and that pale skin.  One of those ugly pale-skinned blue eyed trolls.  Ugly."

(FYI I don't consider myself ugly)

"Huh?"

"Pale skinned big eyed troll," he repeated.

It seemed he was trying to bruise my ego.  I got more defensive than offensive.  I said, "I don't really mind having a Northern European look, most of the guys I date seem to rather like it."

He countered, "Oh hell no.  Ethnic is what's in.  I have the ethnic look.  You are not fashionable.  In fact, you are no one in this gay world.  Look at you with that pale skin, those brown shoes and black socks."

I said I didn't mind not fitting in with the gay scene, and he went a bit further, now saying I was a "thin lipped pale skinned blue eyed troll.  Ugly." (I think he had said ugly over a dozen times in 5 minutes).

He reiterated his claim that he was more "fashionable" because he had an ethnic look and that no guy would ever want me.  I didn't know what to think cause it felt like I was getting some random critique on my appearance from RuPaul.  

He said he wanted to fight and I said no, b/c of my profession.  I told him if he hit me, I'd press charges & sue him.  He laughed and called me a "pussy" several times.  

Then he said, "tell me.  Where are you from?"

I answered, "from here originally (Pennsylvania)."

"Well I lived in Charlotte, North Carolina where I met and made friends with many African Americans, Latino Americans, and Asians," he said proudly.  

"Ok, that's good," I shrugged.  If he was trying to compare egalitarian "creds," I could have gone off on a litany of civil rights work & volunteer work I've done for minority communities, but I figured, "what's the point." The relevance and timing of his statement were lost on me.  But that statement is pretty much verbatim.  I am really glad there were multiple witnesses there because his words were so bizarre (we think he may have been on something) that they didn't make sense, being part pseudo-intellectual and part... aimless?

"Have you ever been to Charlotte?" he asked.

"Yes."

"Where?"

"The airport."

"Pfft."

I thought the hostility died down and there was little interaction with him for the next two or three minutes and then he stood up.  I was still sitting crouched on the ground.  He said,

"Stand up."

"No."

"Stand up."

"Why?"

"Just stand up, pussy."

"No.  I'm not getting in a fight here."

"Pussy."

He was silent for about 30 seconds.  I was sitting across from two other people crouched, with a cigarette in my left hand and my glasses in my right hand.

Suddenly, and without warning, from above, ke kicked me in the head four times and then lunged at me with punches.  I instinctively moved my glasses behind me and stood up and fended him off, and two people around intervened to restrain him.  I called 911.  He fled the scene.  I got dizzy and almost fell back into the wall when the police were asking me questions.  Someone caught me and kept me afloat. I went to the ER.  I gave a statement to the police and they asked if I wanted to press charges and I said "yes."

Later that night, this guy logged into a local gay chat room and bragged about having "kicked the shit out of [me]" and referred to me as a "faggot." I have a copy of the transcript.        

I have had a history of experience with migraines and have always been particularly sensitive to head-trauma.  My head has been feeling odd and hurting for most of the weekend.  I sincerely hope it goes away.  

My mom, bless her heart, said, "You have to be careful these days with that Hillary shirt anymore."

I'm in contact with the police and I see there's a basis for a hate crimes charge, potentially both on race and on sexual orientation.  

The reactions to what happened that night have been a mix of awe and outrage.  I'm aware that if charges are filed this has potential to be a local news typhoon: Anti-White Hate Crime against Man in Hillary Shirt and frankly don't know what I would do.  But having heard from many people, it seems what happened to me has intensified high passions and rawness about the racial tension the primary has engendered.  It's really bad on the ground here, and that's an understatement.  I'd gotten a few snide comments about my Hillary shirt in convenience stores, etc. but nothing this intense until Friday.  

Since we have a close-knit community here at MyDD, I wanted to share the experience, and it's also relevant to a lot of what we've been going through.  I have mixed feelings and have a lot of things to continue thinking through.  If more develops, I'll keep the community posted as much as I can.  

