Pressuring Congress To Pass The Stimulus Package

With a plurality of Americans now saying they oppose the the stimulus package currently making its way through congress and with support among elected officials softening in kind, President Obama has taken to the airwaves to sell the plan to the American people. Of course, the media is at best an unreliable narrator, giving Republicans a forum to discuss the plan (often allowing them to refer to is as a "bailout" without challenge) as though they are good faith arbiters in the process. So it's good to see the president utilize his Obama For America infrastructure to get around the media filter and go directly to 13 million of his closest friends.

Here's an excerpt from the e-mail dispatched today from David Plouffe:

President Obama discussed why we need an immediate effort to create millions of jobs while investing in long-term challenges like energy and health care.

He called for swift investment in job creation while continuing to assist those who are out of work, without health insurance, or in danger of losing their homes.

The Economic Recovery plan passed the House of Representatives, and the Senate is preparing to vote on it very soon. The final version can and will be improved. But the President's core plan will positively affect families and communities all across the country.

You can help make sure the American people have all the facts so they can support this crucial effort to boost our struggling economy.

Plouffe is asking people to share the video below and to host or attend an economic recovery house party this weekend. You can sign up at BarackObama.com HERE.

Grassroots action from the left is crucial. As Robert Borosage writes in an e-mail from his Campaign For America's Future:

100 to 1. We've gotten word from our progressive friends on Capitol Hill that for every one hundred phone calls to Congress from conservatives trying to obstruct change, there is only one phone call from a citizen demanding passage of President Obama's economic recovery bill.

Backed by this conservative grassroots pressure, Senate Republicans are moving rapidly as a block to obstruct -- pushing reforms that are designed essentially to make the plan fail. They're demanding that billions be cut from a plan that, if anything, is already too small, and that more be diverted to top-end tax cuts.

Go HERE for instructions on calling your Senator in support of the stimulus package and to report how the call went.

Our work did not end on November 4th. It only just began.



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Re: Pressuring Congress (none / 0)

This is a) predictable behavior on Democrat and Republican part and b) Dem's are once again reactive. Why didn't the Dems see this before they started? What happened to the vaunted skill of those Obama has around him to counsel him? I thought Emmaneul was supposedly good at this stuff.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 07:18:49 PM EST

Obama dropped the ball (2.00 / 1)

on framing this issue, and now they want the grassroots to clean up the mess.

I noticed that Theda Skocpol woke up and smelled the coffee:

http://tiny.cc/QuPLo


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 07:38:30 PM EST
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Re: Obama dropped the ball (2.00 / 3)

This is also predictable.

They want you to pick up the ball that they dropped so that if it fails, then it's your fault that it fails.

I still lurk over at talkleft, and I found the arguments over there highly instructive. There is a subset making the "well if the progressives had been pushing for this rather than wanting a more progressive bill then it wouldn't have failed" argument.

This again is predictable. If the bill fails, it will be the progressives fault that it failed rather than Obama and his team. This is what they have been doing for a decade or more. "we fail because of the left, and not because of what we do" and this plays to the press until they are ready to then skewer the Dems when it comes the GOP.

The irony of course is that none of this considers what the public needs at all. Just poll and media driven b.s. and spin.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 07:55:17 PM EST
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Re: Instead of trying to point fingers (none / 0)

yes, let's just pretend there is no one is charge of anything or hold them accountable. that's certainly the smartes way to get things done.

And excuse me? are you seriously saying its the media's fault when just last week many of you were proclaiming Obama brilliant in his handling of the media. Which is it?

There is no 'we" here.

This is all on Obama and conservative Democrats. They broke it. they own it.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 08:53:15 PM EST
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Re: Who's "you?" (none / 0)

You mean excuse you for the spin? No.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:25:15 PM EST
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Re: That's a little ridiculous (1.00 / 1)

I gave you a 1 because this exactly what I mean by the conservative Democratic mentality. You fuck up- its all of us, but when it comes time before hand to get shit done- progressives are the ugly step sisters. Again, you broke it, you own it.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 08:54:27 PM EST
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Re: That's a little ridiculous (none / 0)

I'm pretty sure that you can't just troll-rate people for a difference of opinion.  


by rfahey22 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:08:12 PM EST
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Re: That's a little ridiculous (1.00 / 1)

I am pretty sure this isn't just you with a different view. It's you spinning. If they want to accept this here. they will let me know. if so,t he discourse willa lways be staggered as it is in the popular press toward soeone who is willing to distort facts the most.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:19:56 PM EST
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Re: You know man (1.00 / 1)

