Reid fights back, shuts down Senate over Iraq War *right now*

From the diaries--Chris

Ug. I HATE breaking news diaries but I just had to share.  Harry Reid has just, in most dramatic fashion, shut down the Senate.

Why?  Because the Senate GOP leadership refuses to follow up and finish part two of the Iraq investigation.  He invoked an old Senate rule that put the Senate in closed session.  Here is Reid's statement:

Washington , D.C. - Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid delivered the following statement on the floor of the U.S. Senate calling for a secret session of the Senate.

Remarks as prepared:

"This past weekend, we witnessed the indictment of I. Lewis Libby, the Vice President's Chief of Staff and a senior Advisor to President Bush. Libby is the first sitting White House staffer to be indicted in 135 years.

"This indictment raises very serious charges. It asserts this Administration engaged in actions that both harmed our national security and are morally repugnant.

"The decision to place U.S. soldiers in harm's way is the most significant responsibility the Constitution invests in the Congress.

"The Libby indictment provides a window into what this is really about: how the Administration manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to sell the war in Iraq and attempted to destroy those who dared to challenge its actions.

"As a result of its improper conduct, a cloud now hangs over this Administration. This cloud is further darkened by the Administration's mistakes in prisoner abuse scandal, Hurricane Katrina, and the cronyism and corruption in numerous agencies.

"And, unfortunately, it must be said that a cloud also hangs over this Republican-controlled Congress for its unwillingness to hold this Republican Administration accountable for its misdeeds on all of these issues.

"Let's take a look back at how we got here with respect to Iraq Mr. President. The record will show that within hours of the terrorist attacks on 9/11, senior officials in this Administration recognized these attacks could be used as a pretext to invade Iraq.

"The record will also show that in the months and years after 9/11, the Administration engaged in a pattern of manipulation of the facts and retribution against anyone who got in its way as it made the case for attacking Iraq.

"There are numerous examples of how the Administration misstated and manipulated the facts as it made the case for war. Administration statements on Saddam's alleged nuclear weapons capabilities and ties with Al Qaeda represent the best examples of how it consistently and repeatedly manipulated the facts.

"The American people were warned time and again by the President, the Vice President, and the current Secretary of State about Saddam's nuclear weapons capabilities. The Vice President said Iraq "has reconstituted its nuclear weapons." Playing upon the fears of Americans after September 11, these officials and others raised the specter that, left unchecked, Saddam could soon attack America with nuclear weapons.

"Obviously we know now their nuclear claims were wholly inaccurate. But more troubling is the fact that a lot of intelligence experts were telling the Administration then that its claims about Saddam's nuclear capabilities were false.

"The situation was very similar with respect to Saddam's links to Al Qaeda. The Vice President told the American people, "We know he's out trying once again to produce nuclear weapons and we know he has a longstanding relationship with various terrorist groups including the Al Qaeda organization."

"The Administration's assertions on this score have been totally discredited. But again, the Administration went ahead with these assertions in spite of the fact that the government's top experts did not agree with these claims.

"What has been the response of this Republican-controlled Congress to the Administration's manipulation of intelligence that led to this protracted war in Iraq? Basically nothing. Did the Republican-controlled Congress carry out its constitutional obligations to conduct oversight? No. Did it support our troops and their families by providing them the answers to many important questions? No. Did it even attempt to force this Administration to answer the most basic questions about its behavior? No.

"Unfortunately the unwillingness of the Republican-controlled Congress to exercise its oversight responsibilities is not limited to just Iraq. We see it with respect to the prisoner abuse scandal. We see it with respect to Katrina. And we see it with respect to the cronyism and corruption that permeates this Administration.

"Time and time again, this Republican-controlled Congress has consistently chosen to put its political interests ahead of our national security. They have repeatedly chosen to protect the Republican Administration rather than get to the bottom of what happened and why.

"There is also another disturbing pattern here, namely about how the Administration responded to those who challenged its assertions. Time and again this Administration has actively sought to attack and undercut those who dared to raise questions about its preferred course.

