Obama today destroys McCain: (video update!)

John McCain is rapidly becoming a laughingstock in America.  Well deserved.

Barack Obama rips him a new one today, with style.


"There's only one candidate who's called himself "fundamentally a deregulator" when deregulation is part of the problem. My opponent actually wrote in the current issue of a health care magazine -- the current issue, quote, "Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation." So let me get this straight -- he wants to run health care like they've been running Wall Street. Well, senator, I know some folks on Main Street who aren't going to think that's a good idea. "

"There's only one candidate whose campaign is being run by seven of Washington's most powerful lobbyists. And folks, it isn't me. I don't take a dime from Washington lobbyists and special interests. They do not run my campaign. They will not run my White House. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I'm president of the United States. So when John McCain says that lobbyists 'won't even get past the front gate' at his White House, my question is -- who's going to stop them? Those seven lobbyists? His campaign manager? The economic adviser, who got a $40 million golden parachute when she was fired as a CEO? Or maybe the 26 advisers and fundraisers who lobbied for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? I mean, give me a break. The same day my opponent attacked me for being associated with a Fannie Mae guy I've talked to for maybe five minutes in my entire life -- the same day he did that -- the head of the lobbying shop at Fannie Mae turned around and said wait a minute -- 'when I see photographs of Senator McCain's staff, it looks to me like the team of lobbyists who used to report to me.'

Folks, you can't make this stuff up."

Obama, quoted on Ben Smith's blog

Here's the video of this statement and more!

More, for your reading pleasure:

Yesterday, my opponent, Senator McCain, gave a speech in which his big solution to this worldwide economic crisis was to blame me for it. This is a guy who’s spent a quarter century in Washington. And after spending the entire campaign saying I haven’t been in Washington long enough, he apparently now is willing to assign me responsibility for all of Washington’s failures. I think it’s pretty clear that Senator McCain is a little panicked, and that at this point, he is willing to say anything, do anything, change any position, violate any principle to try and win this election. And that is sad to see. That’s not the politics we need.

So let’s be clear.

There’s only one candidate who – just this week – said a line he’s repeated 16 times on this campaign – quote – “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.”

There’s only one candidate who’s called himself “fundamentally a deregulator” when deregulation is part of the problem. My opponent actually wrote in the current issue of a health care magazine – the current issue – quote – “Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.”

So let me get this straight – he wants to run health care like they’ve been running Wall Street. Well, Senator, I know some folks on Main Street who aren’t going to think that’s a good idea.

There’s only one candidate whose choice for Treasury Secretary is a man who thinks we’re in a “mental recession” and has called the United States of America a – quote – “nation of whiners.”

There’s only one candidate whose campaign is being run by seven of Washington’s most powerful lobbyists.

And folks, it isn’t me.

I don’t take a dime from Washington lobbyists and special interests. They do not run my campaign. They will not run my White House. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.

So when John McCain says that lobbyists “won’t even get past the front gate” at his White House, my question is – who’s going to stop them?

Those seven lobbyists?

His campaign manager?

The economic advisor, who got a $40 million golden parachute when she was fired as a CEO?

Or maybe the 26 advisors and fundraisers who lobbied for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

I mean, give me a break.

The same day my opponent attacked me for being associated with a Fannie Mae guy I’ve talked to for maybe 5 minutes in my entire life – the same day he did that – the head of the lobbying shop at Fannie Mae turned around and said wait a minute – “when I see photographs of Senator McCain’s staff, it looks to me like the team of lobbyists who used to report to me.”

Folks, you can’t make this stuff up.

So when you hear John McCain talk about taking on the ol’ boy network in Washington – know this, on the McCain campaign, that’s called a staff meeting.

At this defining moment, when the stakes could not be higher, we need real change – change that’s more than just a slogan, change that actually makes a difference in people’s lives. And that’s the kind of change I’ll bring to Washington when I’m President of the United States of America.

The whole speech is here. Fun to read:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/20/happening-now-obama-in-florida/#more-19535



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Tips for (2.00 / 14)

the Saturday Night Live skit that is McCain's campaign!!

