by Al Rodgers, Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:48:21 PM EST
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Highly Recc'd Al!
out to send this out as a joke
The first polling confirms Palin's lack of experience is a real weakness.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/w omen-more-skeptical-of-palin-than-men.ht ml
By a 29/44 margin, voters do not believe that she is ready to be President...
Most interestingly...
by a 23-point margin, women do not think Palin is ready to be President, whereas Palin lost this question among men by a considerably smaller 6-point magrin.
The dudes think she's cute.
I don't think that women fall for this trick.
Exactly.
Men are morons, put a picture of her next to Olympia Snowe, DON'T tell men a thing about either, I bet Sarah comes out more qualified by MORE then that percentage.
Men vote with this little heads many times....
Yes, we do.
And we need to stop with this MILF crap.
Just think of her like Dan Quayle. That helps.
AS a MAN I AM HIGHLY OFFENDED
BUT I HIGHLY AGREE WERE IDIOTS
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/ 185656/197/92/580633
Please send this video to everyone you know, especially if you know any women considering McCain. This will totally creep them out!
I wonder if CNN gets the body language experts out like they did after Hillary's speech at the convention?
"well, it looks like he's checking out her ass but I'm sure he's just reading the speech on the podium, and that twirling of the wedding ring on the finger is certainly nothing to worry about!"
That confirms the informal survey I've been doing. Men are all like "oh no, what are we going to do" and women just can't stop the guffaws.
Rec'd for the facts. No misogyny in that!
Wow. Well, it's executive experience anyway, right?
More than McCain's!!!
Interesting point.
What was McCain thinking?
He scares me more now, than he did two days ago. You don't think that he's a bit impulsive, do you?
Damn - we need more of this!
Check this out.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q= Wasilla,+alaska&um=1&ie=UTF-8&am p;sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum= 1&ct=title
Google's satellite photo of Wasilla has been blurred
That's weird. Aren't there competing services like this?
MSN actually came up with the first satellite service in the late 90s that is still in service, Terra Server.com
But because the town is so small, they didn't bother to do a street map quality overhead shot.
http://www.terraserver.com/view.asp?cx=3 70502.347983216&cy=6829974.29041752& amp;proj=32606&mpp=7.5&pic=-1&am p;prov=-1&stac=-1&styp=AD
because there has never been a reason to do a high-res satellite pic.
I had no idea Walisa (pop. 8,471) had access to a satellite dish.
it was only 6000 when she was on a PART time council/mayor system
I hear it became 8000 when she declared the use of a condom to be a capital crime.
Maybe Dems can start a secret e-mail campaign claiming she is actually a Canadian.
(just thinking out loud here...;)
Nah,
Why smear the Canadians that way? They're nice people.
;-)
don't eat moose! Squirrel, maybe. But not moose!
Hey Stipes you know how to get some extra MOJO don't you Ha Ha Thanks you are a stand up guy.
We'll leave that kind of diss-miss-ive-ness to the party of folly and implosion.
(to the party that had the brainstorm to nominate her.)
LOL! For a second, I thought that my browser locked up, or my page refused to load...
She's completely and utterly ridiculous. They call Obama "Bambi" to suggest he's not prepared, but even Bambi would kick this ridiculous light weight's ass. It's ridiculous to think that that woman should be anywhere NEAR the highest office in the known universe. Profoundly and dangerously ridiculous.
WTF???
RIDICULOUS!!!
I don't know what you guys are talking about. Everyone said Obama does not have the experience to be President, yet here he is. Obama CANNOT win an experience battle. The mere fact that we are comparing a PRESIDENTIAL candidate experiences to VICE PRESIDENTIAL candidate is laughable. We are basically saying Obama does not have the experience to be President. If we fight the fight, we lose. Why? John McCain is running for President, not Sarah Palin. There is a reason Obama backed away from this attack.
44% still think Obama is too inexperienced to be President. This is not a fight we want to have.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/scoreboa rds/by_the_numbers2/by_the_numbers
To be honest, I'm actually impressed with Palin record. She took on corruption and won. I just find it appalling that we hold Palin to a different standard that Obama. We have to be careful how we thread. Disgruntled Clinton supporters were angry because Clinton was held to a different standard, now we are doing it again. I'm a 20-year-old male and I could see that.
mccain has horrible judgement is impulsive to the point of reckless...
his first decision it to pick someone who's unvetted with zero experience
Well play the judgment card. We could win that fight. Obama WILL lose an argument on experience.
do experience.
JUDGEMENT and McCain's TEMPERMENT..
he can nail both traits in one with this
Well why the hell are we attacking Palin on her experience. This is what this diary is about. There is a reason the Obama campaign backed off the experience card in their new ad.
Sexist.
Yeah, she isn't actually that great of a reformer, campaigning with Ted, and she was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she discovered AK would have to pony up half the cost, and if she were against it AK could keep the money anyway, but she pushed through an ethics law in AK, and she gained her first visibility by ratting out one of her fellow Commissioners on a state board.
She isn't qualified to be President, but the hair crack is disgraceful.
Elitist.
There, everyone can throw labels intended to be insulting.
It's a joke. Lighten up Grace.
Yes, obviously it is a joke. However, it is a sexist joke intended to play off of sexist assumptions.
