MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

You saw Gary's upbeat Diary a few minutes ago. Can you imagine?

Gary Boatwright, who almost all of you will know as a diarist here on MyDD and who just posted a light hearted Diary about his 'Camping Trip' is in deep, deep financial trouble as he said. And I can' begin to understand all the details.

But he's in deep shit. He got that post up here before he sells/pawns (?) his G4 laptop for $150! Yeah you read that right....$150 and he's happy to get that. We've been in touch and his spirits are good even though his circumstances could hardly be worse. ( Altho everything could always be worse...trust me...)

He just emailed me a few minutes before I walked in and I tried to call him but just got his VM. He has to sell the Laptop to get the money to buy some time on his phone. Yeah...and that isn't even the worst of it.

Our man Gary, (who so likes to stir things up and is probably one of the most 'progressive' bloggers I've ever known...and we do know one another...he worked the CA-48th last year and never gave up)is essentially homeless and without a car! But he makes light of it in his email to me and in his post to us.

I sure as hell wouldn't if it were me! But Gary does.  No car in Southern California is a disaster! And no home anywhere is even worse. Can you even imagine?

So what can we as a community do? HELP HIM with the only thing that will matter today.....CASH.

If everyone trusts the ol' BigDog, I'll take anything into my PAYPAL account and get it to Gary when he next gets in touch. I'm pretty tapped out too from 3 years of little or no income political  work but come the first of the month I'll be able to help too.

There is exactly $7.88 currently in that account. The address is at the end of this diary.

Whatever this Diary brings, this outright call for help for a guy that really is a good man on bad times, will go straight to him. He will call me when he gets the minutes on his phone, a location and let me know where he's then located.

He and I talked about this last week hoping it wouldn't be necessary for him to go this direction. And I hoped I wouldn't have to ask all of us to step up.

We all make a big deal about helping the Nation...about helping our Party...about finding a New Path for our Leadership...about fighting for our Candidates....yet here...right here...is a chance to make a tangible difference in one man's life. And you know that man.

So look in your heart...,stare in a mirror for awhile if that's what it takes, and make a decision whether it's all talk or not.

It's unimportant if you give $1,$5, $10, $20 or $100. Gary Boatwright, my friend and your fellow Blogger, needs help. And we are a community.

If you choose to help, go to PayPal and make a contribution to account:
stuart@stuartoneill.com . 100% will go to him.

I can't be more transparent than that....and I'll keep the community updated on progress.

No more talk. It's time to step up. Let your heart be your guide.

Tags: helping others, MyDD Community, no politics (all tags)

Comments

89 Comments

What happened?

Why is he in such bad shape financially?

by Newsie8200 2006-05-24 04:17PM | 0 recs
Re: What happened?

He as a diary directly below. He can give us the quick tour better than I can. Read his 'Camping Trip' Diary.

If you've never been on truly hard time it might not make sense that a smart man or woman can get there....but it can happen.

Happened to me in the past. Thank god for friends and good luck.

by BigDog 2006-05-24 04:21PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Thanks, Lucas and if Boatwright were online I'm sure he'd say the same.

I hope the 'community' takes notice and doesn't think that those who hit hard times do it on purpose. That would betray our party's ideals.

by BigDog 2006-05-24 06:14PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

I miss Gary when is absent from the Blog.  I like the sense of community here when I can debate and interact with people I have come to know. I sent some scratch.

by Winston Smith 2006-05-24 06:58PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Well if any of you live in SOCAL people I guess you could let the guy crash in your basement or something.  

by strrbr 2006-05-24 06:45PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Ah yes, the same Gary that still has a series of Troll ratings he handed out on his last actions on MyDD. Maybe he's have more financial support if he wasn't busy burning community members over time.

Lotta love for Gary.

by KTinTX 2006-05-24 08:18PM | 0 recs
GB:

hate him when he wastes everyone's time with his "troll wars" and other annoyances, love him when he doesn't. The latter wins, overall.

I'll try to help him out.

by NuevoLiberal 2006-05-24 09:22PM | 0 recs
Gary Boatwright Situation

I know many people want to focus on Gary's flamewars but if you go through his diary pages (27 pages of them!) you'll see that he is a talented writer and he is also a progressive who wants to help change the world.

I first encountered him on MyDD in his previous personna as Jollybuddah. At the time, he was writing his strong objections to torture as a policy of the U.S. and consequently, he was also arguing against the confirmation of Alberto Gonzales. I believe he was personally instrumental in getting many MyDD and dKos readers to take the matter more seriously. Eventually of course a groundswell occurred and the Gonzales hearings helped to bring about a new feeling that perhaps we could have some impact on the Republican juggernaut.

