Manjoo is demanding PROOF that the 2004 election was stolen before he will allow an full Federal investigation into recent voting irregularities and electronic voting machine technology to even begin.
Of course there is NO PROOF. There can't be. Evidence gathering has not even begin. FBI agents have to have started shoving piles of evidence in plastic bags before the concept of PROOF can be even discussed.
This issue here is... is there PROBABLE CAUSE to believe crimes took place that lead to the voting irregularities seen in the 2004 election? YES. The exit polls ALONE establish PROBABLE CAUSE, and there are piles and piles of eyewitness statements and video evidence to further establish probable cause that criminal acts took place.
You want the primary reason election reform has gotten no traction as an issue among progressive activists? Because Markos Moulitsas Zuniga has done more soldiering for acceptance of 2004 election as legitimate and valid than anyone on the right wing. Right wing extremists did not have defend what happened in Ohio on election night 2004. Kos, Armando, and DHinMI gutted any chance the 2004 voting irregularities had of reaching the mainstream.
Right wingers did not have to go to the M$M claiming voting rights activists were "conspiracy nuts" and "sore losers." Kos, Armando, and DHinMI did that for the neo-cons, in far less kinds terms. Kos used The Daily Kos to cut the legs out of the voting activist movement. Kos has single-handedly done more to marginalize voting rights activists than anyone on the right.
I'm one of the many Kos has banned from the Daily Kos for trying to discuss election day 2004. In my case, I was banned from Daily Kos for calling for Federal INVESTIGATIONS of the events of Election Day 2004. I didn't even go as far as RFK, Jr. did in this Rolling Stone article. I never stated I was certain the election was stolen. I said there were so many questions about Election Day 2004, and about electronic voting machine technology that full and complete Federal (FBI/Justice Dept.) investigation of both needed to happen. I was banned personally by Kos for asking Kos why he refused to support full Federal INVESTIGATIONS.
You want to fix the election process? That road has to go through the Daily Kos before it can get to the political mainstream. Nothing is going to happen on the voting rights issue until Kos stops doing the work of the neo-cons for them by grouping the discussion of Election Day 2004 with Bigfoot and Roswell, NM. Kos needs to front page an apology for being the primary obstacle to progressive action on the voting rights issue. Kos also needs to apologize to a whole lot of great progressive activists who advocated for voting rights issues that Kos improperly labeled as "trolls" and banned for saying less controvesial statements than RFK, Jr. just said in Rolling Stone.
I posted this about a week ago over at Blue Oregon as a comment to a kid who got star-struck by a powerful Republican here in Oregon...
"(Jerome),you're suffering from "celebrity awe." You've personally met someone you see on the news regularly, and you've been star struck. It happens. I think I gurgled when I met Gary Hart. I actually managed to say something when I met Doug Wilder.... about sports. ACK! Then when I went to work in radio back east, I got a "You're awesome" out to Melissa Ethridge, and a "You're funny" out to Richard Belzer. Not much better.
This trend continued when I moved to SoCal. I just stared and looked stupid at Brent Spiner in a Virgin Records, and Jimmy Smits in a Brentwood grocery store. Same thing again Meg Ryan and Dennis Quaid walked into the same grocery story a couple of weeks later.
Regular people meeting famous people often causes regular people to act stupid. That's fine. It's forgivable. Now get over it. Politicians are paid to make you like them. If the experience of meeting powerful politicians wasn't a powerful tool to sway people, politicians wouldn't go out meeting people as much as they do. Politicians fill their schedules with public appearances because public appearances work.
Now that you have had this phenomenon explained to you, you need to wipe the awe-struck expression off your face and get back to work.... and next time, if you want to meet nice people, go to a pub."
Jerome, you've been sweet-talked by a powerful person that needs you more than you need him, had some cash thrown at you, and it made you tossed everything you believe in aside.
Mark Warner embodies everything that is wrong in the Democratic Party. However, I don't need to tell you that, Jerome. You already know that.
I couldn't be more disappointed in you, Jerome.
Don't bother banning me. This is my last post here.