I explained why your comment was sexist. You don't even bother to try to explain why my comment was elitist.
Even from an unfeminist perspective, jokes like that don't help. Palin may well prove herself to be reasonably competent on the national stage, and sexist jokes that imply that she doesn't know about anything but hair care will just make us look like idiots when she demonstrates that she really isn't all that incompetent.
Try setting the bar a little higher.
Wow. Compelling argument. You've completely changed my mind...NOT!
Psych!
Your childish comments are just not funny. I'm a Democrat and I'm being serious about this. Obama will not win an experience fight.
Blah!
Now that is childish.
Make America Strange!
Obama does not need to WIN an experience argument. He needs to NEUTRALIZE the experience argument.
The point isn't to blast her as inexperienced. It's to hold her inexperience in hand in case McCain continues to claim Obama is unready.
Oh, and for a 72-year old cancer survivor, McCain may very well not serve out his term. VPs matter.
RJ is right. The problem is this doesn't neutralize the experience argument: it perpetuates the debate.
As I said in another post, any debate about the lack of experience of McCain's #2 will inevitably bring the focus back to the lack of experience of our #1. That is not the strategy to win.
I suggest we attack McCain-Palin on values and ideology, not inexperience. It's a bad strategy, and we are falling for the Republican trap.
We shouldn't make it the focus, but it's a simple question: is she ready to be president? If the answer is yes, then what the hell was McCain going on about these past six months? If the answer is no, then they're admitting their own pick is not qualified.
It's just a simple question you can raise from time to time. You just have to do it the right way.
I'd say the charge should be she's UNQUALIFIED, not that she's inexperienced. The particular type of experience she has does not prepare her well. - Mayor of a small village of 6,715 - Governor of Alaska - issues are totally unlike issues in the rest of the country - Governor of Alaska is a "part time job" and she's still in second year - Anchorage newspapers do not think she's qualified - Under investigation for abuse of power
Plus, she has shown no interest or expertise in national or international affairs. Her focus has been solely on Alaska. What does she know of the nation and the world? What leading experts in the economy or national security has she discussed these issues with? What policy papers has she written or reviewed? How well does she understand the U.S. Constitution?
Clearly, she is not currently qualified.
So legislature experience:
Obama : 8 year in Illinos senate + 4 years US senate
Palin: 1.5 years governor of Alaska.
BTW speaking of judgement:
http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story /295464.html and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKkydrUnB ZE
you're saying it doesn't matter who McSame selected.
He could have selected someone without any kind of experience.
I don't know where you are getting this from. That is not what I said.
Hey RJ,
Ya' know, you remind me of my good friend, YellowDem. You wouldn't happen to know him, would ya'?
People who know me here, know I'm no progressive. I'm a moderate Democrat and I'm not afraid to speak my mind, attack the Democrats or support the Republicans. I hold my leads accountable.
Well bully for you, Mr. Poopyhead!
No cussing Stipes! Ha Ha
#1 McCain undercut his own message. Experience was McCain's message, not Obama's.
#2 Obama for all this talk of his lack of experience has been campaigning on the national stage, and as a result has been tested and vetted while real world situations have unfolded, for a year and a half and he hasnt made a fool of himself yet. Palin has been on the stage for a day, so we'll see.
#1. Agreed.
#2. He has been tested. He has been vetted. His response to real world events is debatable.
Debatable? One of his accomplishments had to do with "loose nukes" in the Soviet Union. And he's STILL right on Iraq.
She herself said she hasn't even paid attention to news about the Iraq war, just as an average citizen!
There's NO comparison.
And before you think she's too squeaky-clean, she has her own corruption/abuse-of-power investigation going on.
I'm wondering if she'll even last the remaining weeks.
RJEvans, I echoed your argument here and it is on the money.
It is the wrong strategy to bring up Palin's lack of resume, or inexperience. Politically, it just keeps the "experience" debate alive (Palin can still successfully argue she has more executive experience than Obama/Biden) and returns the focus to Obama's own lack of experience.
So you think running a state for 19 months (population 670,000) with no income taxes (because of income from oil revenues) where the legislature meets twice a year is comparable to 7 years as state senator of a state with 12 million residents and 4 years as a US senator?
Get real. Barack Obama has served more than twice the amount of time she has, and has a constituency 25 times as large as hers. And don't forget, 18 million people have already chosen him to be the next President.
The population of Alaska is 600,000. She supported the bridge to nowhere, by the way.
You've been drinking the MSM's koolaide. Took on corruption in Alaska and won? I think you've got her confused with congress - she campaigned with Ted Stevens.
Let's just compare experience between the Republican VP candidate and the Democratic Presidential candidate, shall we?
Barack Obama went to Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was also president of the Harvard Law Review.
He worked as a civil rights attorney and a community organizer before going into politics, serving as State Senator from 1997 to 2004, when he made a sucessful run for US Senate.
Sarah Palin has a bachelor's degree in journalism, was a sportscaster for awhile before being elected mayor of Wasilla, a town of anywhere from 5500 to 8700, depending on what news source you look at. She was elected as governor 19 months ago in a red, red state as the only other republican running against the corrupt machine of Frank Murkowski in an "anybody but Murkowski" year.
Are you sure that the experience argument won't hold up?