"For example, when General Shinseki indicated several hundred thousand troops would be needed in Iraq, his military career came to an end. When then OMB Director Larry Lindsay suggested the cost of this war would approach $200 billion, his career in the Administration came to an end. When U.N. Chief Weapons Inspector Hans Blix challenged conclusions about Saddam's WMD capabilities, the Administration pulled out his inspectors. When Nobel Prize winner and IAEA head Mohammed el-Baridei raised questions about the Administration's claims of Saddam's nuclear capabilities, the Administration attempted to remove him from his post. When Joe Wilson stated that there was no attempt by Saddam to acquire uranium from Niger, the Administration launched a vicious and coordinated campaign to demean and discredit him, going so far as to expose the fact that his wife worked as a CIA agent.

"Given this Administration's pattern of squashing those who challenge its misstatements, what has been the response of this Republican-controlled Congress? Again, absolutely nothing. And with their inactions, they provide political cover for this Administration at the same time they keep the truth from our troops who continue to make large sacrifices in Iraq.

"This behavior is unacceptable. The toll in Iraq is as staggering as it is solemn. More than 2,000 Americans have lost their lives. Over 90 Americans have paid the ultimate sacrifice this month alone - the fourth deadliest month since the war began. More than 15,000 have been wounded. More than 150,000 remain in harm's way. Enormous sacrifices have been and continue to be made.

"The troops and the American people have a right to expect answers and accountability worthy of that sacrifice. For example, 40 Senate Democrats wrote a substantive and detailed letter to the President asking four basic questions about the Administration's Iraq policy and received a four sentence answer in response. These Senators and the American people deserve better.

"They also deserve a searching and comprehensive investigation about how the Bush Administration brought this country to war. Key questions that need to be answered include:

  • How did the Bush Administration assemble its case for war against Iraq?
  • Who did Bush Administration officials listen to and who did they ignore?
  • How did senior Administration officials manipulate or manufacture intelligence presented to the Congress and the American people?
  • What was the role of the White House Iraq Group or WHIG, a group of senior White House officials tasked with marketing the war and taking down its critics?
  • How did the Administration coordinate its efforts to attack individuals who dared to challenge the Administration's assertions?
  • Why has the Administration failed to provide Congress with the documents that will shed light on their misconduct and misstatements?

"Unfortunately the Senate committee that should be taking the lead in providing these answers is not. Despite the fact that the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee publicly committed to examine many of these questions more than 1 and ½ years ago, he has chosen not to keep this commitment. Despite the fact that he restated that commitment earlier this year on national television, he has still done nothing.

"At this point, we can only conclude he will continue to put politics ahead of our national security. If he does anything at this point, I suspect he will play political games by producing an analysis that fails to answer any of these important questions. Instead, if history is any guide, this analysis will attempt to disperse and deflect blame away from the Administration.

"We demand that the Intelligence Committee and other committees in this body with jurisdiction over these matters carry out a full and complete investigation immediately as called for by Democrats in the committee's annual intelligence authorization report. Our troops and the American people have sacrificed too much. It is time this Republican-controlled Congress put the interests of the American people ahead of their own political interests."

Senator Frist just called the move by Reid "a slap in the face" of the Republican leadership on CNN.  This email I received pretty much sums up what's happening at the moment:

The Republicans are clutching their pearls and wringing their little white hankies about Reid "stabbing them in the back" because he had the temerity to demand that they follow through on the second phase of the Iraq investigation. He used an arcane rule to dramatically call for a secret session and the GOP is passing out with the vapors because of all the terrible "incivility."

Heh. They wanted to change the subject. Ain't gonna happen.

Good for Reid. This is what an opposition party does. I hope the Dems hang tough all the way.

The Democrats have officially revolted.  The American people are going to be trying to understand what is going on. We need to help them.  The Democrats are stopping the normal business of the Senate because the national security mistakes of the Bush administration in Iraq and the CIA Leak have made us less safe. Or the short version, Democrats are stopping business as usual to make America safe.

