The Chuck And Harry Show

As John points out, Chuck Schumer's been on a tear lately, voicing strong support for a public option:

"This is where we are going to end up," he said of a health care overhaul that included a public plan. "And I think, it would be much better for the Senate Finance Committee if we did it in the committee... I think the Senate HELP committee compromised already, because you have a lot of members on the HELP committee who would've liked [the public option] to be much closer to Medicare. The idea seems to be catching everybody's imagination, and sense of fairness. And the only holdouts are sort of ideologues on the Republican side of this saying no government involvement whatsoever."

But he's not freelancing. Schumer and Reid are close partners in leadership -  their 'loud cop/quiet cop' division of labor is strategic:

With Obama very much the public face of the Democratic Party, Reid allows his much more loquacious top lieutenants, Richard J. Durbin of Illinois and Charles E. Schumer of New York, to take more public responsibility for party message delivery and partisan jousting in the Senate while he concentrates on the behind-the-scenes role of wooing colleagues -- the job he excelled at in his six years as whip before becoming floor leader.

Whipping Senators isn't easy - they can't be pushed around like Reps in the House. But the division of labor strategy suits Reid and Schumer well. Schumer doesn't always speak for Senate leadership, but I'd bet he does on health care.



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Why has no one attempted to create a progressive gang of Senators to match the converdem forces?


by bruh3 on Tue Jul 07, 2009 at 10:53:15 AM EST

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Senators are not joiners. They do not act in groups as a rule. Senators think they have to act as if they are near presidential in power, to suit their exalted position. Most often the groupings are around single issue topics, so that they can say as you often see; "I joined with Senator Happywarrior (R) to introduce the bipartisan solution to etc etc." as opposed to "the blankity blank caucus of Senators wants to discuss with the President."  

Committees are important, and official, but not clubs.


by commentist on Tue Jul 07, 2009 at 03:45:32 PM EST
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There are also not enough (none / 0)

progressive Senators in the Senate to make that much of a difference.

That and Senators are beasts unto themselves. Many of them get out of the House because the House stifles independence. The worst thing you can do is try to push them around or strongarm them, they laugh in your face...they face their voters, who mostly have short memory spans, every six years.

The House is much easier to whip, because they're entire job is a campaign.


Keep Yelling, Nobody's Listening -SallyCat
by DTOzone on Tue Jul 07, 2009 at 05:26:50 PM EST
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I think there may be some kind of force working behind the scenes as I mention in my just posted diary based on a Roll Call article.


by bruh3 on Tue Jul 07, 2009 at 06:57:41 PM EST
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There are apparently 10 to 15 who can make or break the bill so Reid has told Baucus to back off because such a number would guarantee the bill will fail in the Senate. I think that sound we hear is the tetonic shifting of power in D.


by bruh3 on Tue Jul 07, 2009 at 06:58:57 PM EST
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Harry Reid exelled as whip? (none / 0)

News to me. What did he accomplish during his years (2001 - 2005) as Democratic whip? Huge tax cuts for the rich? Huge support for the Iraq war? Extra votes for Alito and Roberts to the Supreme Court? Hundreds of billions of dollars to fund the Iraq war? The bankruptcy bill of 2005? Retroactive cover for illegal wiretapping via the FISA Amendments Act of 2008?

Harry Reid excelled at whipping Democrats for the benefit of Bush and the Republicans.


by NealB on Tue Jul 07, 2009 at 11:05:36 AM EST


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