Thanks for reading.  

Update [2008-6-9 16:40:25 by BPK80]: I did not say my campaign T-Shirt was the sole determinative basis for the attack. It is relevant as one of many factors and as a practical matter that it taken as a whole, if the charges go really public, it's going to be a factor in public perception in my opinion. There are pictures from that night and the appearances they create are whatever they will be in the beholders' eyes. It's likely to come up in questioning. But the shirt is not the focus of the diary.

Tags: hate crime, Hillary, WHITE (all tags)

Comments

84 Comments

Wow. Glad you're okay, bro.

Some people are just crap.

by Firewall 2008-06-09 11:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Wow. Glad you're okay, bro.

Thanks.  Hey, I remember you posted a Bjork vid in another thread a few days back that got locked or the thread vanished.  I sent you an All Is Full of love vid, but don't know if you got it or responded.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 11:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Wow. Glad you're okay, bro.

Yeah, I liked it. You gave it a somber atmosphere, which worked nicely on the song.

by Firewall 2008-06-09 12:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Wow. Glad you're okay, bro.

Thanks for letting me know; I wasn't sure if the diary got deleted before or after my response went through.  I just know that a little while afterwards, it was suddenly not there.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:21PM | 0 recs
i am *so sorry* that happened to you

and i am grateful that you are here posting, alive and largely intact.

glad you filed the police report.  even better than you got the chat transcript.  and i hope that punk gets the maximum sentence under whatever hate crimes laws are applicable in your area.

by annatopia 2008-06-09 12:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Sounds awful.

I'm not sure what the t-shirt had to do with it, since your transcript didn't mention anything about it.

by politicsmatters 2008-06-09 11:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Assaulter's state of mind.

Thanks for coming to his defense.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 11:58AM | 0 recs
Okay dude

Coming to his defense?  Seriously?  How the hell was that defending anything?

by BishopRook 2008-06-09 12:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Okay dude

I felt the poster was trying to diminish an element of the event that may or may not have had an impact on the assaulter's state of mind.  This poster criticizes me frequently so everyone pardon my knee-jerk defensive response.  I thought she was doing it again.  

Sorry for any raucus caused.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Okay dude

With all due respect, I said that the assault was awful. And it most certainly was. No one deserves that sort of thing.

But I also don't know what your wearing the t-shirt had to do with it since in the "transcript" you posted, there was no mention of it.

by politicsmatters 2008-06-09 12:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Okay dude

Ok.

Perhaps this will help clarify.  It seemed to be an anti-white hate crime.  The T-shirt doesn't make it an anti-Hillary crime.  Rather, the nexus between Hillary support and perceived prejudice supports more anti-white bias on behalf of the attacker.

Really, I'm not looking for (another) fight today.

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Okay dude

It's the question/blame the victim mentality.

by soyousay 2008-06-09 12:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Okay dude

What are you talking about? I in no way blamed him. I just asked what the t-shirt had to do with it since, according to his account, the assaulter said nothing about it.

People get beat up every day by folks who are just world class idiots, often drunk, sometimes not.  He could be anti-white or just an aggressive, psychopathic jerk.

by politicsmatters 2008-06-09 12:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Okay dude

Usually in brawls, there is no constant and incisive mention of the assaultee's race, skin color, and the attacker's "ethnicity."  Comments like that are exactly the bases that an assault legally convert into a hate crime.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Okay dude

Everybody but BPK80 SHUT UP!

I'm really sorry that happened to you; I know getting attacked can be incredibly unsettling.  Just take it easy and know that you have friends and advocates.

by Jess81 2008-06-09 07:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Okay dude

Thanks Jess.  I appreciate the kindness.  

by BPK80 2008-06-10 03:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

oh man.  I am glad you are ok.

what is up with people?  The guy that beat you up has some serious issues with himself, it seems.  He is gay, but calls you a faggot?  what is up with that?  and demeaning you because you are white and now considered a "nobody"?

wow.  seriously.  wow

by colebiancardi 2008-06-09 11:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Yes.

