St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

I've written about Hillary's work regarding the peace process in Northern Ireland several times over the past week because this is an issue I followed closely and pushed for back in the mid-90s.  I read everything I could get my hands on.  I poured through The Irish News, the Belfast Telegraph (both out of Belfast) and the Irish Times (Dublin) on a daily basis.  I talked with friends on the ground up there and was very active in discussion boards on line (you think I post here a lot!).  And I've known people from both traditions who've lost loved ones to the senseless violence.

I'm hardly an expert but I know more than most Americans about what went down back then.  And my respect for those who risked everything to make the Good Friday Agreement possible is immeasurable.  The process had been going on for years and a lot of other major agreements among the British, Irish and those in the North laid the groundwork to be sure.  But the peace process was given a huge shot in the arm when Bill Clinton granted Gerry Adams (President of Sinn Fein) a visa to come to the US, and then appointed Senator George Mitchell as his envoy to Belfast in an effort to bring the parties together to work out a lasting peace agreement.

The success of the parties to the Good Friday Agreement represents the single-most significant foreign policy accomplishment in recent US history.  And this model's being used to try to bring peace to other parts of our world in turmoil.

Now I won't repeat what I've written about Hillary's contributions to this effort, except to say that this was (and still is) a priority for her.  No other First Lady has ever traveled to one nation 5 times while in the White House.  Since becoming Senator, she's returned to Northern Ireland two more times.  She convened the Vital Voices conference which was attended by over 400 women.  I've posted quotes from key players in the peace process, such as Ian Paisley, Martin McGuiness, George Mitchell and John Hume who all agree that Hillary made significant contributions to the effort.  I think Gerry Adams was even quoted in the Irish Times saying things to that effect.

When Ian Paisley and Martin McGuiness visited the US back in December to drum up interest in investment in Northern Ireland, they visited with only two US politicians.  They went to the White House to visit with Bush.  And they met with Hillary to thank her and Bill for their contributions to the peace process in the North of Ireland.

By the way, I hear they extended an invitation to visit with BO while they were in town but he blew them off.

Now BO's been talking about the work Hillary did to help bring peace to Northern Ireland all those years ago.  His campaign's been pointing to an interview David Trimble did with a British rag, where he said he didn't recall Hillary playing any significant role in the peace process.  But those who followed and pushed for the peace process in the mid-90s will tell you a few things about David Trimble...

He opposed the appointment of Sen. George Mitchell by President Bill Clinton at the outset.

Once he took up the post as First Minister in the devolved government in Belfast, he was forced to resign because he refused to implement the Good Friday Agreement that he'd originally signed on to.

Now just because I point these things out doesn't negate what I said above.  Trimble may have failed miserably when it came to implementing the Good Friday Agreement, but he played an important role in helping that agreement to see the light of day in the first place.  However, on the matter regarding Hillary's contributions to the peace process I think he's got an agenda that most of us might not be aware of.

I was in on a campaign press conference call yesterday with several Irish American Members of Congress - one of whom said the following...

Any time Sen. Obama's camp raises David Trimble's name among the Irish American community in Pennsylvania, they win votes for Hillary.

There's a huge Irish American community in Pennsylvania and they can't stand Trimble.  So I hope BO keeps using that quote from Trimble - I really do.

Ya know something just occurred to me as to why Obama's been attacking Hillary so much on her involvement with the peace process in Northern Ireland.  He's going after her record because he doesn't have one of his own.  Come to think of it... you could say that about any of his other attacks when it comes to Hillary's foreign policy and national security experience.

Hillary's done a lot of work to further the cause of peace in the North, but she understands there's still work to be done and she's put out a press release to map out her plan and back up her record to date.  Take a look...

Hillary Clinton:  A Strong Partner for Northern Ireland

Today, Hillary Clinton joined with Irish-Americans at Saint Patrick's Day parades and celebrations in Scranton and Pittsburgh .  Her visit came on the heels of a meeting with the British Secretary of State for Northern Ireland , Shaun Woodward, where she discussed the status of the peace process, the work of the new devolved government, and the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead for Northern Ireland .  