Give 'em hell, Harry!  

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Statement from Sen. Rockefeller (D-WV)
This is amazing.  I swear, I think the Senate Dems found their backbone.

"At its core, this is about accountability -- Congressional accountability and White House accountability.

"Congress has a fundamental, constitutional responsibility to conduct oversight - that's what checks and balances are all about - and we have utterly failed.

"My colleagues and I have tried for two years to do our oversight work, and for two years we have been undermined, avoided, put off, and vilified by the other side.  Any line of questioning that has brought us too close to the White House has been thwarted.

"At some point the majority needs to understand that we are willing to bring the Senate to a halt until they will join us in conducting the kind of investigation this situation demands.

"The American people still want to know - now more than ever - why the United States went to war, whether they were misled, and whether our intelligence was misused.

"Whether these actions amount to crimes is not the litmus test for congressional oversight.  Mr. Fitzgerald is investigating possible criminal activity by senior White House officials, and we won't and shouldn't get in the way of his work.

"But the American people deserve to know not just whether this Administration committed crimes, but whether this Administration told the truth - the full truth, the straight story.

"And if they didn't - if they misled about the war and if they misused intelligence, then the American people need to know that the Congress will do everything in its power the make sure that it never happens again."

by annatopia 2005-11-01 10:49AM | 0 recs
cable news?
is anyone watching cable right now?  i don't have access to a tv at this location, so i'd be real interested to know how the punditocracy is spinning this.
by annatopia 2005-11-01 10:55AM | 0 recs
Re: cable news?
cable news is disgusting!  all of the shills came out in full force appalled at the democrats for not showing the repugs courtesy and asking for the closed session.  Yeah right!

More shills for the repugs on cable, including the female anchors interviewing Nora O'Donnell, who loves bush, not too many being interviewed from the dems side so far.

by HWS 2005-11-01 12:07PM | 0 recs
Don't worry
This works in the Dems favor.  For so long, people have said we have no backbone.  This proves otherwise.  Let them say Dems were acting like jerks.  At least it challenges that Dems don't stand for anything
by exLogCabin 2005-11-01 12:42PM | 0 recs
via email, cafferty rocks and rolls

Cafferty on questions about whether we were led into war, roughly:

"...If we were lied to, if we were misled, we ought to find the person or people behind it and tear their fingernails out."

by annatopia 2005-11-01 10:58AM | 0 recs
two thread on Dkos
story only links

the front pager about the senate session

live thread, the good stuff is in the comments

but Dkos is loading slower than molasses right now, so good luck there.  

by annatopia 2005-11-01 11:00AM | 0 recs
ha! You're too quick for me anna
That's just what i was going to write to you about. CSPAN just has reporters milling about outside the closed door session.
by HE 2005-11-01 11:01AM | 0 recs
Give 'em HELL HARRY!!

There are consequences to actions like this.

Serious consequences.

About fifty of them. All lined up and ready to go.

I'm breaking out my wallet and giving to the democratic party today. I have never ever doubted from day one that Reid was a better leader than  any I can remember in my lifetime. I am voting with my pocketbook today.

Give 'em hell, harry!
I don't want a fight, I want justice. I want the kind of calm and orderly work the senate is known for.

Reid's actions today, are no different than I would be with my four year old when he reaches around the back of the fridge to play with the industrial electrical outlet. In no uncertain terms I would tell the nipper exactly what is going to happen next.

If we could all just understand that what Reid is doing may very well save our country, then we'd be much better off. We need this to be about simple justice, simple decency.  No more spectacles. Just good old fashioned straight talk.

I don't think Harry is alone..

by turnerbroadcasting 2005-11-01 11:01AM | 0 recs
Schumer
just said that the Dems will invoke this rule every day until Phase 2 begins.  
by annatopia 2005-11-01 11:06AM | 0 recs
CORRECTION
dangit, it was not schumer, it was Dick Durbin.  quote:  "We're serving notice on [the majority] at this moment, be prepared for this motion everyday until you face the reality."
by annatopia 2005-11-01 11:07AM | 0 recs
Re: CORRECTION
yeah Schumer supports the Iraq war because he's an AIPAC whore.  
by dayspring 2005-11-01 11:18AM | 0 recs
Re: CORRECTION
Two things...