Being of a certain race/gender/orientation doesn't prevent people from discriminating on that basis.  A lot of times in the workplace, when women face discrimination, it is women discriminating against them just as much as men doing it.  Fortunately, the law recognizes that.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

That's a sad but true reality.  And I've seen it especially sharply in the LGBT community.  Not just against different ethnic groups, but pitting the Ls against the Gs against the Bs against the Ts...

Too much hate in the world.

by BishopRook 2008-06-09 12:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Yes, many G & L's are horrible to T's.  Just horrible.  And when they become adamant about how they're so much more "normal" than T's, I get incensed.  

I have a good story about calling people out on their anti-trans bias which I'll share here one day.  It's one of the proudest moments in my life.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

it is a sad fact that everyone seems to need someone else to pick on.  The pecking order, so to speak.

The Boston Globe wrote a wonderful 2 part article a few months back about a male doctor who had a sex change.  They talked about his patients and how many DID stay with her after her sex change.

The comments in the following Globe about this article was good - a lot of people praising the Globe for writing that woman's story.

by colebiancardi 2008-06-09 12:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

What you say is entirely true about pecking order.  It reminds me of junior high.  One would think the two most "unpopular" students in class would become friends by common bond, but instead they seem to attack each other relentlessly to prove who is dead last and who is "better" than the worst one.

I see the same dynamic with the way fellow GLB's pick on transpeople.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

I also see it in the gay community and how segregated we are. Most bars are almost all white and blacks and latinos are relgated to their own bars.

by venician 2008-06-09 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

That is true and reminds me distinctly of Philadelphia.  I'm always in favor of talking about these issues, however politically "incorrect" they may be, because nothing gets solved by pushing it under the carpet.  

Thanks for the input.  

by BPK80 2008-06-10 03:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

yeah, I know.  Women can be the worst in jobs - I am a woman and I know my female director is harder on me (and my "tone") than my male counterparts.

I just felt saddened that, in your case, it resorted to violence.  

by colebiancardi 2008-06-09 12:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Thank you for sharing.  Always know that what you're going through is real and if people say, "well how can she be sexist against you when she herself is a woman?" know that this line of thinking has been debunked everywhere.

Anyone can discriminate or hate, even against people in their same protected class.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:12PM | 0 recs
I am glad you are alright

Pressing charges is the way to go.  You should also be able to get reparations for all medical costs.

Good luck

by CAchemist 2008-06-09 11:55AM | 0 recs
Re: I am glad you are alright

Thank you.  It seems this person has limited or no income so reimbursement may be an ongoing battle.

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:00PM | 0 recs
I am so sorry

I have tears literally rolling down my cheeks.

I live in NYC and have attended 3 rallies for Hillary Clinton (including the Elton John concert fundraiser). Hillary's support among the gay community here is over-the-top in such a wonderful, vocal, proud, positive way. I am projecting you in your Hillary T-shirt onto those amazing men who I always loved chatting with at her events.

Your story makes me profoundly sad and also extremely angry.

Thank you for sharing it... let the light shine in on hatred, hate crimes, bigotry and civil rights abuses in ALL its forms!

by twinmom 2008-06-09 11:58AM | 0 recs
Re: I am so sorry

Thank you.  We do love Hillary very much, and prior to this incident, a lot of my friends at the club were giving me high fives and hugs for supporting Hillary.  

And as time goes on, the association with her is becoming a lightning rod for anti-white sentiment, just as association with Obama is becoming a lightning rod for anti-Black sentiment.  

If this gets into the paper, I think it's bound to rile up a lot of anti-Obama sentiment here and I'm not sure that's a good thing.  I don't even know who I'm voting for in the fall (that's not a threat I make just an honest statement of my current state of mind, even before the assault).

Hugs for your good heart and sharing your thoughts,

-B

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:05PM | 0 recs
You should be able

to get a lien placed on this guy's future earnings to help reimburse your medical expenses.  In fact your insurance company might do that.

