But What About New York 23?

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A lot didn't go well for the Democrats last night. But that doesn't mean that Democratic successes last night should be overlooked, as some like Michael Barone do.

The 2009 election results are certainly not going to make it easy for Speaker Nancy Pelosi to round up the needed 218 votes for Democrats' health care bills.

Wrong. In a race that Barone doesn't even mention in his "[l]essons from the 2009 election results," the Democrats won in a district a plurality of which had not been represented in Congress since 1850. (You think the race would have been omitted from his write up had it turned out the other way?)

In the simplest terms, the special election in New York's 23rd congressional district did exactly what Barone thinks last night's elections did not do -- get Nancy Pelosi closer to 218 votes in the House in favor of healthcare reform (by electing a pro-reform Democrat instead of an anti-reform Conservative to replace a Republican Congressman who was not a vocal supporter of reform). Bill Owens' victory in the race, along with the easy win by John Garimendi in the California 10 special election also held last night, give the Speaker two votes for reform she didn't have yesterday. Further, they showed Democrats on Capitol Hill that Democrats can win running in favor of reform in a climate dominated by discussion of healthcare.

The House will be voting on healthcare reform on Saturday, so we'll know soon enough who's right -- whether last night's results will inhibit Speaker Pelosi in her quest for 218 or not. I'd bet she gets to 218. And if Barone wants to take me up on that bet, I'm sure we could come up with some charitable purposes that could serve as the beneficiary of such a wager.



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Barone is an embarrassment (none / 0)

His Republican bias is evident throughout Almanac of American Politics as well as his columns.  He should not be taken seriously.


by Thaddeus on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 10:34:32 PM EST

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   which is why I no longer buy the Almanac of American Politics. I have the 2002 and 2004 editions and while it can be a useful reference source for things like election results and birth dates of politicians its analysis is suspect, at best.


by Zack from the SFV on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 05:13:36 PM EST
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I'll bet she gets 220, with Garamandi and Owens being vote numbers 219 and 220 ;)

Actually I think she'll cross 230+. Remember to take notes on those who vote against it.

As for the GOP - any news on Cao? He seemed amiable to supporting HCR at one point.


by vecky on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 01:44:34 AM EST

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I understand Owens opposes the public option.

http://www.observer.com/4850/meet-bill-o wens-dccc-approved-non-democrat-house


by dMarx on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 02:47:07 PM EST

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One week ago, Owens said the public option in the current House bill was "reasonable".  Your link is from August.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 03:11:03 PM EST
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