Why don't we allow Joe Biden and Mrs. Palin to have a quick debate about national issues like the Iraq war (she doesn't really pay attention to what's going on in Iraq, by the way) or the economy?
By the way, as someone mentioned in another comment, she has more executive experience than McCain does- does that qualify her to run as president?
With the all the bashing of Obama over Foreign Policy, can anyone seriously look anyone in the eye and say (that if GOD forbid something happened to McCain if he were to become President, and I don't mean death per se, let's say he somehow was shot like Reagan) you believe that Sarah Palin is qualified to take over.
To put it in another way, if something were to happen to McCain or Obama if either became President, Who would you want to answer that "3a.m. call"? Joe Biden or Sarah Palin? Honestly, no spin, no politics, no talking points.
Several terms in the Illinois state legislature and one term in Congress. Main claim to fame prior to running for president: opposition to a debatable war.
Yes, that Abraham Lincoln was sure inexperienced.
The value of experience is shown in ones judgment. Obama with less experience than McCain has shown that what experience he does have is more valuable because it's informed better judgments.
The VP choices illustrate this. Obama knowing that some people are uncomfortable with his limited experience chose a policy heavyweight from whom he can get valuable advise and input and who is ready to step into the role of the presidency at a moments notice.
McCain who has tons of experience keeps showing that he takes the wrong lessons from said experience.
He suffers through 5 years of captivity as a POW and instead of coming home and working to make other peoples lives better he comes back and dumps his crippled wife for a newer richer model. Instead of standing for the troops he time and time again stands against them with the rich pricks who don't want to pay their fair share in taxes.
After supposedly being tortured for 5 years he votes to authorize torturing of more people.
Finally when it comes time to pick a potential president he choses someone who is not even close to being ready for the job by their own admission.
So while McCain has decades of experience it's decades of experience making the wrong decisions.
Obama may have far less experience but it's experience making good choices.
And that's an argument McCain can't win.
Don't buy the line that she took on corruption. She went after her political enemies, whether in charging them with corruption or with her own abuse of power.
I admire you for trying to defend Palin but this pick shows such poor judgement. McCain has "Lost it" Many of the Republican trolls are not even on mydd because Palin is so out of her league. Thank you John McCain what will you hand us next?
It shows poor judgment in your view, but guess it was the right pick, because today, the Republican Party has consolidated around McCain. He is getting more crowds. He is getting more money. He is getting more media coverage. There is excitement in the GOP. Some will say that was good judgment. Whether or not it pays off is another story.
You really shouldn't have padded her resume, Al.
Those things added to a resume to make one appear better qualified than they are usually wind up being 'found out' in the long run, so next time, just stick with her accurate attributes. Your padded version is way too long and unbelievable.
I think the deliberate whitening of the page is a form of reverse racism.
Shame on you Al Rodgers!
Appointing party loyalists who have no experience to top government positions.
fucking hilarious.
the most fun is playing all three at the same time. Try it, you'll like it.
dammit I was gonna do this.
Recced. ;)
You've GOT to be kidding me, RJ. Seriously.
His resume is as thin as hers? REALLY? How many bills has SHE authored? Has she passed anything on loose nukes? Or a database for tracking pork spending? Or a home state law for videotaping interrogations in the wake of torture allegations?
She was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it. There's judgement for you.
She said she was so busy as governor, she wasn't paying any attention to news about the Iraq war.
She asked what a VP does! I can honestly say that I've never heard Obama say he'd run for Senate after he finds out what a Senator does.
I can't believe you can seriously make the claim - even as "GOP devil's advocate" - that there's any comparison.
And here's one more: if something happened to the elected President, who would YOU want picking up the phone at 3 AM - Joe Biden or Sarah Palin?
OK-you suggested it, so don't we play the game of GOP Devil's Advocate? If we are going to engage in the experience debate, we better prepare for what is going to be thrown back at us. Here we go:
How many executive orders has Obama signed? Has Obama ever managed national guard troops? Do Barack Obama OR Joe Biden have anywhere near the executive experience Sarah Palin does? Actually, they have none. Did Obama cut spending like Sarah Palin did in the State of Alaska? No...he spent $300+ million of taxpayer money on earmarks for his home state. You say she was unsure about whether she could become VP...well, check out the below video! Barack Obama said he wasn't even ready to become President!
How many executive orders has Obama signed? Has Obama ever managed national guard troops? Do Barack Obama OR Joe Biden have anywhere near the executive experience Sarah Palin does? Actually, they have none.
Did Obama cut spending like Sarah Palin did in the State of Alaska? No...he spent $300+ million of taxpayer money on earmarks for his home state.
You say she was unsure about whether she could become VP...well, check out the below video! Barack Obama said he wasn't even ready to become President!
Sorry. But this is a game we do not want to play. Let's attack Palin's ideology, not her inexperience, for the love of God.
Okay, don't play it then. The MSM is already doing it.
They have just STARTED to crucify McCain's choice. We just get to sit back, and enjoy the show.
I'm excited!
I understand you're point, but you're throwing yourself softballs.
How about this one: do you believe that she's ready to be Commander-in-Chief? Yes or no.
That's the only question we have to ask the McCain campaign.
Yes. I believe she is ready to be commander-in-chief. I just don't want her to be commander-in-chief. Obama is ready to be commander-in-chief, and I do want him to win.
