Don't Tell Me You Can, Show Me You WILL

During the course of the Presidential Campaign, we've heard a lot of slogans. And sometimes, it gets tiring just to hear them over and over again. In particular, I've been hearing people chant "Yes, We Can" lately. And every time I see this, I want to answer "Do What?"

So you know what? Let's get beyond silly slogans. Let's not just talk about what our candidates can do, but they WILL do to get our nation back on track.

Follow me after the flip for more...

It's awfully easy for anyone to just say, "Yes we can". But what WILL we do about our  economy in a freefall? What will we do about the climate crisis and energy crunch? What will we do to bring our troops home from Iraq safely and soon? What will we do to ensure everyone has quality, affordable health care?

It's more than just saying "we can". After eight years of Bush-Cheney rule crippling this nation, we need a President who will bring a "Can Do!" spirit back to the White House and begin fixing what Bush broke. We can't just say "we can" get this nation back on track... We need to commit to DOING it! That's why I've actually been inspired by one candidate who doesn't just say she "can" make change happen in this nation, but WILL commit to DOING it.

We have one candidate who has already been making positive change in people's lives since she campaigned for George McGovern deep in the heart of Texas in 1972. We have once candidate who's always been committed to not just talking about universal health care, but working to ensure that everyone has quality, affordable health care. We have one candidate who's committed to ending our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels and to actually doing something about our climate and energy crisis. We have one candidate who doesn't just talk about the importance of women's reproductive health, but takes the lead in protecting it. And yes, we have one candidate who isn't just saying "we can" make "change" on the economy... We have someone who actually has a plan of action to make our economy work for our working people again.

All of these are reasons why Hillary Clinton inspires me. She doesn't give us vague, hackneyed old slogans about how "we can" (again, do what?)... She gives us a plan to action to accomplish the changes we need to help real people. She doesn't just tell me that she "can"... She's showing us now that she WILL get the job done for us! :-)

Tags: Election 2008, Hillary Clinton, presidential election, progressive action (all tags)



Tips? Flames? Suggestions?

You know what to do! :-)

by atdleft 2008-02-18 10:07AM | 0 recs
Yes, we WILL

is a sloagan too.

We have one candidate who has already been making positive change in people's lives since she campaigned for George McGovern deep in the heart of Texas in 1972.

We have two major Democratic candidates who have been making positive change for most of their adult lives.  Now, Obama may not have been campaigning for McGovern in 1972 (he was 11 at the time), but his accomplishments in life are nothing to scoff at.

I would liken the quoted statement to:

"We have one candidate who has already been making positive change in people's lives since he started working as a community organizer helping the voiceless find their voice in neighborhoods ravished by steel plant closing in 1983."

Both statements are true, but their also pretty meaningless.  If you're going to decry "vague, hackneyed old sloagans", then you should also avoid meaningless campaignspeak.

by Meng Bomin 2008-02-18 10:19AM | 0 recs
But that's just it...

I'm not just talking about slogans. I'm talking about what Hillary has actually been DOING. OK, and maybe Obama has also done some good things... So why can't he talk about that? Why can't he offer more specifics on what he means when he talks about "change"? .php?id=27026

by atdleft 2008-02-18 10:28AM | 0 recs
he'll lose pug votes

when he gets specific, or he'll lose dem's if it's more like his insurance idea and his unnecessary ss reform that pugs want.  She's been out there from the first with her plans, her voters know what she'll do and how she'll do it, so she won't lose votes she relied on to win the nom.  

by anna shane 2008-02-18 01:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, we WILL

Just a quibble: You mean ravaged, not ravished. It reads a little bit funny the way it is...

by OrangeFur 2008-02-18 05:12PM | 0 recs
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Yes we plagiarizer in chief.

by owl06 2008-02-18 10:12AM | 0 recs
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that was a slip, i didnt mean to troll/ uprate anyone on this thread

by sepulvedaj3 2008-02-18 10:24AM | 0 recs
Well, then...

Can't you just change it to a "2"? It's not hard to change your comment rating.

by atdleft 2008-02-18 10:25AM | 0 recs
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I think if you don't know either candidates' plans by now, it's b/c you don't want to know, especially if you have internet access.  Their plans are easily available on both their websites for the entire world to see.  

by venavena 2008-02-18 10:13AM | 0 recs
Actually, I do...