I am sorry to hear that happened to you,  I can not really relate as the worst I've gotten was being stuffed in a locker in high school for mouthing off to people.

I hope your symptoms are temporary.

by Student Guy 2008-06-09 12:10PM | 0 recs
Re: You should be able

Thanks, SG.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:13PM | 0 recs
I'm sorry for the assault

Totally out of bounds, totally unconscionable given that the guy who attacked you is himself a marginalized group.  If anyone should know better than to hate on another group it'd be him.  But I suppose, deep down, some people are just dicks.

That being said, I don't really see how this had to do with your Hillary shirt.  From your description, it seems like a racist hate crime, not a hate crime against a Hillary supporter.

by BishopRook 2008-06-09 11:59AM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

Correct, it was a race-based hate crime, not an "anti-Hillary" hate crime.  The shirt's relevance is indeterminable at this time except that public affiliation with Hillary is now interpreted by some as code for racial supremacy.  Kind of like the 2008 Confederate Flag.  Hence, it plays into the racial tension here.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

I don't think I've seen that.  Maybe I just hang around with the wrong crowd (or, on second thought, the right one...), but nobody I know has equated support of Clinton with racial supremacy.

by BishopRook 2008-06-09 12:05PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

It might be regional.  On the East Coast, and in Eastern Pennsylvania where I live, the nexus between racial tension and the primary was very obvious.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:15PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

Well, I'm in Tennessee, myself.

by BishopRook 2008-06-09 12:23PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

Ok.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 02:06PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

The shirt's relevance is indeterminable at this time except that public affiliation with Hillary is now interpreted by some as code for racial supremacy.  Kind of like the 2008 Confederate Flag.  

This is a very strong statement to make regardless of your experience. I saw upthread that somebody asked about the relevance of you Hillary t-shirt and you accused the commenter of siding with the attacker. I'm sorry you had to go through that ordeal but these statements makes one takes the rest of you diary with a pinch of salt.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-09 12:18PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

shrug

Maybe you should try wearing a Hillary shirt in a really racially divided East Coast city.  It might give you some firsthand understanding of that's going on on the ground here.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:35PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

If you knew it was divisive, why did you WEAR it?

by venician 2008-06-09 04:15PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

I'm realizing it more in retrospect.  It's kind of like when you're in a bad relationship.  Everything seems fine and there are a few rough spots, but it's not until things get really out of control that you look back and see the early signs.

In the future, I'll probably just wear the shirt around the house or to venues where I know it won't be misinterpreted.

by BPK80 2008-06-10 03:24AM | 0 recs
I'm sorry for the assault

I feel bad for what you have been through.  It sucks to get beat up and hurts too.

But this seems like a weird way to start the notion that there is a national perception that Hillary supporters are racists.  You may be projecting your personal incident onto the entire country.  I haven't seen or heard anyting like this before.  I am not using that as proof your assertion is not true, but I would think I would've heard this by now.  I mean, being that you are in Penn, are there riots outside of Rendell's office due to his ardent support of Hillary?  

Sorry, but I am not buying your theory and I'd hesitate suggesting that was the reason this guy picked on you, because as you relay to us, he didn't even mention the shirt.  BUt obviously, if you think that was the reason, then by all means stand by it.  But if you are not sure, then I wouldn't tell reporters that the shirt was the reason.

But, you should definitely continue to press charges, even if he is broke, because the court will garnish his wages, even a little amount per month .

by KLRinLA 2008-06-09 12:27PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm sorry for the assault

"But this seems like a weird way to start the notion that there is a national perception that Hillary supporters are racists."

That's not what I was doing.  There's some serious distrust on the ground here between Black and White people.  I feel it when I wear the gear.  I've gotten snide remarks from AA's.  

"BUt obviously, if you think that was the reason, then by all means stand by it.  But if you are not sure, then I wouldn't tell reporters that the shirt was the reason."

