Latest Obama VP News

While the press may be getting ready to call Romney as McCain's VP, Obama's VP search remains a total mystery.  The news about who is allegedly being vetted or not vetted is baffling.  They could be smokescreens or accurate, so it's anybody's guess.  So here's what is being reported.

1) Dodd came out and answered affirmatively to the question that he was being vetted.  I find it shocking first that he admitted that he was asked to submit documents and second that he is in fact being vetted despite his ties, whether innocent or not, to the Countrywide mortgage debacle.

2) Biden came out and answered affirmatively that he was not being vetted, which is extremely surprising considering that he has kind of being considered as the favorite after the Clark non-controvery controversy from several weeks ago.  Biden has been the only person in the news who has appeared as a surrogate for Obama on national television.

3) Howard Wolfson claimed that Clinton was not being vetted, as far as he knew (there's that nefarious phrase again), but claimed that her not being formally asked to submit papers, as far he knew, didn't mean that she wasn't on Obama's list because most of her financial information is out in the public record already, thanks in some part to Obama himself during the primaries.  Of all the people discussed in the news, Obama hasn't campaigned with anybody else but her.

4) Sebelius gave a non-answer to the question about whether she was asked to submit documents.  It seems that of all the most high-profile candidates, Sebelius has gotten the biggest free-ride from Obama as he hasn't asked to serve as his surrogate on national television since he won presumptive nominee status.  It seems odd that Obama would pick her unless he saw how she performed against any of the tools that McCain is putting out there on a weekly basis.

5) McCaskill gives a non-answerto the question of being vetted, Salazar says he hasn't been asked to submit documents, and Tim Kaine is at the top of Bob Novak's list for Obama VPs.

I get the sense that Obama is enjoying this mystery that he's creating.  Who his VP will be seems to be anybody's guess considering all the signals/smokescreens he likes to send out.

Tags: mystery, obama, VP (all tags)



Offshore drilling

To hijack my own thread, in no way should the dems cave on this issue.  Instead, they should offer a "compromise" that they know McConnell and his group of tools will never accept; that is, throw in a windfall profits tax on the oil companies in exchange for permission to drill offshore.  We can claim that the purpose of the tax would be to invest in alternative energy programs.  McConnell would never allow that to happen and he surely would have votes to stage a filibuster.

We should make these tools look silly by filibustering the very thing they already wrongly claim will reduce gas prices because they didn't want to tax the outrageous profits that oil companies make; McCain wouldn't know how to respond.

by Blazers Edge 2008-07-11 06:29AM | 0 recs
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The dems will offer to compromise if the oil companies show something on the oil leases they already have within 5 years.  The oil companies don't want more leases they just want to use this as a wedge issue to get McBush elected because they know he will be big oil's buddy.  The dems are showing that they can play the game too, by showing that they can play too.

by Spanky 2008-07-11 07:58AM | 0 recs
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How could Obama NOT love the intrigue? The VP speculation is building anticipation, generating buzz and taking up even more media time that could've been spent on McCain (or on the flip-side, on flag pins).

I would be delighted if he picked Dodd, though I'd hate to lose such a terrific Senator. I'm hoping he'd be majority leader if Reid decides he's had his fill of caving in.

Biden would be a better secretary of state. Sebelius is okay; Salazar no; McCaskill and Kaine are both too green. I don't think Clark's out of the theoretical running, though it's unknown if he was even under serious consideration to begin with.

I think there's only one choice to be made at this point. That's right: me. I would be an awesome VP. I know a lot of stuff, and I'd, like, totally back up whatever Obama says. I've suggested this to the campaign but no one's called me back.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-07-11 06:30AM | 0 recs
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I can see the signs now:

Obama/Crooner '08!

by freedom78 2008-07-11 07:01AM | 0 recs
You'd Be a Fresh Face

That would be an advantage. But I think Obama's choice is going to be somewhat conventional. I give it a 50-50 chance that it will be a white southern male senator or former senator. Although from the Northeast, Dodd also has a relatively high chance of being picked.

McCain is more likely to go with the non-conventional choice. I give it  50-50 odds that he'll pick a woman to entice former Clinton supporters to vote for him.

I also think that you would not be the best choice for VP because I'm the best.

by Zzyzzy 2008-07-11 08:41AM | 0 recs
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Is something going on with McCain and Romney right now?

by rfahey22 2008-07-11 06:34AM | 0 recs
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Are you trying to start some lascivious  rumor :)

by jsfox 2008-07-11 06:52AM | 0 recs
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I'd love for McCain to pick Mittens!

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-11 06:53AM | 0 recs
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Hey, how about my man Wesley Clark ?

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-11 06:52AM | 0 recs

had an article about how he was going to take some time off after the dust-up.  It certainly sounds as if he'll be sitting this one out.

by Blazers Edge 2008-07-11 07:00AM | 0 recs
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I thought Wes kicked pundit ass.

