Obama flip-flops on Patriot Act & other issues

ABC News is out with a new story that further reinforces the fact that Barack Hussein Obama is an "uh-oh, better get Maaco politician"; an old style politician with a fresh coat of new style paint.

In 2003, while serving in the Illinois State Senate, Barack Obama completed a survey by the Illinois chapter of the National Organization of Women (NOW) which asked him several questions including:

A.)  Would you vote to repeal the Patriot Act?

B.)  Would you support legislation to repeal the Protection of Marriage Act?

C.)  Would you support legislation that eliminates all discrimination in the military based on sexual orientation?

In 2003, Obama provided the following answers to those three questions...

Would you vote to repeal the Patriot Act?

Yes, I would vote to repeal the U.S. Patriot Act, although I would consider replacing that shoddy and dangerous law with a new, carefully crafted proposal that addressed  in a much more limited fashion the legitimate needs of law enforcement in combating terrorism (for example, permitting a warrant for the interception of cell phone calls, and not just land-based phones to accommodate changes in technology).
However, on March 2, 2006, U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D - Illinois) voted to re-authorize the Patriot Act  [Source:  3/2/2006 Senate Roll Call Vote #029].  In fact, on February 16, 2006, Sen. Obama had this to say on the floor of the United States Senate:

"This compromise does modestly improve the PATRIOT Act by strengthening civil liberties protections without sacrificing the tools that law enforcement needs to keep us safe [...] So, I will be supporting the Patriot Act compromise. [Source:  2/16/2006 Floor Statement of Senator Barack Obama on USA PATRIOT Act Reauthorization]

Would you support legislation to repeal the Protection of Marriage Act?

I support laws recognizing domestic partnerships and providing benefits to domestic partners.  However, I do not support legislation to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act.
On a campaign flyer targeted towards members of the LGBT community, presidential candidate Obama stakes out this position:

"Obama also believes we need to fully repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and enact legislation that would ensure that the 1,100+ federal legal rights and benefits currently provided on the basis of marital status are extended to same-sex couples in civil unions and other legally-recognized unions." [Source:  Barack Obama campaign flyer "Barack Obama On LGBT Rights" (PDF file)]

Would you support legislation that eliminates all discrimination in the military based on sexual orientation?

I would have to examine specific legislation, but I would oppose policies that fail to advance equal rights in the military.
 This was really a yes or no question.  Let me re-state it for everyone's benefit...

...Would you support legislation that eliminates all discrimination in the military based on sexual orientation?  Yes or No.  Obama's answer:  "I would have to have examine specific legislation..." Now, Obama "has taken a strong stand against 'don't ask, don't tell,' at times comparing it to the integration of blacks in the armed forces as both a moral issue and an achievable goal." [Source:  11/30/2007 New York Times article "A New Push to Roll Back `Don't Ask, Don't Tell'"]

Boy, Obama sure does seem like an old style politician; giving the answers that suit the political moment.  In 2003, he said he was against the Patriot Act, but voted for it in 2006.  In 2003, he said he was against the repeal of DOMA, but now he's for it in 2007.  In 2003, he said he'd have to "examine specific legislation" dealing with LGBT discrimination in the military, now he's completely for ending "don't ask/don't tell".

This doesn't look like a new style of politics to me.  Once again, it shows that Barack Hussein Obama is an "uh-oh, better get Maaco" politician.  Old style politics with a new style coat of paint.

Tags: Barack Obama, issues, questionnaires (all tags)



Re: Your sense of humor

You actually got me to laugh out loud on this one. Yes he sure does seem like an old school politician when he says he would actually have to read the legislation before giving his view.  Imagine if some of these new style politicians had actually taken the time to read the NIE before voting to go off to War?  Perhaps we would have been spared a lot of misery.

by Piuma 2007-12-12 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Your sense of humor

And by focusing on one detail, you miss out on the big picture.

Obama was against repealing DOMA before he was for it.

Obama was for repealing the Patriot Act before he was against it.

It's that same old style of politics where you say whatever will get you elected at the time.

by Andre Walker 2007-12-12 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Your sense of humor

There is nothing wrong in changing your opinion on a gray issue like marriage. My opinion changes all the time. I have always been for equal treatment of gays. But when it comes to the definition of marriage, I have become more accepting over time. It has ranged from being incredulous about it to indifference to support. And sometimes i go back to indifference. And i do not run for anything. Why should a politician be any different.

I hope you are objective enough to look at Hillary's waffling. She started out with some evaluation of teachers skills to a wholescale pandering to the teachers lobby. And education is one of her top issues.

by Pravin 2007-12-12 08:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Your sense of humor

Obama's whole theme is that he presents a new kinds of politics, which would make him a new kind of politician. He's always talking about leadership, and this doesn't look like leadership to me, it looks like saying whatever will get you ahead.

by Denny Crane 2007-12-13 03:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Your sense of humor

Oh and go back and google the clips on Hillary from the Iraq war vote period. You can find her throwing a bone to everyone at different venues.

by Pravin 2007-12-12 08:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Your sense of humor

Ummm - I thought the old style of politics was when you just played gotcha will silly stuff like this...but apparently, according to you, the new style of politics is when you take one position and keep it throughout your entire life time.

by wahoopaul 2007-12-13 05:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Your sense of humor

Yeah, Obama should use that line if it comes up in the debate on Thursday.