Well that's part of the reason I posted here, to start a discussion.  I don't know what to tell reporters but the incident has been described as the attack on the "guy in the Hillary shirt."  I don't think the attacker hated Hillary, but he may have had a dislike for white people (well pretty obviously) and the shirt may have exacerbated it.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:44PM | 0 recs
Did the guy say anything on the website

when he was bragging about the incident?  Maybe he posted more stuff too, in his history, if that is possible to review on that site.  That may provide you with some more info as to his motivations...or maybe when he is interviewed by police/DA, because the DA is going to have to get facts to establish a hate crime and some similar facts may come out of that.  

Who is describing the incident as an attack on a guy with a hillary shirt?  Is it already out in local media or is that how the cop reported it?  I will tell you that the national press will eat this story up, nothing like some racism/homophobia from a gay man/hillary vs. obama  fights  (not to make light of your incident).  You know the press will trip over themselves for this story.  So do it if you want to, but keep in mind it may be a little humiliating having tons of reporters snooping around and digging into your private life.  That alone would prevent me from trying to push this into the national spotlight.

So the question is, what do you want?  Do you want to place national attention on a "maybe" he did it b/c of my shirt, b/c I am white, maybe b/c I am gay, maybe b/c of a mixture of all or some of the above?

I think therein lies your answer.  I mean, this will by all means cause a firestorm for a day or two and have supporters of HIllary flame up for a day and rip open the barely healed scars again and really get into some crazy namecalling, accustaions, innuendo, and mostly disturbingly of all, massive speculation by tv pundits.

So look at what you want, what the likely outcome will be, and what good, if any, can be had from it, that is my advice.

And of course, press charges

by KLRinLA 2008-06-09 01:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Did the guy say anything on the website

KL, thank you for your response.  

"Is it already out in local media or is that how the cop reported it?  I will tell you that the national press will eat this story up, nothing like some racism/homophobia from a gay man/hillary vs. obama  fights  (not to make light of your incident)."

These questions are exactly things going through my mind.  Anti-white hate crimes are not things I have seen often and the contemporaneous and persistent anti-white remarks make this a clear candidate for considering hate crime.  Given the timing of the event (night before Hillary concedes, er... day of technically), I'm aware that a little story like this is even more attractive to the prurient media.  It's 10x more explosive than Harriet Christian.

And no I don't want my private life to be all over the internet.  I don't want to be seen as a martyr for any cause especially when I'm currently undecided regarding the fall election and my distrust of the party.  I'm conflicted.

I don't know what I want.  Your question was the exact question that prompted me to start some discussion and dialogue.  I also feel MyDD is a tight knit community and people get to know each other here more than on DailyKos, so I wrote it to share a big personal experience for me.    

by BPK80 2008-06-09 01:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Did the guy say anything on the website

No worries, good luck in whatever you decide

by KLRinLA 2008-06-09 02:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Hopefully, the shitbag will get what's coming to him.  

One question though:  How does the T-shirt tie in?  I'm failing to see how the crimes of some violent scumbag can be chalked up to "tensions from the primaries".

Also, per this:

We sat/crouched down in front of the bar and he explained in greater detail how his partner was taking him for granted, being distant & evasive, and basically everything one would expect to hear in a standard country song, minus of course the same sex status.  

WIllie Nelson supports Gay Rights!  

by fogiv 2008-06-09 12:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Thanks for the Willie Nelson!

As for the T-Shirt, it's not clear whether or how much of a factor it has been.  In the city where I live (in a state which, mind you, had the longest and most race-"scandalous" primary season of any: Pennsylvania), everyone is on edge from the primary.  There are a lot of passions and a lot of hostility on both sides.  I had been offhandedly insulted by a few non-whites on the basis of the T-Shirt prior to this incident.  I think support of Hillary is viewed by some as opposition to Black progress and so it is seen as a personal affront.  Hence the tie in as another possible factor in the assault.  

Plus, that was the first thing my mom said when I talked to her after getting out of the ER.  For real.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

I think support of Hillary is viewed by some as opposition to Black progress and so it is seen as a personal affront.