The fundmanetals of John McCain and his campaign are about as strong as the US economy.  


by TomP on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 12:50:33 PM EST

If Americans elect McCain, it will be a good time (2.00 / 3)

to go OVERSEAS - Maybe that is what they want, for all those with the skills we NEED to LEAVE, to get out of this mess to leave them to their looting of America.. With the poor people who don't have any options, to feast on their (our, also, because this is ALL OF OUR country, and democracy is destroyed AT OUR PERIL) destruction..

I get that feeling, because the longer they deny the truth, the uglier the accounting will be when it comes.


public option=not affordable for middle. It cant cover all affordably, google adverse selection for why
by architek on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 12:57:00 PM EST
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Now is not the time to run (2.00 / 2)

Now is the time to fight, whatever the outcome of the next election.

It was a Democrat who faced down Germany and Japan simultaneously and kicked them to the curb. It was a Democrat who helped build the space program that put Americans on the Moon.

We do not run from challenges; we embrace them.


by Spiffarino on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 04:06:24 PM EST
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Re: Tips for (2.00 / 3)

Looks like things are starting to run more true to form as the thoroughbred and the cantankerous old mule head into the stretch run.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 06:13:32 PM EST
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That is really good Obama is an incredible speaker (none / 0)

So, why doesn't he continue in that vein and level with us on healthcare, explain adverse selection, explain where he is going to have to work to get us something that will help ALL of us, AND ASK FOR OUR SUPPORT..

Be a MAN and BLOW MCCAIN AWAY WITH REAL COMPASSION FOR AMERICANS WHO HAVE CHRONIC ILLNESSES WHO DON'T WANT TO BE BANKRUPTED BY UNCOVERED HEALTHCARE COSTS OR WHO CAN"T AFFORD INSURANCE EVEN IF IT IS "OFFERED" TO THEM.. "AT A FAIR PRICE" (proportionate to their risk, a known risk, since they are already sick.. )

THE UNINSURABLES..


public option=not affordable for middle. It cant cover all affordably, google adverse selection for why
by architek on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 12:53:27 PM EST

It does. (2.00 / 1)

Obama's plan does cover the "uninsurables." They just have to sign up for it and coverage is guaranteed. And the only type of health care plan that guarantees 100% participation is single payer, which is not passable.


by Mystylplx on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 04:56:58 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

I disagree.  A single payer plan is passable, it just takes some political will and backbone to do it.  The majority of Americans have already said they would be willing to pay more in taxes for everyone to have health care covereage and for health care to be no longer tied to employment.  The sentiment is there; we just need some politicians who will force it through.


by slynch on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 06:41:55 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

Conservatives were saying the same thing about privatized social security back in 2004 when Bush got re-upped.  Obama and the Democrats, at this point in time, don't have enough political capital in the bank to push through a single-payer system.


by Homebrewer on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 08:43:16 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

It's not just about political capital, it's also about need.  There was no pressing need to privatize social security; there is a pressing need to do something drastic with our health care system.


by slynch on Sun Sep 21, 2008 at 09:00:15 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

It's also about what is possible. Even democrats aren't going to vote for single-payer in one step. Wiping out the entire health insurance industry in one blow is not something anyone from either party is going to vote for. This is one of those nice dreamy dream kind of things that people like Nader can promise only because he knows he'll never need to come through. Even Nader, if he had a chance in hell of getting elected, wouldn't promise it.


by Mystylplx on Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 04:37:11 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

see below in my other response to you.  I think you're being overly pessimistic about what can be accomplished in a year in which the unemployment rate is high, the market is failing, and more and more people are seeing that a single payer system is really the only solution.  Millions of workers are not going to give a shit about the unemployment that would occur in the insurance industry.

You're simply making the typical democratic (and republican) arguments against transitioning rapily to a single payer system, but these arguments have not been borne out in other countries with single payer systems, and there's actually a policy literature on this issue that doesn't support your position.  In brief, it is very possible for an immediate transition to single payer.  It just takes political will and the right conditions.  We have the right conditions; we just lack the will.


by slynch on Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 08:08:54 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

Just look at the history of the way Canada and GB moved to single payer. It was a slow process for each. In Canada's case hospitals were not for profit right from the beginning, but they didn't move fully to a single payer system till the 1940's. Britain had their 'poor-law' hospitals since the late 19th century, but didn't allow everyone to use thenm untill the mid 20th century. I don't see how we could rapidly move to single payer without major disruption, and at a time when the economy is fragile it's not a good idea.