Yes, he's also demonstrated an unhealthy tendency to get too caught up in flame wars and has been guilty of indiscriminately aiming his fire. Heck, he caused me to lose my own trusted user status at one point because I had posted in a diary that ended up being designated a free flame zone by Gary. I didn't like that and I wish he'd stop that sort of behavior. But that's just a blemish that doesn't change the fact that he is someone who can help us online. When he's interested in a topic he'll research it and write about it like few others.

So, long story short. Gary is more than a troll-baiter and I hope he manages to get his personal situation solidified so he can continue to be active in helping progressives become elected.

I'll tell you one thing, I expect to get more value out of the little bit I sent Gary than I did out of the money I sent John Kerry!

by Curt Matlock 2006-05-25 08:50AM | 0 recs
Thanks for the love KTinTX

I should point out however that you were the one who started our ratings flame war when you zeroed out a Tryptophan Coma comment that I made on a Thanksgiving gratitude diary.

(I am on a clunky computer at my bank so I cannot provide a link to your ratings offense)

I have never burned anyone who did not both ask for and deserve getting burned. I learned a long time ago that you can´t please everyone so I don´t even try. Thanks for the good thoughts anyway.

by Gary Boatwright 2006-05-25 01:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks for the love KTinTX

For some reason, the NEXT 30 button doesnt work correctly when I try to browse someone's ratings or comments aafter the first page. So I can't go back that far to see how valid the KtinTx thing was. But I do know I was a part of Gary's troll rating drives.

Gary, as much as I wish you well in your current quest, I am not going to let you get away with bullshit. What you need is cash and encouragement, but not pandering by us to encourage a trait in you that makes you a difficult person which alienates people in life.

You act like you dont attack anyone who never asked for it. I know for a fact that I never attacked you personally in a thread before you did so first. Even then I never troll rated you ever out of spite. I may have given a low rating for a comment that had no purpose but I never went and troll rated a comment just because I disagreed with it, let alone troll rate indisciminately a bunch of comments just to spite you. YOu have done both with me. When I confronted you with the facts and illustrated very clearly what the difference between a troll and someone you have a disagreement with was , you weaseled out of the argument with some disengenuous comment because you knew you couldn't use logic to get in the last word.

Why am I saying this now? You said you were part of AA. I wouldn't know what it is really like, but I would assume they teach you to take responsibility for your actions an not blame others(at least that's what they say in the movies!). I have never seen you do that. You seem to blame everyone else whenever an argument happens and seem incapable of admitting a mistake. With that attitude, you are going to have a hard time succeeding in life. Take it for whatever it is worth. I am not a fan of your participation here. But I do not hate you. If I hated you, I wouldn't even bother saying this. I am not a peace and love guy as one can judge by my Cheney comment in this thread. But I don't hate every person I merely disagree with. And don't mistake my adivice as an attempt to be condescending. I see it as common sense advice we are all capable of giving.

by Pravin 2006-05-26 08:46PM | 0 recs
my sincere wishes

I gotta admit he is not one of my favorite bloggers. Gary has been less than progressive in spirit in our online discussions with him. He has been vindictive. But then maybe he has had a lot of bad breaks in life leading him to get frustrated with others easily. Despite the animosity that existed between us, I feel bad for his case and wish him well.  Even I will admit he has made some positive contributions to this blog.

Even if he didn't, knowing how passionate he feels about participating in online discussions, it would be very cruel for him to lose the laptop on top of everything else. I hope he gets back on his feet soon.

by Pravin 2006-05-24 09:00PM | 0 recs
Re: my sincere wishes

I'll agree to that! (except for the favorite bloggers part, there are some front pagers that I think rank higher in my book for sure :)

by KTinTX 2006-05-24 09:07PM | 0 recs
Re: my sincere wishes

Although he may have made poor decisions in his life, he is at least someone who cares enough to be engaged in the political process.  And at least he focuses his frustration in something that contributes to the improvement of our society and our lives.  I too will send some money.  In cases such as these, one must set aside the small differences that define us and help someone for whom we have enough respect enough to engage online.

by illinois062006 2006-05-24 10:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Some generous people out here!

There are some generous people out here. Thank you on behalf of Gary. He sent me another email from a Radio Shack and will be in touch soon.

Keep the good work coming. We're doing good so far. But as an old cowboy said....more's better.