Well.  There certainly are some racists who support Hillary, and there certainly are some sexists who support Obama, but their number is negligible and they are stupid.  Anybody who judges the whole supporter base by those idiots is himself a fool.

by BishopRook 2008-06-09 12:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Well, there are some people who are so enamored with Obama that they believe any opposition to him can only be explained by overt or latent racism.  

I'm neither racist nor sexist.  I made a decision when I was young to work against oppression regardless of whether its oppressee was oppressed on account of race, disability, gender identity, sex, etc.

However, I'm outspoken.  I believe in consciousness and talking about race, sex, GLBT, etc.  I don't like being silenced by the threat of being accused of racism.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 01:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Thanks for explaining that bit.  Even if this moron was somehow inspired to violence by your T-shirt, I've no doubt he'd have found another reason to act out anyway.  Let's not let the actions of this horrid person reflect on general Obama supporters.

In any event, I'm glad it wasn't worse and sincerely hope you recover quickly, and that justice is served.

P.S. You're welcome for the Willie.  Check this link for more info on GLBT themed country music.  It does exist, believe it or not.  :)

http://www.queermusicheritage.us/mar2005 .html

by fogiv 2008-06-09 12:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Oh, it isn't intended to reflect on all Obama supporters.  I have (a few) family members who support him and despite some agitators, I find most of the Obama supporters on this site are very likable.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Thanks for the link also.

Here's a song for you.  It's called Beauty Queen, Horses by Tori Amos.  Performed by... well, me.  :-)

by BPK80 2008-06-09 01:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

But having heard from many people, it seems what happened to me has intensified high passions and rawness about the racial tension the primary has engendered.
I agree with you; the media didn't help matters.

by soyousay 2008-06-09 12:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

People here are very intense right now.  On the bright side, I've never seen so many "offline" (aka "real people" ;-) ) so involved with politics.  By the same token, hostility and mistrust are rampant.  Really really rampant.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:20PM | 0 recs
I've taken hits before

It's not fun, especially when you totally didn't deserve it.

The guy was drunk or drugged, and spoiling for a fight.  I really doubt your status as a Clinton supporter had anything to do with it; for the most part, Clinton still has a strong majority of the gay vote, regardless of race or gender.  He singled you out because you represented a particular demographic that he'd worked out some hatred for in his head earlier that night, I'd bet.

Press charges.  So many of these cases result in dismissal because the victims don't stand up.  When I got punched for intervening in a domestic abuse situation, the guy would've gotten off scot-free had I not shown up to the courthouse... as it stood, he saw me on the escalator before the court time and split; the cops eventually caught up with him on other charges and he got jail time.

Think of it this way: by pressing charges on this violent jagoff, you ensure that he's got a police record in case he ever causes trouble again, or god forbid beats up a lover.

Silence and intimidation are the tools of the violent and the discriminatory.

by Dracomicron 2008-06-09 12:28PM | 0 recs
Re: I've taken hits before

Thanks.  The constant reference to my skin color, eye color, and Northern Euro heritage made this seem more like a hate crime than an ordinary fight.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:32PM | 0 recs
Clearly

Your skin tone was an issue, to be sure.

We don't know what triggered it; it's quite possible that he got blown off by a white guy and was taking out his anger on you.  Or perhaps his boyfriend left him for a white guy.  Certainly the obsession with what's currently fashionable in your gay community leads me to believe that it's more personal than is immediately apparent.

Or he could be just a racist jagoff.  Obviously it's still mysterious.  All the more reason for you to take his ass to court and make it harder for him to throw a beating on anyone else in the future.

by Dracomicron 2008-06-09 12:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Clearly

If I was unclear, I never intended to say that "I was attacked because I wore a Hillary shirt."  I just happened to be wearing it, it is a bit racially provocative (I'm finding that out as I've been chided a few times by AA's--this is a new shirt that I just got as a birthday gift), and in the pictures from around the incident, that's basically all you see of me.  My face is dark but you see a big Hillary motto.  