Yes, I am narrow minded when it comes to people spinning from the issue of accountability and responsibility. Since that seems to be your definition, I am guilty as charged. This is really all old school "how can I make the progressive or liberal do what I want?" Please, you are going to try harder. The issue remains the spin that you did above about who is to blame for where the stimulis package is. That blames rests solely on the shoulder of the guy who focused on GOP leadership votes over selling his plan a) to the public and b) with a sense that he would have to expend political capital.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:30:55 PM EST
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Re: You know man (none / 0)

I don't care if you argue with me anymore. I will post in response to any arguments I see you make that are false.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:34:02 PM EST
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Re: That's a little ridiculous (none / 0)

Huh?  You're really not making any allies in this great troll-hunt of yours.


by rfahey22 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:02:03 PM EST
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Re: That's a little ridiculous (2.00 / 1)

You downrated because he has a CONSERVITAVE mentality. That's a goddamned laugh riot. Go back to talkleft. I'm sure you're very much at home there.
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by lojasmo on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:15:08 PM EST
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Re: That's a little ridiculous (1.00 / 1)

I down rated him for telling a lie that he know,a nd I suspect you know is a lie.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:18:35 PM EST
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Re: That's a little ridiculous (none / 0)

you down rating people for spinning?

That's rich cause you are a hyper Anti-Obama spin machine. you were spinning everything against him during the first weeks and now is not any different.Nice trying in avoiding any fault for being a chicken shit armchair complainer for everything. people like you are part of the bad PR against this stimulus.


by Bury on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:51:57 PM EST
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Re: That's a little ridiculous (none / 0)

I actually suspect what he said is the truth, and that what you said is a lie.
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by lojasmo on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 11:12:25 PM EST
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Re: That's a little ridiculous (1.00 / 1)

 So, according to your definition of "progressive" to be progressive I must accept he spin that progressives share in the blame for Obama's mistakes? No thanks. Progressive without accountability is not progressive. It's just labels and jargons.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:27:35 PM EST
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Re: Pressuring Congress (2.00 / 2)

"With a plurality of Americans now saying they oppose the the stimulus package currently making its way through congress..."

No they don't.  They oppose what the media is telling them is not a stimulus package.

The problem is that the media, the blogs and people in general, are not doing their part to read the stimulus package and understand what it's about.

Rasmussen has been pushing BS polls for months now.  I don't trust them one bit, especially on an issue as complicated as this one, where certain wording can completely skew the results.


by RussTC3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 07:33:20 PM EST

Re: Pressuring Congress To Pass (1.75 / 4)

Too little, too late.... a new new Deal is dead.  Reaganomics will live forever, I'm afraid...

This is EXACTLY what they did in 1993, and the dems just completely ignored history on this one....


"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"
by LordMike on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 07:48:06 PM EST

Re: Pressuring Congress To Pass (1.66 / 3)

You can't have it both ways.  You can't complain, complain, complain about the bill last week, and then be surprised when the media and the Republicans and even some Democrats are pushing for changes, thereby threatening the passage of a good bill.

The complaints by Democrats and the vocal minority have allowed the Republicans to gain the upper hand.

Stupidity doesn't die quickly.


by RussTC3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 07:57:41 PM EST
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Re: Pressuring Congress To Pass (1.50 / 2)

Ig ave you a 1. You got that 1 for basically spinning with b.s about having it both ways. Obmaa did not try to bring progressives into the process. He focused on trying to woo the Republicans. Your attempt to deflect from Obama are not smart process or policy making. It's what bush's people used to do when they were challenged for their errors.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 08:55:48 PM EST
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Thanks (2.00 / 1)


by RussTC3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:48:39 PM EST
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time to play hardball (2.00 / 3)

What stops Obama from huddling with Reid, Pelosi and other key Democrats and drafting a new bill?

The Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street assholes can take it or leave it.

And Jud Gregg? If he gives a whiff of subverting the POTUS, he's fired.

Time to play hardball, Barack. The Republicans are serious assholes. And what you can't pass not b/c of the filibuster you'll be able to pass in 2011.


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:24:36 PM EST

Re: time to play hardball (none / 0)

And it's probably time to appoint a prosecutor to look at crimes during the Bush years.

Have Rahm talk to Mitch. Have him explain there's one side that's going to fuck and one side that's going to get fucked if he doesn't play ball.