  1. To this point, I had considered Sen. Reid to be doing a solid job as Democratic Minority leader. I really thought he was a good, tough leader. After today, I think he is amazing. Lets remember, the guy used to be a boxer, he's tough as nails and he just put the GOP on notice.
  2. Yeah Dick Durbin! I worked for Durbin over the summer, I couldnt be prouder of that, he's a great guy, a great leader, and a great liberal.
by AC4508 2005-11-01 08:24PM | 0 recs
A building curiosity..
I am starting to wonder what its like to be a democrat, frankly speaking. IF there are people like this in the party people like me don't have to be independent.

What is it like, really, to be a democrat? Is anyone here that has been there for more than 10 yrs?

by turnerbroadcasting 2005-11-01 11:07AM | 0 recs
Yea. I've been there since I was born.
At 37 I can tell you that the real fighting Dems (that we may be seeing some of right now) are the ones who stand up for the little guy in a world that's being sucked into a void of greedy people who think that now is the time to get what you can while the gettin' is good.

You'll hear more about that in the movie when it's done.

by HE 2005-11-01 11:24AM | 0 recs
Let's give
Let's show our support to Harry Reid and our fellow Dem Senators and give some cash to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. I set up an Actblue fundraising page at..

http://www.actblue.com/list/Win+in+2006

We need to show our support!!! Good idea???

by BryanRI 2005-11-01 11:10AM | 0 recs
From the Washington Note
a great explanation of what's going on here:

The reason that Reid and Durbin have maneuvered the Senate into executive session is that Senator Pat Roberts, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, has failed to move forward on "Phase Two" of a report on the use and abuse of Iraq WMD intelligence before the war. While the first phase focused on the CIA and intelligence bureaucracy's missteps on WMD intel, the second phase is supposed to focus more specifically on those in the White House and close to the President in the executive branch and how Iraq-related WMD intelligence may have been misused.

Senator Roberts has delayed and delayed and delayed. And Reid said no more.

But the other stroke of political genius here is that while Senator Frist is spitting on Reid and the Democrats, Reid has just successfully focused the spotlight BACK on Iraq, back on intelligence abuses, back on Patrick Fitzgerald and the Libby indictment.

Reid was ticked off after having had no consultation with the President regarding the nomination of Judge Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court.

Harry Reid, giving NO NOTICE to Senator Frist, has just kicked the Republican leadership and the White House in the rear -- and has done the nation a great service by making sure that our public attention is still focused on the mismanagement and serious abuses of the national security circumstances of the United States.

link here

by annatopia 2005-11-01 11:11AM | 0 recs
Re: From the Washington Note
It should also give them a taste of what will happen if they get rid of the filibuster. Frist just found out Reid has balls.  Apparently Frist has them too, he was just kicked in them.
by jrflorida 2005-11-01 12:11PM | 0 recs
What else they're claiming...
How about this one:

"Once again, it shows the Democrats use scare tactics. They have no conviction. They have no principles. They have no ideas," Frist said.

Yeah right!  Isn't it the Republicans that have been party to Plame-gate, the deceptions to sell the war on Iraq, etc. etc., etc.??!!!  (That particular list goes ever on, sadly.)

Show me a Republican who can recognize an honest principle if it bites him, and I'll show you a true minority-of-one Republican!

by tive 2005-11-01 11:16AM | 0 recs
Re: What else they're claiming...
Scare tactics?  Like the current focus/attempted diversion on the pending PANDEMIC!
by jrflorida 2005-11-01 12:12PM | 0 recs
It's a start
I'm glad to see the "opposition" FINALLY showing the embryonic beginnings of a spinal cord. But it is only a beginning. Unless they keep this up WITH RESOLVE AND UNITY AND PURPOSE, until they call for impeachment, it will prove nothing. Until then, my check book will remain closed.
by samdinista 2005-11-01 11:18AM | 0 recs
Feingold statement
just got this via email:

"I applaud Senator Reid's effort to focus the Senate on what should be our top priority - our country's national security.  I voted against the Iraq war because I was concerned it would become a dangerous diversion from the need to keep Americans safe from terrorism.   The war has become all of that and worse and that's why I have proposed a flexible target date of December 2006 for an end to our primary military mission in Iraq.  This Administration's policy has made our country weaker militarily and economically, and it has emboldened and fostered the terrorist networks that threaten us.