Why it's important is because I live in a city where racial tension is at an unprecedented high; people are raw from the primary, and if the charges are pressed, "anti-white" hate crime is likely to catch the eye of the local media, and voila: there I am in a Hillary shirt.  

Does that help explain it?

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:49PM | 0 recs
I read you.

Don't worry, I understand.  Just wanted to clear up my own thoughts.  Having been beaten up myself in an ethnic situation (I lived down the hall from the baby mama of the black guy who hit me.  The only reason I was involved is because he buzzed my apartment in the middle of the night and I let him in while half-asleep), I feel very strongly that the status as violence between races is less important than the fact that there's violence at all.

I don't care if it's labelled a "hate crime" or not.  Just press charges.

by Dracomicron 2008-06-09 01:01PM | 0 recs
Re: I read you.

Point taken on the hate crime argument.  It reminds me of the "all crimes are hate crimes" viewpoint I see.  It's a compelling view but as a practical matter, I don't mind victims having extra leverage against attackers to increase penalties.  To dehumanize someone and rip them up just because they're black or white is really awful and I don't have a moral opposition to enhanced sentencing.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 01:58PM | 0 recs
I am not...

by nurture a violent man.  I have never in my life wanted to inflict violence upon another individual than I do now.  

I am so sorry for what happened to you.  Some people out there are just plain old shits with no greater purpose than to be a plague on society.

Again, I am sorry this happened to you.  Glad you are here and all right.

by igottheblues 2008-06-09 12:44PM | 0 recs
Re: I am not...

Thank you.  

Nothing like this ever happened to me in my life.  I appreciate the kind words of support.

by BPK80 2008-06-09 12:45PM | 0 recs
Re: I am not...

And I pray to whatever deity that is listening that it never happens to you again.  Actually, I pray to whomever is listening that it never happens to anyone period.

It saddens me that it does happen, though.

by igottheblues 2008-06-09 01:07PM | 0 recs
Re: I am not...

Thank you.  I should say "I'll be more cautious in the future" but really I don't know why or of what.  I don't want to change who I am out of fear of incidents like this repeating.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 01:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience


Sorry to hear this.  Well, long term resentments toward other groups and selfhatred get expressed/projected on others in a lot of ugly ways, and this incident seems to have bundled a couple of different ones in an absurd and really painful way.  

What's worst is that when people lash out like that, they usually hurt allies rather than enemies.  Because enemies might actually really hurt you in return.

Your assailant is really to be pitied and reflects how deeply screwed up this country still really is about race and gender.  

Btw, more black people are prosecuted for racially motivated assaults than white people, and that's not for reasons of prosecutorial bias.

by killjoy 2008-06-09 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Thank you.  I wasn't aware that more Black Americans were prosecuted for hate crimes than whites.  I know they are disproportionately prosecuted for crimes at large (system bias, etc.) but didn't know about that specifically in relation to hate crimes.  

by BPK80 2008-06-10 03:27AM | 0 recs
glad you are ok but..............
 I fail to see how this makes a good topic on a Democratic blog.... I see NOTHING political about this except for mention of the kind of T-shirt you were wearing. I don't wanna be a prick
and again the dude that attacked you was a big time douche and I am glad you are OK but I don't see where you are going with this diary sorry
by wellinformed 2008-06-09 01:17PM | 0 recs
Re: glad you are ok but..............

A hint: racism and hate crimes go both ways.

BPK:  I hope you recover soon.  It is such a shame things like this will happen to anyone.

by observer11 2008-06-09 01:32PM | 0 recs
Re: glad you are ok but..............

Thank you.

by BPK80 2008-06-09 02:03PM | 0 recs
Re: glad you are ok but..............

1. Hate crimes based on race and sexual orientation are huge political issues and frequently the topics of legislative (particularly state) debate.

2. Snapshots of a guy whose face you can barely see in a Hillary T-Shirt getting attacked the same night as a "pale skinned blue eyed troll" w. other anti-white (and anti-gay) slurs seem to strike right at the heart of the racially tense primary.  You may not think so, but I think that would be a minority view.