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:26:50 PM EST
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I wish Obama had more LBJ in him (2.00 / 2)

but that just isn't the kind of person he is.

We'll all pay the price for his decision to let Republicans control whether his stimulus is deemed to be successful. Now they can make Obama look like a failure by voting against his bill, and he will continue to make concessions in vain.

We need Obama to be focused on the best bill for turning the economy around, but he's more worried about the optics of being bipartisan.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:36:59 PM EST
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Full Court press (none / 0)

The full court press both here (with several posters) and now in articles continue to blame "liberals" and 'progressives" for Obama's mistakes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090204/us _time/08599187691200

This is also as predictable as the sun coming up.


by bruh3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:33:09 PM EST

Your (none / 0)

 Chicken littislism is as predictable as the sun IMO.


by Bury on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:54:39 PM EST
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Re: Full Court press (none / 0)

I didn't read that article yet, but if what you say is correct, I don't understand why you're surprised.

Liberals never seem to go about enacting policy correctly anymore.

They complain about getting things done, but when it comes to actually getting things done, they fall apart (choosing to focus on extremely insignificant things allowing for the other side to take advantage -- Republicans: "We liked President Obama's bill, but what the House passed isn't his bill.").

This current situation is all the evidence you need for that.

Many liberal politicians (actually, more like liberal commentators, there are certainly a good few successful liberal politicians out there) come from the Lou "faux-Independent" Dobbs school of thinking:

All talk, no solutions.

And by the way, I consider myself a liberal progressive even though that label likely doesn't mean what it should any more.


by RussTC3 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:55:56 PM EST
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Re: Pressuring Congress To Pass The Stimulus Packa (2.00 / 1)

It's truly amazing. Obama has done more in two weeks to advance the progressive cause than ANY president in 99% of our lifetimes. The "Progressives" on this board see that as a mandate to bitch and moan, and call everybody else "conservative" for pointing out that Obama has done a shitload of good in the first few days of his presidency, and has been an executive for ALL Americans, compromising where he saw fit, and getting tons of stuff done. Precious here, it is.
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by lojasmo on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:36:24 PM EST

here's what I think you are missing (none / 0)

The good things Obama has done during the last two weeks (lifting gag rule, halting Bush's midnight executive orders, etc.) are the same things any Democratic president would have done.

The mistakes he's been making (repeated concessions to Republicans, giving them way more power than they deserve) are mistakes only Obama would have made.

None of the other Democratic candidates for president would have communicated so clearly that they deeply desired Republican cooperation on this bill. The generic Democratic president would put a token Republican or two in the cabinet, but only Mr. Post-Partisan would appoint a conservative Republican who doesn't even support the president's economic policy to run the Commerce Department. That is idiotic.

Obama's negotiating strategy has been a disaster.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:41:55 PM EST
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Re: here's what I think you are missing (none / 0)

"Obama's negotiating strategy has been a disaster."

you ability to judge Obama's strategy is as viable as your support for your girl in the primary. and your wishful analysis on how she could have ever won in Iowa. They are biased and wrong.


by Bury on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:59:06 PM EST
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you are an idiot (1.00 / 1)

and not a very good reader. I was a precinct captain for Edwards (and a front-page "candidate blogger" for Edwards here).

I spent more hours of my life trying to derail the Hillary inevitability train than 95 percent of the early Obama supporters I know.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:25:19 PM EST
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Down rated for name calling (none / 0)

You seem to throw insults around a lot. grow up. Fact is your bias is blatant almost in your every post here and on openleft. you always slant against whatever obama does 24/7 and guise it in sugger coating it to seem reasonable. whether Edwards or Hillary (who were you for after edwards dropped out?) you were always anti-Obama slanted and still are.


by Bury on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:40:14 PM EST
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I didn't like Obama or Hillary (none / 0)

and criticized them both before and after Edwards dropped out.

I love watching the Obama supporters continue to make excuses for his poor decisions. If you're so happy with his economic policy, you may as well have supported Hillary--his economic team comes straight from the Clintonomics camp. Though I'll admit that neither Bill nor Hillary would have appointed a Commerce Secretary as bad as Gregg.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:49:59 PM EST
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the corporate media (none / 0)

will always aid and abet Republican attacks against "scary liberals." That's why Obama's fantasy about post-partisanship and getting 80 votes in the Senate for his stimulus bill has been so naive.

When the people you're trying to win over are not negotiating with you in good faith, it's idiotic to let the media and your opponents define success in terms of "getting Republicans on board" rather than passing the best bill.