After seeing what the last couple of CAT 5 hurricanes have done to "disperse" residents of mobile homes along the coast in the Deep South, that very well may change in a lot shorter time span than anyone realizes.
You know what some people call residents of trailer parks in the South. I don't use that particular phrase, but Jeff Foxworthy does. A couple more Andrews turning 100 mile corridors of said trailer parks into Reynolds Wrap might alter those voting trends quite dynamically.
Before Wilder became Governor of Virginia, I was one of the happy idiots who believed that VA and the South had made huge progress since the Civil Rights struggle in the 60's. I was mortified by all of the people who unveiled serious bigotries during Wilder's campaign for Governor and while he was Governor. I'm not just talking about those involved in politics. I'm also talking about people I interacted with on a day-to-day basis. Friends. Co-workers. The amount of people that suddenly began to regularly use the n-word when they thought only other white people were around to hear them was shocking and embarrassing. It completely shattered my view of the world and those I was sharing that world with at the time. It was one of the primary motivators for me selling everything I couldn't fit in my car and moving 3000 miles West.
More than a decade later, little has changed back there. It's not just in the GOP, either. The GOP obviously tends to be a lot more biased, but there's more than enough bigotry on our side of the aisle to make it a truly bipartisan problem. Every time I see a "blame Wilder" post come up on a VA related thread off-topic out the blue from a Virginia Democrat, I generally know why it's being put on the thread. Mark Warner has pushed that button more than a few times when it was politically expedient to do so. It's why I so obviously and visably dislike Mark Warner. I've seen what he will do to boost his popularity, and it make me want to puke.
There's a lot of great people back in Virginia trying to change things for the better. I hope they succeed. They are better people than me for staying to try to change things there. I was a stupid, deluded, white suburban kid who just couldn't handle continuing to be around that world once my illusions about it had been stripped.
It mentioned when talking about the movie Dr. Strangelove that SAC commander Curtis LeMay and the next SAC commander really were as certifiably insane as their fictional counterparts in the movie Dr. Strangelove.
Another documentary that gives a lot of insight is The Dogs of War. Look at the deadpan expression on Robert McNamara's face as he discusses the millions killed by the bombing runs on Japan he helped LeMay design. McNanama very flatly admitted he and LeMay would have been charged with war crimes if the US had lost that war.
1 8-oz. can crushed pineapple
1 3-oz. pkg. orange gelatin
3/4 cup boiling water
3/4 cup mayonnaise
1 cup finely shredded cabbage
1 cup shredded carrot
1/2 cup raisins
1/2 cup chopped walnuts
3 egg whites, beaten stiffly
Drain pineapple, reserve liquid. Dissolve gelatin in hot water then add the reserved liquid. Chill until partially set. In a large bowl, beat until fluffy. Add mayonnaise. Fold in pineapple, cabbage, carrots, raisins and nuts. Then fold in egg whites. Chill until set...."
* measuring cups and spoons
* large cauldron (or mixing bowl)
* cookie sheet
* sauce pan
* mixing spoon
* Parent Wizard
* 1/2 cup margarine
* 1/2 cup white sugar
* 4 teaspoons powdered cocoa
* 1/2 cup packed brown sugar
* 1 dragon egg (or if they are scarce use a chicken egg)
* 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract
* 1 cup flour
* 3/4 cup rolled oats
* green food coloring
* 1/2 cup shredded wheat or wheat flake cereal
Mixing the Concoction:
1. Ask Parent Wizard to help you.
2. Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
3. Melt margarine, white sugar and cocoa in saucepan.
4. Mix brown sugar, egg, vanilla, flour and rolled oats in cauldron.
5. Pour melted cocoa mixture into cauldron and mix well.
6. Squirt some green food coloring (for aesthetic quality) into the concoction. Stir well.
7. Add cereal and squish the gunk with your hands. Leave lumps.
8. "Drop" the dough into turds on the baking sheet.
9. Cook 9 to 11 minutes.
10. Use oven mitts to remove the baked turds from the oven. Be careful.
11. Let them cool, or you can serve steaming turds to your closest friends...."