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New York/Maine Results Thread

by Jonathan Singer, Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 12:11:26 AM EST

Fox News calls the race for Democrat Owens

With three-quarters of the vote in up in New York, Democrat Bill Owens continues to lead. Marriage equality hanging in the balance in Maine, now trailing.

New York 23
Bill Owens (D): 58,787 votes (49.0 percent)
Doug Hoffman (C): 54,518 votes (45.4 percent)
With 85 percent of precincts reporting as of 11:45 PM Eastern
Maine Marriage Equality (vote to overturn)
No: 227,251(47.61 percent)
Yes: 250,108 (52.39 percent)
With 83 percent of precincts reporting as of 12:30 AM Eastern

More as we hear it, and more over at Twitter @jonathanhsinger...

Update [2009-11-4 0:34:40 by Charles Lemos]: I have ceased to update the NY-23 results now that Hoffman has conceded. I am still updating the Maine Marriage Equality results.

Tags: New Jersey, NJ-Gov, Governor 2009, NY-23, New York, Maine, Marriage Equality (all tags)

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Re: New Jersey Polls Close (none / 0)

If Corzine wins that race with his favorability rating that would be a history making event.....

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by lori on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:12:19 PM EST

Re: New Jersey Polls Close (none / 0)

What did he close at, 37% approval rating? yea, that would be some kind of record. I don't see it happeing-- would be too big a fluke.

by Jerome Armstrong on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:33:37 PM EST
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Re: New Jersey Polls Close (none / 0)

37% is about right , I don't think its ever been done before . Not really sure who has won with such approval ratings...

Corzine should thank Daggett for the tight race , even so I don't see that being enough ....

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by lori on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:48:00 PM EST
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Only one I can think of even close (none / 0)

is when Edwards beat David Duke in Louisiana.

What it says is that NJ is just not very winnable for the GOP.

by fladem on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 09:33:40 PM EST
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Re: New Jersey Polls Close (none / 0)

I asked my boss how he voted, figuring he's a good bellwether since he's the only person I know that waited until the last day to decide between Bush and Kerry. He said he didn't vote... so there you have it. He did say that he couldn't have voted for Christie but I'm not sure if he was joking.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:15:22 PM EST

Re: New Jersey Polls Close (none / 0)

Oh, and I hate to sound like a broken record, but don't forget that a lot of Dems voted early! I assume that's not reflected in the exit polls.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:17:03 PM EST

what percent voted early? (none / 0)

If Corzine's losing indies by 20 points, that's a lot of ground to make up.

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by desmoinesdem on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:29:25 PM EST
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Re: what percent voted early? (2.00 / 1)

In 2008 the breakdown was 44% Dem, 28% Ind, 28% Rep. So if you consolidate the Ds you really don't need that many indies. Still, the game in an offyear election is turnout, so who knows.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:35:39 PM EST
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Re: New Jersey Polls Close (none / 0)

my numbers show Corzine down by 5%.....

Corz will lose unfortunately

by changster on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:26:21 PM EST

Re: New Jersey Polls Close (2.00 / 1)

Karl?

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by lojasmo on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:37:42 PM EST
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Re: New Jersey Polls Close (none / 0)

With 2.9% of precincts, it's 49% for Christie, 43% for Corzine and 7% for Daggett.

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by Charles Lemos on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:43:00 PM EST

Re: New Jersey Polls Close (2.00 / 2)

The NYT has excellent coverage and a great map showing where the returns are coming in.

Almost None of Essex and Hudson County are in, where the Dem base, neither is Camden County. Look at how well Christie is doing in Bergen County, if it looks he is killing Corzine there, then Christie wins.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2009/result s/new-jersey.html

by NJDEM1 on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:45:53 PM EST

Newark (2.00 / 1)

From PolitickerNJ:

Corroborated sources from the city's five wards show the city underperforming compared to the 2005 governor's race.

Four years ago, Jon Corzine received 39,600 votes in the state's biggest city.

Right now, projections show the governor receiving 33,200 votes or 8,000 votes in the North Ward, 8,000 in the South Ward, 7,000 in the West Ward, 4,200 in the East Ward, and 6,000 in the Central Ward.

Not good. Still the real battle is for the burbs.