As President, Hillary is committed to achieving lasting peace and reconciliation and to supporting the Northern Ireland government, building on her 13 years of working for peace and prosperity in Northern Ireland .  

"As the 10-year anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement approaches, I salute the brave and tireless efforts of the parties to the pact, and the contributions of so many citizens to the resolution of the conflict and the achievement of peace," said Clinton .  "As President, my administration will deepen and strengthen ties between the United States and Northern Ireland, and between the people of the United States and those who live on the island of Ireland ."

Hillary's presidential agenda builds on her long record. She traveled to Northern Ireland seven times between 1995 and 2004, and gave what Northern Irish leader and Nobel Laureate John Hume recently described as "decisive support" to the peace process in Northern Ireland .  Her work at the grassroots and behind-the-scenes helped cultivate the conditions necessary for the peace to take hold and last.

In fact, in recent days several people deeply involved in the peace process noted Hillary Clinton's contributions.  For example, in a recent interview in the Irish Times, Gerry Adams, President of Sinn Fein, said, "Senator Clinton played an important role in the peace process...I met the senator on many occasions when she was First Lady, and subsequently when she became a senator for New York State. I always found her to be extremely well informed on the issues." 

In an article published this week in the Irish-American paper, Irish Voice, Martin McGuinness, Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland said, "She made a huge contribution towards lifting the esteem of women in our society by the fact of seeing someone of such high office taking an interest and concern in them. I think the events in Ireland at that time were incredible and remarkable and she certainly played an important part."

As President, she will:

Pursue vigorous diplomatic engagement. Hillary will lend her personal support and the diplomatic resources of the United States to help resolve the outstanding issues on the road to permanent peace.  She will name a White House special envoy on Northern Ireland tasked with assisting her in her efforts to provide diplomatic and economic support to Northern Ireland .  Hillary supports full devolution as envisioned in the Saint Andrews Agreement and believes that the transfer of policing and justice powers is a major priority and should be completed as swiftly as possible.  Where old issues persist or new issues arise, she will work personally with the leaders of Northern Ireland , the Republic of Ireland , and Great Britain to ensure the full implementation of the tenets of the Good Friday and Saint Andrews Agreements.  

Build robust economic partnerships. Hillary believes that a thriving economy in Northern Ireland and in the bordering counties of the Republic is an important part of building a lasting peace.  She is committed to a strong economic partnership between the United States and all of Ireland.

She will continue to support the International Fund for Ireland through annual appropriations to spur economic and employment opportunities and to improve cross-border business and community ties.    

She will work with the Northern Ireland government and business leaders to explore new opportunities to attract international investment that will spur economic expansion.  She will direct her Secretary of Commerce and the Overseas Private Investment Corporation to determine smart strategies to promote investment in Northern Ireland , and to support a growing all-island economy.  She will also encourage Northern Ireland businesses to come to the United States to invest.  In addition, as a follow-up to the U.S./Northern Ireland Investment Conference, which she supports, Hillary's administration will help coordinate a summit of mayors from the United States , Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland to build ties and to share ideas on economic development and attracting capital.  

Hillary will also build on her work as a Senator, providing U.S. technical assistance on issues ranging from job creation to trade and agriculture policy.  And she will support grassroots efforts in Northern Ireland to promote economic development and improved housing, health care, and education.

Promote women's political and economic progress. Hillary will continue the efforts she began as First Lady - through support for Vital Voices and other initiatives - to encourage the participation of women in the political process, to promote women-owned businesses, and to continue to support women as leaders in their communities.  

Strengthen cultural ties. Hillary will return as President to Ireland and Northern Ireland to honor the strong and deep relationship between the people of the United States and the people of all of Ireland .  She will continue her work on fostering a vibrant alliance between the United States , all of Ireland , and Great Britain based on our shared values and common aspirations.

Apply lessons elsewhere. Hillary will use the lessons learned from her experience in the Northern Ireland peace process to confront situations of violence in troubled regions of the world, to bring old enemies together, and to build democracy and prosperity.