And I appreciate that Hillary has original ideas OF HER OWN to offer us, not hackneyed old slogans that don't mean anything.

by atdleft 2008-02-18 10:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Actually, I do...

Great diary.

by durendal 2008-02-18 11:51AM | 0 recs

I'm trying my best, especially since we have a candidate who's giving her best! :-)

by atdleft 2008-02-18 12:02PM | 0 recs
well, that's the thing.

obama throws a lot of words up there, but it's all vague platitudes. hillary's policy proposals are specific, detailed, and contain a plan for how to accomplish them. for example, hers was the only health care plan with complete disclosure of where the money was coming from. obama can't even get his story straight on who gets covered with his.

by campskunk 2008-02-18 10:19AM | 0 recs
he reads great

He's got an old JFK speech writer, no wonder?  

by anna shane 2008-02-18 01:41PM | 0 recs
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This is the best you're going to get from Obama plan-wise: printForChange.pdf

by venavena 2008-02-18 10:24AM | 0 recs
Oh, atdleft, don't you know...

that you're just a stupid, f*cking lazy idiot for not having memorized Obama's policy statements that are available to you 24/7 on his website?

At least that was what I was told by mucho Obamophiles - and the reason I am now not interested in supporting him in thought word or deed.

Remember the video:  name one thing Obama has accomplished (where no Obamaphile could name one)?

How about a new one thing Obama will do if elected president.  Betcha it will get the same blank stares.

by Shazone 2008-02-18 11:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, atdleft, don't you know...

Oh stop with the BS.  To say that neither candidate has a "plan" is disingenuous and ignorant.  It's just that you don't agree with their plan, just be honest enough to say as much, but don't portray it as though you were uninformed.  


by venavena 2008-02-18 12:05PM | 0 recs
I don't think we're uninformed...

In fact, I know A LOT about Obama... I cofounded the local grassroots group for him in my area, and I used to be a big Obama booster. But when I started to see a pattern of words not being matched with actions, I became troubled. You see, he doesn't actually describe what he means by "change" all that often. And with his policy plans, many of them have "borrowed" heavily from Hillary's proposals and Edwards' proposals.

Now maybe Obama may be better at being some "global thinker" who prefers inspiration and "big concepts", but I don't know if that's enough to be President. I also think it helps to be a policy wonk, and I think it helps for a President to be a good manager. That's why I ultimately decided for Hillary. :-)

by atdleft 2008-02-18 02:28PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't think we're uninformed...
Your diary basically says you know nothing about Obama's plans for this country(in reference to him being all rhetoric).  It's not that you don't know or that he doesn't have a plan, it's just that you don't agree with it.  Nothing wrong with that.
by venavena 2008-02-18 03:29PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't think we're uninformed...

My problems with Obama are primarily due to what I know about his stance on issues. His environmental proposals included corn-based ethanol and liquid coal until I guess someone told him just how poorly environmentalists would regard such things. He has three economic advisors from the U. of Chicago, and at least one of them has proposed partially privatizing social security. he's used right-wing talking points on social security, health care and the Clintons. I admired his anti-war stance but that was based on one speech before he was elected to the Senate. Nothing he's done since then is any different from HRC's record.

I like that he has Samantha Powers advising him on foreign affairs.

I am really disgusted by the sexist rhetoric (yeah it's there) and even more so by his silence on that. And the hypocrisy of claiming race-baiting while sending his surrogates to, well,  race-bait.

And the whole superdelegate thing is absurd.

So, yeah, I'll vote for him if he's the nominee. But I feel utterly disenfranchised by his campaign so far. "Yes we can" ain't cutting it.

by OtherLisa 2008-02-18 05:42PM | 0 recs
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Go to Obama's Home Page.  Then try to find something specific about what his stance on Roe v Wade will be in the Year 2009 should he become President.  As far as I'm concerned, there is nothing there - and I'm not reassured.  I'm to the point where I need to see a direct quote from him - or to hear him actually say it.  Maybe at Thursday's debate.

by cameoanne 2008-02-18 02:57PM | 0 recs
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Seriously, like 12 seconds.

by HEAP 2008-02-18 03:53PM | 0 recs
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Thanks.  I guess I'm wondering why it is not listed under "Issues" positions.

by cameoanne 2008-02-18 04:00PM | 0 recs
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by cameoanne 2008-04-14 07:41AM | 0 recs
Thanks, Undies!