I'm sorry, but it's disingenous to argue that Obama IS ready to be commander-in-chief and then turn around and say that Palin--a newcomer like Obama, but someone who unlike him, has executive experience--is NOT ready to be commander-in-chief.
That is exactly the kind of question we ought to stay away from.
I hate to say it, but there is 'executive experience' and then there is 'executive experience'.
The owner and proprietor of the local lawn service has 'executive experience'.
So does the manager of a used car dealership.
So does Joe Lieberman.
Is that the kind of 'executive experience' you speak of?
She's a neophyte. He's not. There's a world of difference.
She's not up to the job, not because of any reason other than her world views, her core principles and her record.
Saying you believe she is ready to be CIC is really saying that she would be as ready as Susan Collins or Kay Baily Hutchenson or Larry Hagman. They are not, and she's definitely not.
Word!
Completely agree. She not only pro-life she doesn't believe in abortion in case of rape or incest. She doesn't believe in married couples using birth control. She is trying to throw polar bears under the bus so Alaskans can drill. She's anti-gay and a Neo-con. She's tied to big oil. I'm sure there's more but no one knows too much about her views on other issues. I think it's enough to allow people to make a decision about her. I say leaver her experience out of it. As long as we're talking about her experience or lack of we aren't telling people about her views on the issues, which I think are pretty damning to most people.
for married households
http://www.cityofwasilla.com/ftp/tour/ci tyhall/Tourviewer_cityhall.html
It took me a while to check out this "dairy". When I finally did, I was thinking... hm... what is wrong with my computer or the connection?
I was stumped.
hmmm...
Good one! :)
Progressive Blue
it was exactly this. I paused or a second waiting for the page to load then glanced at the scroll bar, and it was!!
Whitespace. Perfect statement.
I can't wait for the Saturday Night Live skits that have their Palin shown as a looker, with perfect hair and makeup, a beauty queen smile , tiara in place wearing camo fatigues with a beauty queen sash that reads 'Ms Gov of Alaska, 2008', holding an ak47 with an infant and a toddler strapped to her back, yelling for more ammo, on a hunting trip with Dick Cheney
Damn, I should be writing that script for money.
And; I have relatives that have worked with Ms. Palin...their reaction has been one of incredulous horror, to laughable outrage, at Mr. McLost's egregious "choice".
Don't hold back the info, your relatives are rare and precious commodities. Any interesting specifics of personality, approach, ...?
-thanks!!
-chris
I'll certainly ask their permission. I'd hate to be blamed for another Alaskan witch hunt and cost anyone their job(s)..., though my relatives aren't related, by marriage, or otherwise, to the pander bear. We'll see what they have to say, and go from there.
Your call how to handle it, but for my part I might suggest noting the moral responsibility of sharing truth while there is still time.
-best
We shouldn't be attacking Palin on her lack of experience. That only makes us hypocrites, and Palin will gladly turn this around into her own martyrdom.
We should be attacking McCain for his lack of judgment, and for his hypocrisy for questioning Obama's experience.
We should be noting that even Republicans must be worried about his judgment.
Okay,
Here's a question? Since McCain seems to have FP cred, and no economic acument, shouldn't his VP at least be able to help him shore up that weakness.
How does Palin help McCain with the economy?
What foreign policy cred does McCain have?
If you don't count a bad temper, bluster and all American ignorance of of furriners.
His cred is somewhere on the Pakistan/ Iran border or in Czechoslovakia.
Dude, he was a POW.
McCain has basically blown up his chance to have someone on the ticket who can help him with his economic message. In exchange for riling up the conservative base.
Denying she has a resume and stances allows the Republican's to claim her positions and history is better than it is.
They are trying to define her as a fighter of corruption when she has been campaigning for Ted Stevens.
She seems to be anti-science/education.
And anti-choice.
My grandmother who is a lifelong Republican is voting for Obama now because she hates Palin due to her stance on Polar Bears, and shooting wolves from planes.
Her stance on everything is so far scary Right 75% of the country isn't going to agree with it, why not give her the credit where she is due?
With McCain's recipe for global cold war, and economic disaster, and extreem right social pandering, we should be asking the question "Is this still your Republican party?" I am expecting to see more moderate Republicans jump ship in the next couple weeks.
Look, based on what she's said, she's a total ignoramus. No one can put Obama into the same league. As the governor of Arkansas Clinton had no reasons to have qualifications for foreign affairs -- except that he did. He was deeply involved with the international community, not lease Pamela Harriman, who sponsored a salon on that.
It's a mistake to underestimate Obama's qualifications on this. His European trip was more than a rock star trip. His speech in German and his brief stop in France acted to reassure two allies and at the same time to resolve a budding disagreement over the Mediterranean Union. He gave Sarkozy some underpinnings for its presidency of the EC, which it heads through January 1, but the priorities are set by France. It's a unique opportunity.
He also, in his speeches and privately, reinforced existing policy about a stronger Nato, but also asking them to live up to their promises.
You underestimate the advantage of his history of living in other countries. Where's her interest in international affairs?
Let's ask her a few simple questions?
How does she feel about Poland's membership in the Warsaw Alliance?
What was the Sudenten and what was the majority language
Turkmenistan is in the (what) basin?
What language do they speak in Iran?
