Martin Frost joins FAUX news

BIG freakin' hat tip to John for picking up on this:

Former Congressman Martin Frost of Dallas has signed a deal to be a political commentator for the Fox News Channel.

From Frost's statement when he withdrew from the chair race:

"With a strong, unified Democratic Party, a real 50-state party structure, and a commitment to working together and speaking directly to Americans' concerns and values, I am confident that we can and will elect Democrats at all levels and in all parts of the country. I look forward to continuing to play a constructive role in those efforts."

Pardon me, but how in the hell is he going to help us as a pundit on FAUX?  I'm not trying to kick the guy while he's down (and he must be down if he's taking a job with FAUX), but damn... do we really need another milquetoast "liberal" defending our views on FAUX?  And really, the first time he undermines us on the war (a la Joementum) I think my opposition to him as chair will be proven and justified.

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Going to lunch....
....hopefully I'll be able to keep it down after reading this news.  yuck
by annatopia 2005-02-16 07:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Going to lunch....
You, Anna, are a joke.  

First you argue that bloggers should be taken seriously (which I do agree they should, assuming they conform to certain ethical standards similar to journalists), then you flagrantly and irresponsibly attack Frost, then you complain that your privacy has been violated (by the very fact that your PUBLIC blog was "discovered"), and now this?  

Your rants are no more valuable than the Republican Noise Machine, and you make me sick.

Do you have no understanding of politics whatsoever?  Do you really think the Democratic Party is going to win over voters by sitting at their computers and talking to like minded people?  How you can't see Frost's new role as a benefit to the party is beyond me.

The blogsphere is VERY valuable, but only insofar as it disseminates information to activists willing to confront those who share opposite viewpoints.  Invigorating our base is necessary, but not sufficient.  Expanding our base, however, is.  Martin Frost, on Fox (Faux) News, can do that.

Did you even watch him yesterday?  It was great to see someone with intelligence and credibilty making those Republicans look like the morons they are.

If you can't recognize the political value of having a strong Democrat speaking to those who right now vote against us then you may as well return to your some "private" blogosphere and save the party--to whom Martin Frost is bravely working FOR--from your innane rants.

by DemDog 2005-02-16 07:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Going to lunch....
demdog, i don't know what i did to set off your "shit on everybody-o-meter", but you should really get over it.

i believe i've made a really good effort at respecting both you and your opinions even though we disagree.  i'm sorry you can't find it in yourself to show me the same respect.

by annatopia 2005-02-16 08:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Going to lunch....
I was Frost fan for DNC, but I saw him the other day on fox news, and he's really good. He comes across strong and articulate. He's not Alan Colmes at all. I fear he may be too good, and fox news will can him  for actually representing Democrats well.
by srolle 2005-02-16 02:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Going to lunch....
whoops... i left out 'not'. I was NOT a frost fan for DNC, but.....
by srolle 2005-02-16 03:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Going to lunch....
i hope you're right.  i'd be quite happy to be wrong in this instance.

i just really think the deck is stacked against dems on FAUX.  but if martin kicks their ass, well more power to him.

by annatopia 2005-02-16 06:18PM | 0 recs
Frost on Fox
Well I just posted a diary on the same topic. Weird timing. It was just a short diary with a poll asking what Frost will do now that he is on Fox News. I deleted the diary since it just duplicates this one. In fact, we even bolded the same sentence from Martin Frost. Here's the text of that deleted diary:

Cut to Fox News Channel. A pretty face and strong voice intones:

"Next Up on Fox, Martin Frost on Howard Dean"

"Martin Frost ran for the Chairmanship of the DNC but was judged too moderate by the Howard Dean gang. Now Martin is working for Fox so we'll get the real story on what happened."

"Martin, now that you have some distance to give you a little perspective, what do you think about Howard Dean as the head of the Democratic Party?"

How will Martin answer that (hypothetical) question on Fox?

Frost said this when he withdrew from the DNC Chair race:

"With a strong, unified Democratic Party, a real 50-state party structure, and a commitment to working together and speaking directly to Americans' concerns and values, I am confident that we can and will elect Democrats at all levels and in all parts of the country. I look forward to continuing to play a constructive role in those efforts."

Just what constructive role is Martin Frost going to play as a Fox News employee? Will he be just another token Democrat or will he be a strong Democratic voice in a Republican wilderness?

by Curt Matlock 2005-02-16 07:38AM | 0 recs
not real sure
sorry for duplicating your efforts!  i'll probably get rid of this in a day or so.  wouldn't wanna take up extra space.

as to your question, i don't know.  naturally i hope martin would be a strong voice, but my gut tells me it won't end up that way.  basically i think he'll be an alan colmes style pundit, and IMO that doesn't help us at all.

by annatopia 2005-02-16 08:05AM | 0 recs
Re: not real sure
You were there first. I was writing while you were posting so first diary wins!

I actually wanted your input anyway since you had defended Frost a couple of times as a Democrat even though you didn't back him for Chair.

