Brokered Convention; McCain as Prez

Unless Clinton does well in VA, MD, WA, WI, OH and TX, this thing is going to the convention.

Neither Obama nor Clinton will come out looking good; Clinton will not accept the VP and Obama is too arrogant to think about it.

This is it. I just think that McCain will become our President because our party is certainly becoming the party of losers, with us finding a way all the time to lose.

Also, there would be 8 weeks to campaign for the general election for the Democrat while McCain rakes up millions and picks a conservative to pacify Limbaugh and Hannity.

Tags: Convention (all tags)



Disagree entirely

Memo for rest of spring/summer:

Old white man wins R nomination.

24-hr news cycle: Dem issues and values debated and repeated ad nauseum.  Nothing but D issue exposure.

By the time we get to the General the public will be locked into a debate on mandates but will be 100% saturated and sold on universal healthcare.  So when McCain aint offering it - huge advantage.

And that goes for the rest of the issues.

I dont understand the animosity towards a prolonged primary and brokered convention - it keeps the spotlight on our issues, our frames, our candidates.  Thats a great thing for us.

Look at the numbers yesterday - we have the excitement and momentum.  McCain barely won anywhere - hell less than 50% of Rs in his home state.

And despite the bs rhetoric and blood-letting here  - Obama and Clinton will not poison the well, attack each other so much as to hurt our chances.

by BWasikIUgrad 2008-02-06 06:42AM | 0 recs
You make an excellent point

Can McCain break though and get any media attention as the Republican nominee if Democrats are locked in a dogfight?

Still if there is only 4 weeks to go how do you raise money for the general, and how do you campaign in close states that McCain will have been visiting for 3 or 4 months.

I think this election is all about MI and FL.  I really do.  If the situation is handled poorly they could both go to McCain in Nov.   Something like 8 out of the 11 Reps from MI are Republican, so it is a state that knows how to vote for Republicans.

by dpANDREWS 2008-02-06 07:01AM | 0 recs
Re: You make an excellent point

you don't raise money for the general, you take the matching funds just like McCain will.

And the election will come down to OH and FL, not MI.  There are more Rep. reps in CA to, but i doubt you think that state will be up for grabs.

by Jim Engler 2008-02-06 08:21AM | 0 recs
quick question

So Obama should just call it quits?

by highgrade 2008-02-06 06:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Brokered Convention; McCain as Prez

The only way to change this would be to have a Clinton/Obama ticket. Since Obama is the weaker general election candidate it would make sense to have him as VP instead of Pres candidate.

by Ga6thDem 2008-02-06 06:57AM | 0 recs
I am worried too

I think that McCain will pick Huckabee,  not to pacify Limbaugh/Hannity but to hold the theocrats in the coalition,  and with a 72 year old President and their first real own vice president on the ticket,  I think it will work.   Also Huckabee will play very well in the national debate and be stronger as a VP candidate then he would have as a Presidential candidate.

I think that both Clinton and Obama have fundamental flaws as candidates that unfortunately having the other on the ticket won't help.  50 Percent of the country don't like Hillary.   The anti Hillary people won't like her more because she has Obama on her ticket.   Obama has very little foreign policy experience (I say very little generously) He tends to mispeak and then deny he said what he said and tries to reframe the discussion.  The media will ultimately eat him up with video's proving him dishonest.

The only benefit of of Clinton/Obama, Obama/Clinton ticket is to help to heal wounds that might be opened in the next three months.

I fear that Obama and Clinton will both be so determined to be President, that they will cut the other one apart on their flaws and leave us with a bloody wounded ticket.

I hope I am wrong.

by AlanR 2008-02-06 07:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Brokered Convention; McCain as Prez

I think he might end up as President too and i'm already sick to death of "my friends...."  Blah.

by reasonwarrior 2008-02-06 10:30AM | 0 recs


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