What what pipeline is involved in the Georgia controversy. Where does it start and end?
Could you discuss the Kurdish issues in the middle east?
Which countries have borders with Turkey and briefly explain the foreign policies issues it has had with those neighbors.
Who in 1914 governed the present countries of Israel, Jordan, Iraq and Iran.
Who is the head of state in Britain.
Angela Merkel is from ?
Could you describe who Kemal Attaturk was, what he is most noted for? Would you also describe current affairs that are affected by anything he did.
Where is Bangladesk and what language do they speak?
What is the capital of Nepal?
Do you have any idea what is the largest state in India.
Could you give us the current name of Ceylon and discuss the name and nature of its insurgency?
Could you talk about the ethnic issues of the Hutu and Tutu?
What is the colonial history of the congos.
What is the large island east of Africa.
What was the 50 Destroyers deal? What did it mean to the US and could you talk about any continuing provision in effect today.
What was the German Empire's entrepot in China. Name a connection now known in almost every city in the US.
Could you talk a little about the head of government in Venezuela -- and the nature of the oil. Compare with Light Crude.
Name the top 5 exporters of oil to the United States.
Name the primary exporter to the United States of Natural Gas.
What country outside of the Americans has the largest known Natural Gas supplies and what, if anything, is being done with it.
What does the Kenai plant do and where do its exports go.Why.
If drilling oil lowers prices, why are Alaskan prices so high that you felt you needed to give Alaskans. Doesn't having a huge oil surplus have an effect of keeping prices down. If it doesn't Work in Alaska, why would it work anywhere else.
Should the states affected be able to have a major voice in offshore drilling.
Who's gotten rich from the Alaskan oil fields.
We've seen this woman's resume. She ain't got executive experience. An excess of that is not necessarily a good thing. Eisenhower was better than the average president (and general) because he had been required to achieve concensus in organizations that worked from the top down. Running the U.S. is not a job for CEO. Government, at its best, is not a top down override on everything, but it requires being involved on many levels.
If you have not had contact with the foreign policy issues, you will spend the next three years trying to figure out where the countries are. It is not a perky face and cheap populism that will ger this country though. And you can't ask for a country briefing that could take hours when the Russians are invading a country you've never heard about.
That explains why she wants the polar bears dead, they're Soviet spies!
Palin the Patriot, Protector of the North!
McCain didn't pick her for her governing experience, but for her 'judgement' and 'charm.' She'll attract born-gain pug women. They would have been lackluster for John without an evangelical with squeaky clean anti-abortion creds, the same pug women who voted for Bush. Enough said?
Hey, Anna, for once I agree w you.
I'd suspected that you weren't as bad as some w whom you've hung.
Kudos for seeing & speaking truth.
I hang with an independent crowd, none of whom blog hate. When I read hate, i respond. I don't like hate. Pisses me off.
er.. yummm.. ahhh, howdoIsaythis....
Bumpkindlings. :~)
I am glad to see that things are lightening up among the non-hate-blogging crowd you hang with (that's actually the first funny diary I've seen campskunk write, and the Blogmother actually told the GOPers to leave!), but in all honestly there has been just a teensy bit of good-ole-hatin' among your independent crowd in the past, oh, about two months or so.
Glad to see you arguing points again, though. Welcome to the debate.
To quote a minor character from Reality Bites:
"Define "irony"." (elevator closes)
you some kind of scholar of me, or do you run on assumptions?
Awesome.
He's worse than Dole. She's worse than Quayle.
a hot potatoe
Interestingly, the McCain campaign doesn't have Palin's resume either.
When Obama announced Biden, his site was ready with a full bio including a long list of Biden's accomplishments.
http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_jo e.php
Palin's bio page on McCain's website is....the text of her speech from yesterday. That's it.
http://www.johnmccain.com/about/governor palin.htm
They really are just making this up as they go along, eh?
Also worth noting is that she is a native of Idaho, the heart of "black helicopter country".
"Sarah Palin Facts" http://www.palinfacts.com/
* Sarah Palin used to wrestle kodiak bears in Alaskan bare knuckles fight clubs. * Sarah Palin once bagged a caribou by staring it down until it died. * Sarah Palin turned down a job as skipper of a Deadliest Catch boat because it wasn't challenging enough * Sarah Palin fishes salmon by convincing them it's in their interest to jump into the boat. * Sarah Palin once guided Santa's sleigh through an Alaskan blizzard with the light from her smile.
* Chuck Norris wishes he was Sarah Palin trapped in a man's body. * Sarah Palin paid her way through school by hunting for yeti pelts with a slingshot. * Sarah Palin knows the location of DB Cooper's body because she threw him from the plane. * The Northern Lights are really just the reflection from Sarah Palin's eys. * The raw energy of Sarah Palin melts the Alaskan ice roads every spring. * We don't know who would win in a Chuck Norris - Sarah Palin cage match because they've never invented a cage that can hold Sarah Palin. * Alaska is the 49th state solely because they knew even before she was born that Sarah Palin would never finish last. * Global Warming doesn't kill polar bears. Sarah Palin does - usually with her bare hands. * Three of Sarah Palin's five kids came out sideways - she never flinched. * Sarah Palin's hotness is the largest single contributor to melting polar ice caps. * It's not raining in DC. Those are God's tears of joy that McCain picked Sarah Palin. * Sarah Palin isn't allowed to wield the gavel at the convention because they're afraid she'll use it to kill liberals. * Sarah Palin once one a competitive eating contest by devouring three live caribou. * Sarah Palin once carved a perfect likeness of the Mona Lisa in a block of ice using only her teeth. * Sarah Palin will pry your Klondike bar from your cold dead fingers. * Sarah Palin pick retroactively makes the theme of #DNC08 "Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead" * Sarah Palin doesn't need a gun to hunt. She has been known to throw a bullet through an adult bull elk.