That's a real complement coming from you, as I ALWAYS appreciate your diaries here. And yes, I felt I needed to do some speaking from the heart today. I'm getting tired of all the sloganeering going on right now, and I want real answers. That's why I'm glad to see Hillary actually providing some. :-)

by atdleft 2008-02-18 10:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks, Undies!

I heartily concur.  Indies, i love your spirit and your diaries. And, Andrew, you know I think the world of your diaries, your writing ability, and your positive attitude.

We desperately need a president who's savvy about the ways of Washington, DC -- won't have to spend two to four years learning just how stubborn and nasty the Republicans will be.  He has spent so little time in the U.S. Senate, and there he hasn't done very much -- I must mention his Subchairmanship of the European Affairs committee for the Foreign Relations committee -- that subchair includes NATO (!) -- and he's done nothing.  Not even a hearing.  Steve Clemons, as fair and decent a person as you can find, tried and tried and tried to get a record of any visits by Obama to European capitals or NATO.  Nada.  Steve said that Obama's Senate office could just give him Obama's passport record, and that would make it clear, but they never responded beyond vague statements that, yes, he'd been to Europe (like for a night enroute to another trip).

He may make an excellent president someday.  But he needs to work more, and learn more.

by susanhu 2008-02-18 10:52AM | 0 recs
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To this I can say YES! Straight to the point, way to go! No more nonesense, no more rhetoric. I want an action plan and a fighter and those I get in Hillary. Yes, I do!

by forhill 2008-02-18 10:22AM | 0 recs
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Hillay4U&Me !

Best video on youtube.

Nothing gets me more pumped for Hill that that video!

by MGarvey 2008-02-18 10:26AM | 0 recs
how snobby can you get?

You all keep hammering that video that some poor souls put together to support their candidate- way to encourage involvement.  I guess not everyone is as perfect as Obama and his most perfect supports who are always right and perfect when they are being perfect, which is always.

by linc 2008-02-18 10:55AM | 0 recs
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One other reason that I like her so much is that she never gives up.


by JoeySky18 2008-02-18 10:58AM | 0 recs
Here's something he'll do...

He will ban handguns.

Then he will void the handgun ban and allow one purchase per month.

How's that?

by Shazone 2008-02-18 11:09AM | 0 recs
Yesterday I asked a commenter...

(who claimed that Obama got economic concerns and had plans to deal with them) to explain to me what Obama "got" with regard to the economy and what Obama will do because of that economy.

I asked with complete sincerity.  And got no reply.

I.  Think.  I.  Know.  Why!!!!

by Shazone 2008-02-18 11:17AM | 0 recs
And that's the problem with him...

Seriously, I used to be a BIG Obama fan. And if he's the nominee, I'll suck up my pride and become his biggest fan again. But that's just it... I'd like to support Obama because I know what he stands for. But as long as he continue with vague slogans and "blueprints for change" that look like they've been copied and pasted from the DLC site or some David Broder column, I don't know what to say.

Meanwhile, I wholeheartedly support Hillary now because I know EXACTLY what she stands for. I know she wants universal health care, and I know her plan for the economy, and I know what's in her energy plan. And frankly, I LOVE the fact that she's not afraid to show her inner policy wonk. That shows me right there that she really does care about all of us, and she wants to know the best way to bring about the best solutions for this nation. :-)

by atdleft 2008-02-18 11:23AM | 0 recs
I adore her wonkishness.

I've always said she was smarter than Bill.  And she can drag up the nuts and bolts in a flash.  Truly amazing.

Especially since we've had a moron for the past 8 years!

by Shazone 2008-02-18 11:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Don't Tell Me You Can, Show Me You WILL

I was leaning pretty heavy in that direction until Dec. of '07, too. Fine diary.

by durendal 2008-02-18 12:02PM | 0 recs
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Hillary is Commander in Chief. She's the only candidate experienced enough to command the most potent army in the world, maintain our national security, and get us out of Iraq. We are a nation at war, and we need an experienced and strong president  to reestablish our moral, environmental and economic leadership in the world.

by seattlegonz 2008-02-18 12:40PM | 0 recs
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Obama in 2016, after Hillary properly schools him.

by mmorang 2008-02-18 01:27PM | 0 recs
Do What?