Thanks!

by BigDog 2006-05-24 09:01PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

I hate to be callous, because it is just not who I am, but Gary Boatwright is probably the most mean-spirited and petty blogger on Mydd, and that's saying something. He's the first person who will try to attack anyone personally for even using semantics slightly different than himself, much less having different views. Rather than concede a point to anyone, he'll attack someone for how few postings they've had on mydd, as though your point isn't valid until you've posted thousands of crazy rants.

I'm sorry if he's fallen on hard times, as I wouldn't ever wish that on even my worst enemy. Hopefully this community as a whole is more generous than I am.

by mihan 2006-05-25 03:30AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

then why not prove you are the adult by helping him with a little cash?  or do you view his suffering as ample reparations for a comment he may have written months ago?

by illinois062006 2006-05-25 04:32AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

You're not much better, by the way. I have no problem helping people out, as this is a community and helping those in need is a quality that proves we are better than republicans.

However, Gary has earned my indifference by using every posting at every opportunity to attack everyone who disagrees with him even the slightest bit. Not just me, I mean EVERYone. Normally I would help out, but not for him.

by mihan 2006-05-25 05:09AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Mihan:

Either you are a member of the Party that ended the soup lines of the Depression or not.

Either you are a member of the Party that believes in a hand up to those that need it or not.

Either you believe that everyone, even those that you disagree with the worst, need help in a time of need or not.

Either you have a helping hand for your fellow man, whether he/she is to your liking or not.

Perhaps anyone could walk past people of need and not feel the tug at their hearts...whether they can help or not. I can't. In this case we can help.

Gary's obviously trying to get a better track going and his post was upbeat. He's taking this better than me.

by BigDog 2006-05-25 08:13AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

I AM a member of the party that helps people. People that have fallen on hard times. I hate that I started this part of the thread, basically kicking someone when they are down. But, this someone we're talking about is a person I find particularly objectionable, and I have no problem speaking out in a way that I know a lot of people here agree with but wouldn't want to say.

Its like getting slapped in the face over your mere existence, and then handing over cash to the hand that slapped you just because the awful person slapping you has otherwise fallen on hard times.

by mihan 2006-05-25 09:03AM | 0 recs
The shut up

Fine. Don't help the guy out. You've the right to do so.

But stay the hell off the thread asking for help fo him with your aguments about why you and "a lot" of people here think he shouldn't get it.

If you ain't got nothing good to say, don't say it. Especially when the guy needs the help. You're not helping, and actively not helping. You are actually discouraging help. I find that petty and small.

by michael in chicago 2006-05-25 03:30PM | 0 recs
Re: The shut up

thanks, Michael.

by BigDog 2006-05-25 08:39PM | 0 recs
Re: The shut up

What is petty and small is the fact that he's homeless and yet he's on here in this thread defending the flame wars he gets himself into as being justified and fair. I don't buy into forgiveness as much as I do karma. Fuck him, and you as well.

by mihan 2006-05-25 08:45PM | 0 recs
Mihan must mature

You put a ZERO on a comment of mine that talks about Gary? You do realize that has the capability to hide the comment right?

You thought it appropriate to HIDE a comment saying nice things about Gary in someone elses diary calling for help for Gary?

You are behaving like an idiot here my friend.

by Curt Matlock 2006-05-26 05:03AM | 0 recs
Mihan, what the hell man

Mihan , very uncool. Now you look like a hypocrite for bashing Gary when you have engaged in troll rating people like Matlock out of retribution. We troll rate people when they are trying to interrupt the flow of discussion or when they bring up points repeatedly in different threads without responding to the criticism such points receive.

by Pravin 2006-05-26 11:38AM | 0 recs
Re: The shut up

Well, you sure told me.

And you wonder why Boatright flamed you? If you take this tact when you comment I can see why you'd get flamed.

I'd give you a 0, but I'd rather people see this comment so they can see the person arguing against helping Gary, a long time member of this community, because they felt his comments were out of line.

Pot. Meet kettle.

by michael in chicago 2006-05-26 01:57PM | 0 recs
I would not help Cheney

If Cheney lost all his friends and money and was in a desert desperate for a drop of water, I would not even bother pissing on him to hydrate him.

I would also persuade others not to help Cheney. WIth Gary, I may not make the effort to help him as much as someone I like, but I know enough of him to wish him well and won't begrudge him the help he needs from this community.

I dont think mihan was against Gary receiving help.

by Pravin 2006-05-25 09:22AM | 0 recs
Re: I would not help Cheney

I guess being brought up in a different culture, Western, I would approach a Cheney without water differently.

I'd give him the necessary water and see him to safety. Then, when fully recovered, kick the shit out of him.