I really want to know what our military men and women feel about McCain picking this woman who is literally "a heartbeat away" from being Commander in Chief of the US armed forces.
How do you think career military men and women like Colin Powell, Chuck Hagel, Petreus, Clark, etc feel about McCain's pick? How do think their female couterpoints in the military feel?
My guess: PISSED!
I'll bet Obama wouldn't know what to do if a caribou got in his trash cans.
against America's greatest danger...
Bears!
From Will and Grace.
from those who know her:
http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/se arch?q=palin
Interesting stuff, couple snippets:
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Her campaign consisted of challenging John's wife, the late Karen Marie, of having a different last name from Mr. Stein, and of dissing "government schools," a term Palin had picked up from the now imprisoned ex-Representative, Vic Kohring. Her campaign accused Stein, a Republican, of not being Republican enough. The campaign, very fungelical, stressed that Karen Marie was a prominent Democrat, and pro-choice (they called her a "baby killer"). Palin promised, in her mayoral campaign, to eliminate the Wasilla sales tax and city police department Stein had struggled to get. She didn't.
Her campaign accused Stein, a Republican, of not being Republican enough. The campaign, very fungelical, stressed that Karen Marie was a prominent Democrat, and pro-choice (they called her a "baby killer").
Palin promised, in her mayoral campaign, to eliminate the Wasilla sales tax and city police department Stein had struggled to get.
She didn't.
"Shannyn Moore's Take on Gov. Palin's Judgement "
In the last few weeks of her pregnancy she was flying all over the country, Washington D.C. and then to a conference of Republican Governors in Dallas. Her water broke at the conference and she decided to fly back to Alaska to have her 5th child that she knew had downs-syndrome. She passes up some of the finest children's hospitals in Dallas, Seattle and Anchorage, to fly hours and then drive to 50 miles to her home town to have her child. I admire her ability to hold a child in during all those hours and miles above the Earth, and her staunch loyalty to Alaska to deliver her baby on Native Soil. But had I been on board one of those planes on the way to take a loved one off life support, or be at a wedding, or job interview, or any other event that we get on planes for, and had to be diverted by a woman who knowingly got on board after her water broke, I may not admire her uterine control so much. Her lack of judgment for fellow passengers seems obvious, but for someone who is so pro-life it seems reckless.
This one has me puzzled - was that the rash and foolish action of a seriously concerned mother, or the pure political madness of someone who couldn't bring themselves to stay home at nine-months into her pregnancy for the safety of her baby? Should she have been on the road in the first place, and having broken her water in Dallas was she only going home to have an Alaskan Baby? (fifth child as well, we had our third living an hour from the hospital and when Donna's water broke I calmly broke my toe and drove sedately to the hospital at 500mph...)
Much more to learn at this blog...
Anchorage Daily News (adn.com) is a good source:
http://community.adn.com/adn/adn_pubstor y_510772#comment-365349
August 30, 2008 - 2:54pm | maryangela11577 Now Obama Biden all the way... I appreciate some of the things Gov Palin has done for our state but the pick of Palin for VP convinces me McCain is just like Bush- irrational, impulsive, & irresponsible. He met Gov Palin once, she is inexpericenced in foreign policy, has no rapport in D.C. & not to mention she IS still under investigation! Seems lately she is trying to take the credit for bringing down Ted Stevens & gang (which would've happened anyway) If something were to happen to McCain I would be uncomfortable having her lead our country.
Now Obama Biden all the way...
I appreciate some of the things Gov Palin has done for our state but the pick of Palin for VP convinces me McCain is just like Bush- irrational, impulsive, & irresponsible. He met Gov Palin once, she is inexpericenced in foreign policy, has no rapport in D.C. & not to mention she IS still under investigation! Seems lately she is trying to take the credit for bringing down Ted Stevens & gang (which would've happened anyway) If something were to happen to McCain I would be uncomfortable having her lead our country.
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/510 766.html
In Barrow, Mike Shults has a Palin for Governor sign on the side of his house in Barrow. A self-described lifelong Republican, he said he watched Obama's speech Thursday evening and came away feeling he would vote for the Illinois senator regardless of the Palin presence on the McCain ticket. He likes Obama's health plan and fears that a vote for McCain means privatized Social Security. "I would have liked to see an Obama-Palin ticket," he said. "She's a tremendous governor. I would hate to lose her as governor."
He likes Obama's health plan and fears that a vote for McCain means privatized Social Security.
"I would have liked to see an Obama-Palin ticket," he said. "She's a tremendous governor. I would hate to lose her as governor."
Chris,
This is serious shit. Almost all docs tell their patients not to get on a plane within two weeks of their due dates...and certainly not after their WATER BROKE!