Please, keep it comin'.

by General Sherman 2007-12-12 01:51PM | 0 recs
Obama flip-flops

Barry's definitely a politician. Although, he has done a great job in concealing it. The issues you bring up will definitely be used against him by the GOP. We've seen it time and time again.

by lonnette33 2007-12-12 03:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama flip-flops

I believe he goes by Barack now. Isn't Barry something he used in the past. Your using Barry reminds me of REpublicans who use Democrat Party.

by Pravin 2007-12-12 08:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama flip-flops

That 'Democrat party" thing has never bothered me for some reason.  I know the Rethugs want it to get under our skin, but I just think it's silly.

by Denny Crane 2007-12-13 03:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama flip-flops

If memomory serves me correctly, the reason the republicans use "democrat" party is that is has a more negative rating in polling than "democratic" party does.

by d 2007-12-13 07:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama flip-flops

Lonette doesn't realize it - but calling him "Barry" is a clever tactic to remind voters that he's a black man.

by wahoopaul 2007-12-13 05:23AM | 0 recs
How is that possible?

Let me go through a list of white "Barry's":

Barry Gibb,
Barry Manilow,
Barry Williams,
Barry Goldwater.

Shall I continue?

by Andre Walker 2007-12-13 05:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama flip-flops

Dude, everyone in America knows Obama is black.  It's like this is race card week at Obama HQ or something.

by Steve M 2007-12-13 06:22AM | 0 recs
barry is a black name?

compared to Barack?

this is getting ridiculous.

Hillary sounds like an uptight snob name to me.

by d 2007-12-13 07:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama flip-flops

don't worry wahoo..some of us get it (lol)

by JoeCoaster 2007-12-13 12:46PM | 0 recs
whoz barry?

really lonnette....stop bringing up your imaginary boyfriend... it's getting embarrassing.

by JoeCoaster 2007-12-13 12:48PM | 0 recs
Re: whoz barry?

LOL very funny!

by lonnette33 2007-12-14 04:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama -Authentic? Not!

Why doesn't anyone mention Obama's years of molding by David Axelrod?  How does Obama get away with his faux "authenticity."

ARTICLE | posted February 6, 2007 (February 19, 2007 issue)
The Nation: Obama's Media Maven

"Given his rhetorical skills, Harvard Law pedigree, up-by-the-bootstraps bio and, well, his race, it is hard not to compare recently elected Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick to his friend Barack Obama. Both men entered crowded primaries in which they were definitively not favored. They both inspired a kind of personal pride among supporters that is rare in politics. On the evening of Obama's convincing primary victory, the crowd and the candidate joined in chanting, "Yes We Can!" and if you listen closely to video of Patrick rallies, you'll hear the crowd chanting the very same thing. When Patrick looked into the camera in one ad and said the state's problem wasn't a "deficit of dollars but a deficit of leadership," it was hard not to hear echoes of Obama's oft-used line that the country's biggest problem isn't a budget deficit but an "empathy deficit." And in Patrick's most effective ad, he stands on a stage delivering an impassioned speech to a crescendo of applause as Obama sits on a stool just behind him, nodding approvingly, his head perfectly framed in the shot.

Which brings us to something else the two men share: David Axelrod, the 51-year-old reporter turned media consultant who was the key media strategist for both men's campaigns. He's the one who wrote those ads, framed that shot and came up with the "Yes We Can" tag line. . . If the Obama message can be distilled to a single word, it is "hope." It's in the title of his new book (The Audacity of Hope) and the name of his PAC (Hopefund). If you page back through Axelrod's work, it's a word that shows up a lot. All politics traffics in clichés, and hope certainly isn't a new one "
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070219/ha yes

by ExperienceCounts 2007-12-12 04:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama -Authentic? Not!

nice profile. no stories of axelrod union busting, corporate enabling or sending contributions to republicans, like hillary's handler mark penn does.

by jello 2007-12-12 08:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama flip-flops on Patriot Act

This diary reads like an attack ad! This is just hideous. As I read it I heard that political attack ad voice.


Horrible diary. I mean is this what we are? Amateur attack ad creators??

by crackityjones 2007-12-12 08:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama flip-flops on Patriot Act

You have no right criticizing a diary which attempts to show Obama's flip flops with substance. This is nothing like the baseless attack diaries which calls Hillary Clinton an associate of Hitler. This is the type of diaries that are acceptable. They are to the point with citied proof.

by RJEvans 2007-12-12 09:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama flip-flops on Patriot Act

Yes, absolutely horrible.  How dare andre write a diary that contrasts Obama's own words before with his words now. For shame! Maybe Obama should launch a new website, "Andre Attacks!".

by Denny Crane 2007-12-13 03:14AM | 0 recs
Ha Ha Ha...

...That just made my day.

"Andre Attacks!"

Someone go ahead and reserve that domain name just in case.

by Andre Walker 2007-12-13 05:08AM | 0 recs

This diary is laughable. You folks are dumping the lame Obama oppo-research book. Give me a break.

Didn't Hillary Clinton vote for the original Patriot Act?

by wahoopaul 2007-12-13 05:22AM | 0 recs
Re: HA!!!

The one that passed 98-1?

by Steve M 2007-12-13 06:24AM | 0 recs
obama wears flip-flops?


by d 2007-12-13 07:35AM | 0 recs
hillary flip flops

A.)  Would you vote to repeal the Patriot Act?
B.)  Would you support legislation to repeal the Protection of Marriage Act?
C.)  Would you support legislation that eliminates all discrimination in the military based on sexual orientation?

i don't know about the patriot act, but hillary has also shifted positions on the last two.

by jello 2007-12-13 09:11AM | 0 recs
Re: hillary flip flops

it's amazing to me that bill clinton gets a pass for signing DOMA into law.

by jello 2007-12-13 09:13AM | 0 recs


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