I believe that everyone deserves help when in trouble. Just my way.....not everyone's.

Each to their own.

by BigDog 2006-05-25 11:14AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

If you treat him with respect, he doesn't attack you. Never been attacked by him myself. Even when I've disagreed with him.

Yet you are taking the opportunity right now to kick him when he's down. You've earned my "indifference."

by michael in chicago 2006-05-25 03:26PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

While I did not choose to pile it on because this is not the time to do so, I would hope Gary would give us a more detailed account on how the system failed him once he gets back on his feet because what I read was confusing. How does one get so unlucky that he loses his job, gets kicked out from sober homes twice for no reason at all, goes on a trip which has him fuming that he wants to sue the travel agent. All of this in such a short time span. Is he that unlucky or does he make himself the victim or a combination of things?

But then again, it is clear Gary does not want to be homeless and the system has to provide for a way for even a difficult person to have the basics. I would like to know how these sober homes work, the criteria, the funding, the conditions.

by Pravin 2006-05-25 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

And what difference does it make TODAY? Are you one that wants to fix the situation or help him get a room for the next week? I'm worried, more than Gary, about getting his car out of impound and him into a place to stay.

Whatever has caused this is beyond our help. That's between Gary and others. He's a smart guy. He'll find a way through.

But honestly, I never hear comments that question 'how' unless they come from someone who has never hit bottom and seen hard time himself.

It isn't as hard as many think to get there. If you are well fixed and confident remember to give thanks every hour of every day as it can go away in a heartbeat...literally.

This isn't about 'how'.  This is about what can we do today to help in some small way as a community to give him the tools he needs to get the car, get the roof, get the job etc.   Nothing more...the rest is up to him.

by BigDog 2006-05-25 08:22AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

These are some of the truest words you could have ever written.  There but for the grace of God....  I sent you a few bucks for Gary yesterday and recommended the diary so it wouldn't get lost.  Good luck to Gary and thanks BigDog.

by Demo Dan in Dayton 2006-05-25 03:25PM | 0 recs
Hi Metonym...

It's very strange to post on month-old diaries, don't you think?  

by NCDem 2006-05-26 07:23AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

it's amazing how few people understand Internet repartee.

You gotta love posters like Gary. Truly free speech is what the Internet is all about (imo) .... the wild wild west of the new millennium.

by misscee 2006-05-25 03:38AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Truly free speech is what the Internet is all about (imo)

Without otherwise dancing on Gary's grave, let me just point out that freedom of speech doesn't convey freedom from negative opinions of others.

by Jay 2006-05-25 03:59AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Did you donate?  Or will you pour salt into the wound by lecturing someone on blog decorum?  By the way, I recommend substituting the word "condone" for "convey."

by illinois062006 2006-05-25 04:33AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

I misread the last sentence.  But convey remains an inapt word for your sentence.  But let us focus the discussion on Gary.  

by illinois062006 2006-05-25 05:09AM | 0 recs
Quite right

After all it is all about me.

by Gary Boatwright 2006-05-25 01:09PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Look, I feel bad about the situation in which Gary finds himself, and I wish him all the best, but KTinTX, Jay and Mihan all make good points. Whenever I deal with Gary, it always ends badly. Anyone of a different political bent is going to eventually get flamed by him. When the facts are against him, he either doesn't acknowledge them or he attacks the poster debating him. No one deserves what he's been through, and again, I wish him all the best, but I raise the bar a little higher than just showing up to the party. How you act and what you say are also important.

by JRyan 2006-05-25 08:06AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

I think his point is more like, if I have some extra cash to spare, I'd rather give it to a displaced Katrina victim as opposed to a guy who has taken every opportunity to call me an asshole.

I think it's great that people are doing what they can to help out their co-blogger but really, if someone doesn't want to give then that's his choice.   Getting into an argument with him over whether he should give really doesn't serve any purpose.

by Steve M 2006-05-25 08:21AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

I want to thank everyone...and I mean everyone...who has contributed. This account will remain open for a few days. I'm not selling anything on ebay so it's easy to keep track!

It's especially important to say Thank You to those of you who dug deep and really gave. While numbers aren't important quality is....and it's the quality that is obvious this morning.

Thanks on behalf of an Ol' Dog and Gary Boatwright.

by BigDog 2006-05-25 08:37AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

If you give a mailing address I could give too. I just got spooked by E-Bay about a year ago, and got rid of it.

by blues 2006-05-25 03:55PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

This isn't Ebay but PayPal WAY different entities.