Reform our broken immigration system. There are an estimated 50,000 undocumented Irish immigrants in the United States .  Hillary believes in comprehensive and fair immigration reform that respects our immigrant heritage and honors the rule of law.  She will continue to work with the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform and a wide range of other immigrant advocacy organizations to put the undocumented on a path to legalization as part of comprehensive reform, and to fix other aspects of our broken immigration system.

Hillary's presidential agenda builds on her long record. She traveled to Northern Ireland seven times between 1995 and 2004, and gave what Northern Irish leader and Nobel Laureate John Hume recently described as "decisive support" to the peace process in Northern Ireland [http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id= 6430].  Her work at the grassroots and behind-the-scenes helped cultivate the conditions necessary for the peace to take hold and last.

*        As Gerry Adams, President of Sinn Fein, said, "Senator Clinton played an important role in the peace process...I met the senator on many occasions when she was First Lady, and subsequently when she became a senator for New York State . I always found her to be extremely well informed on the issues." [Irish Times, March 12, 2008].  

*        Senator George Mitchell said in an interview with CBS news, that "[s]he was helpful and supportive, very much involved in the issues, knew all of the delegates. She accompanied President Clinton on each visit he made to Northern Ireland , made several visits of her own. Her greatest focus was on encouraging women in Northern Ireland to get in and stay in the political process, the peace process. And I have said publicly many times and wrote in my book, the role of women in the peace process in Northern Ireland was significant. It did make a difference in the process, so as I said I think it was a helpful and supportive role." [CBS News Interview with Katie Couric, March 10, 2008]

As First Lady:

She held private calls and meetings with the negotiating parties on all sides and at all levels to encourage them to continue working to establish peace long after the Good Friday Agreement was signed in 1998.

John Hume:  "She made countless calls and contacts, speaking to leaders and opinion makers on all sides, urging them to keep moving forward." For example, Representative Peter King recalls how she and President Clinton sat down privately with Gerry Adams to discuss decommissioning of IRA weapons. [Cnn.com, March 6, 2008, "A fact check on Hillary Clinton's foreign policy claims."]

Martin McGuinness, Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland :  "I met her on many occasions as First Lady and Senator from New York .  She is always extremely well informed and supportive on the issue I think she is as well informed as President Clinton ever was and he was always well informed on the political situation. Whenever I spoke to Senator Clinton I was always struck by the level of her knowledge and the fact that she was surrounded by people who always took it upon themselves to give great importance to the issue." [Statement in interview with Niall O'Dowd, Irish Voice, March 11, 2008]

She played a significant role in bringing women into the process, which paid key dividends in progress toward peace.

For example, in 1998, under the auspices of the U.S.-led Vital Voices Democracy Initiative - established by Hillary and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright the previous year - Hillary brought together 400 women in Belfast to foster their rise to prominence and leadership and to ensure that their success helped support peace.
Senator George Mitchell:  "She was very much involved in encouraging the emergence of women in the political process in Northern Ireland , which was a significant factor in ultimately getting an agreement." [The Fact Checker, The Washington Post, January 10, 2008.]  

Geraldine McAteer, Chief Executive of West Belfast Partnership Board:  "As First Lady, Hillary Clinton was extremely supportive of the peace process in Northern Ireland , and in particular, of the women who live here... Through her Vital Voices Conference in September 1998, I and others were able to develop our skills for the betterment of our communities." [http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id= 6430]

Inez McCormack, the first female president of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions:  "Hillary Clinton took risks for peace in asking me and others to bring women and communities from both traditions to affirm their capacity to work for common purpose and to assert, when there was no public dialogue which supported it, that working for common purpose on the basis of mutual respect was the core of effective peace building. She used her immense influence to give women like me space to develop this work and validated it every step of the way. This approach is now taken for granted bit it wasn't then." [http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id= 6430]

Baroness May Blood of the House of Lords, who worked for many years as a community leader in the Shankill area of West Belfast : "The First Lady sent the message that the work and influence that grassroots women were undertaking within their communities was just as important as anything else that was taking place. I witnessed her building new confidence in women at the grassroots level and their stature grew within Northern Ireland as a consequence." [http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id= 6430]

She used her spot on the world stage to inspire citizens and to challenge the leaders from the contending sides.

