Joe Tells it Like it is, Right in the face of CHENEY

This is our fighter foax, who will bloody MacCain and help Barack Obama govern with some REAL straight talk if need be!

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"Surely the Abu Ghraib prison scandal didn't help. Should Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld or other Bush officials resign?
Biden: I was in the Oval Office the other day, and the president asked me what I would do about resignations. I said, "Look, Mr. President, would I keep Rumsfeld? Absolutely not." And I turned to Vice President Cheney, who was there, and I said, "Mr. Vice President, I wouldn't keep you if it weren't constitutionally required." I turned back to the president and said, "Mr. President, Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld are bright guys, really patriotic, but they've been dead wrong on every major piece of advice they've given you. That's why I'd get rid of them, Mr. President -- not just Abu Ghraib." They said nothing. Just sat like big old bullfrogs on a log and looked at me."

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My thoughts on the VP

Things around here have gotten a bit too much like a kindergarten playground.  Hilary didn't get either nominations so you can either a.) dig your feet into the ground, kicking and screaming that it just isn't fair or b.) realize that if you shut your mouth and open your eyes, you may learn something here.

Have we all fallen for the cowboy mentality?  The world isn't fair and you don't always get what you want.  This is a means to an end that we all want.  We want a better future.  We want to stop being put on the edge of our seats with fear or despair at whatever the president is doing in foreign or home soil.  There is too much at stake to have such a division in the party.

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Biden will be a good surrogate for Obama

The case for Joe Biden as Barack Obama's running mate is simple: he's got a lot of experience at the federal level, particularly in foreign policy. That will reassure voters who may be concerned about Obama's resume and blunt a major line of attack from John McCain (whose ads have been questioning whether Obama is "ready to lead").  

But plenty of people in Washington have served in Congress for 20 or 30 years. What makes Biden better than most of them as a running mate? Media scripts about the "gaffe machine" notwithstanding, I submit that Biden's campaigning ability will be a huge asset to Obama.

I know the stories about Biden putting his foot in his mouth, and I am old enough to remember the Clarence Thomas hearings, when Biden talked too much and didn't put Thomas on the spot enough.

But he is a much better campaigner than people give him credit for.

Of all the presidential candidates, Biden got the best word of mouth from Iowans who attended his events last year. I don't think I ever talked to anyone who went to hear him and walked away unimpressed. I wrote about this last summer and again right before the Iowa caucuses.

If you don't believe me, read accounts by other people who listened to Biden take questions for an hour or more from voters, sometimes just about Iraq and foreign policy but more often about any topic Iowans felt like bringing up.

Biden is not going to need a crash course in federal policy to prepare for the vice-presidential debate, because he knows this stuff inside-out. And despite his reputation for long-windedness, he is able to answer questions in 30 to 60 seconds. In the Democratic candidates' debates last year, Biden did extremely well despite consistently getting 30 percent to 50 percent less time to speak than the front-runners. He often had the most memorable one-liners from those debates too.

Speaking about the news media's blackout of long-shot Democratic contenders, Elizabeth Edwards wrote in this op-ed for the New York Times:

And it's not as if people didn't want this information. In focus groups that I attended or followed after debates, Joe Biden would regularly be the object of praise and interest: "I want to know more about Senator Biden," participants would say.

Biden's speaking style is more aggressive than Obama's, which will help him be the attack dog Obama will need.

I also agree with Jonathan Singer's point that Biden's relative lack of wealth will reinforce the message that the Democratic candidates can relate to ordinary Americans on bread-and-butter economic issues.

Finally, Steve Clemons is absolutely right: Americans are going to love Jill Biden.

Biden wasn't my number one choice for Obama's vice president, but he is going to bring a lot to the table.

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I'm glad it's Biden...

Why?

  1. Longer experience in government than McCain
  2. He owns 1 house... and it's in Delaware... and he commutes to and from it and doesn't live in Washington DC
  3. He is, after 3 decades in the Senate, not a wealthy man, ie: he lives on his Senate Salary and does not turn his political power into $$$
  4. Tremendous foreign policy background
  5. Relatively enemy free... people on both sides love him

Now some bring up his verbosity... I pulled this off YouTube from one of the earlier Presidential Primary Debates. This says it all:

Under The LobsterScope

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Pro-Biden

Well, the strategy worked. Kind of. I'm assuming.

Obama's decision to keep the VP decision to himself as long as he did was obviously a wise one, since this afternoon was a litany of "got the call that he would not be VP, according to Democratic sources" stories. Then, once Biden was (allegedly) contacted, we knew. Actually, we basically knew when the Secret Service showed up. That was kind of a biggie.

For all the showmanship, the only error may have been not releasing the text message at 7ish, for two reasons: to preserve the "you heard it first" narrative and to allow for all types of homemade Obama/Biden signs tomorrow. Que sera sera. The text is out now (apparently, I don't have a cell, but it's on the Obama '08 homepage).

But while trolls and McTrolls and both PUMAs and several genuinely disappointed Democrats mourn the passing of their favorite candidates nascent VP bid, I thought I'd give ten reasons why I'm not displeased with Obama/Biden.

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