If there is literature that suggests that an immediate transistion is possible, could you point it out to me?


by Mystylplx on Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 09:35:24 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

Canada moved to a universal and single payer system in 1972, I believe--if I recall correctly from a health policy course I had in grad school some years ago.  Not the 1940s.  That was one province; you can read about this on Wikipedia.

Look, both countries (US and Canada) have a long history moving toward universal single payer care.  We already have a system that covers persons over 62 and poor persons--and both were adopted in a single, fell swoop.  We're almost there.  It is not a larger leap to move to full population coverage than what Canada experienced.  I know less about the UK.  But, try reading two books: one is by Gerard Boychuk and the other is by Terry Boychuk (to my knowledge, they are not related; I've known Terry for years, and he's never mentioned Gerard).

You might also consider looking at work done by Himmelstein and Woolhandler.  They've written extensively on the topic, and you could also consider looking at Paul Starr's "Social Transformation of American Medicine" for general background on the history of our system.


by slynch on Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 01:14:22 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

No chance. No one is going to vote to put 100's of thousands of people out of work and strike a huge blow to the stock market. To go directly from where we are to single payer would mean wiping out the entire health insurance industry in one blow. Aint gonna happen.


by Mystylplx on Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 04:30:57 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

I disagree.  It would actually have a net positive effect on the stock market, because eliminating health insurance from companies' bottom lines would increase their profitability immeidately.  And, it would not eliminate the insurance industry, because individuals could still opt to have their own private coverage to supplement their government coverage if they wanted to get services not covered under a single payer plan.  This is what the UK does, as well as Canada.

And, by the way, I believe the switch in most countries to a single payer system happened rapidly, not in stages.  I think you're just being pessimistic.


by slynch on Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 08:04:37 PM EST
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Re: It does. (none / 0)

Eliminating health insurance while increasing taxes doesn't have an immediate positive effect on companies bottom lines. Even if the tax increase is less than the insurance premiums (which it wouldn't be right away) tyhere are still accounting costs. And it might not completely eliminate the health insurance industry, but it would eliminate the vast majority of it.

And I'm pretty sure you are wrong about other countries switching rapidly to single-payer. Certainly that's not true for the UK or Canada.


by Mystylplx on Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 09:39:33 PM EST
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Why don't we wait until after the election, (2.00 / 1)

and then push for REAL HEALTHCARE REFORM:

UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.

Not this lukewarm bullshit that the three Dem candidates were pushing this year.  The supremacy of the free market is not looking quite so supreme right now.  It's the time to push for it.  


by Dumbo on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 10:19:51 PM EST
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Excuse me... (2.00 / 1)

I meant to say SINGLE-PAYER.


by Dumbo on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 10:20:54 PM EST
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Re: Excuse me... (none / 0)

No chance. No one is going to vote to put 100's of thousands of people out of work and strike a huge blow to the stock market. To go directly from where we are to single payer would mean wiping out the entire health insurance industry in one blow. Aint gonna happen.

Perhaps we can get there in several steps, but not in just one step.


by Mystylplx on Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 04:32:17 PM EST
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Re: Obama today destroys McCain (2.00 / 2)

Oh, man, I was hoping he would use that.


Saxby Chambliss
by bosdcla14 on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 02:08:45 PM EST

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That's great that one of Krugman's readers pointed the banking/healthcare thing out to Krugman, and that Krugman put it on his blog where Team Obama saw it.

We're firing on all cylinders now.


by Bush Bites on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 02:33:29 PM EST

Brilliant (2.00 / 5)

I'm seeing the mean side of the campaign - and they need to be given the way republicans have screwed the country for eight years.

Righteous anger. Devastating blows.


by duende on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 02:54:02 PM EST

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Nice catch TomP.

Highly rec'd.


Yawn.
by spacemanspiff on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 04:40:14 PM EST

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He's almost TOO funny.


When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?
by Jess81 on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 06:06:34 PM EST

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Paul Krugman, all is forgiven...  Yes you can!


by Shaun Appleby on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 06:46:41 PM EST

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I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 06:47:12 PM EST

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Ooops, sorry for the double post.

Thanks for posting this Tom.  Rec'd.