But if you need one:
76 Flor De Sol
Rancho Santa Margarita,Ca 92688

Hope you respond.

by BigDog 2006-05-25 08:42PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Don't have a heck of a lot to give. But a huge percentage of websters have bolted from paypal (which is run by e-bay). It'll take about a week, since I have to wait for my own meager check. This is darn decent of you, Big Dog!

by blues 2006-05-26 06:51AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

In a good cause....and the ultimate in Internet transparency...:))

The negative comments here amaze me. But each to their own.

by BigDog 2006-05-26 10:31AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Second the thought regarding thanks for doing this.

by michael in chicago 2006-05-26 01:45PM | 0 recs
you are correct, sir!

I dont know how I missed out on the sarcasm. Words like urban camping trip and that when he gets back, he would sue the travel agent(for some reason, i understood it as he already went on a trip and when he got back, he was asked to vacate). Heh heh. My mistake. I was thinking not onlydoes he have problems with the homes, but even with travel agents and every single person he dealt with in that period.

by Pravin 2006-05-25 09:27AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Basically, what Steve M said.

by JRyan 2006-05-25 10:10AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Agreed

by Jay 2006-05-25 12:03PM | 0 recs
My Heartfelt Appreciation

Thanks to all of the well wishers and contributors. I have not had a chance to call Stewart, because last night my cell phone stopped accepting a charge. I went to Radio Shack and bought a new $29 phone and topped it off with $20. The Radio Shack employee programmed it incorrected and it is attempting to link to a Sprint network even though I am a Virgin Mobile customer. Very strange.

Homeless Americans like me are a neglected minority that cuts across all ethnic and social strata. I will be writing some diaries about my experience in the coming weeeks. For now let me say that I saw a brown skinned man pushing a dark skinned woman in a wheel chair through the food line late last night. Elderly white males in wheel chairs are a common sight. I would guess that 25% of homeless Americans have a psychiatric condition that requires psychotropic medication. Yesterday a disoriented woman in her thirties asked me if it was Saturday. Alcohol and drug use are almost as rampant in the homeless community as they are in so called polite society.

If you would like to understand the problems facing homeless Americans allow me to suggest a visit or a short stint as a volunteer at a homeless outreach program.

You get out of life as little or as much as you put into it.

by Gary Boatwright 2006-05-25 01:19PM | 0 recs
Re: My Heartfelt Appreciation

Gary:

When you call there is Cash waiting. We'll get together.

by BigDog 2006-05-25 01:32PM | 0 recs
Ahhh yes...

I can't wait to read all about Gary Boatwright's bout with homelessness...

"Day 18... went to public library again, as I did on days 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1 7... started another flame war... lasted 12 hours... kicked out of the library..."

by NCDem 2006-05-25 02:10PM | 0 recs
Best of luck to you Gary.

by Steve M 2006-05-25 02:57PM | 0 recs
Gary,

Sad is the day when one can't make fun of YOU of all people without getting your comments hidden... If you wouldn't mind, please give bodicea 8 million troll ratings when you get back to the library...

by NCDem 2006-05-26 06:30AM | 0 recs
Gary, Mojo

I myself am enjoying the irony of the fact that I've lost my trusted user status in this diary because I wrote a post in support of Gary. ;)  Mihan didn't like it and didn't like the '1' and the '2' I gave him either.  I guess if you rate someone down you never know when they are gonna snap and start a ratings war so I suppose I've provoked it.

PS. I remember not liking your comment either! Of course, it is invisible to me now so I can't review to see if that was a fair read or not.

by Curt Matlock 2006-05-26 06:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Gary, Mojo

Well... I'll take that as a "please re-post" because I thought it was quite funny...
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I can't wait to read all about Gary Boatwright's bout with homelessness...

"Day 18... went to public library again, as I did on days 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1 7... started another flame war... lasted 12 hours... kicked out of the library..."
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In honor of Gary, won't you join me in rating every post on this thread a "troll"?

by NCDem 2006-05-26 06:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Gary, NCDem

Ok... on second reading it seems a bit mean.  Then again you and Gary have been flaming each other for so long that he might enjoy the ribbing if he could see it. Of course I doubt if he can since it has been zeroed.

by Curt Matlock 2006-05-26 07:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Gary, NCDem

I think the MyDD Blogmasters should get software to show how many times a user has lost (and regained) this "trusted user clearence." At about five times, I might be a contender!

by blues 2006-05-26 07:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Gary, Mojo

You really need to quit your whining. I've fucking had it with your bullshit. I've done little to deserve it and clearly I had expressed remorse that I'd brought myself into talking a guy down when he's clearly got bigger problems. But the truth is, if Gary spent more time finding a job than flaming other people, and writing long-winded rants that don't make any sense, he might not be homeless today. Sue me, dickhead.