*        In so doing, she - like her husband - gained the admiration of the people of Northern Ireland .  As the Philadelphia Inquirer put it in 1998, " Northern Ireland 's residents value and respect both Clintons for their contributions to the troubled province's peace process."   She developed close relationships in the Republic of Ireland , where at an important moment she carried a pledge to the government of Ireland that the United States would remain a partner in the peace process. [Philadelphia Inquirer, "Hillary Clinton Talks of Peace, not of Scandal," September 3, 1998]

*        At a meeting with Senator Clinton in December 2007, Martin McGuinness said, "I've known Hillary Clinton a very, very long time and we have a lot to be thankful for, for her husband's contribution, for her contribution." [Guardian, " Clinton basks in glow of Ulster's first couple," December 7, 2007.]

As Senator:

Her efforts continued long after the Good Friday Agreement was signed in 1998.  She visited the Republic of Ireland on her first trip during her Senate term, and Northern Ireland on her second trip, where she spoke with all of the major leaders in Northern Ireland .

Every year around the St. Patrick's Day celebration, Hillary has met with the Taoiseach and other party leaders from Ireland , Northern Ireland , and Great Britain .  She continues to take calls from all parties to provide help behind the scenes and to keep the process moving forward.  She has held meetings in her office at the request of Northern Irish officials on job creation, trade, agriculture, autism, policing, economic development - and of course reconciliation.

*        In 2004, Hillary and President Clinton met with the party leaders still working on establishing lasting peace during their visit to Ireland and Northern Ireland .  They met with Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness of Sinn Fein; David Trimble of the UUP; Paul Murphy, the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland; Peter Robinson of the DUP; and Mark Durkan of the SDLP.  In addition Hillary sat down with Taoiseach Bertie Ahern during her visit where she and President Clinton discussed the current issues and a plan to move forward.

*        On August 26, 2004, Hillary was asked to deliver the Tip O'Neill Lecture at the University of Ulster 's Magee campus on the theme of peace and reconciliation in the modern world and was awarded an honorary Doctor of Laws degree.   During that visit, Professor Gerry McKenna, Vice-Chancellor of the University of Ulster said that, "The honorary degree marks both Senator Clinton's distinguished career as a lawyer, politician and eminent public figure and her deep commitment to peace and progress in Northern Ireland." [Irish News, "Hillary in Magee lecture," August 24, 2004]

*        Hillary continues to meet with elected and party leaders since the Northern Ireland Assembly was restored on May 8, 2007.  In December 2007, when Martin McGuinness and Ian Paisley were in Washington , they sat down with Hillary in a private meeting and thanked her for her contribution to the peace process.  As McGuinness put it, "these are wonderfully exciting times for all of us back home, not least because of the contributions made by President Clinton and Mrs. Clinton." [AP, December 7, 2007].

One last point... Hillary accepted an invitation to take part in the Irish American Presidential Forum.  Take a look at the campaign's press release...

Hillary Accepts Invitation To Irish American Presidential Forum

The Clinton campaign today announced that Hillary Clinton would attend the Irish American Presidential Forum.  The event is an opportunity for presidential candidates to address the Irish-American voters and answer questions important to the community, including Northern Ireland and immigration.

"I'm excited to participate in this important forum.  I have worked on issues important to the Irish-American community for many years and look forward to discussing my plans as President," said Clinton .  "I want to thank John Dearie and the other organizers of this event for the invitation and encourage Senator Obama and Senator McCain to accept it as well.  By doing so, voters will have an opportunity to examine our records and compare our plans to continue moving the peace process in Northern Ireland forward."

The campaign is working with the organizers to confirm a date and location for the forum.

Hillary traveled to Northern Ireland seven times between 1995 and 2004, and gave what Northern Irish leader and Nobel Laureate John Hume recently described as "decisive support" to the peace process in Northern Ireland .  One of her key areas of focus was encouraging the emergence of women in the political process.  In addition, Hillary's work at the grass roots and behind-the-scenes helped cultivate the conditions necessary for the peace to take hold and last.  She became intimately familiar with the major players in the process and spoke with them often to serve as a sounding board and to push the negotiations forward. For more information on Hillary Clinton's work on behalf of Northern Ireland , click here.