Debating our nation's security in closed session does not undermine consideration of the pending reconciliation bill, as some Republicans have tried to argue.  Even if Democrats wanted to, they could not prevent the measure from coming to a vote.  Far from obstructing the Senate's business, Democrats are advancing it.  Senator Reid has finally succeeded in overcoming the real obstruction we have seen in the Senate, namely thwarting efforts to get a complete and truthful accounting of the Administration's activities in their rush to war.

We owe nothing less to our men and women in uniform who have been asked to put their lives on the line in Iraq, and to the American people who are paying for this endeavor.   Until there is such an accounting, the American people will have every reason to question the credibility of Congress and the White House."

by annatopia 2005-11-01 11:21AM | 0 recs
Scare tactics?!
"Once again, it shows the Democrats use scare tactics. They have no conviction. They have no principles. They have no ideas," Frist said.

Excuse me, Fristie!   Scare tactics?!  Who is threatening something called the "nuclear option?"!!

Loser!!

by djhwood 2005-11-01 11:30AM | 0 recs
loser?
nah, HYPOCRITE.
by annatopia 2005-11-01 11:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Scare tactics?!
It also seems a little much for stem-cell-flopper Frist to go around telling others that they lack conviction and principles.
by JRyan 2005-11-01 11:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Scare tactics?!
Heh....but he is funny to watch when he's mad.
by zootsuit 2005-11-01 12:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Scare tactics?!
This was the real NUCLEAR OPTION. As much as we've doubted Harry Reid he just ditched the Fabian tactics for the counter-strike. The wheels are spinning like mad among the Republicans....
by risenmessiah 2005-11-01 07:49PM | 0 recs
why this came to a head today
via email:

Democratic Efforts to Address Misuse of Intelligence Have Been Repeatedly Blocked by Republicans

For more than two years, Senate Democrats have pressed Republicans to address the misuse of intelligence.  At every turn, Republicans have blocked efforts to investigate how intelligence was used in the run-up to the war in Iraq. Below details the long record established by Democrats to investigate this matter.

March 14, 2003 - Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Director Mueller requesting an investigation into the origin of the Niger documents.

May 23, 2003 - Senators Roberts and Rockefeller sent a letter to the CIA and State Department Inspectors General to review issues related to the Niger documents.

June 2, 2003 - Senator Rockefeller issued a press release endorsing a statement made of the previous weekend by Senator Warner calling for a joint SSCI/SASC investigation.

June 4, 2003 - Senator Rockefeller issued a press release saying he would push for an investigation.  Senator Roberts issued a press release saying calls for an investigation are premature.

June 10, 2003 - Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Senator Roberts asking for an investigation.

June 11, 2003 - All Committee Democrats signed a letter to Senator Roberts asking for a meeting of the Committee to discuss the question of authorizing an inquiry into the intelligence that formed the basis for going to war.

June 11, 2003 - Senator Roberts issued a press release saying this is routine committee oversight, and that criticism of the intelligence community is unwarranted.  Senator Rockefeller issued a press release calling the ongoing review inadequate.

June 20, 2003 - Senators Roberts and Rockefeller issued a joint press release laying out the scope of the inquiry.

August 13, 2003 - Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Senator Roberts making 14 points about the investigation, asking to expand the inquiry to address the "use of intelligence by policy makers" and asking for several other actions.

September 9, 2003 - After press reports quoting Senator Roberts as saying the investigation was almost over, Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Senator Roberts urging him not to rush to complete the investigation prematurely.