A. Expand health care coverage, bring the troops home from Iraq, end our dependency on foreign oil.


Why do Clinton supporters on the internet insist on pretending that doesn't exist and doesn't have any substantive plans for the issues? It's irritating. You want to argue about the fine points of the issues, let's do that. But instead you want to make believe that there are no issues or fine points to discuss. It's just the same old "he's all hype, no specifics" argument. Boooooring.

by Jumbo 2008-02-18 02:27PM | 0 recs

Hmmm, so are you saying it's boring to discuss the policy details that may actually make a difference in people's lives? And yes, I have seen Obama's campaign site. And yes, I still find it lacking. If there is any detail on his policy plans, it's detail that looks eerily familiar to what Edwards offered and what Hillary offers. I just don't see much in terms of new ideas of his own.

And if you want to get into specifics, here 'ya go:

- His health care plan isn't universal, and leaves 15 million uninsured.

- His energy plan leaves the door wide open for dirty coal & nuclear power.

- His Iraq plan isn't any different from Hillary's.

So what again were you saying?

by atdleft 2008-02-18 02:32PM | 0 recs
What I am saying

I'll say it again:

It's just the same old "he's all hype, no specifics" argument. Boooooring.

Repeating: "he's all hype with no specifics" is the boring part. Not discussing the issues. Discussing the issues is great and I'd like to see more of it. Instead of constantly harping about the supposed vapidity of Obama's speeches. Get it? Do we need to go over it one more time?

Now, please explain how his energy plan leaves the door wide open for dirty coal & nuclear power. I went skiing next to Three Mile Island as a kid so I'm not that freaked out by nuclear energy. And I get that his Iraq plan isn't different from Hillary's, but what about her Iran plan? How do I know she's not going to pull the troops out of Iraq just so she can stick them some other place they don't belong?

by Jumbo 2008-02-18 03:30PM | 0 recs
Ummm, NO...

Hillary doesn't seek to invade Iran. And actually, Hillary's cosponsored legislation with Jim Webb to forbid any use of funds for military action on Iran. What has Obama done?

And regarding energy, Hillary's plan doesn't give any money to coal & nuclear so long as there's way to lower emissions and deal with pollution. Obama's plan, OTOH, leaves more wiggle room for coal & nuclear. And despite all the hype about nuclear power being "clean", it's really just as dirty as coal or oil since it takes ENERGY to split atoms to supposedly generate energy.

So do you have more questions? I can answer them. Since actually has PLENTY of details on Hillary's policy positions, it's easy to find answers. :-)

by atdleft 2008-02-18 04:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Ummm, NO...

And don't forget his earlier support of corn-based ethanol, which is bad on soooo many levels (inefficient, increases global warming, raises food prices and severely impacts the worlds' poorest people) that I have to wonder if he'd ever really thought about the issue before.

by OtherLisa 2008-02-19 08:27AM | 0 recs
mainly because

he doesn't explain in words to those who he's asking votes.  We can also read his book, no, if we want to know anything, he can say it's in his book.  When you speak you get questions and you can debate differences.  That's the difference, and that some voters won't have the resources or the time to go through his page and figure out what it means. Reagan was the 'communicator,' no, I'd like him to communicate?  Is that one too hard to understand?  Maybe I should sign up for a seminar?  

by anna shane 2008-02-18 03:06PM | 0 recs

"Reagan was the 'communicator,' no, I'd like him to communicate?"

I don't understand that line. What does that mean?

by Jumbo 2008-02-18 03:31PM | 0 recs
Here's what it means...

Ronald Reagan was supposedly the "Great Communicator", but he never really communicated his true agenda to the people. He was great at reading lines and playing roles, but he never actually communicated his policy plans to us. That's what Anna meant. And while no one here's saying Obama's just like Reagan, it is kinda disturbing how he also avoids discussing real policy.

by atdleft 2008-02-18 04:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Here's what it means...

Ronald Reagan won two terms in office and is the godfather of the modern conservative movement. I'm supposed to be freaked out by the idea of a liberal version of Reagan? That's supposed to concern me?

by Jumbo 2008-02-19 03:48PM | 0 recs
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"yes we can"

"Can what?"

I would part good money if this were on a tshirt.

Lately it feels like this applies to all political candidates.

None of them what to just come out and say what they think.

And then

stick to it.

I have enjoyed reading piece very much.

Gives one things to think about.

by 12 dogs and a blog 2008-02-24 11:08AM | 0 recs


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