Do you still see him as a possible Senate candidate or is all that out the window?

by Curt Matlock 2005-02-16 08:18AM | 0 recs
well thanks
i appreciate you acknowledging that, esp. after demdog shit all over me.  ;)

from what byron over at BOR says, martin doesn't have any interest in running for the senate.  i don't understand that, but it is martin's choice.  i personally think he'd make an outstanding senator.  but i'd defer to byron on this one.  if he says martin isn't interested i'll take that at face value.

by annatopia 2005-02-16 08:27AM | 0 recs
Re: well thanks
On that note, I think Gephardt would make a great MO Senator but he has no interest in running either.
by kydem 2005-02-16 08:35AM | 0 recs
i'd agree - gep would be real good in the senate.  i didn't exactly appreciate him as house leader, but as part of the party, hell yea.
by annatopia 2005-02-16 08:38AM | 0 recs
Re: well thanks
You are welcome. I didn't understand where that rant was coming from because you've spoken well of Frost many times and defended him on several occasions that I can recall.

I think the "Moderates" are a little frustrated right now. They are thinking of seceding and taking the "50%" in the middle from both parties with them to form a new party.

Personally, I'm disappointed Frost took the job on Fox. It seems more likely to me that he will end up serving the Republicans by being a token that legitimizes Fox as balanced. Instead of having a helpful voice I would expect Fox to make sure any attempts he makes at arguing for the Democratic Party are undermined. But hey, I could be wrong and really, sincerely, wish him luck at fulfilling this promise.

"With a strong, unified Democratic Party, a real 50-state party structure, and a commitment to working together and speaking directly to Americans' concerns and values, I am confident that we can and will elect Democrats at all levels and in all parts of the country. I look forward to continuing to play a constructive role in those efforts."
by Curt Matlock 2005-02-16 08:41AM | 0 recs
Re: well thanks
I'm not seceding anytime soon.
by kydem 2005-02-16 09:03AM | 0 recs
Glad to hear it! eom
by Curt Matlock 2005-02-16 09:10AM | 0 recs
i think he's holding a grudge
...because i'm the person who put the video of the ad on the internet.  basically, we (demdog & i) completely disagreed with the intent of those ads, and as i've said multiple times fine people can agree to disagree.  but it seems like anything i post regarding frost solicits shitty comments from demdog, even though i thought i did a fair post on frost's voting record.

oh well, ya can't please everybody!

you are probably right in saying that some moderates are feeling frustrated.  i wonder how many of them bought the anti-dean spin during the past year.  it's funny, though.  dean should be a natural ally to the moderates - just look at his record.  he was completely moderate - pissed off both the left and right during his tenure as gov, yet he still has this media-created reputation for being some left winger.  and what bothers me is that his supporters are painted as though we're ignorant of his moderate record.

ug, sorry, totally tangenting now.

by annatopia 2005-02-16 09:20AM | 0 recs
Alan Colmes is improving.
Alan Colmes at some points has actually had to feed some good responses to clueless democrats whenever one of Hannity's buddies would challenege them to defend Howard Dean or why Michael Moore was invited to the DNC.

When one democratic guy was on and acted defensive and evasive(as if he was trying to protect the black sheep of the family) when the Dean name was brought up as an example of the direction of the party, it was Colmes who had to ask the guy "wasn't dean the same guy who balanced budgets, part of the NRA, blah blah" and this guy just ignored Colmes despite the help he was getting from him.

Can we get a lineup of people who supported Frost as chairman ? Wasn't plastic surgery victim Pelosi one of them, or did she support someone else.

by Pravin 2005-02-16 10:14AM | 0 recs
so glad to hear that!
personally i think the FAUX game is rigged against democrats and liberals, so i'm really pleased to read your post.  if colmes grew a spine i would be a happy camper.
i just can't bring myself to watch FAUX long enough to see the difference. ;)
by annatopia 2005-02-16 11:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Alan Colmes is improving.
The plastic surgery victim supported Tim Roemer.
by Painter2004 2005-02-16 02:19PM | 0 recs
I wish him the Best
Head over to BOR for their opinions.  they say it better than me
by kydem 2005-02-16 08:00AM | 0 recs
Why is this bad?
He's gives a nice balance to Zell Miller and shows we're all not lunatic liberals.

Frost is a pretty moderate guy who won't be spending his time attacking us.

I think this is awesome news although I wish he had been hired by MSNBC.

by alexm 2005-02-16 01:17PM | 0 recs
not saying it's bad...
....i just don't get it.  martin seemed to indicate in his exit statement that he'd be working with the party.  and now he signs on to FAUX... so what i'm saying is... i don't get it!

and with all due respect to martin, i can't see him shouting over hammity or olielly.

plus, i think the game at FAUX is rigged against the dems.  i just don't see any "liberal" pundit on FAUX making any headway.

hope that clarifies.

by annatopia 2005-02-16 01:27PM | 0 recs
Re: not saying it's bad...
maybe they want to make up for cnn's crossfire and bring Jon Stewart on as a guest?
by kydem 2005-02-16 03:36PM | 0 recs


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