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 06:48:09 PM EST
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Obama on offense. (2.00 / 2)

Obama's got the ball now and the Dems are chewing up the field.  woohoo!


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 08:45:46 PM EST

Re: Obama today destroys McCain: (video update!) (none / 0)

Can someone please try to convince me to vote Democratic?  I don't like the GOP; I really just hate the Dem leadership and idiots who gave us a much harder election than we should have had.  


Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.
by BPK80 on Sun Sep 21, 2008 at 08:41:00 AM EST

Re: Obama today destroys McCain: (video update!) (none / 0)

Open your eyes. Do your own thinking. I'm an independent. And the choice couldn't be clearer.


by kitebro on Sun Sep 21, 2008 at 12:30:09 PM EST
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Re: Obama today destroys McCain: (video update!) (none / 0)

Why is that anyone's repsponsability, but your own?

Look, we get you've spend MONTHS in bitterness over Senator Clinton's lose.

You have every right to decide Obama cheated, the media robbed, the DNC and Dean took it from her.

So what?

Now, here's the situation.  You can get involved in politics at the local level and do everything you can to change the Democratic party more to your beliefs.

I encourage you to do that.

Me, I LIKE the causus system her in WA, it has worked great for a long time.

IF you think it's corrupt or awful, get involved and change it.

But, the clear reality is, no matter how much you wish it wasnt so, ONE of two people will be President?

One of two parties will sign executive orders, One of two parties will send down budgets, one of two parties will recommend USSC judges and ONE party will apoint between 30 and 60 circuit court judges, almost completely moving the judicary permenantly to the right for the next 20 years OR on party can start to move it back to the middle?

Your choice, what ever convincing or apoligizing you want us to do, your choice in the end.


Support the separation of Church and State: Vote YES on WA R-71!
by WashStateBlue on Sun Sep 21, 2008 at 03:59:26 PM EST
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Thank you.  


Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.
by BPK80 on Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 08:59:57 AM EST
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Re: Obama today destroys McCain: (video update!) (none / 0)

This isn't about Hillary Clinton now though.  It hasn't been for a while.  It's about distrust of the party and the candidate that has hardened over the past 4 months.  Barack Obama deserves to lose, and egg needs smearing on the faces of his complicit cronies in the party & the media.  But the price to pay shouldn't be financed by innocent people who would suffer more under a GOP administration.  I may yet vote Obama, but I can't like him.  I hate frauds.  I can't volunteer for him because I would do more harm than good.  I'm very candid and people would know I was lying to them and to myself if I tried to talk up the candidate, like a really bad used car salesman.  

I'm also really annoyed because while the gains for symbolic racial equality would be nice w. Obama elected, the damage an Obama loss would do seems to have been nonchalantly blocked from serious consideration.  I think the potential bad from a loss outweighs the potential good from a win.  

While I admire Hillary Cliton, it should be obvious to anyone reading the few things I post here that the choice has nothing to do with her anymore.  


Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.
by BPK80 on Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 09:06:02 AM EST
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Re: Obama today destroys McCain: (video update!) (none / 0)

It takes one particular kind of idiot to support the Republicans over the Democrats. You merely need to be a creationist that opposes habeas corpus, believes in abstinence-only sex ed, hates gay people, supports torture as a tool for interrogation, believes that Saddam Hussein planned 9/11, and thinks that contraception is a tool of the devil.

It takes an even worse kind of idiot to STILL NOT KNOW whether to support the Republicans or the Democrats. What, you still haven't made up your mind which side you're on on all of the above issues??

Figure out which side you're on, and vote for it. That's it. What's the point of me telling you to vote for Obama because of e.g. abortion rights, when you may oppose abortion rights instead? Nobody can choose your side but you.


by Aris Katsaris2 on Sun Sep 21, 2008 at 10:05:52 PM EST
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Re: Obama today destroys McCain: (video update!) (none / 0)

I know what side of the issues I'm on.  The debate for me is personnel v. policy and short term v. long term.  


Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.
by BPK80 on Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 08:59:20 AM EST
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The "long term" is made up of many short terms.

And the personnel are the people who choose the policies.

If McCain was truly competent, he wouldn't have the policies he had, and he wouldn't be a Republican in the first place. Recently he's shown he didn't even know who Zapatero was.


by Aris Katsaris2 on Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 09:41:24 AM EST
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