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by Charles Lemos on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:48:48 PM EST

Re: New Jersey Polls Close (none / 0)

Not feeling particularly well about this one. Hudson is almost half in and Morris and the Northwest Counties aren't even in. Christie will do very well there.

by NJDEM1 on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:52:40 PM EST

great post at Swing State Project (none / 0)

breaks down the 2008 NJ vote by county and projects how well Corzine has to do in various counties in order to squeak by tonight.

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by desmoinesdem on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:58:06 PM EST

Re: New Jersey and New York Polls Close (none / 0)

Look I live in NJ. Corzine has been deeply hated here for a long time. Alot of people here blame him for the local economy and other issues. To top it off, people have this perception that this is such a blue state; again I have lived here my whole life and it is NOT as liberal an area as people think. Some of our most HATED governors have been democrats - think Florio, think McGreevey etc. And Kean & Whitman were fairly well regarded despite the fact that they both disgusted me. And to top it off we have the Bush compatriot scumbag Christie coming in here to govern. We are so screwed. But, my point is that there is a fairly strong tea party movement here and a fair amount of anti-Obama sentiment. There are plenty of those who, aside from their desire to oust Corzine, would be motivated to vote just to send an anti Democratic president message.

by jrsygrl on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 09:12:08 PM EST

Re: New Jersey/Maine Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

We deserved to lose. I do not understand why Corzine is SO unpopular. Things are not that bad here (I just moved here from Philly). Property taxes are not much higher than PA where I live. Yes, where there are million dollar homes, in Princeton they are high--and should be.

Corzine should not have been the nominee even though he hasn't done a bad job considering. His budget was better than DE's and NJ was more in trouble.

So I am stuck with a corrupt Bush crony--awesome. I could live with a moderate republican, but this guy is a wingnut. Democrats misread how angry the public was, even though most of it was the Republican's national economic fault--not Corzine. Sigh.

Philly Liberal

by Airb330 on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 10:13:59 PM EST

Re: New Jersey/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

You really did just move here then. Trust me there are very middle class people having to SELL their homes b/c their property taxes have just risen at an unaffordable rate. Middle class people cannot afford to pay what amounts to salaries for some people in property taxes each year. And I know people who do, who do NOT live in mansions worth millions in the least.

by jrsygrl on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:26:28 PM EST
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Heartbroken (2.00 / 2)

over Corzine.

He's really just a good person.

The flip side is I can now start pushing to dump Geithner and replace him Corzine.

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by Charles Lemos on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 10:25:51 PM EST

We need a frontpage article on replacing (2.00 / 1)

Geithner with Corzine...

by louisprandtl on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 10:28:42 PM EST
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Re: We need a frontpage article on replacing (2.00 / 3)

tomorrow, not tonight.

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by Charles Lemos on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 10:45:05 PM EST
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I was pushing that in December/January (none / 0)

because the polls told us even then Corzine was in trouble.

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by John DE on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 10:58:32 PM EST
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Re: New Jersey/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

Not surprised....jersey is a mess....

by BuckeyeBlogger on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 10:31:26 PM EST

Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

Living in Ohio doesnt suck so bad right now! Good luck with that ultra conservative NJ.

Jon Corzine for Treasury Secretary!!

by bsavage on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 10:55:16 PM EST

Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

NBo we dont need Corzine as Treasurey Secretary,...we have neough Goldman Sachs Shills working for the Government.....we dont need Corzine....

by BuckeyeBlogger on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:00:20 PM EST
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Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

A part of me is glad Corzine lost. The "throwing his weight around" ad was absolutely unacceptable. Trying to stir up anti-fat prejudice to get a seat is no more acceptable than the birther bullshit.

I'm a Rick-o-phobe.

by psychodrew on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:00:29 PM EST

Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

I feel Jersey's pain with Corzine. New York has its own problem with Paterson (I'm not voting for his reelection).

Restore America's Strength.

by RJEvans on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:06:49 PM EST
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Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

Jesus, really?

Some bloviator on the news just called Palin a "heavy hitter" Should we all clutch our pearls about that too?

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by lojasmo on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:29:19 PM EST
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Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

Oh please. That ad was meant to remind voters, "Hey, my opponent is FAT. Don't vote for a fat guy." That kind of politics should be beneath a party that advocates for social justice. Switch parties if you want to play on voter prejudices.

