Ill Omen for GOP as Base Jumps Ship to Indy Cands

Republicans may be sounding more bullish on their electoral hopes, and the Beltway media may be buying their optimism (notwithstanding the polling, like the latest survey from The Washington Post and ABC News (.pdf). showing the Democrats maintaining a healthy lead on the generic congressional ballot). But it might be a good time for the GOP to start thinking about what happens when their own voters, unhappy with the Obama administration but also unimpressed by their own party leadership, jump ship to third party candidates (.pdf).

There are also some warning signs in the Republican base. [GOP nominee] Chris Christie has the support of 81% of his fellow partisans, but this is down from 86% in the October 1st poll. Another 8% of GOP voters now give their support to [Independent candidate Chris] Daggett, up from 3% earlier this month.

The finding of Republican voters shifting their support from the GOP nominee to a third party or independent candidate with Republican or conservative background is not limited to the Monmouth University survey of the New Jersey Governor race quoted above. Take a look at the crosstabs from the latest Siena poll (.pdf) out of the special election in New York's 23rd congressional district, which has been in Republican hands since the Civil War era.

ALLDEMGOPIND
Bill Owens (Dem)33551928
Dede Scozzafava (GOP)29174024
Doug Hoffman (Con)23102731

As you can see from the data above, more than one quarter of Republican voters in New York 23 are defecting from the GOP nominee to the candidate running on the Conservative Party line -- a split that is growing and in doing go is easing the Democrats' path to victory.

While Hoffman and Daggett are different types of third party candidates -- Hoffman is running to the right of Scozzafava as a conservative while Daggett, who has deep roots in New Jersey Republican politics, is running as a moderate alternative to Christie -- they are both drawing an increasing percentage of support from disaffected Republicans. And in each case, their presence on the ballot is making what would otherwise be tougher races for the Democrats much more winnable.

We are still a long way off from November 2010, and these two races are not necessarily the best harbingers of what is to come. That said, they do indicate that there remains a deep-seated dislike of Republicans that endures despite apparent declines in support for the Democrats -- a dislike that could seriously hamper GOP efforts to make major gains in the upcoming midterm elections. And unless the Republicans are able to address these sentiments, it's difficult to see them making anywhere near the type of gains some are projecting a little over a year out from election day.



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This is a very consistent trend in self ID (none / 0)

This is a very consistent trend , as the GOP unravels. People will continue to self identify as independents. I would argue that there is a correlation in this data to self identification as well, if the polling were done.

However, its important to note that we've selected a very sharp axe to grind here with these races. The consistent strongholds that the GOP has made in the south are better indicators, in my view - and the poll that needs to run there is "Do you consider yourself a Republican, Democrat, or Independent". The democrats tarnished brand down there will leave them wanting but if this data is correlated you may find their numbers increased - and I would argue you are likely to see a 6 to 10 percent increase in self identification from the independents.

Georgia, for example, elected (essentially) an independent to the Senate. Isakson is a moderate republican and also someone who has strong potential to back healthcare reform and break from the ranks of this dying party to join the growing majority of senators who support healthcare. Although Isakson has been known to be far right on occasion, in rhetoric his voting record is actually quite moderate.

Its important to look at trends like this from a national perspective rather than a catbird seat constructed from two races in GOP northern territory. That said, I agree with the author that there is a trendline here- if a polling firm looks for it they will likely find it.

And of course, we can also expect that if such a poll was published - the lobbyists would rush to shore up the GOP because they want both parties to be in zombie mode. Thats why they're dumping so much money into the dems right now.

And , given the strong and disintermediating effect of the blogosphere on electoral results - knocking the middlemen lobbyists out of the loop - its far more likely that 'independent' will be how the GOP - which has been suffering under the lobbyists for years - will try to sort and save those it wishes to keep when it reforms again.

Didn't H. Ross Perot validate this hypothesis back
in the 20th century?


by Trey Rentz on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 02:32:35 PM EST

Re: This is a very consistent trend in self ID (2.00 / 1)

National Journal ranked Johnny Isakson as the 7th most conservative Senator.  If that's "essentially an independent," I'm curious who you would regard as a real Republican.

As we learned from the example of John McCain, getting mavericky on one or two high-profile issues should not be mistaken for actual moderation.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 03:52:22 PM EST
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GOP Needs Hard Look at Who It Claims Base To Be (none / 0)

Did the GOP brain trust in the 1970s really believe that a powerful political party could be supported indefinitely on the planks of racism and "values"?  

It must have because since then it has thrown all its weight to holding its party together by reinforcing these ideas and candidates - to the point of excluding traditional "Sibelius" vintage Republicans who have slowly bled from the party over time.

Now the GOP is learning that a strong party cannot stand on the shifting sands of its remaining base; the base demanding more obstructionism, less compromise, and more confrontation.  It is reaping the harvest that this grand 1970s strategy sowed.

It will be interesting to see whether the Doles and Romneys can bring back the old GOP to its former shape - at least to a point where a majority of Americans would actually believe the party to be able to govern effectively.


by TJ1 on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 06:39:59 PM EST

Re: Ill (none / 0)

I'd love to vote for more independents, or third party candidates-- good for the system. This looks like a heck of a contest in NY.


by Jerome Armstrong on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 07:08:01 PM EST

Re: Ill (none / 0)

ONe of the advantage here is that we do have candidates who are both Democrats and say on the Working Families Party ticket, and thus, I am able to vote based on that combination. This is something that I wish other states would emulate. That way you can have a more vibrant system , even if it remains 2 party, and obtain some idea of what political agenda the candidate actually follows in greater detail that the larger party platform.


by bruh3 on Wed Oct 21, 2009 at 01:24:45 AM EST
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Re: Ill Omen for GOP as Base Jumps Ship (2.00 / 1)

I think the general sentiment is right, but this is a poor example since the GOP candidate is quite liberal.


by tpeichel on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 08:07:21 PM EST


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