He was my choice, so, back to the drawing board.

by WashStateBlue 2008-07-11 08:01AM | 0 recs
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It's Obama/Clinton or we bolt my friends--unity, smunity.

by handsomegent 2008-07-11 07:05AM | 0 recs
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shoo kitty, shoo.

by fogiv 2008-07-11 07:20AM | 0 recs
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You are going to bolt your friends?  To what? And which friends?  A very odd protest indeed.

by Strummerson 2008-07-11 07:25AM | 0 recs
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We stay home or bolt to Nader--either way NObama.

by handsomegent 2008-07-11 07:55AM | 0 recs
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You're going to bolt your friends to Nader?  What size bolts?  He's a pretty skinny guy.  And what kind?  Carriage bolts?  And which friends will you be bolting to Nader?  Are you going to film this?

by Strummerson 2008-07-11 08:00AM | 0 recs
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Yes probably.  Maybe we'll take the train to Winsted--I understand it's lovely there in the fall.  Either way, we'll NEVER vote for Obama.

by handsomegent 2008-07-11 08:23AM | 0 recs
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i love how people in small insignificant minority positions like this must always refer to themselves as "we". i assume it's to make people care about your threat.

sorry, not working.

by falseintellect 2008-07-11 08:47AM | 0 recs
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According to a poll released this week 11% of Clinton voters will back McCain, 32% will not vote for president at all and only 53% will support Obama.  I hardly consider these statistics representative of a small minority.

by handsomegent 2008-07-11 08:59AM | 0 recs
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And according to some polls, nearly half of all Americans believe the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.  As with them, I respect your right to hold these beliefs, even if I find them hard to take seriously.  In the mean time, "we" will enjoy the company of republicans and independents who will vote for Obama, but never for Clinton, and work for victory in Nov. and a successful administration that attends to many of the issues "we" care about.

And if Obama and Clinton can make it work, I think it would be an exciting ticket I would be enthusiastic about.  Then I will appreciate your vote, even if I think your rationale is a bit on the childish and absurd side of things.  

PS I also hold some childish and absurd positions, but they usually have to do with my tastes in music, movies, and TV programs.

by Strummerson 2008-07-11 09:10AM | 0 recs
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Also, I hope you don't consider me one of your friends.  I really don't want to be bolted to Ralph Nader.  Or anyone else.  It would be awfully hard to be available for my kids if I was bolted to anyone or anything.

by Strummerson 2008-07-11 09:13AM | 0 recs
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Then consider yourself not a friend.  And your analogy is what's absurd.

by handsomegent 2008-07-14 04:50AM | 0 recs
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The analogy is built on a clear and distinct similarity.  Both your position with regard to Obama and that of young earth creationists stress ideology over evidence, and freely shape evidence to support a predetermined commitment.  And I support anyone's right to hold either of these positions.  I also find them intellectually risible and immature.  And I will oppose their promotion accordingly.  In the mean time, stop threatening us with hardware and abandonment.

by Strummerson 2008-07-14 05:13AM | 0 recs
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It is not absurd to vote against soomeone even though you may agree on most issues.  As a Clinton donor I will join millions of others who refuse to bend and scrape to your media darling.  By the by, your 20 dollar vocabulary doesn't inmpress me either.

by handsomegent 2008-07-14 06:23AM | 0 recs
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Only 53% of Clinton supporters wil support Saint Barack--my evidence is right in front of you--you just don't like hearing it.

by handsomegent 2008-07-14 06:24AM | 0 recs
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Why would you even begin to think that I am the least bit interested in impressing you?  

As I wrote earlier, if Obama and HRC, agree to a ticket, I will be pleased and appreciative of your vote.  If that doesn't happen, have a lovely day and please send my regards to your nose-cutting, face-spiting friends.  If you have already bolted them to Nader, they should be easy to locate.  I'll not lose any sleep over this.  Just like I lose no sleep over not getting Pat Robertson's support.  Stop threatening 'us' over something 'we' have no control over.  'We' have more serious things to fight for.  I'll not be responding again, so feel free to have the last  word if that gratifies you in some way.

by Strummerson 2008-07-14 07:12AM | 0 recs
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"my friends"? Is that you, John McCain?

by MS01 Indie 2008-07-11 08:03AM | 0 recs
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I'm glad to know you don't give a crap about any of those pesky "issues."  Aren't there teen magazines on your favorite politicians?  You know the type.

I can't imagine Senator Clinton appreciates this cult of personality you've got going right now.  She went to Washington to get things done, not win popularity contests or put out popular records.

Do you believe in the things she believes in?  Any of them?  Why would you punish HER for the perceived slights of others?

Be an adult.  Vote responsibly.  Where do you want American to go?  Do you think the presence or absence of a particular candidate for VP will make  or break that direction?

Do you believe in progressive ideals?  Do you support the war?  How do you feel about John McCain?

You are free to vote against Obama.  You are free to vote for the Easter Bunny if you like.  I don't really care that much, and I respect your rights.  I'm being serious about that.