by mihan 2006-05-26 06:45AM | 0 recs
THat

was hysterical...

by NCDem 2006-05-26 06:47AM | 0 recs
NCDem - Pot Stirrer

Troublemaker! Is Pan or Loki your idol?

by Curt Matlock 2006-05-26 07:12AM | 0 recs
Re: NCDem - Pot Stirrer

what? it was funny.

by NCDem 2006-05-26 07:15AM | 0 recs
When Gary

gets to the library... and hogs the computer for 8 hours flaming the likes of you... preventing small children from looking up books on the web... he's really gonna kick your ass.

by NCDem 2006-05-26 06:48AM | 0 recs
Re: When Gary

Yeah, you know, it isn't beneath him to expect that, either. The last thing I'd do if I were homeless is spend time on mydd.... careerbuilder.com and monster.com would be more appropriate. I couldn't imagine being at a place in life where I thought it would be more important to run to the library and radio shack and blog rather than spend all my time trying to get out of the situation I was in. Maybe that's part of the problem.

by mihan 2006-05-26 06:54AM | 0 recs
Gary, Mojo, Whiners, Anger, Laughs

Whaaaaa?

<Read as Jon Stewart delivery instead of as a baby cry>

LOL! (I really did chuckle at this reply although maybe not out loud)

I think I see why you had such a hard time with Gary.

by Curt Matlock 2006-05-26 07:10AM | 0 recs
If you had a kid

you'd know that babies don't cry interrogatively, and you wouldn't have had to explain yourself.

(I put a six-syllable word in this post in honor of Metonym-Ph.D.-to-be, who's posting on this thread... I mean... blogging... he considers himself a "blogger").

by NCDem 2006-05-26 07:20AM | 0 recs
wait for it...

wait for it...

by NCDem 2006-05-26 07:22AM | 0 recs
Re: If you had a kid

Well I do have a child but have thankfully learned to tune out that sound now that she's no longer in diapers. In fact, I can't even see baby cries when they are written anymore! They just appear as a puzzling white space on the page to me.

Regarding Metonym. I've seen some good diaries come out lately from him so maybe you are being too hard on him? Or are you determined to re-socialize him single-handedly?

by Curt Matlock 2006-05-26 07:27AM | 0 recs
Re: If you had a kid

I'm not hard on Metonym.  I simply play with him... in a sadistic sort of way... sort of like poking a monkey in a cage and watching it scream with rage... but I'd never poke a monkey, so I get my mild torture-fix by poking Metonym. In addition to the fun I receive, I get a language lesson.

by NCDem 2006-05-26 07:32AM | 0 recs
Monkey Torture

Ya know I was thinking it had to be a mild torture-fix kind of thing for you.

by Curt Matlock 2006-05-26 07:47AM | 0 recs
Mihan being picked on? UNFAIR? - Nope

Mihan,

What I object to most is you handing out zeroes on posts you don't like or on people you don't like. Zeroes HIDE comments are are supposed to be reserved for posts which are truly reprehensible. You pass them out like candy.

So yes, you deserve the crap you are getting because a) you are hiding comments and b) you are being callous. Of course b) is your right but a) is extremely uncool.

by Curt Matlock 2006-05-26 07:40AM | 0 recs
A request

Mihan:

A simple request from someone who has not, to my memory, crossed swords with you and has NEVER troll rated anyone...

Please take this exchange off this thread and into private emails. It is bringing negativity into a potentially positive situtation.

Since I wrote the original diary and started the effort I feel I have the right to make the request. Post a new gmail address if you don't want to use your own and the other side would as well, I'm sure and you two can have all the fun you want.

This Diary isn't about the past, comments, flamewars, personalities or anything but taking principles and putting them into action....even to help someone you don't like. That's the ultimate demonstration of both being principled and compassionate.

In my humble opinion....which may be worth exactly what you paid for it...nothing.

by BigDog 2006-05-26 10:39AM | 0 recs
Maybe campaigns should hire him

What I don't understand is with the overpaid consultants like Bob Shrum and junior Shrums wasting money in this party, why can't a single campaign find space for the likes of Gary who would be more suitable for a position like campaign research and digging up dirt on opponents(I don't mean that as sarcasm, I mean it in all seriousness, everyone has a talent, and his mentality is best suited in such a position more than 9 to 5 job).