The first Irish American Presidential Forum took place in 1984.

The fact that Hillary's taking part in this forum shows us just how knowledgeable and confident she is when it comes to these issues.

I'm guessing BO won't show up for this event.

U P D A T E

Hat tip to Praxis1 for reminding me of this wonderful video of Hillary at the St. Patrick's Day parade in Scraonton, PA. Check it out...

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Comments

24 Comments

All But 1 of the Major Players Back Her Up in This

Bottome line - if John Hume says she made siginficant contributions to the process then that's good enough for me.

Hillary's proposing a way forward for the North, which is a hell of a lot more than her opponent's offering up here.

by alegre 2008-03-16 07:09PM | 0 recs
I'm glad that Hillary...

Knows how to make diplomacy happen, so I'm sure she'll do great in being a real peacemaker as our next President.

Great diary, Alegre! :-)

by atdleft 2008-03-16 07:16PM | 0 recs
I couldn't sleep and what do I see?

Yet another excellent diary from alegre. Your work is top notch, as always.

Rec'd.

by DemAC 2008-03-16 10:39PM | 0 recs
hey Alegre

They just quoted you on msnbc, swear to god.

by Drewid 2008-03-17 11:56AM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve

Would you add this wondeful video of Hillary's march in St. Patrick's day Parade in Pittsburgh? I bet your diary is going to be in the recommended list and I want people to see who is the real rock star in PA. :-)

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by praxis1 2008-03-16 07:22PM | 0 recs
WOW!!

It looks like Pennsylvania Democrats are wasting no time in telling us all who they'd like to see as our next President! :-)

by atdleft 2008-03-16 07:38PM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve

You got it - and thanks for reminding me to include it!

by alegre 2008-03-16 07:50PM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

Excellent diary. Reminded me of an old quote:

The people of Ireland produce more history than can be consumed locally, hence they must export it.

Where's her security?

by DaleA 2008-03-16 09:11PM | 0 recs
Did you see the video from Scranton?

It was great - Hillary led the way and her supporters were great.

I wish we still lived in the East on St. Paddy's Day - it's the start of parade season in NYC!!

And a great day it is!

Go Hillary!

by Shazone 2008-03-16 09:18PM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

You hear they extended an invitation to Barack Obama and he blew them off?  That is a serious allegation.  Where did you hear it?  No source- DON'T SAY IT.

by daninpa 2008-03-16 10:50PM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

Another excellent diary! Thank you. Happy St. Patty's Day to you.

by Enviro 2008-03-17 03:33AM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

Great St. Patty's Day diary!!

by Mike Pridmore 2008-03-17 03:48AM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

Sorry it took so long to comment. I was asleep before this was published.

What strikes me the most is how ridiculous it is that you or any of us have to defend what Hillary has done for Ireland. As someone that tries to keep up on things i have known for a long while that Hillary was an active participant in helping to bring about peace.

Thank you for another splendid diary.

by Fleaflicker 2008-03-17 04:25AM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

As usual, Alegre, your posts are superb!!!- BO's Blarney is not what we need...Hillary is our gal!! susanclare

by susanclare 2008-03-17 05:27AM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

Excellent diary.  I learned a lot - thanks for doing  this!

Rec'd.

by cmugirl90 2008-03-17 05:32AM | 0 recs
Give Ireland Back to the Irish

One of my favorite songs from one of my favorite bands from long ago. I guess that gives you an idea of my age. This was written in response to Bloody Sunday.

From Wikipedia:

"Give Ireland Back to the Irish" is a Paul and Linda McCartney song written in response to the events of Bloody Sunday in Northern Ireland on January 30, 1972. The song was released on February 25, 1972 as the debut single by McCartney's new band Wings, and it was the first recorded song by Wings that included Northern Irish guitarist Henry McCullough.