October 29, 2003 - Senators Roberts and Rockefeller sent a letter to Director Tenet expressing in strong terms that he should provide documents that have been requested and make individuals available.

October 30, 2003 - Senators Roberts and Rockefeller sent letters to Secretaries Rumsfeld and Powell, and National Security Advisor Rice expressing in strong terms that they should provide documents that have been requested and make individuals available.

October 31, 2003 - Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Director Tenet asking for documents related to the interaction between intelligence and policy makers, including the documents from the Vice President's office related to the Powell speech.

November 2, 2003 - Senator Roberts made statements during a joint television appearance with Senator Rockefeller claiming that the White house would provide all documents they jointly requested.

December 5, 2003 - Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to National Security Advisor Rice asking for her help getting documents and access to individuals.

January 22, 2004 - Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Director Tenet asking for compliance with the Oct. 31 request for documents.

February 12, 2004 - Senators Roberts and Rockefeller issued a joint press release announcing the Committee's unanimous approval of the expansion of the Iraq review, to include use of intelligence in the form of public statements, and listing other aspects of what became Phase II.

March 23, 2004 - Senator Rockefeller sent yet another letter to Director Tenet asking for compliance with the Oct. 31 request for documents.

June 17, 2004 - Senators Roberts and Rockefeller joint press release announcing the unanimous approval of the report.

July 16, 2004 - Committee Democrats sent a letter to Bush asking for the one page summary of the NIE prepared for Bush.  The Committee staff had been allowed to review it but could not take notes and the Committee was never given a copy.

February 3, 2005 - Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Senator Roberts outlining Committee priorities for the coming year and encouraging completion of Phase II.

August 5, 2005 - Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Senator Roberts expressing concern over the lack of progress on Phase II and calling for a draft to be presented to the Committee at a business meeting in September.

September 29, 2005 - All Committee Democrats joined in additional views to the annual Intelligence Authorization Bill criticizing the lack of progress on Phase II.

by annatopia 2005-11-01 11:38AM | 0 recs
WOW.
CNN is blasting this all over the airwaves with live coverage. I just saw it on our breakroom TV, that's how I found out about it.

I ran over to dKos to get the scoop and dKos was DOWN, locked, blown out.

Senator Reid's web-email-form is locked up too.

This is big, big, big. I think it's one of those pivot points in history-- especially if the Dems keep their spines and do this every day as promised above.

by ItsBeenCalmingForSomeTime 2005-11-01 12:05PM | 0 recs
OK, Kos came back up.
And I was able to get through on Sen. Reid's web form.
by ItsBeenCalmingForSomeTime 2005-11-01 12:10PM | 0 recs
Don't Stop Here!
Finally a leader with some balls. Now let's see who else among the Democratic Senators and Representitives can turn things up another notch.
by blogus 2005-11-01 12:08PM | 0 recs
It gives me goose bumps
Wouldn't it be glorious if they just fired the opening shot to the battle against this administration that leads to the eventual downfall of King George.  Wouldn't it be great if every single day is just like this.  It appears the Dems just found out how to get the media off of the administrations desired focus.  Right now they want America focused on the nomination and on the flyu pandemic instead of on Cheney and Co and little boy Karl.  The press would be all over the President and this pandemic speach.  Well that and the nomination.  Now I wonder what will be the lead story on the news tonight.
by jrflorida 2005-11-01 12:18PM | 0 recs
Phone calls
I called Sen. Harry Reid's Reno office to offer my thanks.  I also called Sen. "insider trading" Frist, Sen. "righteous" Rick Santorum, and my Ohio GOP Senators Dewine and Voinovich, and told them I supported Sen. Reid because it is time we knew about the intelligence that led to the war.

Frist said this was all a slap in the face.  What about all those families that have lost and continue to lose loved ones in Iraq?  How do they feel?  Who cares about Frist's pride?  

by Marie Smith 2005-11-01 12:26PM | 0 recs
I know about 2,100 Americans who want to know if
we were mislead about the WMDs.