Whatever one might think of Gary, he is no dummy and he is singleminded. May not make for a great team member, but I wonder why campaigns in his area won't find a niche for him. This way, he gets paid and adds value to someone's orgaanization.

by Pravin 2006-05-26 08:28PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Gary Boatwright is usually an annoying prick, but  as soon as I deposit my latest paycheck (this afternoon) I'll send some cash your way.

Romans 12:20
Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in doing so, you will heap coals of fire on his head."

GB isn't my enemy but just in case, I hope he lets me know how those burning coals feel. Ah, the Bible, telling you to help others AND get revenge all at once.

by MNPundit 2006-05-26 07:07AM | 0 recs
I thought it went, &quot;If your enemy...

is drowning, throw the son of a bitch an anchor."  James (Carville) 3:27.

Boy, this guy has made his fair share of enemies here, hasn't he?  I wish him luck, but he might want to reflect upon whether his cantankerous personality might require some adjustment; it might have contributed to his current straits.

by lonemorriscodem 2006-05-26 10:39AM | 0 recs
Re: I thought it went, &quot;If your enemy...

If he has 'enemies' here it's in their heart not Gary's.

He's a truly nice person. Hope you see your way clear to helping him get on his feet. Almost people learn from all circumstances and Gary's no dummy.

PS: Helluva an quote to apply to a fellow MyDD'er. This is supposed to be a community.

Of course I could be wrong....

by BigDog 2006-05-26 12:18PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Wow....what a verse...great quote.

by BigDog 2006-05-26 10:39AM | 0 recs
I'll start

just trying to help...

by NCDem 2006-05-26 08:01AM | 0 recs
or was that

a rational troll rating?

by NCDem 2006-05-26 08:30AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP(UPDATE)

Spoke with Gary today 5/26/06. He sounds upbeat. He's getting settled in terms of a storage area for his stuff and other things.

He's got calls out to people that he knows in his business. He'll have his car out of the blasted storage next week and sell it to generate some cash.

He says he knows where he can buy an uglier, older model that will serve him fine and leave some cash on the table.

Anyone interested in a 2003 Hyundai Hatchback, 45,000 miles, $5,500 book? He knows he'll have to make a good deal off that amount.

I wired him cash today and he's very grateful. There's more coming daily or clearing daily. I've had several people contact me privately that are sending checks as they are spooked by PayPal as one of our friends here mentioned.

(Gary and I have agreed that neither of us will discuss amounts, total or individual, as that was between the individual Giver and the Receiver as a matter of Heart and Principle.)

by BigDog 2006-05-26 12:13PM | 0 recs
Jesus Christ...

I'm SURE everything is fine, but Jesus this sounds fishy...

"Donate" to "Garyboatwright" on my anonymous paypal account an anonymous amount and an anonymous amount will be given to ...

I wouldn't give jack shit to you, and I mean that in the nicest of ways.  If Gary Boatwright needs some cash, then Gary Boatwright needs to ask for some cash.  and if Gary Boatwright is too proud to ask for some cash, then YOU need to figure out an appropriate amount to ask for, tell people why you think that's an appropriate amount, tell us if you're close to reaching your goal... and tell us why you chose that goal... What is the goal? To get Gary a meal? To get him 2 months' rent? Buy him a car? Give him a year's salary? This feels slimey...

I'm sorry, but it does.

by NCDem 2006-05-26 01:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Jesus Christ...

Yeah...What anonymous?

You have my account...my home address...both my blogs...do you want my phone number too?

Why set a number that can't be reached? So far we are nowhere near an amount for even a weeks work at any normal job.

Did you think there were Thousands involved? Hell, no. Shit, before I left 325K at a local hospital for 2 heart attacks and spent 3 years in nearly all unpaid political work....I spilled more than we've raised even though some have given deeply.

Bullshit...I'm trying to get Gary as much as possible. Today the money I wired him will last long enough so that the promised checks can get here and hopefully get his car out of hock. That's really the goal.  

I thought I did everyone a favor by telling them today that their solid efforts had seen some daylight. I guess one person had to try and poison that good news.

No one's trying to get Gary a lot of money and sure as hell it isn't going to happen. When my own next check comes in on the 6th I'd add my own personal donation of cash. Until then this is the  best I can do.

And since Gary's presence here on this string seems to bring out the worst in some people I specifically asked him to stay off of MyDD until this was done or petered out or both. I thought his presence would just start more bullshit.

I don't need any bullshit grief for opening my life to every ripoff artist on the Web in an effort to help one guy I know well.