However, don't think for a second that I respect YOU.  You seem pretty toxic, frankly.  Who needs ideals when you can simply have heroes?

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-07-11 08:29AM | 0 recs
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Ugly gent is a long-time troll; pay no attention.

by rfahey22 2008-07-11 08:31AM | 0 recs
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I don't agree with McCain on anything. I will not vote for him and am not a troll.  You can say the word as much as you like.  I will be voting for Nader or staying home--so will my wife and a lot of our friends and family who supported and contributed to HRC's campaign. We will not sit by and let the media get away with what they said during the campaign intheir neverending love affair with Obama. i harken back to last summer when that swine Matthews mocked HRC's habit of clapping her hands to her supporters.  I wouldn't vote for Obama just to wipe the smirk off Matthews' face.  And that goes double for Olbermann.

by handsomegent 2008-07-11 08:40AM | 0 recs
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I would not bolt, but I think for money purposes, he should pick Clinton. Does he really expect Clinton donors to give to him without anything in return? Politics is tit for tat. Also, notice Obama starting to slow up in fundraising. If he picked Hillary, her huge fatcat donors would came along board, and bring an insane amount of money to the ticket. Her supporters would come right back. While some of the bloggers would be angry, I'd bet most of Obama's supporters wouldn't mind her on the ticket. Its only the loud Dkos echo chamber that is giving the image of being against such a thing. While it could hurt appeal to independents, it would be less of a gamble because it would lock Latinos in for sure, Hillary voters, and women, I mean its not like McCain is gonna run a strong campaign anyway. Having the woman and the blacks come out in huge force would be a political force to be reckoned with. The Clinton machine would open up and work hard. Hillary could throw Appalachia into play just to get McCain to spend money. The only thing I do slightly worry about is having both a black man and white woman on a ticket. It could possibly bring images of miscegenation to some minds, not a help.  

by Lakrosse 2008-07-11 08:57AM | 0 recs
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A full scale Veep screen and selection can dominate the news cycle for a week.  The Democratic Convention starts on August 25 but the Olympics run from August 8 through August 24.  They may be a bust but the safest course is to start the full scale dance no later than August 1 and no earlier than July 24.  I always figured it would be left to the last two weeks.

McCain may save his choice to the Convention in an attempt to juice up the ratings for the infomercial.  He's more of a known quantity so there seems to be less interest.

by David Kowalski 2008-07-11 07:12AM | 0 recs
The reason why McCain's

Veep is drawing any interest is the underlying theory that he's largely irrelevant in this entire campaign, except to the extent that Obama successfully or unsuccessfully ties McCain to Bush.  Whoever McCain chooses as VP (Ambinder isn't backing off his Pawlenty prediction) won't matter at all.

Obama is just such an unorthodox candidate that his Veep is treated as an extremely big deal.  The pubs probably feel they have Obama cornered on the VP issue.

by Blazers Edge 2008-07-11 07:24AM | 0 recs
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My theory why McCain's Veep prospects gets alot of interest is because a lot of people don't think McCains heart will last until 2013.

by Zzyzzy 2008-07-11 08:45AM | 0 recs
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This is all now a fudge issues. The real concern I have is the sounding bells that are ringing in the reported $30m haul that Obama made in June.

If that amount is not enough to see, I don't know what will.

by Makey 2008-07-11 07:26AM | 0 recs
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Ah, Mr Nader: The one who said Bush and Gore were equally the same. The one who now has the blood of a million dead, injured, and psychologically damaged souls from many nations on his hands. The one who counts his ego more important than the lives of children in Iraq and the fate of the planet itself.

Ah, yes. Vote for Nader!

by QTG 2008-07-11 08:34AM | 0 recs
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As opposed to whom, Mr. Obama who supports Bush on FISA, who siddles up to the Christian preachers, who has a well known (reformed to Jesus) gay hater singing at his concert in South Carolina? Who backtracked on public financing? Who sat by and mocked HRC as Annie Oakley while his supporters like Shirley Franklin made up quotes from Bill Clinton?

by handsomegent 2008-07-11 08:52AM | 0 recs
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Oh yes, because a comment you didn't like is morally equivalent to 4000 dead GI's and god knows HOW many dead Iraqis.

Jesus, have you ever heard of looking outside of your own little world, to something greater then yourself and your own battered ego?

Go have you little anger party.

Us Democrats will win without you.

by WashStateBlue 2008-07-11 10:26AM | 0 recs
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Obama/Clinton it is.

If Obama was going with anyone else he would need to telegraph it BEFORE the convention.

The majority of Clinton backers I bet think she will be the candidate and many who now say they will support him would change their minds if she is not.

If Obama was going to select a non-Clinton he would need to start very clear its either person A or B but not person Clinton.  This would need to be clear enough that the average Clinton supporter receive the message BEFORE the nomination.

On the other hand if he were planning to select Clinton he would need to telegraph uncertainty while being most associated with Clinton in public.

To me its becoming more and more clear which is occurring.

by dtaylor2 2008-07-11 09:35AM | 0 recs


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