3. The personal is political (see Feminist Legal Theory).

4. MyDD is a close community and in my time here I see a lot of us exchange personal stories to help illustrate who we are and what makes a particular viewpoint appeal to us.  

I shouldn't have to justify posting this diary, but there it is.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 02:03PM | 0 recs
Why did the guy call you a 'troll'?

That's blog-speak.  No one outside of the internet uses it (not really).  Were you talking to your friend about blogging?  Did he say he was a blogger - or knew you were one?  How exceedingly odd.

Glad to hear you're OK.  What a terrible experience.  Do post more on this when it goes to court.

by The Fat Lady Sings 2008-06-09 08:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Why did the guy call you a 'troll'?

That's a good observation.  I wasn't talking about blogging at all.  I think he meant troll in the "ugly" sense.  He also called me "fat" at one point when statistically, I've always been slightly underweight.  (Though I did gain 5 pounds during the primary season due to too much reading and not enough exercise) :-)

It began as ordinary insults and degenerated into this anti-white/anti-gay stuff.  

by BPK80 2008-06-10 03:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Everyone should be appalled by this incident.  This guy sounds like a real asshole.  I'm glad you pressed charges.  Hope you're okay.

by Captain Bathrobe 2008-06-09 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Thank you.  The charges haven't been filed yet.  I'm speaking to police again tonight.  

by BPK80 2008-06-09 02:04PM | 0 recs
I Was Chased

one time by a group of teens on my way into a gay bar in San Antonio. I don't think I've ever run as fast in my LIFE as I ran that night.

I'm so sad and even a little scared from reading this. You just never know when some psycho is gonna walk up to you. I know I let my guard down living here in the Castro section of San Francisco. But even here someone screamed "FAGGOT" at me while I was walking down the street with friends. First time that's happened to me since I left NC.

*HUGS*

by RNinNC 2008-06-09 02:24PM | 0 recs
Re: I Was Chased

Wow.

That's a really chilling experience.  I was only in San Fran once, and I remember somehow being in a conversation with a straight guy who said the city wasn't really gay friendly but that they just "tolerate" the gays.  I didn't know what to say.

I suppose in American life, segregation is reality.  Even the biggest most "diverse" cities are split into neighborhoods based on race, ethnicity, and sexual orientation.  

Is it that birds of a feather "flock together" or is it that oil and water don't mix, no matter how hard you try?

Big questions I guess.

Thanks for sharing you story and hugs back.

by BPK80 2008-06-09 03:35PM | 0 recs
Even Though It WAS Scary,

I feel lucky when I read stories like yours. I mean, I saw them watching us, and I saw when they obviously had made up their minds to pursue us. I got a bit of a head start and knew IMMEDIATELY that their intentions were bad. If we'd been any further away, we wouldn't have made it into the club.

Anyway, I hope this doesn't cause you to keep to yourself, cause it easily could lead to some withdrawal. Of course, you'll have alot more difficulty letting your guard down, which is both good and bad...

Best wishes!

by RNinNC 2008-06-10 01:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Even Though It WAS Scary,

I feel lucky too because I know a lot worse can happen.  I don't want to withdraw and I've spoken with a lot of my friends this weekend.  They've all been great.  

by BPK80 2008-06-10 03:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

I still don't understand why you wore that shirt if you knew it was divisive??????

by venician 2008-06-09 04:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

See above.  I realized it was divisive in retrospect.  It was a new shirt.  Prior to the incident, I hadn't taken the time to sit down and psychoanalyze its effect on the populace at large.  

Besides, I'm not opposed to people wearing clothes with provocative slogans like "Free Tibet" or the like.

by BPK80 2008-06-10 03:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Glad to know that you are ok.

by optimisticBoy 2008-06-14 09:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Assaulted: True Experience

Thank you.  I'm pressing charges but we're opting not to go the hate crime route for many reasons.  

by BPK80 2008-06-15 09:55PM | 0 recs

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