If you want to help...help. If not...not. But don't accuse me of being anything other trying to be helpful. And transparent.

by BigDog 2006-05-26 04:08PM | 0 recs
Seriously...

is it even legal? Is the cash being reported properly as "gift income"? This is such an amazingly sloppy job... seriously

by NCDem 2006-05-26 01:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously...

Who cares....I'm the one who has to account for it as income...period. It's in my accounts,

Jesus....what pain. Get off this thread. Everyone everyone else seems to accept this as an open handed gesture on behalf of the donators and myself except you.

by BigDog 2006-05-26 04:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Seriously...

The recepient of a gift does not have to pay federal taxes on it.  The giver does, but only if the amount of the gift exceeds both their personal lifetime gift/estate amounts, and yearly personal exemption of like $12,000.  I dont know if the state of California includes small gifts as income.  

by Winston Smith 2006-05-26 05:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Jesus Christ...

The donations are anonymous, the amounts raised are unknown, the paypal account MAY be who it says it is... the money PROBABLY is going to Gary Boatwright, Gary Boatwright is PROBABLY in trouble. Gary Boatwright is HOPEFULLY getting the money. Gary Boatwright is HOPEFULLY honest enough to say when (and if) he has "enough" money... and this community's generosity doesn't get taken advantage of... This is a HORRIBLE precedent...

"No amounts will be discussed".  If I donated any amount to this paypal website, I'd damned sure want to know it went to Gary... ALL of it went to GARY... and I'd want to know when Gary Boatwright doesnt need any more money.  This is a GREAT idea, but the carrying-out of this idea is absolutely horrible, and I would demand full accountability for anything like this in the future.  

by NCDem 2006-05-26 01:22PM | 0 recs
I don't know if you were here...

when this community bought Chris a laptop... but he got more than enough dough in a couple of hours, and had to say, "thanks but I don't need any more."  Given this community's past (and fast) generosity, anonymous donations to "Gary Boatwright" via "BigDog" or whateverthefuckhisnameis... this fundraising model has the potential to be REALLY taken advantage of.

by NCDem 2006-05-26 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know if you were here...

My fucking name is Stuart O'Neill. I'm 57 years old and I was brought up to help a person, any person, if I can. I thought that was what Democrats and caring people did without a second thought.

As to identity, if you looked at the PayPal address you'd see my full name. And I can't change the PayPal when this is over...because it is linked to my Ebay sales and other things.

And we've raised less than $350. Yeah, Less than $350. And Gary's posted on this string.

You've got my address...my HOME address so anyone can rip it off. Boy,think doing that online was fun? When's the last time you saw that? Post their personal PayPal account and home address. And I didn't think twice. Until now....

You are way out of line.

Far as I'm concerned...no one has every questioned my honesty on the Internet or in person before...and you owe me an apology.

20,000 people a day and we've raised less than $350. That's what I was trying to avoid saying. I truly like MyDD. That's why when I talked to Gary about this effort he asked it be done here. This was my idea not Gary's. I thought a community reaching out to a member down on his luck was a routine thing to do. In my world it is.

Congratulations and thanks to those who donated. Gary will be grateful for every penny. When those who are sending checks get here and they clear my account I'll get those amounts to him too.

by BigDog 2006-05-26 04:24PM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD'er Boatwright needs our HELP

Actually, flame wars with Gary are kinda fun. You've got to admit, the guy can be creative...

by michael in chicago 2006-05-26 01:52PM | 0 recs
Nowhere

in my comments did I say that this WASN'T an open handed gesture on behalf of the donators... I said that this was a sloppy "model" for raising cash... one that has the potential to be mishandled, misused, or worse...  This fundraising "model" should be a one-shot deal, becuase it flat-out isn't transparent.  I take you at your word that you raised 350 bucks, and I never accused you of being dishonest... though you would have raised more cash had you stated your goal and been transparent from the get-go.  If the reason you didn't want to say how much you raised was because the answer was... "not much"... then you should have asked for more, and stated a reason as to WHY you needed more... not just "GIVE MONEY.  I'M NOT TELLING ANYONE HOW MUCH YOU'RE GIVING, OR HOW MUCH WE NEED... JUST GIVE GIVE GIVE..." Coming from a website that continuously asks its readers for cash for a variety of political (or otherwise) causes, this is the worst handled "ask" I've seen... (though perhaps the one that's the most heartfelt).
So My apology... I'm sorry if you read anything else into my comments.  If you wanted (or still want) to raise more cash in this community, use a tried-and-true format that has worked repeatedly in the past... one with a stated goal and transparency... not simply a "trust me"...

so get over it.

by NCDem 2006-05-26 05:13PM | 0 recs

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