Can this be true?
http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/apr/2 2/palins-flight-labor-falls-under-scruti ny/
Gov. Sarah Palin's decision to make the eight-hour flight from Dallas to Anchorage has some people wondering about the possible safety hazards of flying while in the late stages of pregnancy. The governor, eight months into her pregnancy, noticed amniotic fluid Thursday morning prior to giving a keynote luncheon address at the Republican Governor's Energy Conference in Texas. After wrapping up the speech, Palin and her husband consulted with her physician about possibly flying home on an earlier flight. After being granted permission from her doctor, she and her husband proceeded with the trek home.
The governor, eight months into her pregnancy, noticed amniotic fluid Thursday morning prior to giving a keynote luncheon address at the Republican Governor's Energy Conference in Texas. After wrapping up the speech, Palin and her husband consulted with her physician about possibly flying home on an earlier flight. After being granted permission from her doctor, she and her husband proceeded with the trek home.
Sarah Palin - Bad News for McCain, Good News for Alaska's GOP
We're not in Kansas anymore. We're in Alaska. The rise of Gov. Sarah Palin from the City of Wasilla Planning Commission, to City Council, to Mayor, to a high level position in the Frank Murkowski gubernatorial administration, to maverick outsider, to Governor, to Vice Presidential nominee, over the course of fourteen years, is meteoric. The first 20 months of her administration saw her approval ratings in the high 80s. But this summer, in a surprise move, she fired a highly respected chief of public safety. Then, the man Palin appointed to be the new top cop, lasted only a few days, as a sexual harassment charge against him surfaced. And her stated reasons for firing Walt Monegan in the first place, never made any sense. The fallout from that move is still playing out. In July, the Alaska Legislature hired a well-respected retired prosecutor, Steve Branchflower, to handle the investigation. It was given a low budget, but its slow pace may now be hurried and harried forward. But it is still expected to take months. Palin's Attorney General, my longtime friend, Talis Colberg, was tasked by Palin to hold his own investigation. So far, that has resulted in the suspension of her boards and commissions director, Frank Bailey, for pressuring at least one state trooper, to act against another trooper, who is Palin's sister's ex-husband. The latter is involved in a child custody dispute with Palin's sister. This is real Hatfield-McCoy stuff. Having known Palin through most of her political career, I've seen her grow as a politician, and until recently viewed her as a person who could be described as a pragmatist. Over the course of 2008, though, she has made a series of moves that indicate she is as close-minded as most Alaska Republicans. Resource development issues, particularly ANWR oil, offshore drilling and a series of projected mega-mines and coal-fired power plants are major here. Palin's stance on resource development is totally pro-development. At the same time, she has rejected the earmark paradigm exemplified by the careers of Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young. Her growing anti-science stance is the most disturbing development, in my eyes. Early this year, she took a position to refuse to release correspondence to a leading Alaska academic and environmentalist, Rick Steiner, between state-employed scientists, regarding the state's support of the Bush administration's decisions on Polar bear status. And as Siun has observed in an earlier firedoglake post, her backing of an anti-science position on a voter initiative, while sitting as governor, may be more than just unethical. Her decision to fly from Texas back to Alaska after her water had broken this spring has been criticized, but nobody's put it better than Anchorage progressive talk radio personality Shannyn Moore put it today: (quote in previous comment)
The rise of Gov. Sarah Palin from the City of Wasilla Planning Commission, to City Council, to Mayor, to a high level position in the Frank Murkowski gubernatorial administration, to maverick outsider, to Governor, to Vice Presidential nominee, over the course of fourteen years, is meteoric. The first 20 months of her administration saw her approval ratings in the high 80s. But this summer, in a surprise move, she fired a highly respected chief of public safety. Then, the man Palin appointed to be the new top cop, lasted only a few days, as a sexual harassment charge against him surfaced. And her stated reasons for firing Walt Monegan in the first place, never made any sense.
The fallout from that move is still playing out. In July, the Alaska Legislature hired a well-respected retired prosecutor, Steve Branchflower, to handle the investigation. It was given a low budget, but its slow pace may now be hurried and harried forward. But it is still expected to take months.
Palin's Attorney General, my longtime friend, Talis Colberg, was tasked by Palin to hold his own investigation. So far, that has resulted in the suspension of her boards and commissions director, Frank Bailey, for pressuring at least one state trooper, to act against another trooper, who is Palin's sister's ex-husband. The latter is involved in a child custody dispute with Palin's sister. This is real Hatfield-McCoy stuff.
Having known Palin through most of her political career, I've seen her grow as a politician, and until recently viewed her as a person who could be described as a pragmatist. Over the course of 2008, though, she has made a series of moves that indicate she is as close-minded as most Alaska Republicans.
Resource development issues, particularly ANWR oil, offshore drilling and a series of projected mega-mines and coal-fired power plants are major here. Palin's stance on resource development is totally pro-development. At the same time, she has rejected the earmark paradigm exemplified by the careers of Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young.
Her growing anti-science stance is the most disturbing development, in my eyes. Early this year, she took a position to refuse to release correspondence to a leading Alaska academic and environmentalist, Rick Steiner, between state-employed scientists, regarding the state's support of the Bush administration's decisions on Polar bear status. And as Siun has observed in an earlier firedoglake post, her backing of an anti-science position on a voter initiative, while sitting as governor, may be more than just unethical.