Unfortunately, they are all dead.

The Democratic Party of these United States   owes every Iraqi War veteran alive and dead the nuts to fight this one out.  

No Retreat or Surrender. Period.

And if the Dems bitch out on this one, I am registering Independent.

If they go the nine, I am joining the Democratic Party of Baltimore County.

by Bruticus 2005-11-01 12:34PM | 0 recs
what to feel
Right now I have that some feeling in my gut that I felt in 2003, when the Red Sox were 5 outs from finally beating the Yankees.  That didn't work out so well.  But then again, I had the same feeling the very next year entering game 7, and the Sox came out on top.  In other words, I'm either going to look back on this and be elated or depressed.  When will know if this 'worked,' with 'worked' defined as swaying public opinion?  A week?
by alydar 2005-11-01 12:35PM | 0 recs
Give Em Hell!
This is exactly what we've needed to reenergize OUR base. They've been waiting for action, and Harry Reid gave it to them today. Go check out www.giveemhellharry.com if you want to see the results.
by Lady Dem 2005-11-01 12:41PM | 0 recs
Who says parliamentary procedure is boring?
R's have used parliamentary procedure against the Dems for decades when they were the minority party.  Jesse Helms was notorious for using the rules to advance his causes.  It's about time we started fighting back with every thing we've got.  
by glendenb 2005-11-01 01:38PM | 0 recs
Either
THis is either a brilliant move of opposition, or will totally screw us as objectionists.  Not only that, it could have far reaching effects in showing they have the backbone to put up a fight.  

I tend to think it will help the party, but as Chris said, only if we vocalize how good it is for the rest of the country.  DNM needs to start going.

by yitbos96bb 2005-11-01 01:42PM | 0 recs
It worked, too
Apparently Frist agreed to Reid's demands to start up the Phase II investigation right away, with a timetable. Not only was the move a great statement of fortitude, it effectively removed the GOP from control over the Senate's agenda. This was a watershed moment.
by elrod 2005-11-01 03:11PM | 0 recs
No "Reid sucks" postings?
I've lived to see Dems praise Harry Reid.

Holy shit.

I keep telling you guys that Harry Reid is Lucy and Bill Frist is Charlie Brown going on his ass.

by jcjcjc 2005-11-01 04:54PM | 0 recs
Re: No "Reid sucks" postings?
Just to mess with you....

REID SUCKS

...on left over Tootsie Pops from halloween!

by yitbos96bb 2005-11-01 08:54PM | 0 recs
Thanks
Because I didn't think I'd live to see the day that Harry Reid was universally praised by Dems.

Then again, his maneuver was patently badass.

by jcjcjc 2005-11-02 03:07AM | 0 recs
Reid outflanking Bush/Rove
Since the Miers debacle, I've been wondering if Reid made his comments to Bush about how easy she was to work with as a dupe.  Reid was blasted about that here.  Maybe he lured Bush into the nomination, having heard some rumor that she might be nominated, and figured that the right would eat her alive.  If so, I bow to his game plan.  If not, and the comment was genuine, REID SUCKED, but has redeemed himself.
by The lurking ecologist 2005-11-02 09:55AM | 0 recs
Reid did NOT "Shut down the Senate"
He made it WORK - for US.
by Rico 2005-11-01 06:51PM | 0 recs
My eyes are fill with
tears of joy. I have been waiting for years for my party to grow a spine. It seems the time as come for us to take our country back from the fascists. Thank God for Harry Reid. Give Them Hell Harry.
by HCLiberal 2005-11-01 08:22PM | 0 recs
Kick 'Em When They're Down, Harry!
Frist said this was all a slap in the face.

See, that's the problem with Frist and the Republican "ownership society": they're so mired in corruption and drunk with the power that they can't tell the difference between a slap in the face and a kick in the ass. The GOP is down for the count and we need do to them NOW what they've been doing to us for the past 5 years: keep putting the boots to 'em.

by Sizemore 2005-11-02 11:46PM | 0 recs

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