The system is rigged because corporations have too much power in Washington. Replacing corporate Republicans with corporate Democrats isn't enough. Some Obama supporters have woken up to that reality, but apparently it's going to take you a little longer.


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by desmoinesdem on Thu Feb 05, 2009 at 05:52:22 AM EST
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I always thought it was bad strategy (2.00 / 1)

for him to elevate post-partisanship, and I am sorry to see that my suspicions have been confirmed. He moves way too far toward the Republican position and seems more concerned with the optics of bipartisanship than the substance of policy.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:27:11 PM EST
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Re: here's what I think you are missing (none / 0)

Not to pick nits, but the basis of your post is entirely based upon conjecture. What we can say with assuredness is that fantastic gains have been made since Obama has become president. Arguably, more significant change than has been made in the first 100 days of any democratic presidency in our lifetimes (I'm forty, and I'd guess you're not much older than me.. though I could be wrong)
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by lojasmo on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 11:04:55 PM EST
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Re: DON'T MAKE POST TITLE TOO LONG TO RE!!!! (none / 0)

If grassroots lefty support is important why has he spent every god damn fucking day since November 5 kicking us in the balls/vadge?


by MNPundit on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:43:25 PM EST

these house parties (none / 0)

are probably mostly for collecting names and e-mail addresses for fundraising purposes.

I don't think for a second that Obama cares what the grassroots Democrats think.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:53:01 PM EST
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Breaking (none / 0)

Obama has the votes to pass the bill this weak in senate. CNN

He met with couple of moderate repugs today and smacked them down from the bully polpet. it seem to have done the trick and he will prob have the bill by the deadline.

take that chicken shit armchairers, doom gloomers and complainers. hah.


by Bury on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:04:22 PM EST

Yub (none / 0)

Now that Obama's plan is not apparently doomed as they claim, time to move on to the next subject to complain about. I have seen these types complain about Gitmo OE, dismissing SCHIP & letbetter, dismissing torture EO & his green energy steps. Some are just shameless and some are the product of fast food and instant gratification generation.


by Bury on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:33:48 PM EST
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the generic Democratic president (none / 0)

would have signed the Lilly Ledbetter and SCHIP bills.

Only Obama would put so much effort into making concessions to Republicans this early in the game. He has not been focused on drafting the best economic stimulus bill--he has been focused on proving how bipartisan he is.


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by desmoinesdem on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:51:51 PM EST
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yea (2.00 / 1)

Everything good he has done would be done by any dem! they don't count! all he dose is bad otherwise! we get it. and my point proven.


by Bury on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:57:40 PM EST
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Re: the generic Democratic president (2.00 / 1)

Any republican would have signed the bills Obama has. Obama is hitler, also.
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by lojasmo on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 11:06:43 PM EST
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Re: the generic Democratic president (none / 0)

I think Obama has made some mistakes on the stimulus but he is moving very quickly to change things.  I can't remember a President who has moved on so many things after 2 weeks in office.

Also, I don't think you are correct that any Dem president would have done all these things in their first 2 weeks in office.  I like Hillary Clinton but I am not sure she would have either shutdown Gitmo immediately or imposed a $500K cap on exec compensation (she was far closer to Wall Street than Obama).

It's fine to think he isn't doing as good a job on the stimulus which is the most important thing on his agenda but to pooh pooh the other stuff seems more than a tad unfair.


by jmnyc on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 11:24:40 PM EST
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Obama's turn (none / 0)

All well and good for them to finally come after us for our support. But where is Obama supporting US in the ways he promised he would? Why have THREE cabinet appointments gone to Republicans? Why all the concessions to Republicans before he fights for Democratic priorities.

Some of us have been fighting to get a Democratic congress and a Democrat elected to the White House for the better part of the past fifteen years! Now, when we've finally got both houses of Congress and the Presidency, Obama spends his first two weeks in office trying to make nice with Republicans. Why? What is he doing? I made hundreds of dollars of contributions to his and other Democratic campaigns all across the country for  the past ten years. I've gone door-to-door to get out the vote for Gore and Dean and Kerry and Obama and so many other DEMOCRATS. I've done my part over all these years. Why isn't Obama doing his part now that we've finally won?

It's not that he doesn't get it; it seems to be that he doesn't care.


by NealB on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 11:51:07 PM EST

well put (none / 0)

Our work did not end on November 4th. It only just began.

Yup.


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