Her decision to fly from Texas back to Alaska after her water had broken this spring has been criticized, but nobody's put it better than Anchorage progressive talk radio personality Shannyn Moore put it today: (quote in previous comment)
Palin denies global warming is manmade
A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I'm not one though who would attribute it to being man-made.
Interview with Newsmax, Aug 29
And your stand on abortion? I'm pro-life. I'll do all I can to see every baby is created with a future and potential. The legislature should do all it can to protect human life.
I'm pro-life. I'll do all I can to see every baby is created with a future and potential. The legislature should do all it can to protect human life.
McCain's VP Pick Palin Facing Ethics Investigation
For most of her tenure as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin has enjoyed widespread popularity and a reputation as a maverick who refused to stand by fellow Alaska Republicans facing their own ethics scandals. But the 44-year-old Palin, who was selected as Sen. John McCain's running mate today, is now the focus of her own state ethics investigation as part of the so-called "Troopergate" scandal, a bizarre controversy involving the firing of a state police chief and his reluctance to fire an Alaska state trooper, Palin's former brother-in-law who has been involved in a bitter custody fight with her younger sister. Just two weeks ago, Palin revealed an audio recording of an aide pressuring the state's Public Safety Department to fire trooper Mike Wooten, the Anchorage Daily News reported. Palin also acknowledged that her staff had contacted Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan about two dozen times about Wooten. Monegan himself was fired July 11 (the dismissal was "out of the blue," he told reporters) and he later said that he was pressured by Palin's staff and family to get rid of Wooten, a trooper based in Palmer, Alaska. ... In July, Palin came under a state ethics investigation and critics have said Palin's claim that she did not know of the political pressure being placed on Monegan was a "little too convenient." One fellow lawmaker, state Sen. Hollis French, a Democrat, told The Wall Street Journal that Palin could face impeachment. After French's comments, Palin ordered the investigation into Monegan's firing and told CNBC last month that lawmakers were unfairly targeting her.
But the 44-year-old Palin, who was selected as Sen. John McCain's running mate today, is now the focus of her own state ethics investigation as part of the so-called "Troopergate" scandal, a bizarre controversy involving the firing of a state police chief and his reluctance to fire an Alaska state trooper, Palin's former brother-in-law who has been involved in a bitter custody fight with her younger sister.
Just two weeks ago, Palin revealed an audio recording of an aide pressuring the state's Public Safety Department to fire trooper Mike Wooten, the Anchorage Daily News reported.
Palin also acknowledged that her staff had contacted Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan about two dozen times about Wooten. Monegan himself was fired July 11 (the dismissal was "out of the blue," he told reporters) and he later said that he was pressured by Palin's staff and family to get rid of Wooten, a trooper based in Palmer, Alaska. ... In July, Palin came under a state ethics investigation and critics have said Palin's claim that she did not know of the political pressure being placed on Monegan was a "little too convenient." One fellow lawmaker, state Sen. Hollis French, a Democrat, told The Wall Street Journal that Palin could face impeachment. After French's comments, Palin ordered the investigation into Monegan's firing and told CNBC last month that lawmakers were unfairly targeting her.
And here's here CNBC interview including talking about the (at the time, not active) investigation over the firing of Walter Moneghan as well as the infamous "someone needs to tell me what the VP does" quote:
Ah...I recognize you as a finely nuanced snarkmaster.
Mojo to a fellow traveler.
is a great shield, but not a sword.
Only for the Obama campaign itself of course, us little folks on the tubes can snark all we likes.
hold a post-graduate degree?
Answer: Whatsamatta U.
She graduated behind a moose.
It's supposed to be blank. You don't know how many times I hit refresh on my browser.
Here's my photoshop of her as Miss Congeniality:
http://dowdreport.blogspot.com/2008/08/m iss-congeniality.html
Here, I'll make it easier for you.
Take Obama and McCain out of the equation (that's the premise behind "ready to lead" in terms of the vice-presidency right). Obama or McCain are no longer able to perform their duties. Amadinajhad(?) is still working towards nuclear power, hell, worse case scenario, Russian decides to invade the rest of the former USSR states and begin an all out war in Eastern Europe. A call is made for some form of US assisstance, who do you think is better equipped to handle that call or putting it another way, for whom would you feel more comfortable answering that call? Joe Biden or Sarah Palin? No rationalizations, no explaining, just gut reaction!
reading these comments made me think for a minute I was at the free republic-- but no I am just at the new and improved mydd which has been assimiliated into the Oborg.
I do not look forward to the next few months I thought my party was better than this but then I guess it is not my party any more.
I'm just surprised we are attacking Palin's experience when it was Obama, and Bill Clinton at the convention who said experience DOES NOT MATTER. I understand people are saying we are attacking McCain/Palin's judgment, but that is not what this diary is about, it is about Palin's experience.
We all cited Lincoln as an example. Only 2 years in the House before he became President and he turned out fine. There is a reason Obama backed away from the experience card, because he knows he cannot win that hand.
We all said Kaine was an excellent choice for Obama despite less than two years as Governor. If we are going to attack someone lets not play double standards here. This diary is not about judgment, it is about experience and it is filled with hypocrisy. I know many of you don't see it that way.
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