It was completely barred from media exposure in the United Kingdom, being banned by the BBC, Radio Luxembourg and the Independent Television Authority. On the BBC Radio 1 chart show Pick of the Pops, Alan Freeman had to refer to it as "a record by the group Wings".[1]

"From our point of view," said Paul McCartney, "it was the first time people questioned what we were doing in Ireland. It was so shocking. I wrote 'Give Ireland Back to the Irish', we recorded it and I was promptly 'phoned by the Chairman of EMI, Sir Joseph Lockwood, explaining that they wouldn't release it. He thought it was too inflammatory. I told him that I felt strongly about it and they had to release it. He said, 'Well it'll be banned', and of course it was. I knew 'Give Ireland Back to the Irish' wasn't an easy route, but it just seemed to me to be the time. All of us in Wings felt the same about it. But Henry McCullough's brother who lived in Northern Ireland was beaten up because of it. The thugs found out that Henry was in Wings."[2]

The song reached number 1 in the singles charts in the Republic of Ireland and Spain, but it only climbed to number 16 in the UK singles chart and number 21 in the U.S.

And now the song;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRc0ZPcZ7 Xc


Give Ireland back to the Irish
Don't make them have to take it away
Give Ireland back to the Irish
Make Ireland Irish today

Great Britian you are tremendous
And nobody knows like me
But really what are you doin'
In the land across the sea

Tell me how would you like it
If on your way to work
You were stopped by Irish soldiers
Would you lie down do nothing
Would you give in, or go berserk

Give Ireland back to the Irish
Don't make them have to take it away
Give Ireland back to the Irish
Make Ireland Irish today

Great Britainn and all the people
Say that all people must be free
Meanwhile back in Ireland
Theres a man who looks like me

And he dreams of God and country
And hes feeling really bad
And hes sitting in a prison
Should he lie down do nothing
Should give in or go mad

Give Ireland back to the Irish
Don't make them have to take it away
Give Ireland back to the Irish
Make Ireland Irish today

Give Ireland back to the Irish
Don't make them have to take it away
Give Ireland back to the Irish
Make Ireland Irish today

And may all your dreams be green.

by Fleaflicker 2008-03-17 05:47AM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

I am, as usual, amazed by the depth and thoroughness of your diary.  
DKos has certainly lost one of its best diarists.  But DKos' loss is MyDD's gain.

Thank you for setting the record straight.

by johnnygunn 2008-03-17 06:33AM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

and obama campaign propaganda withers in the face of the facts. great job, alegre!

by campskunk 2008-03-17 06:45AM | 0 recs
OT

Campskunk, would you please post the name of the Hillary Clinton Yahoo group so I can try again.  I think I finally got through the Yahoo barrier, but I didn't know which group to join.  There's a lot of Hillary action going on over there.

Thanks.

by Radiowalla 2008-03-17 07:45AM | 0 recs
Re: St. Patrick's Day Eve - A Plan for N. Ireland

From my account as a Brit, the British government tried for years without much success to end the violence in Northern Ireland.  We wanted the 2 sides to stop shooting and talk but every time the cease fire wouldn't last for long.  A bomb would went off somewhere, and the fighting continued.  As time passed, the long term peace sure felt like an impossible quest.

In my opinion, the significant force to the peace process happened when the women from both sides united and made their voice heard, as mothers, wives, daughters, that they wanted the conflict to end.   I gave full credit to Hillary for her initiative and effort to make the N. Irish women coalition be a significant force to the peace process.  

by JoeySky18 2008-03-17 07:11AM | 0 recs
Thanks as always !! Just to add, yet again

My perspective on this.

The No. Ireland peace process is not only an example of Cliton's experience, but it is ALSO an example of a peace process that WOULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGED if it was handled by a president who thinks things like.

1. Issuing a visa to Gerry Adams.

2. Going to Belfast and meeting with Gerry Adams.

would and should have been done without preconditions.

Yes.  I make it clear.  A president who did not understand the role of preconditions in a peace process would have made things worse.

Can Obama make things worse than they are right now?

Out of the realm of possibility you say?  How can things be even worse?

They can be.

by Edgar08 2008-03-17 08:26AM | 0 recs
Is This Necessary?
By the way, I hear they extended an invitation to visit with BO while they were in town but he blew them off.
If this is accurate you should source it... otherwise it probably shouldn't be in there.
by TooFolkGR 2008-03-17 10:51AM | 0 recs
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