David Sirota on and about Dkos and the Netroots. - Update

David Sirota has a diary up right now that speaks to the heart of what is and has been happening to the netroots, especially at Dkos.

Evidently he has not only been getting beat up in the comments by the typical crowd at Dkos, but also by some of the front page posters who he is calling out.

What confuses me is that it seems that everytime I post anything now at DailyKos, a small group of very vitriolic and very angry people personally attack me - and by that I mean attack me as a person,
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The thrust of the attacks, exemplified in the comments section of this post yesterday, are that I am a horrible person for promoting my work, and an especially awful person for promoting my work on DailyKos. This was the crux of ct's criticism yesterday.  It then degenerates from there - with people DailyKos front-page posters like Laura Clawson using the comments section to tell me that, in fact, my work is "marginal" and unimportant.  DHinMI, a Capitol Hill staffer, typically chimes in with one or another version of a comment that implies I should just leave the community. Again, the attacks rarely - if ever - have anything to do with the actual substance of the issues I am covering and reporting on.

I think you should check it out.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/132444/743/145/462584

On top of this we have NO diaries on the front page that speak at all about Obama not going to the State Of The Black Union event in New Orleans. There are diaries that are coming up that are calling Tavis Smiley a "Traitor" for criticizing Obama for not showing up at this event.

Is Tavis Smiley a Traitor to America and Blacks?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/14120/0005/136/462609

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Can We Recover?

We are days out for the NH primary and I find myself reading the comments on here, and worse find myself making comments on here, that speak to a huge division in our community if not the entire Democratic Party. We had a great year in 2006 and for the most part I would like to believe we came together. We have been winning, as a team, because the overall message of our Party is what the country needs right now AND because the Republicans have destroyed their own credibility and done untold damage to our society and our nation. My fear is that we are throwing this all away with our bickering.

I believe that we should have a contested primary and I believe that we should have a lively debate within our Party. What I don't understand is how it has boiled down to petty hatred as quickly as it has. We have three top tier candidates who would all make excellent, though vastly different, Presidents. They are also all amazing candidates who can surely do what is necessary to beat whichever lightweight the R's throw at us in November (the only possibly exception is McCain, who still seems to enjoy a strange popularity, but I think even he is quite beatable.)

My fear is that it is all going to get thrown away because of we are going to tear ourselves apart. I don't mean the candidates either. They will all survive to be good Democrats and to fight another day regardless of what happens. But what about us? I have seen things, and I fear said things, in these discussions that are far worse than anything we would say to, or about, our opponents. We are all, I thought, on the same team here. Or at least I think we were, I am not sure there is any going back to that now.

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No Matter Who Loses Iowa, Community Values Win

I thought this was interesting.  Check out this piece by Sally Kohn on the Iowa caucuses over at the Movement Vision Lab (www.movementvisionlab.org):

A recent poll from the Des Moines Register found that many voters are still undecided as we approach the Iowa caucuses [this] evening. But on the issue of values, voters have already made up their minds. Community values are the top priority in this year's election.

Particularly among likely caucus goers who were registered Democrat (the majority of those polled by the Register), bread-and-butter issues that affect all of us such as the Iraq War, healthcare and the economy are more important to voters than divisive issues spread by fear-mongering. Issues like terrorism, immigration and religious values are really stand-ins for exclusion, isolation and discrimination. But the vast majority of voters --- and caucus goers --- reject the scapegoating politics of us-versus-them. The majority of voters know we're all in it together, that we all do better when we all do better, that when we work together to help everyone in our nation and our world, we all benefit. This is the message of this election.

Community values beat strong in the heartland of America. Family farmers know that corporate factory farms hurt local growers in Mexico and in Iowa. Factory workers know that free trade policies have only helped big business but hurt workers in China and in South Carolina. Parents know that the greed of HMOs and drug makers is limiting access to health care in Africa and in Arizona. Across the country and the world, we know that our problems are the same --- and so our solutions: to put people before profits and communities before corporations. These are the values Iowans will bring with them to the caucuses Thursday night.

Verne Tigges, a caucus goer from Carroll, Iowa, and a leader with Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement, summed it up best: "It's time to put the common good first." On Thursday, Verne Tigges will caucus for community values.

The Des Moines Register poll indicated that Independents will decide the outcome of the Iowa caucuses. These are the voters who have rejected the divisive mud slinging by political parties bought and sold by the corporate elite. These are the voters who have resisted the myth that the only values are discriminatory, hateful values. These are the voters who have refused to believe that the private sector can solve all our problems and government has no role to play. What do they stand for...

Read on here:  http://www.movementvisionlab.org/blog/no -matter-who-loses-iowa-community-values- win

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Calling All Hillary Supporters! (Links Galore)

Cross-posted at DailyKos.com

Ok you guys - in an effort to get organized here and on other sites, I'm using my diary today to post links to useful information on Hillary's record, and offer this up as a space for others to share their links as well.

I've posted this stuff in the past in the hopes that undecided Dems will actually read the information, and I get the sense that people are actually starting to cut through the noise and distortions, and are actually looking at her record.  This is a good thing!  I'm convinced that once people take a look at her record and listen to what she's got to say, the more impressed they'll be and will start to understand what I've known for a long time - that Hillary is our strongest candidate for the general election next year and will make one hell of a President.  

So jump with me for more information and links - and to share what you've found...

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Something to think about: The Wooden Bowl

I guarantee you will remember the tale of the Wooden Bowl tomorrow, a week from now, a month from now, a year from now.

A frail old man went to live with his son, daughter-in-law, and four-year old grandson. The old man's hands trembled, his eyesight was blurred, and his step faltered. The family ate together at the table.

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