I'm a Rick-o-phobe.

by psychodrew on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:37:46 PM EST
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Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

With over 50% of the population overweight by default is there really any prejudice left against fatness?

by vecky on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 01:28:00 AM EST
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Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

That's what fixed news wants people to believe, but it's bullshit.

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by lojasmo on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:22:17 AM EST
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Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

Hoffman would have to run up the score to win this one....

Tough to do...

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by lori on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:36:38 PM EST

Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

How sweet it is.

by Shaun Appleby on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:40:26 PM EST

Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Looking pretty solid now... thank goodness for small favors. I'll take it.

So once again, we find that evil of the past seeps into the present like salad dressing through cheap wax paper, mixing memory and desire.

by thatrangeofshadesbetweenredandbluestuff on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:43:30 PM EST

1871 (2.00 / 1)

1871 baby 1871

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by Charles Lemos on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:48:06 PM EST

Re: 1871 (2.00 / 1)

It is kind of ironic that our only good news of the night comes from a special election no one would have cared the least bit about if the wingnuts hadn't decided to make it into Gettysburg.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 11:55:03 PM EST
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Re: 1871 (2.00 / 3)

well, a couple of things. It is historic because the NY-23 was last a Democratic district when US Grant was President. Then go across the border to Vermont. Vermont boasts the distinction of being the only state never to have voted for Democrat until 1964. It next voted for a Democrat in 1992 and hasn't looked back since.

There are now just two GOP Congressmen from NY and none from New England. This is re-alignment.

My other suspicion is that this has upped Palin's stock among the GOP base. That is a blessing. She is unelectable.

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by Charles Lemos on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 12:15:10 AM EST
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Re: 1871 (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, but honestly, there was a realignment whether or not we won NY-23. Likewise, if Chris Dodd loses his reelection, it doesn't mean there's a re-realignment, it just means that Dodd kinda sucks.

I do appreciate the history factor. My hometown district elected a Democrat in 2006 for the first time since before the war, and it felt great.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 12:21:59 AM EST
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Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (none / 0)

Owens WINS! That should teach Republicans a lesson.

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by RJEvans on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 12:16:23 AM EST

Re: New York/Maine Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

If anything, it should teach the teabaggers a lesson. It won't, but if they were smart it would. The GOP would have won this seat without their intervention.

It makes the victory even more sweet knowing that these teabags are going to target more "RINO's" next year.

So once again, we find that evil of the past seeps into the present like salad dressing through cheap wax paper, mixing memory and desire.

by thatrangeofshadesbetweenredandbluestuff on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 12:22:00 AM EST
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Who fucking cares? (none / 0)

Democrats won a seat in a district carried by the President in 2008 that will not exist in three years.

Meanwhile, we go down in defeat in more important contests...

But hey, we beat Glenn Beck. That's the most important thing!

I'm a Rick-o-phobe.

by psychodrew on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 12:30:44 AM EST

Re: Who fucking cares? (2.00 / 1)

I care.

How many teabaggers do you know? Their lunacy and belligerence has to be seen to be believed - and, trust me, is NOT to be encouraged.

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by Sumo Vita on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 12:35:54 AM EST
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Re: Who fucking cares? (none / 0)

It's a meaningless victory in a district that disappears in three years. The teabaggers didn't lose to Democrats. They lost to mainstream Republicans. The real winners tonight were the Meghan McCains.

I'm a Rick-o-phobe.

by psychodrew on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 12:46:47 AM EST
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Re: Who fucking cares? (none / 0)

Long-term, I think you are right but near-term Sarah Palin is the winner. But it's deceptive. She is winning control of the GOP but what sort of prize is that?

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by Charles Lemos on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 12:53:15 AM EST
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Re: Who fucking cares? (none / 0)

But Sarah Palin didn't win tonight. She lost. She led the GOP off a cliff.

I'm a Rick-o-phobe.

by psychodrew on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 01:05:16 AM EST
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Re: Who fucking cares? (2.00 / 1)

And we should be happy about that.

by vecky on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 01:30:55 AM EST
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Democrats won both Congressional races (2.00 / 1)

Including a congressional district held by Republicans since 1871.

The message is a repudiation of conservative hijacking (in NY-23) and a sign people are still willing to trust Democrats with Congress.

Governorships have the benefit of sending a wakeup message to the White House while at the same time being relatively pointless for the national agenda.

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by NoFortunateSon on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 01:40:21 AM EST
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