The Bin Laden Tape Is A Ridiculous Neocon Forgery

Wayne Madsen said it. I believe it. That may not be the end of it -- But -- I still believe it!

Wayne Madsen Report

The Bush perception managers are either incredibly stupid or are trying to ensnare liberal journalists as aiders and abettors of Al Qaeda, something that is certainly within their scope. Bin Laden quotes the following passage from Blum's book, Rogue State:  "If you (Americans) are sincere in your desire for peace and security, we have answered you. And if Bush decides to carry on with his lies and oppression, then it would be useful for you to read the book Rogue State...

....Bin Laden might not be so eager to quote Blum if he was aware of his other work, Killing Hope, an expose of the CIA's covert wars. In it, Blum defends to Soviet occupation of Afghanistan as self-defense against the CIA-backed Islamist guerrillas, including Bin Laden's forces, that were backed by the CIA. Now, why would Bin Laden plug an author like Blum who backed Bin Laden's hated enemies, the Soviet Communists and their Afghan allies?

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Sorry
...but this is tin-foil hat stuff. This is why they call us the "loony left".
by bluenc 2006-01-20 08:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry
The only alternative is to believe that Bin Laden is a total dummy who directs the world to read a book that seems to explain his point of view, but which just happens to be written by someone who wrote another book that contradicts everything he ever stood for. For me, it comes down to the question of: "WHO IS STUPIDER?"

I have been watching that particular game, and I think I know who the current champions in the stupidity category are.

And remember: paraphobia kills! (Despite what that nice professor might have taught you.)

(Tinfoil will soon be one of the few materials that is worth anything. It take a huge amount of electrical energy to electrolytically extract aluminum from ore. Just pure energy...)

by blues 2006-01-21 02:04AM | 0 recs
William Blum's
"Killing Hope" seems to be the ONLY book..

>That catalogues the seventy or so US foreign
>interventions in one places and examines their
>implications to the people of those countries, in
>deaths..
>
>And as such, its a unique work.
>Maybe the campaign against it is an effort to >stigmatize people who read it? I don't know.
>
>But I do know that I would never have heard about
>it if some wingnut had not vilified it on a blog
>I read in such a viterperative fashion that I
>checked it out at my local (independent) >bookstore. It was a mindblower. Very very scary.
>
>If Americans don't know our history in the covert
>'foreign policy' arena, then we are in a sense, flying
>blind in the world.
>
>The Cheney crowd probably hate 'Killing Hope' because
>it is in a sense, a listing of things that the US
>people need to know about that they don't know..
>
>Another thing the US people don't seem to know is that
>the Bush and Bin Laden familes are very close..
>
>I'm not saying that they work together.. But, looking
>at the history of dishonesty to all of us, its not
>impossible..
>
>But I think the possibility that the OBL tape was a
>forgery spewed to boost Bush's plummeting credibility
>ratings and divert people's attention from the many
>scandals is much more probable..
>
>But the old tricks aren't working.. perhaps we are so
>tired of their crap that our emotions are just all
>wrung out..

Sorry to duplicate this post but people were obviously trying to make it scroll away..

by ultraworld 2006-01-21 05:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry
Why do you use the word "us?"

The tape is obviously a fake.  Why would audio forensic specialists working for US intelligence authenticate the tape within 30 hours if there wasnt some political motivation?  I doubt a first or second generation copy could even get to Virginia within that time frame (presuming that Al Jazeera doesnt maintain dedicated digital uplinks with the CIA.)  

And as someone with some experience in forensics, I know that the process of coming to conclusions is slow and careful work.  If it took a week or two, and then we heard that there was a 'high probability' of the tape being authentic, it would have been more convincing.  But then, of course, it would have been out of the news cycle.  

Remember, US intelligence has brought forth obviously faked tapes of Bin Laden in the past.

We should all know by now that tin foil hats do not protect us from the government reading our minds.  In fact, they make is easier for the government to track us.

by Winston Smith 2006-01-21 12:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry
Beautiful. You link to a site that claims the US government is secretly controlled by Israel and  provides information about the Clintons killing Vince Foster. Credible.
by bluenc 2006-01-21 02:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry
No, it doesnt.  It's a paper produced by MIT scientists that proves that the government uses tin foil hats to track dissidents.

Oh, you meant the other link.

by Winston Smith 2006-01-21 02:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry
Dear bluenc:

Who's link do you mean? How can you make such a sweeping accusation while being unable to back it up with links of your own?

by blues 2006-01-21 05:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry
Winston Smith provided a link that is supposed to prove to us that the bin Laden tapes are fakes by the Bush administration. The site is an anti-semitic conspiracy theory page that details how evil the Clintons are and how Jews are controlling the US government.
by bluenc 2006-01-21 05:29PM | 0 recs
Killing Hope is the only book...
That catalogues the seventy or so US foreign interventions in one places and examines their implications to the people of those countries, in deaths..

And as such, its a unique work.

If Americans don't know our history in the covert 'foreign policy' arena, then we are in a sense, flying blind in the world.

The Cheney crowd probably hate 'Killing Hope' because it is in a sense, a listing of things that the US people need to know about that they don't know..

Another thing the US people don't seem to know is that the Bush and Bin Laden familes are very close..

I'm not saying that they work together.. But, looking at the history of dishonesty to all of us, its not impossible..

But I think the possibility that the OBL tape was a forgery spewed to boost Bush's plummeting credibility ratings and divert people's attention from the many scandals is much more probable..

But the old tricks aren't working.. perhaps we are so tired of their crap that our emotions are just all wrung out..

by ultraworld 2006-01-20 09:45PM | 0 recs

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